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talk to your doctor today... >> jim: couple back out of the two-minute warning with second and 36. after this play. >> phil: trying to get a fieldgoal attempt out of this. think about 12 yards in the next few plays. >> jim: g.m.'s career long 53. got to get to the ten. you said, fieldgoal essential. palmer goes with the bail out. foschi, picking up scrambling for extra couple of yards which again is crucial to the 39. third and 29 coming up.
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actually call it third and 30. for those of you expecting to see "60 minutes" you're watchingwatching the nfl on cbs, bengals and chargers, jim nantz and phil simms a thriller here at qualcomm stadium in san diego. v "60 minutes" will be seen immediately after the game except on the west coast and you'll see it at the normal time. palmer down the field. catch is made. that will not give -- cosby growing up here in one game. as a receiver, brings it in close enough to get graham a good shot at the fieldgoal. >> phil: that is patience, knowing there's not going to be coverage. carson palmer here comes cosby. watch the throw, he sees that soft part of the zone, he comes across. throws it in there perfectly, you got to go up and catch it. you might take a huge hit knowing. that beautiful throw by carson palmer.
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about the millionth spiral he's thrown his life. >> jim: it's a tight one. >> phil: it is. nickname out of college was the just machine, it throws football out in the nfl. >> jim: time out by san diego. >> phil: good call by san diego trying to preserve some time if they tie it up at least give them a chance to get a few plays off. >> jim: they did wait awhile for that time out. quan cosby with a couple of catches, three on the day. has not had single catch on the season before today. >> phil: norv turner is arguing that point we were calling time out. they didn't get what they wanted when they they'd they tried to call time out. >> jim: some of you may have seen the jets earlier and some of their malfunctioning on fieldgoal attempts. failed to convert on three of them. all kinds of bobbles and
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missteps. had some issues for cincinnati, too. clark harris the snapper signed big october. graham to tie it from 34. executed to perfection. game tied 24-24. lot of heart by this marvin lewis coach team today coming back from 11 down on the road. battling all kinds of emotions this week. remember they were back on their own three on this drive. had first and 12 at the three. they responded to a tying fieldgoal. with a tying field goal. >> phil: overcoming a little adversity in that drive.
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tonight on cbs, again "survivor" sunday on cbs after 60 minutes. you'll see the vote that will make one person a millionaire on "survivor" in the livery union tonight on manage's most watched network. did add some time, they put on an additional seven seconds or so. you got 54 seconds now for philip rivers to operate with and one time out. nate kaeding realizing he may have chance to decide this. don
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now rivers. carson palmer coming back home, if you will, he lives in the san diego area. during the off season, you ready for this, he actually lives directly next door to norv turner. can you imagine that? i might just go next dorsey if the doors are unlocked see if the extra play book is lying around the turner household. having some fun with it. >> phil: i would say the bengals are doing it, don't let them get down the field too fast.
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>> jim: that's pretty fast, jackson. 21 yards picked up. we've got another charger down. another charger injured. they don't have a time out so they're going to lose ten seconds off the clock. >> phil: the clock will start when the official blows it. spike the ball again. it's -- >> phil: he was raising his hand right away. it wasn't like he couldn't get off the field. there was a bump at the line of scrimmage. but it's not enough. vincent jackson gets down there quick. >> jim: you see dennis norman, reamizing he's going to get in to this game with 16 seconds. philip rivers practicing -- mruczkowski you can see quite a bit of pain. >> jim: he's been filling in, capably for nick heart wig who is out with an ankle was
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inactive today. >> phil: it's amazing how they come together had guys step up on these two football teams especially talk about defensive and offensive linemen being out. multiple defensive linemen. multiple starting offensive linemen. nick hardwick on the sideline. >> jim: hoping to get him back come playoff time. hardwick is in the gray on the right. in the pregame warm up, nate kaeding. >> phil: that was 60 yards. >> jim: actually made one in a game with 57 with his longest.
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>> phil: made that look easy, too. remember, once play resumes, ball's going to be at the cincinnati 49. san diego again without any timeouts. >> phil: 60 seconds. they call the -- the clock will start, philip rivers will down it. >> jim: his leg got pinned. >> phil: i couldn't quite see. lot of injuries for the chargers today.
