good morning. congress could subpoena attorney general eric holder over the government's controversial program allowing guns into the hands of mexican drug cartels. at stake, what holder knew and when he knew it. we'll go to washington and get the very latest from cheryl atkinson who first broke this story. president obama's $447 billion jobs plan put to test on capitol hill today this as the senate brings it to a vote. this as presidential candidates prepare to square off at their only own debate tonight in new hampshire. and a possible increased

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and furious. that's the news today. cbs news correspondent cheryl atkinson has been in front of this story since the beginning. she has the latest. why this subpoena now? >> a congressional directive could be out to eric holer today. the subpoena will come from the house oversight committee led by republican darrel eiss. it will ask information from officials and list those officials by name. why now? the subpoena request is prompted by a couple of things. first, the justice department isn't voluntarily turning over information quickly enough. we're about nine months into the congressional investigations. what they do give is heavily redacted. the second is documents we reported on last week that indicated officials at the justice department knew about fast and furious and that memos were sent to the attorney general up to ten months before

he told congress he heard about the case. >> has the attorney general had anything to say about this? >> yes, he has. it said that he never read those memos about fast and furious, those are read by others who decide whether or not to toll him and he says those didn't. even though under him at the justice department, including his current chief of staff, they didn't know about the controversial tactic of heading hands walk in the hands of mexican drug cartels. >> any signs any democrats are going to jump on? >> we did hear from senator leahy. but his committee plans to hold an oversight hearing with holder before the end of the year, just general oversight. questions about fast and furious are certainly to be asked. turning our attention now to the economy, chris, president obama's $447 billion jobs plan

gets a test on capitol hill today. democrats plan to bring the bill to the senate floor for a vote, even though it is already in jeopardy. cbs news congressional correspondent nancy course joins us with the latest from capitol hill. democrats need 60 votes, right, to overcome a republican filibuster. can it happen? >> probably not, erica, because democrats would need all 53 of their members to vote yes along with seven republicans and already democrats have said they will vote no. senator joe mancion of west virginia is one of them. he questions the effectiveness of this package wondering whether we'll get the bang from the buck. senator lieberman, senator nelson, they both don't like the way democratic leaders have proposed to pay for this bill with a new 5.6% surtax on any personal income over $1 million. they say that this is not the time to be raising taxes on

anyone, including millionaires, and that's the way, frankly, most republicans feel, as well. so even if this bill were to surmount these hurdles in the senate, republicans in the house are waiting to kill it. >> so if it's going to ultimately die, then, what is the next step for democrats and frankly for the white house? >> well, they have a couple of options. the first option, obviously, would be to figure out a different way to pay for this bill. republicans simply are not going to support increased taxes. that is the most controversial element of this bill. the actual measures that this bill would take have widespread support. things like a barrel tax cut, increased infrastructure spending, extending unemployment benefits. so if democrats can come up with another way to pay for it, they might be able to pass. another option is to break the bill down into pieces, try to pass the most popular measures by themselves. president obama has said that this bill needs to be passed as

a whole in order to be the most effective, but that may not end up being an option. >> nancy, thanks. joining us now from the white house is a senior adviser to president obama opinion good to have you with us this morning. >> morning, erica. >> david, give us an idea as we learn more about this bill and its support or lack thereof in some areas, where will the president be willing to compromise? >> first of all, the american jobs act is what the economy needs right now, putting teachers back to work, construction workers back to work, tax cuts for small businesses and the middle class, that's what we need to do. what the president said last week is if we can't get enough people to vote for it tonight, we're going to keep at it. we're going to vote on teachers back in the classrooms, rebuilding our schools, our bridges. so the question for washington really isn't an economy that's far too weak, too many people out of work, what is the government willing to do? we are going to put as much pressure as we can today on

senators in both parties to vote for this. obviously, this is just a first chapter in what's going to be an effort over the next couple of months to get as much done for the economy right now. >> so this is the chapter first half. this has been talked, as nancy laid out for us, about breaking the bill down. can you give me a specific of one yeah, perhaps, where the president has said, yes, i'm willing to have a little bit of wiggle room with that particular area? >> well, listen, i think all of these are mainstream proposals that in a normal political environment would be supported. letting tax cuts go up for everyone in the country next year i don't think is something ultimately washington is going to allow to happen. we need to get that done. tax cuts for small businesses. teachers back on the job. helping our veterans with the tax credit so when they come back from afghanistan and iraq they're able to work. i think a lot of these are mainstream proposals, they ought to enjoy support. at the end of the day, i think people here in washington don't want to go home and say, i didn't do anything to help the economy and in the short-term

didn't do anything to help the working class. we're eager to work with congress to make sure we can put as many people back to work right away. >> there's a lot of attention being paid these days to the occupy wall street movement. the president saying last week, and i'm quoting here, that he feels this expresses the frustration of the american people. some of that frustration, though, lies squarely with his president himself, his approval numbers on the decline. is this something the president wants to put himself behind as a movement? >> what the president said last week is the frustration you're seeing in the protests is frustration that's shared in living rooms all across america. i would give you one example of a defining debate we're going to have, which is one of the reasons we went into the worst recession we had since st great depression. wall street was able to write too many of its own rules. taxpayers won't be on the hook for a bailout any more, will be more transparent.

