hermin' cain on the offensive defense those accusing him of being a serial sexual harasser. >> the accusations, i absolutely reject. they simply didn't happen. >> this as yet oos womt alleged inappropriate behavior on his part becomes forward publicly. we will tell you how the cain controversy could impact tonight's republican debate. >> we want joe! >> a late night rally in support of penn state coach joe paterno but the pressure continues to grow on him to step down in the wake of a sex scandal engulfing penn state football. could he be forced to resign by the end of the week. we will the latest on the resignations and speak to one of paterno's former stars. a private eye reveals he was paid to spy on prince william

and prince harry and dozen of other high profile figures. we will tell about the latest scandal on rupert murdoch's e empi empire" early" this wednesday morning, november 9th, 2011. good morning. welcome to "the early show" on a wednesday morning. not a bad way to start the day there. >> a beautiful shot. >> i'm chris wragge. >> i'm erica hill. nice to have you back. >> good to be back. herman cain is not backing down one inch and rejecting the claims of four women who say he sexually harassed them in the 1990s. >> on tuesday he called his latest accuser a liar. jan crawford has more from washington. >> reporter: cain categorically denied all of the allegations of harassment and said he would take a high detector test to prove he is telling the truth.

confronted with allegations he groped a chicago woman in 1997, herman cain's denial was forceful. >> the charges and the accusatio accusations, i absolutely reject. they simply didn't happen. >> reporter: cain described watching bialek's monday press conference and having no idea who she was. >> as they got to the microphone, my first response in my mind and reaction was, i don't even know who this woman is. >> reporter: bialek's accusations were specific. >> he also grabbed my head and brought it towards his crotch. >> reporter: another woman, karen kraushaar confirmed tuesday she filed a complainant alleging cain harassed her in 1999. kraushaar who had not been previously identified told cbs news the whole situation is so

volatile right now i don't want to say any more. cain said her allegations also are false. >> when she made her accusations, they were found to be baseless and she could not find anyone to corroborate her story. >> reporter: the restaurant association has confirmed it reached an agreement with kraushaar without any admission of liability. cain's campaign is mounting an aggressive defense, e-mailing to reporters on tuesday a list of sharon bialek's past and current financial difficulties. lin wood has been hired. including john and patsy ramsey and gary condit who was wrongly implicated in the murder of chandra levy. >> herman cain finds himself, over the course of the last several days, now on trial in

the court of public opinion. falsely accused. >> reporter: now karen kraush r kraushaar's attorney told me last night she and bialek have agreed to hold a joint press conference detailing their allegations against cain and they are inviting other women who have made allegations against them to join them. they can expect scrutiny of their own. the associated press is reporting that kraushaar filed another harassment complaint against a different supervisor at her next job. >> jan, thanks. with us in the studio is republican strategist leslie sanchez and amy holmes, news anchor for the blaze. good to have you both with us this morning. leslie, as a strategist, you're looking at this and looking at the way that herman cain has handled the situation since it first broke ten days ago or so. would you have advised him to handle it in the way he has? >> absolutely not. i would have said go a different direction. he had to change the narrative

yesterday. people were looking for him to take accountable. i think news conference yesterday was amateurish it created more speculation and kind of challenged not only the media but some of these women to kind of clarify their side of the story. >> can he get a handle on it at this point? >> i think it's extremely difficult. not only the presser of these women press conferences i think, devastating from a political perspective but he had an opportunity and i think that was a missed opportunity yesterday. >> how does he now change the narrative? because like leslie said, yesterday looks like for all intents and purposes a big misstep. >> it was a big misstep and i think it will be difficult for him to do that. in the republican debate all eyes will be on him looking for any kind of policy stumbles now even more scrutiny and won't be considered refreshing, candid, nonpolitician speak. i think instead of closing the door on the story, i think he opened a can of worms when he said that he would be willing to

take that lie detector test. gloria all red was insisting he say before oath this is his truth statement. >> now you're culpable until you take a lie detector test. it wasn't thinking the steps through. the gray area, never met them, never saw her, never did it. a receipt anyone saw them, a picture exposes it casts additional doubt. >> what does this mean? there are some reports out of chicago these two were seen in the last couple of months embracing almost to the effect they did know each other from some prior experience. if anything should come out, what does this then do to herman cain when he says i don't recognize this woman and she claims totally different? >> we have been down this road with political scandals before, deny, deny, deny, until there is a picture. that is exactly i think kind of the situation we are in right now. one situation or two women coming forward could be

plausible. it's hard to say. you start getting three, four and it looks like a pattern and the question is this is a very difficult thing, sexual harassment for women to be a footnote in history essentially and decide to put their name for the rest of history next to a presidential candidate. it's a very tough decision and we have to take it seriously. >> as we are hearing from jan, more women now coming forward and saying, okay, this is who i am, how does that then change the dialogue for him? >> we are already seeing a change the dialogue. reuters has a poll out after the press conference of sharon bialek that 39% of goppers, they believed her and seeing his ratings are slipping. it's 57 now actually behind mitt romney. as more women come out this lends credibility to the allegations and gains momentum and time is precious on a campaign and he is spending a whole lot of time on this issue. >> what is the thinking within the republican party at this point? other candidates have been mum which i'm sure you would advise your candidate to do were you advising any other republican