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i tell you, jim, spike the football, 15 or 14 seconds left. then the chargers almost will have to get out of bounds -- they can kill the clock, maybe. time to get up there. then how long the gain is gives kaeding a chance to kick a fieldgoal. time out cincinnati. there's a flag on the field, too. >> referee: cincinnati. >> jim: maybe another one we're going to ignore. >> phil: in case somebody tuned in late. we have had a -- >> referee: put 1-6 on the game clock, please.
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>> jim: another two seconds. >> referee: thank you. >> jim: palmer going for season's best 300 plus today. his career best against san diego in 2006. 440 was looking forward to this time to come down here and play with some 65 members of his fan club, family and friends in the stands. >> phil: the team that struggled to get near 200 yards throwing the football in the last six weeks. >> jim: been right around 100 of the last six weeks. >> phil: so many times, just like last weeks. good pass rushing team in minnesota, a young offensive line, crowd noise, getting behind. no chance to take carson palmer. the day they give him time, you can see giving time he makes tremendous throws. >> jim: can they get a completion? and get clock stopped in time to
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get kaeding on the field. down to 12. goody sign. by the chargers that time. hard not to be a little nervous. he threw it before and naanee was ready for the football. >> jim: 12 seconds with no timeouts. rivers unloads. got his man. he's out of bounds. floyd with eight seconds. my goodness, just what they needed. to give kaeding a chance phil i was going to say before the snap fur going to blitz, if you are the corners you cannot let them catch anything going to the sideline.
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they got the big play to malcolm floyd able to get out of bounds then kaeding absolutely looking fearless with that one. not an ounce of tension in the leg that time. >> phil: good way to explain it. no tension in that kick. what a job by the chargers. call the time out before the bengals kick their fieldgoal to give themselves a chance. a couple good plays. bengals gamble with the blitz. the chargers ready for it. >> jim: trying to extend that remarkable december win streak to 17. and in-season streak to nine in a row.
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i tell you, it's been a fun game to watch. who knows, maybe they will meet again. mruczkowski is being carted inside. the opposite end, reacting. now just three seconds remaining. cosby will try to keep it in play. kaeding over on that side of the field there's a flag down, ball is out. fanene lobs it over, finally the officials say, enough with the nonsense.
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game is over. kaeding wins it from 52 yards. the chargers have a huge track right now, it's not clinched but a huge way on their way to the number two seed. 27-24 final. coming up next, "60 minutes" followed by "survivor." captioning by captionmax www.captionmax.com ♪ ♪ i always feel like (announcer) it's right here, it's easy... ♪ somebody's watching me. ...it's the money you could be saving with geico. ♪ who's watching? ♪ tell me who's watching. (muffled music)
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>> pelley: this week marks the third christmas of the great recession. the decline that began in december 2007 has destroyed more than seven million jobs. but that's just the half of it. millions more have had their hours cut to part-time or have just quit looking for work. altogether, that comes to 17% of the workforce. there are pockets of severe unemployment all across the country in places like wilmington, ohio. we first told you about wilmington this time last year, when its major employer was closing. it's exactly the kind of town that washington hoped to rescue with stimulus spending, cash for clunkers, and mortgage relief. but when we returned last week, we got an idea of what it's going to take to bring the country back from the long recession. >> bidding on 8,100. >> pelley: in wilmington, two days ago...
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>> bidding on 114,000. >> pelley: ... 59 homes went to the auction block. the struggle to make the mortgage or work things out at the bank ended in foreclosure. >> sold: 141,000. >> pelley: cold in here now. >> jim curtis: it's cold. it's cold. the electric's shut off. the gas is shut off. >> pelley: jim curtis's home was auctioned on friday. it went into foreclosure after his payments doubled, and then he lost his job. curtis moved his wife and boys out well before the auction to get it over with. when you received that foreclosure notice, what did you think? >> curtis: i let me my family down. i've always kind of taught... sorry, i've always been kind of taught to stand on my own two feet and that i'm responsible for taking care of them.