consumers will be protected on hidden fees on mortgages and credit cards. and most republicans here in congress want to repeal that law. so an economic strategy that says let's let wall street write its own rules, let's not protect consumers in the middle class. i think the president stands squarely with the middle class in terms of trying to protect consumers and make sure what happened doesn't happen again. >> congressman paul rhyno says by fanning the flames of the rich, this is fanning the flames of class warfare. >> absolutely not. hard work and responsibility are rewarded and everybody pays their fair share. we want to invest in things like education. if we want to get tax cuts to the middle class, if we want to compete in the long-term, we have to find a way to pay for it. it's not fair that millionaires

and billionaires pay less in taxes than the middle class does and that's something to needs to change. so what this is doing the right thing for our economy and making sure that we make decisions that are fair and so everybody plays by the same set of rules. >> david plouffe, thanks for being with us. >> thanks, erica. jeff glor has a check of the other headlines this morning. >> good morning. nba commissioner david stern has canceled the first two weeks of the season after what he calls a significant gulf on virtually all issues between nba owners and players. the two sides met for 13 hours over two days. now it appears a full season is highly unlikely. it is possible the whole season might be canceled. we part on good terms with the negotiators. we just have a gulf that separates us. >> they figure once a player misses a check or two, it's all over. and i'm saying to you, that would be a horrible mistake.

>> no new talks are scheduled. the last time the nba canceled games was back in 1998. hurricane jova is expected to hit mexico's coast later today. it's a category 3 storms, sustained winds of 115 miles per hour. jova is expected to make landfall, a large storm surge and coastal flooding is expected there. opening statements begin this morning in the trial of the so-called underwear bomber, umar farouk abdomen dew duabdulmutalb is accused of trying to blow up a plane with a bomb. >> because the defendant is defending himself and because he has shown the pretile hearings to turn some into a celebration of al qaeda, we're expecting a rather unconventional trial.

christmas day flight 249 is cordened off by security after a young passenger from nigeria allegedly set his pants on fire as the plane neared the runway at detroit's metro airport. concealed in his underwear, explosives that americansfully did not ignite before other passengers overwhelmed him. 24-year-old umar farouk abdomen due abdulmutallab's stands accused of terrorism. we will certainly hear about the way abdulmutallab tried to evade security, the way he tried to hide the bomb in his underwear and he training he received around this. >> he may try to convince the jury that he never tried to kill anybody. >> everybody assumes that he had a bomb. the statute requires that the prosecution prove beyond a reasonable doubt that that is an

explosive device. that is something that will be an issue as will others during the course of these proceedings. >> officials are more concerns that the defendant will try to in some way create a circus atmosphere. >> reporter: there's good reason for that concern because in pretrial hearings, abdulmutallab has loudly proclaimed that bin laden still lives, he's requested unsuccessfully to carry a dagger on to his belt during the court and that he be tried according to islamic law. jeff. >> should be interesting. dean reynolds, thanks so much. in you some moms say going into labor is like running a marathon. for one more in chicago, running a marathon led to labor. she ran 22.6 miles and then gave birth to a baby girl. this is amber miller and her baby, june.

sunday, amber decided to run the chicago marathon 39 weeks pregnant. she went across the finish line and gave birth to a bouncing crying baby seven hours later. >> yeah, but man, when she was born, she was screaming. but she's very content now, yeah, it's nice. i'm sure yesterday was pretty stressful for her, too. >> by the way, amber finished the race faster than her husband, joe, by 19 minutes. he says he had a good reason. >> and what were you thinking the whole time you guys were going? >> personally, i was in a lot of pain, thinking about me a lot. >> amber has now completed eight marathons, three of them while

now a look at some alarming new reserve on vitamin and mineral supplements. more than half of all adults take some kind of datary supplements. >> but this new study found some supplements may increase a woman's chance of dying. let's talk specifically first, which supplements are we talking about here? >> let's break down the study, erica, and you're right. the headline like many can be deceiving. this study was based on associated findings that did not show a buy logic cause and effect. very large study done from 1986 to 2004 in finland, very large

study. they looked at almost 40,000 women, average age 62. that's important. they found in this group 85% of them too took one dietary supplement a day, very similar to what we do here in this country. found an associated increased risk of desk amongst these women for those in particular taking vitamin b6, iron, magnesium, zinc and copper. didn't say why, but showed they had an increased risk of dying. >> what is it about these supplements that caused an increased risk? >> we don't know. one person i spoke to said he's skeptical about supplements because they do work. we don't have enough to show us what the effect of these vitamins can do, especially when taken in high doses, excessive quantities. in particular, this study showed iron has an increased risk of death. we know for certain people with

certain types of blood disorders, excessive iron can be dangerous to the heart and liver. >> for women, too, iron is something that you tend to take, a lot of people when they're pregnant, mildly anemic and it can continue on. so when do you -- i know you should always check with your doctor, too, before taking a supplement. but if you've been taking it for a long time, do you still check it? >> that's part of the thing. most women, most patients don't consider these supplement toes be medication. they should. number one, if you're taking anything, especially if you've been taking it for so long, you want to discuss these with your doctor. you want to try to avoid self-diagnosis and falling into that trap of the marketing and advertising claims that a lot of these supplements portend. and also, do not assume that more is better. really, do not take more than the recommended dosage because we know that these vitamins, like anything, can be dangerous. still ahead this morning, we'll preview tonight's

presidential debate. it's all about the economy. we're going to tell you who goes in with an advantage and who goes no with a good showing. also, t what has now formed in the area where all of the protests started in downtown new york city is a mini village complete with daily newspaper, recycling, a free breakfast buffet. >> yoga. >> yoga. we're going to show you what it's like there inside the protest, just ahead. we all want our candy in october.