presidential candidates. in the party is there talk how he is handling this and where it goes? hech herman conta aan cain -- we aree mississippi governor haley barbour saying he needs to clarify and make a statement. he was formally the chairman of the former republican governors situation. he can pick up the phone and talk to party leaders about this person. >> thank you both. another story here. latest on a child sex scandal involving former penn state coach jerry sandusky. this morning he faces new accusations of involving a ninth boy. >> head coach joe paterno, is being called upon to resign. armen keteyian has the latest this morning. >> reporter: with the school he helped build into a national powerhouse reeling from scandal, joe paterno came out of his

house tuesday night to greet jubilant supporters. >> it's hard for me to tell you what this means to me. >> reporter: after thanking the students, paterno addressed the issue that has put his job and legacy in jeopardy. >> the kids that were victims, we need to say a prayer for them. tough life. when people do certain things to you. but, anyway, you've been great. you're great, all right? >> we love you, joe! >> reporter: but it won't drown out the critics across happy valley and across the country. calls for the school's president to resign and joe paterno to step aside. in a statement the board said it was outraged by the scandal. our hearts you go on to all of those impacted by these terrible events, especially the tragedies involving children and their

families. we want to assure that the board will take swift, decisive action. paterno's son scott said his father is focused on saturday's game. >> no contact from the university other than we are coaching football. >> how is he feeling? >> he is getting ready for a football game. >> reporter: more questions whether paterno should have alerted the police when told in 2002 of the an alleged sexual assault by former defensive coordinator jerry sandusky of a 10-year-old boy. >> what is the meaning of these games at this point? >> reporter: former penn state all-american linebacker lavar arrington is one of them. >> i think everybody who knew something had a moral duty to do something. >> reporter: matt millen, oo former nfl all-pro turned broadcaster, broke down discussing the impact of the scandal. >> it's pretty disturbing. it makes you sick. to see that this could happen and if we can't protect our

kids, we, as a society, are pathetic. >> reporter: as for sandusky who has professed his innocence a court appearance for today has been postponed for december. police, have confirmed that a ninth victim has come forward. >> sblis this something that paterno survives? >> short term, i think he does survive this. penn state has five games left for the rest of the season. i could foresee a scenario he makes it through the season. long term, next year, i don't see him coaching again at penn state. as far as his towering legacy, this pius figure in college football, that legacy is being rewritten as we speak. >> is it tarnished? >> it's absolutely tarnished, no question. >> thank you, armen. o.j. mcduffie a wide receiver formerly at penn state is joining us. does joe keep his job, in your

estimation, or does he become the high profile fallguy in an ugly situation? >> it is a terrible situation and it's going to be tough for coach to retain his job. i mean, it's just very ugly and, you know, you look at all of the wins that joe has, it means nothing compared to what is going on at the university right now. and, you know, joe legally, obviously, did the right thing but morally, i don't know. i think if joe had a chance to do it all over again, he would do things a little differently. >> reporter: is it your believe he is not at fault here but should have done more when he found out about these allegations? >> yeah. . i think everybody looking back would do things a little different. i think mike mcqury would have handled it differently and the other guys. the real situation is what jerry has done. jerry put a lot of these guys and especially these poor innocent little boys, you know, at victims, he has put everybody in the situation.

the fact the other guys didn't do much about it, let's really look at what jerry has done with an eyewitness account by michael mcqurry a bad situation he has put everybody in. the guys thought long and hard about what to do but i think if they did it again, they would go to authorities. >> you're a proud alumni of penn state. with the way they are acting with damage control, what would you say? >> they handled the situation, obviously, very terrible. when there are allegations in '98 and something else happened in 2002, we could have avoided the -- the university could have avoided other young men, you know, being preyed on by this guy. i think going forward now, i think they are trying to do the right thing and getting joe prepared to depart the university, you know? i think they will try to get him out a number of different ways now. i think this is the final straw. this happened on joe's watch,

it's going to, you know, tarnish what he has already built and is probably going to be the end of his career at penn state, in my opinion. >> can the school recover from something like this, do you think? >> you know what? i talked about it a lot with my friends and, you know, as a former player, i'd rather we have ncaa violations, tattoos and hanging out with a booster than something like this. this is appalling what has happened at our university and it's going take a long time for us to come back from this. i know joe has built fine young men and i'm proud of the fact i went to penn state and i know joe is a great man. i hope he is able to recover from this and hopefully the university does but the fact is the young boys affected in this. >> how disappointed are you in your former head coach? >> well, you know what? i love him to death. he's a great man. he has mowed a lot of young men

like myself not only in football players but being the best fathers and family members we can be. joe is a great guy. like i said earlier, i felt like if he could do it over again, he would go to authority. i think he might have fumbled this time and it's just bad that nobody, absolutely nobody went to the authorities in a timely manner. >> o.j. mcduffie, thank you for the time and speaking with us this morning. we do appreciate it. >> thank you. thank you for having me. >> o.j. a former all-american in that career and an nfl career. a lot of alumni looking back and thinking how could this happen and you have to clean house. you've got to rid yourself of the situation. >> hard for a lot of people to imagine why someone would not then, you know, continue and go on to the authorities after that. jeff glor is at the news desk with our first check of the headlines for you. i got ahead of myself. >> no problem. good morning. election day yesterday. key issues on ballots around the