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and it's tough on us. >> pelley: curtis built a career, 24 years, at airborne express, later bought by d.h.l. the courier's national hub was wilmington's old air base, what they now call the air park. curtis managed more than a hundred people in the hazardous materials department. but when d.h.l. express closed its domestic delivery service, 10,000 people lost their jobs. when we visited last december, d.h.l. was counseling workers on unemployment and retraining. and like many, lora walker was scared. >> lora walker: to me, it was like being on the "titanic"-- it's not only filling with water, we're going down. >> pelley: she grabbed every lifeline. in the year since we met her, she improvised jobs and went to classes in medical records management, a new field where she might find work. there were new text books to buy... >> walker: there goes all my
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money. >> pelley: ... an oven to fix for a side business baking cakes... >> walker: okay, that ain't going to work. >> pelley: ... and a job at a farm supply for which she's paid in bales of hay. you're getting paid with hay? >> walker: i'm getting paid with hay. >> pelley: the hay is for horses she still has from the days when her late husband raised them on the farm she's struggling to keep. she had to put two down recently. they were old and sick, and she couldn't afford to care for them anymore. >> walker: you look out into the field and think, "who can i euthanize?" and you start with the older ones and you go from there. >> pelley: with bartering, baking, and unemployment, she and daughter allison live on one quarter of her former paycheck. >> walker: this is another notice that they're going to turn my electric off. i can't go without car insurance. i can't go without my life insurance. i don't have health insurance because i can't afford it. >> pelley: wait a minute, you have life insurance but not health insurance? >> walker: right. >> pelley: why is that? >> walker: i'm more concerned
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about allison having a roof over her head than i am about me. >> pelley: you're more concerned about your daughter's future than your own health? >> walker: sure, because i'm not going to leave her. you know, after my husband died, it... it hit you like a ton of bricks. you know, i'm a single parent. and she was 13. and if anything happens to me, what's going to happen to her? >> pelley: people started asking that kind of question last christmas. ♪ they bought presents on severance pay then, but this holiday is different. the pawnshop has filled up with anything and everything a family can sell. with christmas '09, wilmington and many places in the country are facing something new in unemployment. it's one of the unique things about the great recession. never before have so many people been out of work for the long term-- at least, not since they starting keeping records back in 1948.
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today, 40% of all of those who've lost their jobs have been out of work for six months or more. there's a ripple effect that reaches all over town. tax receipts are down, so the schools cut a million dollars from their budget. the hospital lost $7 million when many of those air park workers who'd once had insurance became charity cases. >> dr. seema nadkarni: hey, sweetheart, how are you today? >> pelley: dr. seema nadkarni ran the pediatric clinic, which the hospital could no longer afford to keep open. she welcomed poor families on medicaid that other practices wouldn't take. the clinic had 2,000 patients, many of them chronically ill, like this five-year-old named desire who has spina bifida. >> nadkarni: that's what breaks my heart. these children, you know, they're great kids. and it's really difficult. it's hard for the parent who was fighting, you know, foreclosure and fighting, trying to find employment.
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and now, they have to look for a doctor for their child. >> pelley: the clinic was shut down last week. two thirds of the patients haven't found a new doctor. >> nadkarni: think that was the hardest... you know, hardest part of closing the office was, what about all my kids? you know, and that it... i just have trouble finding words to describe. >> pelley: and you don't have an answer to that question? >> nadkarni: i don't, unfortunately. i don't. >> you guys want to go ahead and open up your internet. >> pelley: wilmington is being helped by federal emergency aid. $8 million went to retraining workers. and washington spent more than one and a half billion dollars bailing out ohio's bankrupt unemployment fund. but other programs you've been hearing about have helped less than you might think. david raizk is the mayor of wilmington. he applied for some of the stimulus money and got a paving project for main street. how much does that come to? >> david raizk: about $5.1 million. >> pelley: and what would you be
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able to do with that? >> raizk: well, we'll be able... first of all, it will create jobs, locally. construction jobs. >> pelley: how many? >> raizk: i would say somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 to 200 jobs. it could create that many. >> pelley: 200 out of 10,000 lost. raizk doesn't know how many of his citizens have moved away. but he has a clue there is some kind of exodus-- the revenue from the water utility is down by a third. >> raizk: everybody's cut back, whether it's been in the government, whether it's been individual families. you know, they're pulling those belts pretty tight and putting extra holes in them. >> pelley: mr. mayor, you're paid to be an optimist, and i think you're an optimist by nature, but we're talking about 10,000 jobs-- those are not coming back soon. >> raizk: it's going to be very difficult to get them back soon. you know, how do you look at the glass? unfortunately, ours is not half full or half empty, it's almost empty, and we've got to start adding some water to it. >> pelley: the town runs on hope at this point? >> raizk: the town runs on hope. >> pelley: a lot of hope came wilmington's way in the year