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and welcome back to the "the early show" here on a tuesday morning. these are pictures from zucanni park in lower manhattan. this has been the home base for the occupy wall streeters here in the new york city area. as you can see, it is a mini tent city. it's been there about a month and no sign that anyone is leaving anytime soon at this point. the mayor has said, as long as you don't break the law, you're welcome to stay. let's see what happened. as you can see, they have set up their own community, complete with food, a medical tent, even a library to help people on a day-to-day basis. we spent time with some of those folks down there, looking at who they are, what they want, and how they've been coming together over the past few weeks.

welcome back once again. >> it's a fascinating look at what is happening. also this morning, we'll take you from lower manhattan a little further south to cuba. more americans are now visiting the island. that's because travel restrictions have been eased. there are certain qualifications for you to go. we're going to tell you what they are. but most importantly, what you can expect and what you can see enough that opportunity. come along with us on a surgeonny. but first, jobs and the economy will be the center of tonight's presidential debate in new hampshire. gop voters are shown to trust mitt romney most when it comes to the economy with herman cain second. jan has a preview of tonight's debate. >> good morning, chris. this is the seventh gop debate, but it's the first one devoted entirely to the economy. as we've talked about here, that is the n number one issue for

voters. with the unmroit rate hovering at 9% and the white house struggling to get enough support in congress for its jobs bill, republican presidential candidates see an opening. >> my 9-9-9 plan. >> reporter: surging in the latest polls, businessman and front-runner herman cain has made headlines with his intention to replace the tax code with a 9% flat tax. >> and it will save all of us collectively $430 billion a year that we spend to fill out the stooupt stupid tax code. >> reporter: as mitt romney heads to the first in the nation primary stai state with a double digit polls, he has his own plan that includes cutting the corporate tax rate, cracking down on chinese trade practices and revealing the health care reform law. he's using that to attack texas candidate rick perry for having no plan at all. >> i think it may be time to hear from him on an important

issue like that. >> reporter: but don't expect one tonight. perry will lay out his plan with his first policy speech this friday. for now, perry is running on his record as texas governor to establish himself as the most credible candidate in the economy. >> in my own state, we have created about 40% of all of american jobs since june of 2009. >> reporter: but in spite of the competing plans, some analysts argue republican voters still have other priorities on their minds. >> at the top of their wish list is somebody who is going to out conservative ronald reagan. >> and, jan, by most accounts, rick perry's last performance was sooeg seen as an epic tower. how big a night does rick perry have to have to get back into this thing? >> well, that's the question i think that you're just asking. perry has to do well. in those three debates, his performance has gotten

progressively worse to the point that the last debate was called an unmitigated failure by republicans. his team has to do better tonight and they think perry is strong on the economy. if he doesn't perform well tonight, if he has another night where he stumbles, he could start losing donors, losing support. >> herman cain, does he have to be on the defensive tonight? >> i wouldn't expect attacks from romney or perry directed at cain tonight. you might see someone, like rick santorum going after cain who because he is trying to get some of his votes. >> cbs's jan crawford in washington, jan, thank you. >> thank you. 34 minutes

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the occupy wall street protests that started here in new york last month have now pred to 60 other cities. in boston, police arrested dozens of demonstrates on trespassing charges. >> protesters say they are in this for the long hall. good morning, bigad. >> guys, good morning. the protesters acknowledge they're still without a long-term vision or plan saying they are their focus right now is recruitment.

some are criticizing the moment as unorganized. when it comes to the base here, it seems to have a structure all its own. >> they're going to do more full, deep breaths. >> reporter: this isn't your average protest. yoga classes are taught in the off time. a makeshift library has been set up with at least 1500 books. >> a medic station is on the other side. >> reporter: it even has its own medical tent and newspaper. the occupy wa"occupy wall stree journal." there's a complementally breast buffet of fruit and bagels. 29-year-old amy hamburger manages the meal. she's a teachers aid who has been here from the start, 25 days and count, food donations from around the world. >> people from mexico, gifts from scotland, alaska, all kinds of stuff. ♪ i'm going to let it shine

the 1960s feel of music and dance brought her in. it's the frustration over the economy she says that's kept her here. >> it's time to get together and re-evaluate. not necessarily do away with the system, but just figure out where we went wrong and how we're going to do it right now. >> reporter: in the process, many protesters have been split into groups to help run this site. everything from the live web feed to recycling and trash pick up. james jordan is 26 and nearly one year into his search for a full-time job. he works overnight shifts at a hotel and now spends his days here. >> it's not easy. it's not easy. i've got a college degree. i'm thousands of dollars in debt. >> reporter: he and others hungry for change. amy hamburger says she's be there to make sure they get the food they need to see it through. >> right now, this is my life.

and it's going to be my life until it's not any more. >> reporter: still, organizers admit their movement is without long-term direction, making the day-to-day operation of its headquarters perhaps more organized than the protest itself. meanwhile, the marchs continue, including one set here for this afternoon dubbed the millionaire's march. chris and erica, they plan to visit some of the city's wealthiest presidents. >> it will be interesting to see where that takes them. bigad shaban, interesting piece. thanks. just ahead, havana is hot. we are taking you to cuba this morning now that americans are legally allowed to travel there. this is "the early show" on cbs. but you go in pieces. [ female announcer ] you can't pass mom's inspection with lots of pieces left behind. that's why there's charmin ultra strong. its diamondweave texture is soft and more durable versus the ultra rippled brand. so it holds up better for a more dependable clean.

