captioning funded by cbs it's thursday, january 12, 2012. welcome to "cbs this morning" in studio 57 at the cbs broadcast center. i'm charlie rose with a small cold. after a governor pardons criminals and walks out of office. jeff glor has the late night developments. i'm gayle king. when i see you at 8:00, an exclusive of the east wing of the white house by first lady michelle obama. andy cohen stops by. the republican candidates get tough in south carolina and someone who knows all about that, senator john mccain, is the government shutting down? the imported orange juice with

safety concerns. we begin with a look at today's eye-opener. your world in 90 seconds. you just don't do this kind of thing. you got to read the law before you do something like that. >> a mississippi judge steps in after a governor grants 200 pardons. >> including more than two dozen convicted of murder, manslaughter or homicide. haley barbour gave no reason. >> he ran the state and the governor's office like boss hogg. >> me and the family in the eye and say hey, i'm going to let this guy go. that's a coward's way out if you ask me. >> the military investigates disturbing video posted online. >> that appears to show marines urinating on the corpses of taliban fighters umt. >> busted in on me. >> tornado tears through two north carolina counties. >> heard thunder and lightning and felt like the side of the house was popping off. >> what could be the biggest storm pounds the midwest. zooifrjt i'm a shameless

political salesman. i have a request for you. i want your vote. >> the gop storms south carolina. >> what should people in the direct path of the campaign do? >> they should head for the high moral ground. hug your loved ones close. >> i have to beat romney on the 21st. >> this is going to be armageddon. they will come in everything they've got. >> recognize it's going to be a challenge. >> can you tell us what happened? >> kicking americans off airlines. >> that's great. i want you to enjoy that. >> all that matters. >> are we just a bunch of numb skulls. >> i didn't do anything. >> on "cbs this morning." ron paul was the big winner of the people's choice awards. >> he won for best geezer. first thing this morning, a controversial series of pardons put on hold in mississippi late

last night. a judge blocked the release of 21 inmates set free by haley barbour. >> on tuesday, one of his last acts as governor, barbour ordered the release of more than 200 prisoners, including some convicted killers. special correspondent jeff glor is following this case for us. jeff, good morning. >> erica, good morning. a judge's order blocks some of the releases, but it's not clear that can stick. already four convicted murderers have been freed. what is clear here, the uproar over this 11th hour act. >> he certainly put the state in jeopardy. >> it was an irate jim hood, mississippi's attorney general who asked a circuit judge to step in, arguing the governor's pardons violated the state constitution by not giving proper notice. >> hopefully it will be a lesson to future governors. you don't do this kind of thing. you got to read the law before you do something like that. >> to look me and the family

in the eye and say hey. i'm going to let this guy go. there wasn't any of that. that's the coward's way out if you ask me. >> also clear ernest scott carr, the brother the brett favre. ernest was convicted of manslaughter in 1997 after he drove drunk into the path of an on coming train and killed his best friend. state records show more than two dozen of the inmates pardoned were convicted of murder, manslaughter or homicide. four of them worked in the governor's mansion. for barbour. >> god bless you. great success. >> when he left office, barbour gave no explanation. a move more surprising given the tough stance on crime he often took. in the previous eight years in office, he pardoned only five people. nine executed.

last night, he finally released a statement. defending his actions by saying approximately 90% of these individuals were no longer in custody and a majority of them had been out for years. that was little comfort to relatives. >> if i live to be 89 years old and there's nothing done about it, i'm going to continue to fight. >> here's a question jeff? why did haley barbour do this? he is a very savvy political operative. >> he absolutely is. we've both spoken to him. he's a savvy, consummate politician. prolific fundraiser. i don't think he anticipated this reaction. he said he did this because he wanted these folks to have a chance to get a job, to vote, to hunt. but unlikely he anticipated this reaction. >> so this now hinges on basely the mississippi constitution and whether or not they can prove it's enough notice was given. >> the attorney general says notice needs to be 30 days in

public papers, local papers where the folks live. he says in some cases it may not have been done. it's going to be challenging. this court case. he said it would be extremely difficult to re-arrest anyone who is already freed. >> thanks, jeff. this morning, u.s. officials are scrambling to prevent another abu ghraib scandal because of a video showing marines desecrating bodies. david martin is at the pentagon this morning. david, good morning. >> good morning. another video has gone viral. this could do real damage both to the image of the marine corps and to the core in afghanistan. >> the 40-second video is too disturbing to air. this freeze frame shows four marines urinating or pretending to urinate on three bodies. presumably taliban fighters. if it turns out to be authentic, those involved could be court-martialed for violating mill their i rules that