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welcome back. start of a beautiful day here. this is "the early show." i'm chris wragge, along with erica hill. >> good morning again. >> good morning again. let's get to the latest on michael jackson's doctor p. dr. conrad murray will spend the next three weeks behind bars before he is sentenced for causing jackson's death. where he goes after that and for how long is anyone's guess. as national correspondent ben tracy reports. >> reporter: after dr. conrad murray was led away in handcuffs in the courtroom, he was taken here to the twin towers of the county jail in downtown los angeles. this will be murray's home until his sentencing on november 29th. reportedly kept alone in his own cell similar to this one. >> conrad murray is considered to be what is called a keep-away inmate. he will be kept away from the general population. he won't eat with them, he won't visit with them. he won't spend any time on the yard with them. conrad murray will be kept in

virtual isolation really for his own safety. >> reporter: l.a. county jail spokesperson says no truth to earlier reports that murray has been placed on a suicide watch. he will likely lose his medical license. and he is facing up to four years in prison. but many legal experts say he'll likely serve far less and probably in a jail because california's prisons are so overcrowded. >> it's overcrowded on the state level and the local level and on the state level, they can't just release you to the streets so they release you to the l.a. county facilities and because the l.a. county facilities can't house you, they release you to house arrest, electronic monitoring and in some instances where it's a low level crime releases you even to beach cleanup. ♪ reaching out >> reporter: sxdespite list rol in a pop icon. >> it will be very difficult to achieve an appropriate sentence of incarceration for dr. conrad murray. >> reporter: however, the judge could go for the maximum sentence.

he already shows he will be tough on murray by immediately sending him to jail. >> this is where the end result is the death of a human being. that factor demonstrates rather dramatically the public should be protected. >> reporter: while murray's lawyers plan to appeal the guilty verdict, he also faces civil suits for medical malpractice and wrongful death. ben tracy, cbs news, los angeles. >> turning now to britain where this morning, another royal pain for rupert murdoch's newspapers. >> the tabloid at the heart of britain's phone hacking scandal is accused of spying on public figures, among them is prince william and prince harry. charlie d'agata joins us from london, england with more. >> reporter: we called the palace this morning, and there is no comment and they don't plan to comment. one incident goes back to 2006 when a detective said he tailed prince william and kate middleton to prince harry's house under the nose of protection officers. even away from the prince's many

public appearanceses private eye derrick webb was watching and roaredi i recording their every move. >> i would write down what they were wearing at the time, what car they were in, who they met. the location medict. the times were very important. >> reporter: he would then report back to news of the world newspaper and it went on from three until murdoch shut it down in july. prince william and prince harry topped the list of more than a hundred celebrities the former policeman said he kept tabs on. others including angelina jolie and daniel radcliffe and paul mccartney. webb says he is not ashamed and nothing he did qa illegal so why come forward now in money, mostly. while some "news of the world" staffers got the huge payouts

when the paper closed, he got nothing. now, instead of a paycheck he is getting some payback. >> it's appeared in the paper, scoops and even if it's appearing inside, then they are all getting all of the credit for it. >> reporter: the timing couldn't be much worse for the murdochs. james murdoch will face british politicians for the second time tomorrow over the hacking scandal. they may want to know what he knew about this too. chris? >> cbs' charlie d'agata in london for us. the

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new parents have to face a once in a lifetime choice. whether or not to save their baby's yum bill cal cord blood which holds stem cells that could help treat serious injuries. >> this could come in handy later. we are learning some blood banks maybe be unreliable and potentially putting the opportunity to safe a life at risk. ginger allen of ktvh has one family's story. >> i never dreamed i would need it. it was just if, it was an if is what it was. >> reporter: crystal didn't want to take any chances when her son was born so she decided to save his cord blood and paid bile bank usa more than $2,000 to

save it. she didn't give it a second thought until her second child was born. >> this was the first day we came home from the hospital with my daughter. >> reporter: this is trinity. directors believe she may have a he is seriously illness. they are still running medical tests, but depending upon the diagnosis, her brother's cord blood could hold the cure. >> i have cried and cried over my daughter. i have prayed and prayed for a miracle. >> reporter: this summer crystal prince tried to contact bile bank usa in monterey, california. calling e-mails and calling all hours of the day and got no answer. >> all of these questions run through your mind. is my cord blood there? has the business gone under? is the cord blood missing j prince lives in sunset, texas. 1,600 miles away from the blood bank, so she turned to us for help. we traveled to california looking for answers and found a

company in trouble. hello? this is bile bank usa where parents across the country may still think they are storing their children's life-saving core blood. there is nothing left here but this sign. the food and drug administration is charged with regulating companies that store cord blood but we checked the records and found it had been two years since the fda had done an inspection here. the department of health admitted to us there hadn't been a medical doctor here since last october and, for that reason, it should have been shut down and all of the blood should have been transported last year. after cbs 11 started investigating why regulators hadn't stepped in sooner, the state of california automatically revoked the company's license for failinging to maintaining records and not monitoring the temperature of storage devices all while continuing to collect money from customers. the state eventually transported

the blood to this facility in los angeles called family cord. that is where we located the tank. this is your newest tank? >> newest tank around the corner, the newest member of our family. august 1st we took possession of this tank of biobanc. the cord blood cannot be tested unless it's thawed but once it's thawed it can't be stored and must be used mmedly. in a sense, a person never really knows until it may be time or too late? >> exactly. no way to have complete insurance without ruining it. >> reporter: one person who probably does know how well the tank is maintained is robert haner, the owner of biobanc usa. we tried to find him at his pebble beach home. his wife admitted it was a tough two years and insisted her husband would return our call. we never heard from him. we have learned that he filed bankruptcy earlier this year and owes up to $10 million.