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the first legal u.s. trips to havana in a decade. >> reporter: stepping into cuba feels very much like stepping back in time. 1950s cars and crumbling matches, legendary music and distinct charm. it's a place that has captivated and mystified the attention of its u.s. neighbors for years. >> we were on the verge of coming here, shall we say, less than legally. >> reporter: like many americans, karen and gap kovak toyed with the idea of making the trip through a third country, but decided against it. >> i didn't want to lose my passport, you know? so i said, no, we'll wait until it clears. >> reporter: but on this trip, they landed in cuba completely legally. >> we have around a 20-minute ride into whhavana. >> reporter: for the first time in years, adventurous travelers

wanting to see cuba are able to satisfy their appetite. don't be misled, in order to see the sites, you have to play by the rules. >> you have to have a program which is educational about what's happening in cuba and where there is direct contact with cuban people, not just the waiter who is bringing you the mohito at the pool. >> reporter: more than a dozen american entities have been granted licenses by the treasury department to bring groups of americans into cuba, for either educational, religious or people to people tours. newlyweds jenny and tori davis jumped on one of the very first tours with a group named inside cuba. >> they have to be cultural trips. you can't do certain things on your own. >> reporter: which means you have to sit through a lecture here and a talk there.

in order to have the privilege of seeing cuba. our group's itinerary included a stop at a local orphanage, a museum dedicated to the cuban revelation and an organized block party. the official goal for americans and cubans to foster relationships lost under years of a strict embargo. unfortunately, under that same embargo, while americans can see cuba, they can't bring much of it home. buying anything art is permitted. purchasing cigars isn't. but no one gets slapped for smoking them. even with the monetary restriction, there's no doubt that increased american travels will have an impact on the island's economy. >> it will mean more income in cuba, both for entrepreneurs that run bed and breakfasts and

restaurants and more income for the cuban tourism industry. >> reporter: cubans caution that although helpful, this is only one small step. >> they will be leaving the location totally. without anything to say, you have to come under this category, you have to come under that category. so if people can go any place in the world, why not come into cuba? >> reporter: for the foreseeable future, though, there's no way around it. if you want to see, taste and experience a country cut off from america for almost half a century, you'll have to participate in some preplanned activities. no one on our trip seemed to miss sitting by the pool. >> it has been such an incredibly educational experience. we have met very passionate people and it is the people interaction that's been very valuable. >> reporter: and nothing could make the cubans happier. >> they learn from us, exactly from us and the cuban people. that's important.

>> and joining us now, peter greenberg. it looked like a great trip. >> it was. but i have to tell you, unfortunately it's not cheap right now. a weekend trip, the one we went with, will set you back about $1,800. the good news is, the law of supply and demand is kicking in right now. flights from florida to cuba, over $300 a month now. american eagle is now servicing this as a charter flight as well as delta. with more flights, those rates will come down. >> any downtime at all on the vacation? >> you bet. of course. everybody had a chance to sneak out and do your own thing. >> and just to clarify, the art of cigar rolling, not anything you can purchase and bring act. >> you can purchase it, you can smoke it there, but don't bring it back.

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and good morning. top of the hour. welcome back to "the early show" here on a tuesday morning. i'm chris wragge along with erica hill. >> nice to have you with us this morning. want to get you a quick check off your top stories this morning. jeff glor is standing by at the news desk ready with those. >> good morning to you. a new study suggests dietary supplements may shorten your life. the 19 year study averaged about 40,000 women. those taking vitamin b6, iron,

zinc folic add appeared to increase the risk of death. an autopsy found steve jobs died of cardiac arrest. a memorial service is planned at apple's california headquarters a week from tomorrow. a new analysis of credit scores nationwide shows a town in wisconsin to be the most creditworthy town in america. while harlling, texas, is rated last. wassau residents have the highest average credit score of 789. harlingen's is 686. jackson, mississippi and bakersfield are lower rated. and a wild kingdom confrontation. watch this. an antelope charges out of the brush and head butts a biker.

it happened during a race in south africa. the video was recorded via helmet cam and the rider behind him, the bike rider was hit hard but dazed and okay now, they say. >> ooh. you know the antelopes were egging that guy as we know, so many people across this country are looking

for a job right thou. they are trying every tool possible, including a popular website where they've been asking for help, which they may have done in the past, but it's a little different now. >> a little different spin. the ads on craigslist have more desperation now. >> from a straightforward request, i need work, to a more ee lap elaborate appeal, i really need help and am willing to work, craigslist has gone from a place to buy and sell goods to a forum for people desperately seeking employment. >> you can post jobs on there and if it's out there, they'll call, e-mail us. >> for marianne and her husband, wayne, craigslist was a last resort in their search for work. >> we figure, what can it hurt? you give it a try. >> when wayne lost his jobs two months ago, they found themselves unable to pay rent on their home and had to move into this trailer. >> it's stressful. we don't hardly sleep, hardly

eat. it's -- when we run into our friends and people that we know, they're like, you look terrible. what is going on? you can see it on you. >> we don't tell them. >> we don't tell anybody how hard we're having it. >> chooig chile krasslist has always been a place for job hunters, recent ads show people looking for any kind of employment. we saw posting after posting across the country. this man, a father of two. i'm currently available to work full time and any overtime if necessary. looking for work with no success. and this man with a baby on the way. i'm looking for work, whatever it takes to get paid. >> they're trying to get their life going. they're trying to start a career and nothing is available as far as work is concerned. and so this is at least a way to get their foot in the water. and so craigslist is a sort of stopgap to fill in the holes when people are short of cash.

