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referee: personal foul, number 31, hit the to the head, 15-yard penalty. first down. dan: anquan boldin is in the process of making a catch. and chancellor hits him helmet to helmet. greg: and anquan boldin, one tough guy. chancellor took the worst of this. dan: you can't strike the receiver above the neck, the neck or above, and that was a dead-on helmet to helmet contact by chancellor. they can boo, but that's the they can boo, but that's the call. that's a little harder to find. but here's what i know -- td ameritrade doesn't manage mutual funds... or underwrite stocks and bonds. or even publish their own research. so, guidance from td ameritrade isn't about their priorities.
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on sunday afternoons on nfl mobile. call "star," "star," n-f-l to download it now. only from verizon. greg: kam chancellor off the field under his own power. first down from the 21-yard line. flacco, end zone, incomplete. [closed captioning made possible by cbs sports possible by cbs sports division]
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[the captioning on this program is provided as an independent service of the national captioning institute, inc., which is solely responsible for the accurate and complete transcription of program content. cbs, its parent and affiliated companies, and their respective agents and divisions are not responsible for the accuracy or completeness of any transcription or for any errors transcription or for any errors in transcription.] greg: second and 10. flacco, rice. rice inside the 15 to the 11. dan: that might be a first down , awfuly close. -- awfully close. greg: it is a first down. joe cool looking every bit the part. under pressure. first visit to the red zone by either team in this quarter.
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6:00 to play. flacco to the end zone, touchdown. ed dickson, who is having a monster day. dan: well, that's ed dickson's 10th catch of this game and his second touchdown reception. greg: and again, it's just a simple seam pattern by dickson. dan: and he's able to run by malcolm smith and that was a perfect strike from joe flacco. greg: on flacco's 52nd pass attempt. that's a career high. for flacco in one game. this extra point attempt is good. don't go anywhere. 5:52 toly a in the fourth and we've got a penalty marker and we've got a penalty marker and a little shoving.
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dan: that was an absolutely fantastic pass from joe flacco. talk about throwing it into a tight window. greg: scott green going to try to figure out who is at fault here. dan: and pete carroll, penalties have been a problem for his seahawks team all season long. referee: personal foul defense number 69, point is good, penalty will be assessed on the kickoff. dan: just dumb football. greg: brandon mckinney -- greg: brandon mckinney -- clinton mcdonald guilty.
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dan: with baltimore's defense, i'm sure john harbaugh is very comfortable kicking it away, counting on ray lewis and company to get them the ball back. greg: ravens have scored 10 straight points. to move back into this game and with the benefit of the penalty , this kickoff comes from the 50-yard line, not likely to be returnable. and it won't be. dan: we go back and look at that penalty on clinton mcdonald and he's on the -- he's right here. that's michael oher. mcdonald is right there. he's going to run his hand up michael oher's facemask and actually remove his helmet. look right there. michael oher a little unhappy that he had a adversary's hand under his facemask and all the way up in his hair line. nobody likes that feeling.
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greg: so let's see if seattle can rely on marshawn lynch and the ground game to work some clock. penalty marker. a false start by seattle. and the penalties continue. referee: false start offense, number 76, five-yard penalty. first down. greg: that's russell okung. dan: the second most penalized team in the national football league. they had 70 penalties called against them coming into today's game and that was an even dozen today. greg: there's been a power shortage here in the second half for seattle. they have 61 total yards here in the second half. first and 15. jackson to throw. penalty marker's down. and he will throw it to the sideline, incomplete.
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referee: illegal motion, number 81 owe fence -- offense. dan: there's an, are you kidding me look from their head coach. another one of those and even the smile will be gone from pete carroll's face. first and 20. i'm sure that pete considered declining the penalty and just letting it be second and 15. but he's going to accept it and make it first and 20 instead. greg: jackson, sideline pass, and that is complete to the 20-yard line, golden tate with the catch. dan: for a guy who really is injured, you know, this injury to the pectoral of tarvaris
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jackson is something serious. i am so impressed with how he's thrown the ball today. greg: he ought to be this hurt every week. dan: really. i can't recall seeing him throw the ball better. greg: this is lynch. and lynch pulls his way to the 25 as we get another update from j.b. and dan in new york. james: eli manning trying to make amends for his got picks. dan: he makes a great throw off a blitz by the 489ers and look at this catch -- 49ers and look at this catch. 32 yards touchdown, 49ers still up 27-20. james: and the giants are driving. 2:00 left in regulation. back to dan and of course greg. greg: how nice of you, j.b. [laughter] thank you. like i had left the building or something. third and 5.