>> i am very angry for the fact that somebody might have just taken something that could have saved my daughter's life but what will hurt me the worse is losing my child because somebody might have been too careless. >> reporter: that new cord blood bank in los angeles is now taking inventory of the tank and testing some control samples that are kept inside these tanks. and i can tell you i did speak to the company last night and a representative there tells me they should be able to let parents know by the end of the year the results of those control samples and the good news for parents out there this morning, they tell me they do believe so far those samples may be viable which is an indication the rest of the tank is okay. >> that could be a good sign. when you look at the private companies going out of bounds gives people paws if they are considering this. i know is there a public option where you donate the cord blood but then do you have access to it after? >> reporter: you do have access

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tackle that. >> it's a two-year deal for families in this country to bet broadband internet access for $10 a month? >> that's right. a number of companies and community groups have stepped up, heard the challenge and said, listen. this is something we need to tackle as a country and we need to be part of the solution. we are going to make it easier for low income people, particularly low income families with children on school lunch, to get online. >> you've asked companies to step forward and help out. this is coming at no cost to the taxpayers. how were you able to manage this? >> this is a win/win for the country, for all of the companies involved. if we can close that adoption gap, if we can go from 67% to a hundred percent, we will double the size of the online market in the united states. we will get more kids educated on new technologies. we will help people find jobs. one point. if you're looking for a job today and you don't have online access, you're in trouble because all of the job postings

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♪ top of the hour. welcome back to "the early show." i'm yerica hill, along with chrs wragge. children have parents who have gone off to war understandably, it's tough for those kids to say good-bye to their parent, tough to live with it and tough to even talk about it. you'll meet some of them this morning. we will show you how the army is helping these kids and their families learn how to get through that strain. speaking of kids. a new recommendation says we should talk to them about skin cancer and the risky things that can lead to it like indoor tanning. >> the hit will be don't hit them with a health angle.

>> all it takes is a bad burn. the controversy surrounding republican front-runner herman cain the gop candidates holding another debate tonight in michigan and the unemployment rate there is higher by two points than the national average. dean reynolds joins us with a preview this morning. >> reporter: tonight's debate is supposed to be about the economy. so theoretical the candidates will have something to talk about besides herman cain's troubles. because of the impact on cain's campaign, obviously, they will be in the background. and, besides, cain can't seem to stop talking about them. >> we are not going to allow washington or politics to deny me the opportunity to represent this great nation.

and as far as these accusations causing me to back off and maybe withdrawal from this presidential primary race, ain't going to happen. >> reporter: now, his republican foes vary in their reaction to this. some of them calling this an unwanted distraction. others asking for fuller disclosure. mitt romney has called the accusations disturbing. you are sure to hear calls for economic renewal for repealing the national health care law or freezing or lowering taxes and cutting spending. all of these candidates have their own economic plan. romney's has 59 points to it. and it's interesting that while we have been concentrating on herman cain, the white house and the democratic national committee has been concentrating very much on mitt romney, suggesting they believe that he

will be the eventual nominee. take a look at the full-page ads by the dnc in the papers today attacking romney for the opposition of the bailout of chrysler and gm which, incidentally, just posted a $1.7 billion profit in the third quarter. they are attacking romney. they are saying that mitt romney's plan for michigan's automobile industry let detroit go bankruptcy. so he may have to explain that, but at least he'll be able to talk about something other than herman cain's problems. as former utah governor jon huntsman said of the cain saga, it takes all of the oxygen out of the room and we are not able to have legitimate conversations about where this country goes. we get consumed, he said, by the scandal of the moment. erica. >> dean reynolds for us in rochester, michigan, this morning, thanks. on tuesday, a senate

committee investigating the gunwalking scandal spent hours questioning the attorney general who testified operation fast and furious that is tied to the murder of a border agent should never happen again. >> sharyl attkisson is in washington with the latest for us this morning. >> reporter: border patrol agent brian terry was gunned down in arizona near the mexican border 11 months ago. two assault rifles atf allegedly let walk into the hands of mexican drug cartels in an operation called fast and furious were found at the scene. terry's family say they have they watched the senate hearing yesterday with attorney general eric holder hoping to find some answers. >> would you like to apologize today for this program that went so wrong, that took the life of a united states law enforcement agent? >> i certainly regret what happened to agent brian terry. it is not fair, however, to

assume the mistakes that happened in fast and furious directly led to the death of agent terry. >> reporter: nobody watched attorney general holder's testimony with greater than interest brian terry's father kent and his mother josie. >> i thought he was very evasive. i thought that this is the second time around and i still didn't get nothing out of it at all. it seemed like all of the questions that he was asked, he was evading or throwing someone else underneath the bus. >> well, we heard five different stories and every time we hear one, it's different. we never got a straight answer. >> reporter: for the first time, brian's parents, who were divorced, spoke at length about saying good-bye to their son, a former marine and their long search for answers. >> the last time brian was home, we were just talking about something and he says, you know, mom, he said something bad is going to happen. he said i just had that feeling. he said somebody -- somebody is going to get hurt.