although it's not ideal, the chosers are glad they tried craigslist. >> it gave us us work, put decent, honest money in our pocket and we work, we get to do things together. >> and that's the main thing. >> reporter: so for now, they'll continue to post and do the odd jobs they advertised they can do. and hope for something more permanent. cbs news, new york. >> craigslist sent thus statement. the craigslist community has always been quick to help out. while we're not surprised to see users posting and looking for odd jobs on our site during such bleak economic times, we're heartened to know that the community is responsive to these ads. >> you see so many people speaking up in all different ways. the occupy wall street movement is going into worldwide

protests, the jobs bill, and here at home, many folks are looking for work or worried about the fact that they may soon lose their job. many people want to know, just what it it take for the economy to recover? well web thought we would try asking two men who might know this morning. they just won the nobel prize for economics. they may not have all the answers, but they definitely have more tools to give it a shot than we would for you. princeton university profester christopher sims and thomas sargent who is a visiting professor at princeton. good to have you with us. >> thank you. >> you guys have quite a history together. as i understand it, you went to school together, you've that you taught together in the past. we know you work well together. as so many people look at the economy nowadays, there is a short-term and a long-term problem. i know you specialize in macroeconomics, but can you give us an idea, thomas, maybe in the short-term, what is something that could be done to give this economy a boost?

>> so that's a very difficult question to answer. there's a lot of uncertainty now, both in europe and the united states about what future government policy is going to be. and probably the best thing politicians can do is quickly reach compromises and have coherent plans going forward. there are many ways that can be resolved. congress now is debating how big the united states government is going to be, how big the states are going to be. the sooner that's resolved, the better. >> so we need to have a little understanding, a little working together in washington. a lot of americans agree, likely, that that would be a good way to go. christopher, when you look at the long-term, what are some steps we can take now in this country to avoid a repeat of this vacation? >> well, the situation came

about in part because we allowed the financial regulatory apparatus to become stale. it was in part taken over by the people who were supposed to be regulated and people were forgetting lessons of the past about the need for regulation and monitoring to be sure that private interest didn't lead to systemwide weaknesses. so -- >> so you think there needs to be more oversight? >> there needs to be more oversight. but then on the other hand, there's also the problem of the -- i think the uncertainty about our long run government fiscal policies is also a contributor to the financial instability. you see that in the way the stock market responds to every little bit of news about political developments in europe

and to things like the standoff over the debt limit in the united states. >> thomas, is there anything you can point to for the folks at home that you see as a possible moving forward? >> actually, there's lots of positives. if you compare what's happened with what could have happened, things could have been much worse. if you -- so the monetary authorities have taken extraordinary efforts in the last two or three years, largely without help from the fiscal authorities, like the congress and the administration setting taxes and expenditures and they've -- unemployment is 9%. it's not 25%, like it was when frankly roosevelt took office and under various scenarios, that could have happened to us. >> well, we are happy that it didn't. thomas sargent, christopher

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is so unfair. why me? so i made the decision to do a partial mastectomy. everything was going along fine until about 1999 when i detected a slight pain in my right hip. and my doctor ordered a bone scan and it came back that there was a spot of cancer on my right hip and on my right shoulder. so i got the news that it had metastasized. i will be 59 this year and i remember starting this journey and i had turned 43. so i just see the years, you know, going by. and you're dealing with arthritis, you have sciatic nerve pain, you get more acid indigestion, you know, you try to stay away from the spicy foods, you know, things like that. as the time goes by and i see that i'm living longer, i'm still fairly healthy. the doctors keep telling me that

i'm stable. it gives me a lot of hope. >> and you love the hear that there is hope out there. the cancer support community, kim thiboldeaux, thank you for being here this morning. >> good morning. >> it's wonderful to hear that there are higher survivor rates. but obviously, as you go on, when you're done with your cancer treatments, your needs don't end. so what are some of the medical needs specifically that cancer survivors face? >> absolutely. we're releasing a study today of more than 1,000 breast cancer survivors, what these survivors are telling us that there's a host of side effects and issues they're dealing with. they're dealing with things like fatigue, sleeplessness, they're worried about the future, how do i manage this? but with the senior population, it becomes more complicated. we're dealing with things like diabetes, heart disease, all of these different issues. we have 77 million baby boomers in this country who are going to be getting cancer and dealing with all of those other conditions. so it does get pretty complex.

>> female breast cancer, colorectal cancer, which in years past had low survival rates, but now that seems to be changing. what is it about these cancers that now more people are surviving? we're seeing great shift necessary treatment. breast cancers, we're doing mammograms webs webs colon canc we're doing screenings. a psa, which is controversial right now, obviously. but people are going out and getting their screenings and that's lead to go a higher survival rate. >> and that's leading to catching it early. >> that is how we're able to manage the decent in the short-term and the long-term. >> and what should cancer survivors be looking for? >> we try to sell folks, take the approach of medicine, mind and body, right? so you have to get with your doctor to make good treatment physicians. we found in the study only 15% of patients who went into their doctor got any information from

the team beforehand. so we're going to help patients to get educated, get that information and help them make decisions before they go in. we've got to address the social and emotional issues. in our study, 87% of patients were dealing with emotional issues. fear, anxiety, worry about the future. and the body. especially the baby boomers. they want to exercise, they want tips about nutrition, healthy lifestyle. when you pull all that together, that leads to better outcomes for cancer patients, especially when we look at this aging population. >> thank you so much. >> it's a great attitude like yours. that goes a long way. sometimes we lose sight of that. thank you so much. coming up next, the london bridge may be falling, but guess what? big ben is leading. we're going to tell you why the london landmark is giving the leaning tower of pisa a little competition on cbs. for me, bedtime was tough. the problem? right here. i couldn't breathe... i couldn't sleep