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jackson with the throw and that's complete across the 40, the 45 and out of bounds. golden tate and a big first down for the seattle seahawks. dan: perfectly timed and thrown. between the corner and the safety. and tarvaris jackson starts to the right, looks to the left and feeds in there beyond carr and in front of ed reed and again that is a perfectly thrown ball by tarvaris jackson. and ed reed's on it but he just can't get there in time. greg: first down now at their own 49. this is lynch. into baltimore territory. 4:30 and the clock is running. dan: that is frustrating to a defense, when you've got somebody backed up to their own goal line, first and 20rks and they move the sticks on you. especially when they're protecting less than a one
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touchdown lead. greg: in years gone by, when we've paid a visit to minnesota, tarvaris jackson was backing up brett favre up there and there was plenty of optimism about tarvaris jackson's future. dan: how frustrated was tarvaris jackson. one minute he's a minnesota starter and the next minute the car's on the way in from the airport with brett favre and now he's the backup. what a yoyo he was on up there for years. greg: second and 6. lynch to the 47. and the clock is moving, coming up on 3:40 to play. dan: john harbaugh right now is really at the point where he's going to hold onto his time-outs and hope that his defense here is going to force a fourth down punt from seattle. greg: this is another big third down play for both sides. dan: a diversion here is a real
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-- greg: jackson going to throw for it. lynch, first down yardage inside the 40. and we have a raven down. what a move. what a move by marshawn lynch on jarret johnson. high percentage throw but right here -- johnson. dan: johnson, number 95, both of them end up on the ground. look at that stutter step and lateral move by marshawn lynch. greg: and ed reed, hit by nat nat. but he's limping -- haloti ngata.
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lynch and now john harbaugh's got to take a time-out. he does to stop the clock with 2:15. baltimore's first time-out here in the second half. dan: it has been a heck of a day around the national football league. greg: not of least of which was ben roethlisberger. i would not the count -- i would not count the pittsburgh steelers out of anything. dan: i like baltimore having the tie-breaking position. the falcons went for a very controversial fourth down in their own territory. they didn't get it. that allowed new orleans to kick the field goal to win it in o.t. the dallas cowboys beat the pants off the buffalo bills. the wheels are coming off their snowmobile a little bit. greg: and tim tebow, two completed passes. and denver won the game, did they not? 69 yards on a touchdown, nine carries for 43 and a touchdown.
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when's the last time an nfl game was won with a quarterback with two completions? on second and 8. lynch, still on his feet and a first down. [whistle] pete carroll -- dan: and now the ravens say they have the football. i bet they do. the whistle hadn't blown, ed was still moving forward. greg: scott green says it's the 2:00 warning and saying so he certainly is giving the impression that it's still seattle's football. dan: because no official has said otherwise. greg: can seattle hold on? game day... any day...
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the middle of that see sea of humanity. the scrum keeps moving forward and when he goes down, of course, everyone from the ravens is digging for that football. but the officiating crew ruled that he had the necessary yardage for a first down. john harbaugh is holding the red flag. greg: and he's going to toss it. dan: because it happened outside the 2:00 warning. greg: it's not automatic. dan: he can go ahead and challenge this. i don't see how this could -- they would have to see, the officiating crew would have to see that somebody from baltimore recovered this fumble and that's not going to happen. if it was a fumble even. greg: scott green -- they're telling him not to waste his challenge. dan: the officiating crew in this situation has to see the recovery by the opponent.