>> reporter: brian's mom watches videos of him on the computer. his dad says he finds it hard to visit his son's grave site. >> it's rough. i could answer, it's been pure hell is what it's been. >> i just remember things he said and -- i don't know. i can't explain it. always looked out for me and i miss that. >> reporter: both say they are still waiting for some official to take responsibility for the gunwalking operation that trafficked the weapons found at the murder scene. >> i couldn't believe that something like that would happen. i just couldn't believe that they would let those guns go over the border and all of them other innocent people in mexico getting killed with the same guns. >> my mom used to tell me that

lies is going to catch up with you and that is what is going to happen to them. it's going to catch up with them. >> i think that they know they did wrong. and if it wasn't for brian's death, i don't think this would -- i think it would still be going on. >> i think he wants justice and i think he wants justice for them guns going over the border. it's not right. and i think that our politicians who was involved in it should pay. pay the price. >> brian loved his country. brian was a true marine. he was a true american. when brian was a marine, he used to always say, you never leave a man behind. and i think they are leaving my son behind. that's what i think. and i know that would be a disgrace to him. >> reporter: the terry family says they are at such a loss for information, they are planning to file a wrongful death claim against the federal government to shake the tree and try to

bring some details and closure their way. chris? >> sharyl attkisson in washington for us, thank you. we want to check in with jeff glor at the news desk with other headlines. victory for labor unions in ohio. they rejected a law that would have limited collective bargaining rights for 350,000 workers. the vote was a blow to ohio governor john kasich who supported that measure. russell pearce lost a recall election yesterday. he says he has no regrets. the law gives police wide ranging powers to stop and detain anyone suspected of being an illegal immigrant. a rare super symptom is blasting alaska this morning. it is hitting parts of alaska with 90-mile-an-hour winds

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in thorngs this morning's "healthwatch," warning kids about skin cancer. doctors are saying we should tell children as young as 10 about getting too much sun. >> more than 2 million new cases of skin cancer diagnosed each year in the united states. dr. holly phillips is here with more on this. they are changing the recommendations. as young as 10. why don't you tell them from the very beginning, but what else do they recommend? >> this is coming from the u.s. preventive task force. they are advisers to the government and they reviewed the data. they found you can make the most impact by telling people between the ages of 10 and 24 to avoid the sun and educating them about skin cancer. the reason they don't recommend it for people over 24 isn't because the sun isn't harmful but most of the damage is done when we are kids. >> they have these great new ways to present the information to kids so it really sinks in. what are these new ways, except telling them this can kill you.

>> even though the message is about skin cancer the approach is about beauty. their research showed for kids between 10 and 12, if you tell them that the sun causes wrinkles they are more likely to avoid it than telling them that the sun causes cancer. my grandmother said it's not how you feel, it's how you look. i think she was on to something way ahead of her time. >> in terms of protecting your shelf from the sun, each in the winter we need to do this. >> absolutely. it's the basics. use spf has uva and uvb protection even in the winter. if you don't wear sunscreen or if you do it's a good idea to cover up, wear a hat and long sleeves. avoid the sun during the most powerful times of the day, which is between 10:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. and no tanning beds. california just banned them for people under the age of 18. despite what they say on the

jersey shore, avoid the tanning beds. >> the kids on the jersey shore are going to tanning beds? >> it comes as a shock from a guy who is from there. >> i will side for the pro lobby. we talk about vitamin d deficiencies and how it's not terrible for you to be out in the sun a little bit. >> it doesn't take much sun to get the vitamin d that we need. even just five minutes, say, walking from your car to work, you're absorbing enough just through your face and your hands to get most of the vitamin d you need. also you can get vitamin d from milk, from fish, from orange juice and fortified products. there are other sources and we can't use that an excuse for tanning. >> do you think this will get through to kids this time around? >> i'm hoping so. i think we can make an impact really young just by saying, the sun is something to think about. it's not just about laying out and getting tan and it's not just about beauty but it can

have a long-term effect on your health or how you look overall. >> i would say you could say there is no reason you can't tell your kids under 10 either. my 5-year-old knows he needs sunscreen when he goes outside. >> i think a good idea is the smoking ads you see before and after. just do the before and after with a suntan. >> it just may work. >> for more tips on avoiding the risk of too much sun, go to webmd.com and search sun exposure. announcer: this portion of "the early show" sponsored by by osteobiflex. helps improve joint comfort in just seven days. flex for several years now. i really can't see myself not taking it. osteo bi-flex is a great product. i can go back and do gardening with comfort. [ male announcer ] osteo bi-flex, the glucosamine chondroitin supplement with 5-loxin advanced. shows improvement in joint comfort within 7 days. [ jill strange ] since taking osteo bi-flex, there's nothing that i can't do.