specifically forbid filming human cash umts. soldiers at abu ghraib prison posed next to people in degrading positions. others were sentenced to military prison. the military is investigating the current individual dwroe. it's unlikely an investigation will contain the damage it's likely to cause. >> overnight the command put out a statement saying the marines in the pictures are apparently no longer in afghanistan meaning the video was shot some time ago. whether that has any difference on the reaction of the public remains to be seen. >> what will the pentagon do to make sure this doesn't happen again. >> of course, they remember abu ghraib better than anyone. they also remember the furor that was set off by the mere report that a guard at

guantanamo urinated on the koran. they're extremely about what the reaction might be. the hope is that since the bodies being desecrated here are taliban and the taliban are not popular in afghanistan, this will not be seen as an insult to the muslim culture. but, again, that's going to be for muslims to decide, not the pentagon. >> dave martin from the pentagon. >> the presidential race is centered on south carolina. mitt romney is looking for a third win in a row in the primary on saturday. the candidates trying to stop him began a fresh round of attacks on his record. jan crawford is in greer, south carolina this morning. jan, good morning. >> good morning, erica. new hampshire may as well be a world away. the weather is warm here much the tea is cold and the politics can get down right dirty. >> the greatest nation on earth.

>> mitt romney got a warm welcome in south carolina. >> thank you. >> but he arrived with a target on his back. >> no one is going to be happy if things are said that are untrue. but i know that's sometimes part of the underbelly of politic. >> nowhere is that more true than in south carolina. >> south carolina in the past might have had a little bit more bare knuckled tradition. >> a dirty campaign in recent memory, the race in 2000 between george bush and john mccain. >> let me finish, please. please. >> let me finish. >> that race was notorious with anonymous false accusations that mccain fathered a child out of wedlock. mccain lost the primary and blamed the defeat on the smears. >> a clear choice will be offered. a choice between my optimistic and welcoming conner servatism

the negative -- >> he recently joined mitt romney. >> in south carolina, there's a lot of debate of the issues. very few of the candidates hold back in terms of making contrast with their opponent. >> when they're making contrasts, it seems even the language is more colorful. texas governor rick perry has been calling romney a as a result you are. the bird that eats road kill for his work at bain capital. >> mitt romney and bain capital were involved with what i call vulture capitalism. >> newt gingrich is hitting romney for his business background and a super p.a.c. supporting him will blanket the airwaves with negative ads. there's backlash. many republicans worry the attacks are playing into president obama's hand. a south carolina voter wednesday told gingrich to stop the attacks on romney's business experience. >> i want to beg you to redirect and go after his obvious

disengine yunness about conservatism. >> there's another reason why people care so much about south carolina. it knows how to pick republican presidents. in modern political history, every candidate who has won in this state has gone on to win the republican nomination. >> thank you, jan. last week john mccain endorsed mitt romney and they have been campaigning together in south carolina. the arizona senator is with us now. senator, good morning. i apologize for my voice. >> that's quite all right. i know you've had a radical change in lifestyle. >> and cold. probably on too many planes. you know what south carolina can do. do you believe that they can derail the campaign and the lead that mitt romney has? >> i do not. it's already historic what mitt has accomplished by winning iowa and new hampshire. look, these campaigns are tough.

everything is tough. it should be tough. politics is not bean bag. we talk about becoming the leader of the free world. but these attacks on bain capital is really kind of against everything we believe in. we believe in job creation. the record of bain capital is to take company that would otherwise fail and restore them to some kind of viability. sometimes that doesn't work. but you know, when it always works is a thing called communism where you keep everybody -- we grieve the loss of a single job. but when you go to a company -- the only reason they went to the companies is because they were failing. it wasn't as if they went to companies that were doing well. but as you know, the argument being made is that when the companies lost and the employees lost the people who engaged in what bain capital was engaged in

did not lose. they've lost a big payoff but they came out ahead because of fees and other things. >> they came out sometimes perhaps more than they should have in a fair and equal world. but the fact is that they created -- look at staples, look at all of these different companies. they started with $5 million in staples and now look at it. now, would you rather do that or would you rather have a government pick a winner like solyndra for half a billion dollars and have it fail? this is a fundamental difference in philosophy. the reason why some of us are upset about these attacks and are not upset about others is because that's really the fundamentals of what we republicans believe in. we cannot have a system where everybody survives. that's adam smith. >> super pacs are a big part of the campaign this year. are they bad? >> they're terrible. the citizens united. you can put the responsibility at the doorstep of the supreme