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after our first story. in february, a dozen trucks from the charity feed the children rolled down main street. folks lined up for blocks, thousands of them, for free food. in may, jay leno staged a benefit show here. >> rachael ray: oh, my god! >> pelley: in october, rachael ray sponsored an extreme makeover of the sugar tree ministry soup kitchen. and the people pulled together. in the fall, they harvested community potatoes, part of a drive to grow food all over town. >> bin 15-- three bags, family 221. >> pelley: and now in december, again, the line, this time, is for christmas gifts donated by folks who have a little something to spare for neighbors who don't. >> anita bach: what can i get you today? we got pies back there as well, if you like that. >> pelley: folks who are out of work are volunteering. anita bach used to work two shifts at the airpark, sleeping in the company cafeteria in between. now, she helps out in the soup
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kitchen. but what wilmington has learned in this year of unemployment is that charity, retraining, and government can't replace the enormous number of lost jobs. while anita bach volunteers, she and her family also get most of their meals in the soup kitchen. how are the children coping with the economy? >> bach: one day at a time. my son, he had come to me and asked me if i had a couple extra dollars to give to the homeless shelter, or if we had any extra toys at home that they can give to them for christmas. >> pelley: your kids are looking for extra toys at home that they can send to the homeless shelter? >> bach: yes, so they have christmas as well. >> pelley: people like to say their jobs drive them crazy, but in truth, work keeps them sane. this christmas, many in wilmington sorely miss the
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dignity and purpose they once had. lora walker says she learned that years ago when her late husband, roger, lost his job as a machinist and refused to be anything else. >> walker: i watched what he went through by not making the concessions, by not making the changes. he didn't go back to school, he wasn't willing to think outside of the box. >> pelley: he couldn't find full-time work for six years. then, he was hired again, and given business cards and a lapel pin by his new company. before his first day on the new job, he had a heart attack. >> walker: and i went to the hospital, and i went in and i was so surprised. and you know, the first thing he said to me was, "what about my job?" the first thing he said to me-- "what about my job?" that's a hard thing to... and then, he died sunday morning. and i was there holding his hand when he died. and at the funeral, at the
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visitation, i took that card, that business card, that lapel pin, and i put it on his chest, so everyone could see. and before they closed the casket, i slipped it in his hand, because he was so proud that he finally had a job. i don't want that to happen to anybody else. >> pelley: in wilmington, they say it's a bad day when you get a thick newspaper. jim curtis's house was listed among six pages of homes up for auction. ten years ago, his company used him in a video when he was head of hazardous materials. at one time, he was vice president of the company charity. now, he's sending out resumes. >> curtis: 123 to be exact. i was counting up the other day- - 123 resumes have been sent out. >> pelley: and what are you doing to make ends meet? >> curtis: i have my unemployment while it lasts. i do odd jobs, anything. i've cleaned houses, scrubbed toilets, waxed floors.
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>> ♪ o come, all ye faithful... >> pelley: in wilmington, the third christmas of the great recession is about improvising, pulling together, and discovering generosity among those with little to give. >> raizk: it's about people helping people. it's about neighbors helping neighbors. what is the spirit of christmas? spirit of christmas is wilmington, ohio. if you don't have any christmas spirit, just spend a day in wilmington-- you'll get it. >> cbs money watch update sponsored by:. >> good evening. surveys this sunday show the snowstorm in the east cut retail shopping on what's called supersaturday by up to 80% in the storm zone. citadel the country's third
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>> simon: would it surprise you to learn that one of the world's most important christian leaders, second only to the pope, lives in a country where 99% of the population is muslim? his name is bartholomew, and he is the patriarch of 300 million orthodox christians. he lives in istanbul, turkey-- the latest in a line of patriarchs who have resided there since before there was a turkey, since the centuries following the death of jesus christ. that's when istanbul was called constantinople and was the most important city in the christian world. but times change, and in modern muslim turkey, the patriarch does not feel very welcome. turkish authorities have seized
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christian properties, and closed christian churches, monasteries and schools. his parishioners are afraid that the authorities want to force bartholomew and his church-- the oldest of all christian churches-- out of turkey. ( chanting ) his official title is impressive-- his all holiness bartholomew, archbishop of constantinople, new rome, ecumenical patriarch. "ecumenical" means "universal" and, worldwide, 300 million orthodox christians look to him for spiritual guidance. we first met him in istanbul. it was easter, and worshipers from throughout the orthodox christian world had come to celebrate christ's resurrection on the holiest day of their calendar with the man who they
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see as their pope. my first question is this-- how should i refer to you? as "your all holiness"? as "patriarch"? as "ecumenical patriarch"? what is the proper way to address you? >> his all holiness bartholomew: bartholomew. ( laughter ) the official title is "your all holiness". >> simon: your all holiness. >> bartholomew: but for me, bartholomew is enough. >> simon: for him, perhaps, but not for us. and while his all holiness may occupy the ecumenical throne, his quarters are a far cry from the vatican. his office is cramped and relatively austere, his desk littered with papers. no michelangelos here. all that's left of a christian empire once ruled from istanbul is a complex of nine buildings tightly squeezed onto less than an acre of land. now, is this the vatican of your church?