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greg: here's scott green. referee: baltimore is challenging the ruling of the spot of the ball for a first down. dan: baltimore is going to challenge the spot which of course -- this first down comes awfully close to ceiling the deal for the seahawks. -- sealing deal for the seahawks. greg: contact was made at about the 32. when does the whistle blow? dan: you can see marshawn lynch right there, is not quite to the 20 -- that's so tight. yeah, there's no question that marshawn lynch is down and in possession of the football. greg: from that first view it looks like he might have been short half a yard. dan: yeah. john harbaugh is hoping that
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somehow he can keep those chains from being moved. greg: let's watch the play and listen for the whistle. given to where lynch illinois had to go to get the first down, i think he did so easily. i was beginning to wonder, where's the whistle? dan: yeah. well, you know, he's done that a couple of times this game. yards after contact, they've been something that marshawn lynch has done on several instances today. greg: lynch is on the board for 30 carries, a career high. and 97 yards rushing. he's in search of his first ever back to back 100-yard rushing game. dan: i look at where the ball is spotted on the field.
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that was necessary to move the sticks. i don't think scott green saw anything that's going to move that football back. referee: after reviewing the play, the ruling on the field stands. baltimore's charged with a second time-out. greg: that costs baltimore a time-out and they have one remaining. dan: well, let's just praise marshawn lynch and his offensive line with that surge. because once he was slowed by the ravens defense he went about another four yards. another three to four yards. greg: lynch. lynch to the 21. once again j.b. and dan in new york. james: the giants driving four score. dan: eli manning drops back and justin smith jumps up, tips the ball. the giants turn it over on
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downs. 49ers win 27-20. james: one harbaugh is happy. let's take you back and greg, of course, we know you didn't leave the building. we love your quick reer to thes. -- retorts. greg: what? thank you guys. dan: i'll say this. john harbaugh all week long before this game was talking about marshawn lynch and what a good back he was and i think a lot of people, i've read some articles where they're going, it sounds like holts and heys talking up the opposition. john was right. marshawn lynch has turned in some performance here this afternoon. greg: 31 carry, 104 yards. dan: getting over 100 yards against this defense, that's some accomplishment. greg: look at him. this guy won't go down. that's a first down.
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and the clock continues to move. while we have a moment, we'll remind you, tonight on cbs, begins with a "60 minutes" investigation about congressional conflicts of interest. followed by a new "amazing race," "the good wife" and csi miami d tonight, only cbs. dan: you're right, it was a first down and the only positive thing to come out of this game for the ravens is that it's a loss to an n.f.c. team. greg: and tarvaris jackson taking a knee. and we come up on 1:00 remaining. dan: when you get into some tie-breaking scenarios, conference losses come into play and this won't be one of them. greg: we talked at the very top about the up and down nature of this baltimore ravens team at tiles. this is a down that they tried to avoid. they were very well aware of it coming into here.
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dan: it's the ravens' second loss this season to a team that at the time had a losing record. jacksonville was 1-5 and seattle was 2-6. and an opportunity lost for baltimore. greg: tarvaris jackson takes the knee and the seattle seahawks are going to send the baltimore ravens home with a loss. dan: pete carroll's team, i have to give them props. these kids, there's an upside here, how soon they get there i don't know. but there's some young talent on this team. greg: a young team on the rise. they knock off the baltimore ravens. and marshawn lynch was just outstanding. our final score, the seahawks 22, the ravens 17. for dan dierdorf and the rest of our cbs sports crew, greg gumbel. so long from seattle. tonight on cbs, "60 minutes," followed by "the amazing race," the good wife" and "csi:
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that no one else has in an environment of privilege where rules that govern the rest of the country don't always apply to them. most former congressmen and senators manage to leave washington, if they ever leave washington, with more money in their pockets than they had when they arrived. and as you are about to see, the biggest challenge is often avoiding temptation. >> peter schweizer: this is a venture opportunity. this is an opportunity to leverage your position in public service, and use that position to enrich yourself, your friends, and your family. >> kroft: peter schweizer is a fellow at the hoover institution, a conservative think tank at stanford university. a year ago, he began working on a book about soft corruption in washington with a team of eight student researchers, who reviewed financial disclosure records. the results became a jumping off point for our own story, and we have independently verified the material we've used. schweizer says he wanted to know why some congressmen and
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senators managed to accumulate significant wealth beyond their salaries, and proved particularly adept at buying and selling stocks. >> schweizer: there are all sorts of forms of honest grafts that congressmen engage in that allow them to become very, very wealthy. so it's not illegal, but i think it's highly unethical, i think it's highly offensive and wrong. >> kroft: what do you mean, "honest graft"? >> schweizer: for example, insider trading on the stock market. if you are a member of congress, those laws are deemed not to apply. >> kroft: so congressman get a pass on insider trading? >> schweizer: they do. the fact is, if you sit on the healthcare committee and you know that medicare, for example, is... is considering not reimbursing for a certain drug, that's market-moving information. and if you can trade stock on... off of that information, and do so legally, that's a great profit-making opportunity. and that sort of behavior goes on. >> kroft: why does congress get a pass on this? >> schweizer: it's really the way the rules have been defined. and the people who make the rules are the political class in washington.