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doesn't that picture look a little off to you? no, not that, look at the clock tower there that houses big ben. hmm. it's getting a little extra attention this morning because it turns out it's leaning just a little bit. could it be approaching pisa status? we're checking in this morning with british journalist quentin letts. good to have you with us. it's leaning a little bit. it's the tower that is leaning, right, not the bell? because the bell is named big ben. >> reporter: and it's not me, either, greetings, erica, from a slightly windy london. if you look at that beautiful shot over my shoulder, your big eagle eye viewers might think, ooh, something is looking wonky there. it is leaning by 0.24 of a degree. that's not quite as bad as the leaning tower of pisa.

we have to go 4,000 years until we catch up with pisa, but she's leaning, it's true. since it's there in front of parliament, is it leaning left or right? >> this is very much the big political issue in britain which has a coalition government at the moment. they're all trying to claim it's going to the left or going to the right. but the big problem here is that big ben is the bell. we all refer to the clock as big ben. it's very much a symbol of britain. if she falls over, we are going to be bereft. it's quite a big problem. >> it would be a big problem. although, as you pointed out, we have a few thousand years to deal with it and perhaps come up with a solution. it is one of the most visited sites, though, in london, is it not? >> it is. as you look at it, you might think, that's an old building. by british terms, it's pretty new. it was built in the middle of 1800s. the reason it's leaning has nothing to do with simple old age. it'sed to with the excavations

that have been going on underneath, the tunnelling that has been required for the london tube, the underground railway system. so this is a man immediate problem. this has been literally undermined by engineers. and if engineers have caused the problem, well, perhaps they can come up with a solution before we find a way of putting her right again. >> that is my next question for you, do we have a solution. and just to be cheer, this is caused by the tunnelling, not by the rumblings in parliament. >> reporter: i think so, not by all that screaming and shouting that you might see, nor by the public hatred for politicians that happened here. no, it's to do with the tunnelling. there has been an awful lot of work done underneath appear a new line was put in ten years ago underneath. imagine if the statue of liberty started to lean over into the sudd hudson. it is that important to us. >> it is. the headlines if british newspapers are if an famously fantastic. best one you've seen in relation

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bottom of the hour. welcome back to "the early sh " show." i'm chris wragge along with erica hill. talk about hard labor. amber miller finished the chicago marathon while she was nine months pregnant. then seven hours later, she gave birth to a healthy 7-pound

daughter. her doctor gave her the go-ahead to run. i want to meet this doctor. this guy needs to have his license -- no, i'm kidding. she's run several other marathons. it's just an amazing story to think you can run. >> it's a great story. she was 39 months. it's not really nine months, it's ten. she was almost at ten. >> i don't care what it is. that is amazing to run a marathon under those conditions. also ahead, if you can't believe how much you or your kids spend on text messaging, there may be an alternative for you. it turns out charging for texts may soon be as outdated as the old rotary phone. >> what's that? >> we'll take a look at the free service from one tech giant which would combine texting and instant messaging. of course, we want to know if there might be a catch. >> there's always a catch. first, we usually think of fire fighting as a man's job. but there were female firefighters over 150 years ago.

>> and there are women firefighters today. >> these women are absolutely incredible, you guys. truly. so good morning. fire fighting can be a terrific lifelong career with starting salaries as high as $56,000. now, in this tough economy, fire departments like los angeles county are actively recruiting women. and keep in mind, when you see firefighters battling the flames in this story, you're seeing women at work opinion. this firefighter hoists heavy equipment, a tax to physical training and runs the same drills as the men. but at l.a. county fire station 149, heather hogelund is the only woman. >> when you get a call, does the adrenaline just start going and -- >> yes. if it's a fire call -- because the tones come out differently -- it's just buzz. i mean, everybody is moving. now we're getting dressed, thou we're getting ready. we're go, go, go, go.

>> reporter: this day starts not just with smoke, but a slither. do you ever feel that the men in your department don't look at you the same? >> that's heart to say. of course they don't look at me the same. i'm a girl. but i think i've earned their respect. >> hogelund has ten years on the jobs, often of california's vicious brush fires. but it took eight years to get hired. >> the women have to pass the same exact tests men do. that's why there are so few women. you have to be able to do the same job. i don't want to change it. i just want them to let me come and play. >> reporter: she plays by their rules. >> so it's just one big open room with little dividers. >> reporter: there's one shower. >> if i am in here -- >> women, occupied. give me my privacy. >> yeah. >> reporter: it's definitely

historically a male occculture. have you ever been given a hard time? >> yeah, but in a minor way. i give the new guys a hard time. it's part of our culture. i give it just ints i get it. >> so where do you stand with the percentage of women? >> right now, we have over 3,000 firefighters and 33 of them are females. >> wow. so 1%, basically. yeah. basically 1%. >> what do you think about that? >> well, we need to do better. >> reporter: to beef up those numbers, there's a new head of recruitment, kelly abadie. that's her with her husband and son and that's her with a hose. >> you don't have to be the biggest person. you don't have to be the strongest person. you just have to have the will to want to do it. >> right now at the academy, nearly half of the women wash out and they don't get enough applications. for every 1100 men, there are only 60 women.