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>> bartholomew: well, our headquarters. >> simon: it's called the phanar, and it has been the heart of orthodox christianity since 1599. his all holiness promotes an informal atmosphere here. there's none of the ritual that surrounds the pope in rome. and there is no cathedral, only a modest church. the neighborhood that surrounds it used to be greek and christian, but today is predominantly muslim. the phanar is so small, our tour didn't take long. it had just ended when a turkish policeman informed the patriarch that there was a threat on his life. it turned out to be nothing, but church officials say previous threats have been serious enough that the phanar is surrounded by barbed wire and cameras, and the patriarch has 24-hour protection. i think a lot of people would want to know, your all holiness,
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why the leader of so many millions of orthodox christians in the world lives in a country that is 99% muslim? >> bartholomew: because we are here before this country becomes a muslim country, much earlier. since ever. since the very beginning. >> simon: since the very beginning of what? >> bartholomew: of the foundation of our church. of the church of constantinople. >> simon: and in the beginning, istanbul was called constantinople-- the ancient city on the bosphorus where east meets west. the city's skyline is dominated by minarets. at friday prayers, the mosques are teeming. ( bell rings ) but the city's richest and most renowned christian churches are
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museums today, mecca's for tourists, not for worshipers. from the chora church, with its fresco of jesus whose eyes seem to go right through you, to the hagia sophia, the first great church in christendom and an architectural wonder built a thousand years before st. peters in rome, and for centuries, the most important church in the christian world. ( chanting ) fast forward a few centuries and it's hard to find christians in istanbul. this church holds 500 people, but during its sunday service its pews were practically empty. it was the same everywhere we went. at the turn of the last century there were nearly two million orthodox christians in turkey. one and a half million were expelled in 1923 and another 150,000 left after violent anti- christian riots in istanbul in
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1955. today, in all of turkey, there are only 4,000 orthodox christians left. >> bartholomew: we are treated as citizens of second class. >> simon: you're treated as second-class citizens? >> bartholomew: and we don't feel that we enjoy our full rights as turkish citizens. >> simon: if you're treated as second-class citizens here and you are greek, why don't you go to greece? >> bartholomew: because we love our country. we are born here. we want to die here. we feel that our mission is here as it has been for 17 entire centuries. >> simon: 17 centuries? >> bartholomew: 17 centuries. and i wonder why the authorities of our country do not respect this history. >> simon: to better understand
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the patriarch's frustration, he suggested we head off on our own mission, 500 miles east of istanbul to a region called cappadocia. we launched our search for this christian history in a hot air balloon and came upon one of the most bizarre and dramatic landscapes on earth. from above the clouds, it looks like a city of stone. and when you approach the cliffs you see doors and windows carved by hand into the rocks eons ago. it's extraordinary enough from the outside, but open one of the doors and step inside, and you enter a world of unfathomable beauty. chapels with frescos painted while rome was still ruled by the caesars and bethlehem and nazareth were dusty little towns. are there any christian remains as old as this in the holy land,
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in jerusalem or bethlehem? >> sevim karabiyik: not that i know of. >> simon: our guide, sevim karabiyik, told us-- much to our surprise- that the four gospels were written in turkey and that three of the apostles spread the word here. there are hundreds of these churches in cappadocia where christians sought refuge from persecution. the oldest, built in the 5th century when christianity was in its infancy. do you think many christians realize that it all started here in turkey? >> karabiyik: personal experience? no. >> simon: it all started in the holy land, because that's... >> karabiyik: but... >> simon: ...where jesus is from. because nobody... >> karabiyik: that that's where it's taken... >> simon: ...disputes that. but the christian religion began in turkey. >> karabiyik: in anatolia, in turkey. >> simon: the patriarch then sent us to the depths of the sinai desert, to a greek orthodox monastery where early christians also sought protection.