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it may be tough for anyone who is not a part of a military family to understand the hardships involved in overseas duty. you have an idea of it but being in it is a different thing. >> we tend to overlook the sacrifice of many military families especially the

children. correspondent michelle miller spoke with some of our country's military kids to see just how they are doing. >> 1-2-3. >> go! >> reporter: the hardest part of sergeant dirk santaniello's before going to afghanistan next month is making sure his daughter molly is ready too. >> mean my mom will try to stay calm about this because more we got like the more sad we get, the more harder it's going to be for him to get focused while he's away because he'll be thinking about us. >> reporter: with 214,000 american service members currently deployed in afghanistan, iraq, and supporting missions, 194,000 kids have been left behind on the home front. a reality of war that 6-year-old molly is beginning to grasp. how does your mom or dad explain that to you? it would be so hard. >> well, we do it little by little, so my mom explains some

stuff. one day, then she explains the other stuff another day. >> i got to log out, honey. >> reporter: chad sherman says nothing could have completed prepared him. >> you just feel really proud that they are not only helping themselves and their family, they are helping everybody. >> reporter: if you could change it, though, would you? >> i feel it's necessary, but, at the same time, you always feel like why my mom? and it's just kind of somebody has to do it and you feel good that they are the ones doing it. >> reporter: scrapbooking, photography, art. anything that gets a child to reflect on what they are going through and compose themselves, it's like a deposit in their emotional bank. >> my daddy. >> reporter: pam martin is part of operation military kids, a u.s. army program to support children of deployed service members to build skills and help them cope. >> any way we can bring activities that build resilience

in military youth. >> reporter: resilience? >> resilience. >> reporter: why is that necessary? >> because children bend, don't break. >> reporter: katie callahan say she may have blended in with hir kids at school but her grades suffered while her father was in iraq. >> why m am i sitting here in school when i saw a helicopter pilot got shot down and my dad is a helicopter pilot. things you shouldn't worry about in fifth grade. >> reporter: today they are celebrating but two lengthy missions in iraq hasn't been easy for the 9-year-old. what do you think about when you think about your dad when he was away? >> i just think about that i miss him so much, that i want to cry. >> reporter: he's home now and you still -- you still think about that. >> you can't understand until you're in our position and you

can go to as many training sessions as you want. you don't know until you're dad leaves for a year or more. >> reporter: acknowledging that is half the battle for these kids. and it's only one when their parents return home safe and sound. >> it makes me kind of sad, scared, and proud of him at the same time. but i know he's with a lot of people that he trusts and they have been through training and he won't get hurt. >> reporter: michelle miller, cbs news, cranston, rhode island. >> amazing to hear through the mouths of babes. you lose the sight of the fact it's not just two-week or two-month employmedeployment. for adults it's a long time and for kids, an enormous time. >> they know they are not going on a business

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welcome back to "the early show." i'm chris wragge along with erica hill. not bad, huh? >> hey, there. >> good to see you. good to be seen. >> good to be here with you. coming up, a guy to unbanking. we told you hundreds of thousands of bank customers have transferred their money to credit unions and other places but some people have given up on banks completely. they are even letting walmart handle their money. >> is there anything they don't have? tell you more about this and whether it may work for you. carmen is here with that. also ahead, you know, the

people on facebook who have hundreds, maybe thousands of friends. chris wragge! >> nice to be popular. >> nice to be popular. how many of those facebook friends, though, mr. wragge, would you trust with a deep secret? >> only about 2,000 of them. >> you're in the minority. a new study finds the number of close friends we say we have is actually shrinking. friendship is evolving in the digital age and turns out social media may not be helping. >> i don't know. i don't agree with that but -- i'm kidding. anti-wall street protesters around the country are under growing pressure to go home. critics in several cities are saying they are becoming a public nuisance. >> in new york city demonstrators say they are in it with the long haul, yes, even with winter coming. elaine quijano takes a closer look. >> reporter: they started nearly eight weeks ago. hundreds of people with no single leader, no money, and no specific plans for the future.

but since then, the occupy wall street movement says it has raised $500,000 and its voices have not faded away. ♪ they want it all >> reporter: the occupiers as they call themselves have attracted celebrities like david crosby and graham nash. >> speak out! >> reporter: tuesday, they performed an acoustic set at zuccotti park where the movement began. >> sing with us. ♪ don't you ever ask them why ♪ ♪ >> reporter: no microphones. ♪ >> reporter: the movement is also getting the reality television treatment. mtv recently intermediate two wall street occupiers as part of its true life series. >> all day, all week! >> occupy wall street! >> reporter: in reality, the portrait of the protesters is complex and it changes each day. this knitting circle is

preparing for the coming winter. >> i felt sorry for them so i designed these occupy wall street mittens! peaceful way to protest. >> reporter: head knitter marsha spencer floleft a few hours dur the rare october snowstorm. >> if we can make it through a horrendous day like that we can make it through anything. i thought we would be able to stick this out and this proved it. >> i think the movement has a potential for the benefit sort of a once in a life sometime. >> reporter: for jeff smith who has been here since the beginning, the point of the protest is dialogue. >> what i think americans want to talk about are jobs and health care and education and the fact that no one has a living wage in this country any more. and that is really what is resonating. >> reporter: one issue they are talking about? ending the bush era tax cuts extended under president obama. ♪ don't you ever ask them why >> reporter: today, a group of occupy demonstrators will leave

the park for a protest march to washington. ♪ >> reporter: elaine quijano, cbs news, new york. ♪ and know they love you >> thank you, everybody! >> those marchers plan to arrive two weeks from today at the capital. the deadline for the congressional committee to decide to keep the bush era tax cuts. here is jeff glor at the news desk with a final check of today's other headlines for us. good morning. >> thanks for checking in. appreciate it. >> any time, j.g., any time. in our news here, a large protest on the streets of london. this morning thousands of students gathered to protest cuts in education and increase tuition fees. they are marching to the financial district as you can see. 4,000 police officers are there monitoring. a ninth alleged victim in the penn state child sex abuse scandal has contacted police. meanwhile, supporters of coach joe paterno rallied last night. critics say he should have done more when he was known of the

sexual abuse. >> the victims, we ought to say a prayer for them. tough life when people do certain things to you. but, anyway, you've been great. you really are great, all right. >> reporter: the penn state board of directors says it is opening an investigation. the board meets again today. iran's president said this morning his country will not retreat from its nuclear program. ahmadinejad said tehran is on the brink of developing a new nuclear warhead and said it was based on false information from washington. the air force now admits it mishandled the remains of at least two of america's war dead. the pentagon is launching an investigation and david martin has details. >> reporter: air force chief of staff schwartz is talking about caskets coming home from iraq and afghanistan.