jasmine sugera has been rising through the ranks for two decades. she's the only woman on a 72-member search team that deploys around the world. so one minute you can be with your son at home and what happens? >> and the next thing you're on a plane to haiti. we were at an apartment complex where two sisters were stuck, probably at least 42 feet deep. i dug the hole just deep enough, her hand came out and waved and then her face and she just smiled is at me. >> so the best part of your job? >> is making sure everyone gets home safely. >> but attracting women to this dangerous job is a nationwide problem. women make up only 3.7% of all firefighters. >> i run approximately 94 stories a day, up, down, and up, back down again. >> reporter: so veterans like miami firefighter isibel ocho oo are spreading the word that it's a great job for women.

ochoa got the news at work. >> and i hung up the phone and i was just speechless. the boys rushed into the room and they're like, what's wrong? i'm like, i finally made it. i made it into the calendar. heather won't be competing for a spot if the calendar. instead, she took off to rescue a 67-year-old who drove off a cliff and spent six days in a ravine. >> it a was just amazing that he was alive, to see the excitement on their faces. >> what would you say to other women who don't think that they can actually do this job? >> when i told my mom i want to do something that was different, that made a difference, her first thought was teacher, nurse. that wasn't going to be it foor me. it just wasn't enough. yeah, it's harder for me. i'm only 5'4". but i had to work harder and it means more. >> reporter: and the head of recruitment told me they're looking for women who have served in the military because they understand the culture and who have been athletes because they know how to work as a team. heather, of course, is a perfect example of that because she was a basketball player and she is also engaged to an l.a. county

fireman. we were laughing because think about the dating possibilities, yet another perk. when you're 1% of an all-male workforce, right? >> i don't know if they want to make that part of the recruiting tool or not. >> you never know. >> you mentioned half of the women don't make it through the training. it's about 13% for men. is it simply because it is more grueling for women? we're not built the same way as a man. our bodies don't do the same thing. >> yeah, it is difficult for them. they have to have special training to pass the test. they now have a mentoring program with l.a. county to help them understand the culture. they have been women that felt harassed. they're working on that. there have been difficulties letting them know exactly what they need to do, the test and the 16-week academy, which is extremely difficult. >> more firehouses, everything is built around the meals. in the kitchen area, they bust each other's chops all the time. >> understanding the culture is

really important. >> thank you. now here is jeff glor at the news desk with another check off today's headlines. >> and you have to run 94 stories a day. >> we did that before we went on air. early this morning, protesters were arrested in boston associated with the occupy wall street movement. the protesters refused to leave their place in a park. people were arrested motorially for trespassing. the new york stock exchange says two apparent attacks on its website by hackers linked to the website failed. an internet security firm says hackers struck one during trading and again after hours. an exchange spokesman says neither the website nor the big board were disrupted. for the second time in two months, a florida salvage company reports finding sunken treasure in the north atlantic. a british cargo ship toe peatoed by a german u-boat in 1917 with up to 20 tons of silver in its hold. the estimated value is $19

million. and some of the jewelry owned by elizabeth taylor is about to hit the auction block. more than 260 jewels are for sale, including the famous 33 carat white diamond ring. the auction begins in december. it's expected to bring in at least $30 million. now more on the marathon mom that chris and erica just mentioned. she was 39 weeks pregnant, but still with a doctor's okay, she ran the chicago marathon this past weekend. then the baby said, i'm coming out. susan mcginnis has this story. >> reporter: the chicago marathon, 45,000 runners from all 50 states and more than 100 countries. and somewhere in that sweating sea of humanity, 27-year-old, nine-month pregnant amber miller. amber ran a 26.2 miles on sunday in an amazing 6 hours and 25

minutes. beating husband, joe, by 19 minutes. and then, just a few hours later -- >> i started labor soon after. oh, i thought it was labor soon after the race was over around 3:00. i was having the conversation with my parents the night before, saturday night, and i was telling them, you know what? i -- honestly, i have no plans of actually finishing because obviously, i never -- i have run a marathon pregnant, but not 38 weeks. >> that's right. she was only four months along when she ran a marathon during her first pregnancy. on sunday, joe miller was supportive, but nervous. >> what are you going to do? you go into labor downtown and right in the middle of a marathon with 40,000 people? >> i was feeling good. i started out by running to, walk to, and wasn't having any problem, was feeling good. the baby was moving. i was drinking, eating. >> oh, and after finishing that marathon during her first pregnancy, amber wasn't done. >> she hiked to the top of matupitu.

>> while she was pregnant with him? >> while she was pregnant with him. >> mom and baby girl are both doing fine this morning, but both are just a little tired. >> yesterday was pretty stressful for her, too. >> susan every year, 2 trillion text messageses are sent to the u.s. alone, and that can get expensive. but there may be a game-changing moment tomorrow. >> we're learning apple will roll out i message, a cross between texting and instant

messa messaging. it will be free, free with an asterisk. johnny has more for us this morning. this could be good news if you use an apple device and you want to communicate with someone using an apple device. >> yes. i see you have your blackberry there. everybody who use blackberry mess aenger knows exactly what apple is getting into. they're privatizing texting, they're taking the money away trt carriers. they're making it easier for you to communicate with other people who have the same devices. so it's all about getting apple devi devices. >> what do those carriers think about that? >> they stand to lose billions and billions of dollars. they're not making money off calls any more. they're making money off selling you data, 3g network, 4g network. imf uses the 3g and 4g networks, but they're taking money out of the carriers pockets.