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and they've conveniently written them in such a way that they don't apply to themselves. >> kroft: the buying and selling of stock by corporate insiders who have access to non public information that could affect the stock price can be a criminal offense. just ask hedge fund manager raj rajaratnam, who recently got 11 years in prison for doing it. but congressional lawmakers have no corporate responsibilities and have long been considered exempt from insider trading laws, even though they have daily access to non-public information and plenty of opportunities to trade on it. >> schweizer: we know that, during the healthcare debate, people were trading healthcare stocks. we know that, during the financial crisis of 2008, they were getting out of the market before the rest of america really knew what was going on. >> kroft: in mid-september 2008, with the dow jones industrial average still above 10,000, treasury secretary hank paulson and federal reserve chairman ben bernanke were holding closed door briefings with congressional leaders, and
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privately warning them that a global financial meltdown could occur within a few days. one of those attending was alabama representative spencer bachus, then the ranking republican member on the house financial services committee, and now its chairman. >> schweizer: these meetings were so sensitive that they would actually confiscate cell phones and blackberries going into those meetings. what we know is that those meetings were held one day and, literally, the next day, congressman bachus would engage in buying stock options based on apocalyptic briefings he had the day before from the fed chairman and treasury secretary. i mean, talk about a stock tip. >> kroft: while congressman bachus was publicly trying to keep the economy from cratering, he was privately betting that it would, buying option funds that would go up in value if the market went down. he would make a variety of trades, and profited at a time when most americans were losing their shirts. congressman bachus declined to talk to us, so we went to his
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office and ran into his press secretary, tim johnson. look, we're not alleging that congressman bachus has violated any laws. all... the only thing we're interested in talking to him about is his trades. >> tim johnson: okay, that's a fair enough request. >> kroft: what we got was a statement from congressman bachus' office that he never trades on non-public information or financial services stock. however, his financial disclosure forms seem to indicate otherwise. bachus made money trading general electric stock during the crisis, and a third of g.e.'s business is in financial services. during the healthcare debate of 2009, members of congress were trading healthcare stocks, including house minority leader john boehner, who led the opposition against the so-called "public option," government funded insurance that would compete with private companies. just days before the provision was finally killed off, boehner bought health insurance stocks, all of which went up. now speaker of the house, congressman boehner also
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declined to be interviewed, so we tracked him down at his weekly press conference. speaker boehner. you made a number of trades going back to the healthcare debate. you bought some insurance stock. did you make those trades based on non-public information? >> john boehner: i have not made any decisions on day-to-day trading activities in my account, and haven't for years. i don't... i do not do it, haven't done it and wouldn't do it. >> kroft: later, boehner's spokesman told us that the healthcare trades were made by the speaker's financial advisor, who he only consults with about once a year. >> schweizer: we need to find out whether they're part of a blind trust or not. >> kroft: peter schweizer thinks the timing is suspicious, and believes congressional leaders should have their stock funds in blind trusts. >> schweizer: whether it's $15,000 or $150,000, the principle, in my mind, is that it's simply wrong and it shouldn't take place. >> kroft: but there is a long history of self-dealing in washington, and it doesn't
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always involve stock trades. congressmen and senators also seem to have a special knack for land and real estate deals. when illinois congressman dennis hastert became speaker of the house in 1999, he was worth a few hundred thousand dollars. he left the job eight years later a multi-millionaire. >> jan strasma: the road that hastert wants to build will go through these farm fields right here. >> kroft: in 2005, speaker hastert got a $207 million federal earmark to build the prairie parkway through these cornfields near his home. what jan strasma and his neighbors didn't know was that hastert had also bought some land adjacent to where the highway is supposed to go. >> strasma: and five months after this earmark went through, he sold that land and made a bundle of money. >> kroft: how much? >> strasma: $2 million. >> kroft: what do you think of it? >> strasma: it stinks. >> kroft: we stopped by the former speaker's farm to ask him about the land deal, but he was off in washington where he now works as a lobbyist. his office told us that property
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values in the area began to appreciate even before the earmark, and that the hastert land was several miles from the nearest exit. but the same good fortune befell former new hampshire senator judd gregg, who helped steer nearly $70 million in government funds towards redeveloping this defunct air force base, which he and his brother both had a commercial interest in. gregg has said that he violated no congressional rules. it's but one more example of good things happening to powerful members of congress. another is the access to initial public stock offerings, the opportunity to buy a new stock at insider prices just as it goes on the market. they can be incredibly lucrative and hard to get. >> schweizer: if you were a senator, steve, and i gave you $10,000 cash, one or both of us is probably going to go to jail. but if i'm a corporate executive and you're a senator, and i give you i.p.o. shares in stock, and over the course of one day, that stock nets you $100,000, that's