a federal investigation has found gross mismanagement at the dover air force base mortuary in delaware, the first stop of the fallen on their final journey home. >> we found a pattern of wrongdoing and the air force has refused to admit culpability. >> reporter: carol learner's office of special counsel investigated whistle-blower complaints and found two cases in which body parts of a soldier and an air force pilot were either lost or misplaced. in another case, an arm bone was sawed off in order to fit a marine killed by a roadside bomb into his dress uniform. investigation covered the years 2008 to 2010. but general schwartz acknowledged he does not know whether there have been other instances. >> i cannot certify with certainty that prior performance met our standard of perfection. >> reporter: the families were not told what it happened to their loved ones until this past

weekend. >> they should have informed the family members the minute they knew that there was a problem. they chose not to. it was just the threat of our report going to the president and to congress that made them tell the family members. >> reporter: learner also says those responsible for the problems were treated with kid gloves. a colonel and two civilian employees were disciplined, but none of them was fired. david martin, cbs news, the pentagon. the first ever nationwide emergency alert system test is set for today. the same message will appear, exciting message will appear at 2:00 p.m. eastern time on tv stations and cable stations. it is a way to let everyone know about a continuation national disaster. it's at 2:00 eastern. time for

in the past month, more than 500,000 people have taken their money out of their traditional bank and put it somewhere else. hopefully not under the mattress. >> now financial contributor carmen ulrich is here with a look at what people are calling unbanking. good morning. >> good morning. >> so we are talking about some of these nonbanking establishments now. well, what are they providing for customers that the banks are not and why are people so attracted to it? here is the biggest one of the bunch. walmart and they have a money center. you can see it online. they cannot save your money and they are not an actual bank but provide banking services such as

everything from paying your bills to krasheds credit cards. all of these things you can do at walmart. the most popular thing is check cashing. they offer competitive prices. a store front takes a percentage of your money. they charge a flat $3 for checks up for $1,000 and $6 for checks up to $6,000. >> fdic insured? >> that is for savings. that is something they can't do. they did -- walmart did file for a banking charter several years ago so they could provide full bank is services but did not get that charter but it's reported they have it in canada and mexico so i have a feeling they will be back because this is big business. >> yesterday, i got my mail and my husband got a thing from target saying, hey, we have a new debit card. i didn't open it up. i put it in the recycling.

other places are heading in this direction. give us an idea and what they are offering. >> what unbanking means is offering services of a bank but not being the bank. other places doing this whenever you're going to have a need, you got customers upset. you have high prices. someone is going to come in and take advantage online. so there is a website called simply.com and they used to be called bank simply.net. it's a bunch of tech guys and engineers who got together and built a store front by partnering with credit unions so they actually have full banking services online but through credit yoounions but they are t tech to get through no fees, no checking fees, no monthly maintenance fee or i don't -- overdraft charges. >> it is tech guys taking your money. >> exactly. >> when we talk about these stories, we say you can go to a credit union. how many people are really switching over? >> quite a bit. the credit union national

association has reported in the past month, 650,000 americans have moved their money into credit unions and in terms of bank transfer day, this past saturday, some local branches had 700 new customers in one day. >> wow! >> it's a lot. you think of your local credit union or community bank they must be lining up in the streets, absolutely. >> if banks haven't taken notice already, when will they start to take notice of this? this is a mass exodus. >> repeal the debit card fees they were testing. any time have you a market where people are just fed up and they need other options, now we have the technology and we have the other services that can come in and folks can come in and take advantage of it and offer us better deals. i will be here to tell you about them. >> we look forward to that and nice for people to actually feel like they do have that voice that it's being heard and it clearly it. >> unbanking and what banks don't want to hear. one thing we need besides money is friendship.

>> you can't buy a good friend. >>book says the average user has 130 friends and some brag they have thousands. >> chris wragge. >> i don't brag. >> what about the nonfacebook? it is reported some of us have two people in our lives we consider to be a true friend. with those numbers, we thought let's ask the rest of the people out there what they have to say. >> the amount of friends i have onbook is roughly 1,113. >> onbook, i have about i think 196 friends. >> i have 400 friends onbook. >> out of those, 2,500 friends that i have, i would consider probably -- oh, probably about a couple of hundred of them close friends. >> i wouldn't, you know, actually share secrets or lend money to any of them. >> if hi to count people i sort of view as best friends, people i could rely on to be there for me when i need them, i'd say about five. >> you're probably right. four or five.

you know, really close friends that i share things with. >> out of the 200 friends i have on facebook, i would say maybe five would be the people i would tell secrets to. >> gives a whole new meaning to the word "friend." joining us is psychology dr. michelle callahan, a contributor to "women's health" magazine. friends does not have the same connotation it used to now it's a verb. you "friend" someone. 48% say they have one close friend and 29% say two or more. are you surprised by that number? d does is seem low to you? >> it doesn't. i think people get the false impression because we have these sosh netwo social networking that people are our friends and we know they are not. who could you depend on to loan you a significant amount of money or who could you live with when you needed help. when you're asking about that kind of friendship that will narrow the number significantly!