>> customers going to save money? >> yeah. if you don't need to have a texting plan, why would you? >> but as we point out, you have to go to iphone or ipad or itouch. >> yeah. that's the thing. but again, blackberry does it and people swear by it. apple owns like 5% of the world's phone market, but that's pretty big. >> what about -- so if you get rid of that cost, you mentioned they're making money on these 3g and 4g plans. is this going to affect your data usage? will they end up getting you there? >> yeah. and they are getting you there because they're charging you a lot for capped service when you're not in a wi-fi hot spot. but texts are very, very small. they don't take up a lot of data. you can send pictures and videos, as well, and that will eat into your data plan. but that's just fine because you're not paying that extra bit for everything you send or that extra 20 bucks on top of a data plan which is what people are doing now. >> is it going to look the same? >> to the naked eye, absolutely

identical. >> any chance that this could ever -- you know, you could marry a bvm and this i message and somehow create something that creates difficult communication? >> yeah. the downside, the proprietary approach is that this will deal only with other iphones. and the beauty of texting, all you need to know is someone's phone number and that's it. so if i have your phone number, i can send you a text and i don't have to think about it. with these separate networks, you kind of have to think about it a little bit. >> so good, not great, right? we like it, we don't love it, not just yet. it's a step forward. just ahead, can a movie capture the tough, grueling world of competitive bird watching? well, who better to give it a shot than jack black, steve martin and owen wilson who will tell us about the big year.

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and jack black, together on the big screen. >> recently, they spoke with cbs news correspondent tracy smith about their new movie and she joins us here this morning to talk about that. >> good morning. so the film is called "the big year" and it takes place in the world of competitive bird watching. i know that sounds made up, but it really exists. when i met up with the three jokesters in central park, i soon realized the thing they're most competitive about is laughs. >> this is my friend, brad hair it's, who is also not doing a big year. >> big footed goose, other end of the boardwalk! so are you guys the new "three amight go meigos? >> three bird watching amigos. >> i think the amigos are written in stone with marty short and chevy chase. >> i don't know. into the a bad sequel, though, is it? >> the three amigos!

>> when you got the script about competitive bird watching, what was your thought? >> that was the key, competitive. just bird watching, let me tell. >> it was the competitive part? >> it was the competitive. >> what about the bird watching part? >> i was fascinated. >> it's sort of a metaphor. >> this, i'm interested in. metaphor for what? >> i don't have much to -- i'm sort of ending it after it's sort of a metaphor. >> it's about three men locked in a battle of whits and brawn and skill. >> think like him, act like him. one of us has to beat this s.o.b. >> how competitive are you guys? who is the most competitive? >> jack. >> i'm obsessively competitive. i like to win. >> i'm a competitive interviewer -- interviewee. >> you can say that again. >> i'm really trying to win this

interview. >> you need to dominate this interview? >> yeah. >> how do you think he's doing, score so far? >> all tell, i think i'm doing great. >> sorry to disappoint you boys, again. >> this movie is really about self-discovery. what have you discovered about yourself along the way? >> one of the biggest discoveries for me that actually changed my outlook about myself and my career was that my career wasn't going away. you know, i was a -- kind of had a big splash as a standup comedian and then i did some movies and i thought, is it over? is it going to be over? and then at a certain point, i accepted that it was actually not going to be over. and that really changed my outlook of my life. how so? >> i could relax. and i realized that as -- you know, you get very -- when you saturday out, you're very sensitive to critics and bad

reviews and things. and then you realize that, no, your career does go on. >> how about you guys? >> well, self-discovery, jack has a good solve discovery -- >> do i? is that a pass? let me think here. i have discovered that -- >> anyway, i think owen has a good story. >> life is what happens while you're making other plans. >> good, good. you know, i saw your embroidery that you did that had that on there. that was really nice in your trailer. >> were you guys -- i mean, you're working with a legend here. i hope you don't mind that word. >> how dare you call me a legend. >> did you have expectations coming in on what this would be like? >> well, i felt sort of, you know, i was just happy to hear that jack and steve were going to be in the movie because it

sort of takes some of the load off. >> you can imagine how i felt when i was learned that i was going to be working with two actors who aren't legends. like, oh, my god, what is this going to be like? >> the whole idea here is you take a year off to count. if you can take a year to follow your passion, what would you follow? what would you do? >> i would like to go on a spiritual journey, yeah. i'd like to take some time to just do some meditating and getting back to nature. >> i think i would relax and not too much special, except see my friends. >> so the passion you would pursue is relationships? >> relationships, yeah. >> i think i would like to try to make swim in all the oceans.

>> wow. >> and seas as i travel around to all those and is be able to say at the end -- >> you can start right here. >> you can start in central park. >> i think that would be a big week, though. the oceans, there's only five, though, right? >> and seas. >> then maybe just visit all the 7-elevens. that would take at least a year. >> in texas. >> it could be the big year of the big gulf. >> yeah. know all the landmark 7-elevens. >> as we can see, they're very serious men and very serious tones with your conversation. >> somber, yeah. they're pencive, but they're always thinking about the funny. they're serious about being funny. did you see at the top of the piece what jack and owen were doing? >> they were holding hands. >> they were holding hands. they planned that bit and then at the earn were very concerned we saw that on camera.

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