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completely legal. >> kroft: and former house speaker nancy pelosi and her husband have participated in at least eight i.p.o.s. one of those came in 2008, from visa, just as a troublesome piece of legislation that would have hurt credit card companies began making its way through the house. undisturbed by a potential conflict of interest, the pelosis purchased 5,000 shares of visa at the initial price of $44. two days later, it was trading at $64. the credit card legislation never made it to the floor of the house. congresswoman pelosi also declined our request for an interview, but agreed to call on us if we attended her news conference. madam leader, i wanted to ask you why you and your husband, back in march of 2008, accepted and participated in a very large i.p.o. deal from visa at a time there was major legislation affecting the credit card companies making its way through the... through the house.
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>> nancy pelosi: but... >> kroft: and did you consider that to be a conflict of interest? >> pelosi: the... i... i don't know what your point is of your question. is there some point that you want to make with that? >> kroft: well, i... i guess what i'm asking is, do you think it's all right for a speaker to accept a very preferential favorable stock deal? >> pelosi: well, we didn't. >> kroft: you participated in the i.p.o., and at the time, you were speaker of the house. you don't think it was a conflict of interest or had the appearance... >> pelosi: no, it was not. >> kroft: ...of a conflict of interest? >> pelosi: it doesn't... it only has appearance if you decide that you're going to have... elaborate on a false premise. but it... it's not true and that's that. >> kroft: i don't understand what part's not true. >> pelosi: yes, sir... that... that i would act upon an investment. >> kroft: congresswoman pelosi pointed out that the tough credit card legislation eventually passed, but it was two years later and was initiated in the senate. >> pelosi: i will hold my record in terms of fighting the credit card companies as speaker of the house or as a member of congress
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up against anyone's. >> kroft: corporate executives, members of the executive branch, and all federal judges are subject to strict conflict of interest rules. but not the people who write the laws. >> schweizer: if you are a member of congress and you sit on the defense committee, you are free to trade defense stock as much as you want to. if you're on the senate banking committee, you can trade bank stock as much as you want, and that regularly goes on in... in all these committees. >> brian baird: there should only be one thing in your mind when you're drafting legislation-- is this good for the united states of america? that's it. if you're starting to say to yourself, "how's this going to affect my investments?" you've got... you've got a mixed agenda and a mixed purpose for being there. >> kroft: brian baird is a former congressman from washington state who served six terms in the house before retiring last year. he spent half of those 12 years trying to get his colleagues to prohibit insider trading in congress and establish some
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rules governing conflicts of interest. >> baird: one line in a bill in congress can be worth millions and millions of dollars. there was one night, we had a late, late night caucus, and you could kind of tell how a vote was going to go the next day. i literally walked home and i thought, "man, if you... if you went online and made some significant trades, you could make a lot of money on this." you... you could just see it. you could see the potential here. >> kroft: so in 2004, baird and congresswoman louise slaughter introduced the stock act, which would make it illegal for members of congress to trade stocks on non-public information, and require them to report their stock trades every 90 days instead of once a year. how far did you get with this? >> baird: we didn't get anywhere. just flat died. went nowhere. >> kroft: how many co-sponsors did you get? >> baird: i think we got six. >> kroft: six doesn't sound like a very big amount. >> baird: it's not, steve. you... you could have national cherry pie week and get 100 cosponsors. >> kroft: when baird finally managed to get a congressional hearing on the stock act, almost
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no one showed up. it's reintroduced every session, but is buried so deep in the capitol, we had trouble finding congressmen who had ever heard of it. have you ever heard of the stock act? >> the what? >> kroft: the stock act. do you know anything about it? >> no. >> kroft: congressman. congressman. >> i haven't heard about that one yet. >> kroft: have you ever heard of something called the stock act? >> no. >> i've heard about, but not... i can't say it's an issue i've spent a lot of time on. >> i would have no problem with that. >> kroft: okay. >> but then again, i am big fan of, you know, instant disclosure on almost everything. >> kroft: they're looking for co-sponsors. >> and yet, i've never heard of it. >> baird: when you have a bill like this that makes so much sense and you can't get the co- sponsorships, you can't get the leadership to move, it gets tremendously frustrating. set aside that it's the right thing to do-- it's good politics. people want their congress to function well. ( laughs ) it still baffles me.