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it's called st. catherine's, and it's located at the foot of mount sinai where, according to tradition, moses received the ten commandments. it is the oldest functioning monastery anywhere. there are 25 monks here today, servicing the smallest diocese in the world. the monks are all greek, with one exception. >> father justin: all together, we have 3,300 manuscripts. >> simon: the chief librarian, overseeing an incomparable collection of ancient manuscripts, is father justin. >> justin: most of these date from the 10th to the 14th century. >> simon: a converted baptist from el paso, texas. he showed us the monastery's collection of byzantine icons, the largest and oldest collection of icons in the world. then he took us to what the patriarch really wanted us to
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see-- a little-known letter written by the prophet mohammed, almost 1,400 years ago, signed and sealed with his hand print, offering protection and religious freedom to the christians of the monastery. >> justin: these are precedents from mohammed himself for toleration and peace among people of differing faiths. >> simon: the patriarch then brought us back to the 21st century and turkey, to his own back yard. he took us for a ride on an island off of istanbul in a carriage with a police escort. the patriarch wanted to show us that mohammed's message of tolerance has not been received by the turkish authorities. his prime example-- the halki school of theology, the only greek orthodox seminary in turkey, empty and abandoned. no priests, no prayers. thank you, your all holiness. it's very kind of you.
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the halki was closed down by turkish authorities after passage of a law banning private higher education. that was back in 1971. >> bartholomew: it's a pity and a shame. it's a crime to keep such a school closed, unused, for no reason. why? >> simon: reasons of state. >> bartholomew: reasons of state. >> simon: as a consequence, the church can't train new priests, potential new patriarchs who, under turkish law, have to be born in turkey. it's as if rome closed down the college of cardinals. the hallways where 100 young seminarians roamed are desolate now. the library's priceless collection of old manuscripts lies untouched. walk into a classroom and it seems as if the students had just gone home today, not 38 years ago. >> bartholomew: this school prepared people who preached peace, preached unity, preached love.
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so not giving to the church the possibility to prepare these people, we offend human dignity. >> simon: the patriarch says it not only offends human dignity, it offends him personally, because this is his alma mater. halki is where he studied to be a priest. so you studied in a classroom just like this? >> bartholomew: yes, for seven years. >> simon: the patriarch was born dimitrious arhondonis in turkey. like all turkish citizens, he served in the turkish army. he was ordained at the age of 21 and elected ecumenical patriarch in 1991. but the turkish government does not recognize the ecumenical or international part of his title. to them, he is merely a local bishop. >> bartholomew: i have visited the prime minister, submitting
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our problems, concrete problems, and asking why, and asking to help us. >> simon: do you get answers? >> bartholomew: never. >> simon: do you sometimes fear that the community will be wiped out? >> bartholomew: not really. we survived. we do believe in miracles. >> simon: and that, the patriarch says, is because turkey is also the holy land, spiritually not very far from jerusalem. >> bartholomew: this is the continuation of jerusalem. and for us, it is equally a holy and sacred land. we prefer to stay here, even crucified sometimes. because in the gospel, it is written that it is given to us not only to believe in christ, but also to suffer for christ. >> simon: he said even to be
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crucified sometimes? >> bartholomew: yes. because we believe in the resurrection. after the crucifixion, resurrection comes. >> simon: do you feel personally, your holiness, that you are being crucified sometimes? >> bartholomew: yes, i do. ( inspirational music playing ) now you can get the latest name-brand cell phones where you already save. well, actually, just a few rows over in walmart's expanded electronics department. get unbeatable prices on new fully-activated verizon wireless, t-mobile or at&t phones. they're a lot closer than you think. save money. live better. walmart. we decide to turn in early.
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