>> i solicit my facebook friends for money all the time. i'm kidding! no reaction from anyone at the table! i'm kidding! place things like facebook and social network is that one of the reasons we see the numbers like that people say they have got two or fewer friends or possibly three, this has provided a whole new outlet for people. >> it has and bringing people closer together in terms of being in contact with each other. most of the relationships are just acquaintances. people are not necessarily getting closer to each other and building a more intimate relationship. they have more connections with more people. >> we are just nosier. >> i think love of it is that. >> absolutely. i readily admit that. i never post anything on facebook. i look at what everybody is do. it's terrible. >> they don't e-mail you or they want to see what you're doing and look at your pictures. >> given that aspect to it as well do you think we are starting to close in that intercircle that we have because we realize how precious those true type relationships are? >> i do think social networkizing helping people to

see that and showing how quickly information travels. because you're connected to so many other people you want to make really certain that the people you are talking and sharing information with are keeping it to themselves because one quick post, they can text everyone in their phone and send it out to all of their facebook friends so be selective who you're sharing with because we have seen the pitfalls of having information spread too fast. >> do you it's a decent job of drawing the line who you are close to and your social networking friends and made you apressure your real friends more because you know how valuable they are? >> i hope that is the effect it is having on people. it is important to have close friends and people you can talk to have positive health implications when you have positive social support and you can share information with and give you good advice or let you vent or get your feelings out. that is a helpful thing health wise. >> more to having that of circle of people. is it more of this discussion group idea that is out there that u.s. have, you know, maybe not the close friends but a

small group of people you can bounce ideas off of? >> it's an excellent point and it's valuable for people to have that because it connects back to helping them relief stress and giving them positive information that can help them make positive changes in their lives. >> thanks for being here. the 20 bucks that i lented y yo want it back. >> i love my facebook friends. up next, miami is known for cuban cooking but this chef is headaching up the menu. >> how [ man ] i got this citi thank you card

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miami is mad for the classic italian food. >> early show contributor katie lee went to check it out for us to see what is happening in chef

michael d'andrea's kitchen. >> what are we making? >> staten island clam sauce. >> sounds great. >> only in miami, huh? >> reporter: for michael d'andr d'andrea, italian fook cooking is in his blood. his family owned an italian restaurant in staten island. 2 12 years ago, mi 12 years ago, michael took those recipes and open you wanted a restaurant called macaluso. >> i want to show people how easy it is to make this at home. the first thing we start off with is boiling water. you need a lot of water. what is most important is to add the salt when the water is boiling. if you add the salt before it kind of ruins the pot. i use a sea salt. then we add the pasta. you want to take your linguini and stir it a little bit in the hot water. it helps soften the lyinguinlin >> he uses a good product to

start with, a special linguini. >> when you make this at home, cook the pasta first. this is going to take you about ten minutes. and this other preparation that you can do while this is cooking. keep it in the palm of your hand. you twist it. >> reporter: michael shucks his own clams and collects the juices so nothing goes to waist and he gets the fresh flavor. >> here are the clams. they have been opened, shucked, we saved the juice and took out the sand. you really don't want to have that. >> reporter: to make the sauce michael starts with a really good olive oil. >> you want to just coat the bottom. you don't want to put too much. >> reporter: then to that, he adds fresh garlic. i like some heat. crushed red pepper. >> we do a pinch. >> reporter: and more spices and it infuses the olive oil. >> keep an eye on the garlic because you don't want the garlic to brown. >> reporter: is this a dish that

your family would of had on a sunday night? >> this is a dish that we had always for the holidays. when we had christmas, we had linguini white clam sauce. it was something we ate at least once a week. >> reporter: after the garlic and spices have been cooking in the olive oil, michael adds a dry white wine and it really causes a big flame. woo! >> you're going to get a really, you know,, obviously, a nice flame. >> reporter: wow! >> you don't want to burn your curtains or anything in your kitchen. once you see it is boiling, the clams start to plumpen up. you don't want to overcook the clams. >> reporter: smell that! wow! this looks amazing. >> ladies first. >> reporter: linguini with white clam sauce was amazing and so delicious. there is no elegant way to do this. >> this is why you eat linguini at home! >> reporter: it really had the flavors of the briny clams with

the garlic and hint of spice from the red crushed pepper! it was a song in my mouth! i tell you, miami is lucky to have staten island italian cuisine here. >> it's great to do what you love and make money from it. thank you, babe. >> we will see more of katie's culinary tour this friday. 5000 degrees in miami will serve up some roasted porkchops. now i'm hungry! >> i think what we may to do is maybe bring the show down to south beach. we have done that before and do it again. >> i like it. i like it. >> incorporate the chefs into the program and south beach culinary special. >> in the meantime, i say we order some lunch. it's 9:00 and time for lunch! >> that idea is not going to fly. >> have a great day, everybody. your local news is next.