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>> kroft: but what baffles baird even more is that the situation has gotten worse. in the past few years, a whole new, totally unregulated $100 million industry has grown up in washington called political intelligence. it employs former congressmen and former staffers to scour the halls of the capitol, gathering valuable non-public information, then selling it to hedge funds and traders on wall street who can trade on it. >> baird: now, if you're a political intel guy, and you get that information long before it's public, long before somebody wakes up the next morning and reads or watches the television or whatever, you've got it, and you can make real... real-time trades before anybody else. >> kroft: baird says its taken what would be a criminal enterprise anyplace else in the country and turned it into a profitable business model. >> baird: the town is all about people saying, "what do you know that i don't know?" this is the currency of washington, d.c., and it's that kind of informational currency that translates into real currency.
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maybe it's over drinks, maybe somebody picks up a phone and says, you know, "just to let you know, it's in the bill." trades happen. can't trace them. if you can trace them, it's not illegal. it's a pretty great system. you feel like an idiot to not take advantage of it. >> go to 60minutesovertime.com to see more of steve kroft's attempts to find answers in washington. sponsored by lipitor. i'd race down that hill without a helmet. i took some steep risks in my teens. i'd never ride without one now. and since my doctor prescribed lipitor, i won't go without it for my high cholesterol and my risk of heart attack. why kid myself? diet and exercise weren't lowering my cholesterol enough. now i'm eating healthier, exercising more, taking lipitor. numbers don't lie. my cholesterol's stayed down. lipitor is fda approved to reduce the risk of heart attack and stroke in patients who have heart disease or risk factors for heart disease.
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>> martin: the hottest thing in police work these days is the taser, a device which sends painful jolts of electricity into the human body, throwing muscles into uncontrollable spasms. police see it as a whole new way of controlling people without injuring either themselves or the suspect. frequently, the mere sight of a taser will convince a criminal to give up without a fight. it's so effective, police are sometimes too quick to use it, subjecting people to excruciating pain for no good reason. some have even died after being hit by a taser. whatever you think of taser after watching this story, you better get used to it. taser is now used by more than 16,000 law enforcement agencies in the u.s. it all started when two brothers, rick and tom smith, founded taser international and set out to corner the stun gun market. >> tom smith: we believe in what we're doing. we have changed the world. very few people can say that.
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>> martin: by tom smith's count, more than 500,000 law enforcement officers in the united states now carry tasers. he and his brother rick have taken what began as a backyard experiment and built it into a policeman's weapon of choice, a device which uses electricity to subdue unruly suspects without having to resort to the blunt force of a billy club or the deadly force of a firearm. >> rick smith: the idea of using electricity to incapacitate, at its core, is, frankly, a beautiful and simplistic idea. that, rather than causing death or injury to someone, if we can just temporarily take away control of their body and get them under control, it's about as non-violent as you could get. >> martin: the taser uses compressed gas to fire two small darts attached to copper wires. when they pierce the skin, the electric current flows through the body, seizing up the muscles, and sending the suspect crashing to the ground screaming in pain. >> geoffrey alpert: this is a whole new device. it's a whole new way to control
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people. >> martin: geoffrey alpert has written what, to date, is the definitive study of taser use for the national institute of justice. >> alpert: when used properly, a taser is a very effective tool in law enforcement. >> martin: well, then i guess the question is, do police use a taser properly? >> alpert: well, that's the million dollar question. >> martin: alpert's study found instances of what he calls "lazy cop syndrome," using the taser instead of proper police procedures. so, taser is now the go-to weapon? >> alpert: yes, sir, we see, very often, that taser is the... is what officers turn to very quickly now in an encounter. >> martin: are they using them too quickly? >> alpert: some are. some are using them way too fast. >> martin: one of the police departments alpert studied was austin, texas, where a police officer was suspended for three days after this traffic stop. >> i have no idea why you are asking... >> get out of the vehicle. take off your seat belt off and step out of the vehicle. >> martin: the driver had going five miles over the speed limit.
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>> i have no idea why you're... >> get to the back of the vehicle and put your hands on the door! >> hey! >> get to the back of the vehicle! ( screaming ) >> martin: las vegas was one of the first big city police departments to issue tasers to cops on the beat. marcus martin, the department's chief taser instructor, says that, in the first year, they were used more than twice as often as they are now. >> marcus martin: when you consider, in 2004, we had 573 uses. we're down to 247 at the end of 2010. >> david martin: does that say officers were too quick to reach for the taser at first? >> marcus martin: i can only be frank with you. i think there might have been those instances. but that's the same with any tool that comes along. again, we have to go back and we have to train that out of those officers. >> david martin: with all its high-roller entertainment and hard-party glitz, las vegas may be the only city in america where police end up in a standoff with a suicidal elvis impersonator.
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and casualties are down on both sides. the number of suspects who had to be taken to the hospital after they were arrested has gone down every year since taser was brought in, and so has the number of policemen injured. >> marcus martin: right now, taser's... appears to be the best tool out there. and it's changed the face of police work forever. >> david martin: that's a bold statement. >> marcus martin: that is a bold statement. >> david martin: why do you make a statement like that? >> marcus martin: there's a lot of misinformation out there, but the real information eventually does come out. the truth does come out that this person is alive today and that person is alive today, or this police officer is not harmed today because of this less-than-lethal device. >> david martin: the first taser was invented by space scientist jack cover. he designed it to look like a flashlight, fired it using gunpowder, and named it for one of his science fiction heroes, the thomas a. swift electric rifle-- taser. the smith brothers struck a deal with cover, and then they re-
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engineered his weapon. they drew straws and went out in the backyard to take the first hits from their new improved taser-- first tom, then rick-- standing in a pool of water. today, they run a worldwide business from their over-the-top headquarters in scottsdale, arizona, which the smith brothers designed from the ground up as a corporate statement. >> tom smith: this is an iris scanner. >> identification is completed. >> tom smith: allows access to the building without the need for keys. >> david martin: they don't have those at the pentagon, you know. >> tom smith: i did not know that. >> david martin: it is part fortress, part tribute to "star trek". >> tom smith: we, certainly, again, wanted that projection of high-tech, that we're on a cutting edge. we're making things that are, you know, right out of hollywood. we're the wired version of a "star trek" phaser. >> david martin: the smith brothers may not have invented the taser, but they certainly turned it into the household name it is today. they took a device that had been fired by gunpowder and converted it to compressed gas. that freed them from all the regulations which govern the use of firearms, and turned taser
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into a $100 million a year company. in the eyes of federal regulators, getting rid of the gunpowder converted taser from a firearm to a run-of-the-mill consumer product, and that allowed the smith brothers to corner the market. >> alpert: it moved it from a regulated weapon to an unregulated tool that allowed not only police officers but civilians to use them without any kind of mandated training or with any kind of mandated rules. >> david martin: the production line turns out 100,000 tasers a year with a combination of one- of-a-kind technology and old- fashioned manual assembly, all the way down to attaching the darts to their wires. how much of a jolt does it put out? it's putting out about 2.1 milli-amps. it's a very, very low current. the battery that runs this is basically the same battery that would run a digital camera. >> david martin: so, while the voltage is high, the amount of electricity or current the taser puts out is lo
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