court. incredible naiveti. sandra day o'connor and rehnquist are gone. it was outrageous. i predict to you there will be huge scandals associated with this huge noflood of money. it's diminished the roles of political parties in america. you can blame the supreme court for it. i tell you, the ignorance of the realities of politics in america displayed by on a 5-4 decision was, i think, one of the worst decisions that i've ever seen. >> if you think romney wins in south carolina, it's over? >> absolutely. pabsolutely. in fact, opponents have probably admitted basically that's the case and that's why you're seeing such fer os at this. i think mitt has done a very good job in campaigning. in building an organization and

frankly, i think we've got a real shot in november. >> senator, there's a lot of talk about conservatives not being able to find one candidate. mitt romney not being their candidate. if he does pull this off in south carolina and then as you say the race is oaf, how do you bring those people in? >> neal look at the option. in iowa he got some strong conservatives and new hampshire and south carolina he's going to i think do well with the conservatives. but there thereby a unifying of the party. >> no matter what? >> no matter what. >> you have been a great friend of military. you've served your country valiantly. when you look at the video coming out of afghanistan, what does john mccain say? >> it saddens me. the united states marine corps i would argue is one of the finest institutions in the history of the nation. here's a handful of undisciplined young people of the 100 some thousand marines we

have. it makes me so sad. there should be a complete investigation and those people should be punished. but it does great damage. it's so saddening to me. >> thank you for coming. i hope we'll see you at this table a lot. >> thanks for having me. congratulations on your new gig. >> thank you. violent protests and counter protests have been going on for ten months. on wednesday, foreign reporters got caught in the crossfire. elizabeth palmer, who has been given rare access inside syria is in damascus for us. good morning. >> good morning. the syrian government under huge international pressure. finally let a handful of foreign reporters into the country. unfortunately, that very welcome initiative began with a tragedy. not shaky cell phone video this time. but recorded by foreign news cameras. a mortar attack on civilians.

it killed one french journalist and eight syrian residents of the neighborhood. just 20 minutes earlier, we had been in the same place on our tour organized by the syrian government of homes in the epicenter of the uprising. there are attacks every day the people told me. in a hospital a few steps away lay the proof. ordinary people brought down by extraordinary violence. who is responsible? our minders wouldn't let us out of their sight to investigate. but the truth is complicated. the uprising began ten months ago as massive peaceful protests for democracy. but they've degenerated into something that looks very much like civil war. activists have filmed the syrian army shooting down opposition protesters but some opposition groups have weapons and they're attacking them. in the military hospital, 25 wounded soldiers on average arrive every day. in the capital of damascus

yesterday, a defiant syrian president, bashar al assad greeted adoring supporters. he blamed all the violence on a foreign plot. his solution? what he calls -- >> it's not exactly clear ha that means. we do know that some areas of the country already under the control of armed opposition groups, this is a divided country already full of guns, fear and anger. >> elizabeth palmer in damascus this morning. thank you. we want to show you the first two serious snowstorms of the new year. it is snowing right now in fairview heights, illinois. you can see it there in the headline. that's near st. louis. much of the upper midwest expects several inches of snow. it is also snowing in parts of the northeast. this is coming to us from massachusetts. that's west of boston. chief forecaster from wcbs tv is

with us. >> let me show you storm number one. stretching from wisconsin down to right around st. louis. portions of wisconsin are going to be picking up 6 to 9 inches of snow out of this system. but that's storm number two that erica was talking about. there's a different picture on the screen. greens and yellows. the areas south of here. that's where you find the snow here. when you find the system together, this is interesting. you have two cold front. you would think, one two, it's going to give you a double whammy. it's not going to happen that way. it will raise temperatures in new york city

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raising fees and dropping service. but that only has an economic impact on passengers. >> now, a combinations of cost cutting and bad weather is causing serious inconvenience and more importantly safety concerns for people who fly across the atlantic. transportation correspondent mark strasman reports. >> united continental sold the flights as international nonstops. but repeatedly if boeing 757s have run into headwinds crossing the atlantic and run too low on fuel. the flights originated in a half dozen european cities, including paris, amsterdam and stockholm. headwinds averaged 70 miles per hour, the strongest in a decade. the 757 burned too much fuel forcing them into unexpected refueling stops, often in canadian airports like goose bay. it happened 43 times last month, four times more than the previous december and another 14 times so far this month.

inconveniencing thousands of passenge passengers. in a statement, an airline spokesperson admitted headwinds caused an increased number of diversions. we are offering compensation as a gesture of goodwill when customers experience warranted it. >> the airlines relying more on smaller jets like the 757 on international routes because it can be more profitable than the larger 767. the 757s fuel tank is half the size. mark strawsman "cbs this morning," atlanta. captain sullenberger, the expert is with us now. welcome. >> good morning. great to you westbound. especially here. >> we're pleased to have you here. especially on this morning. what's the risk in this story this. >> well, it's really a passenger convenience issue. it's really a cost issue. pwe see is when a pilot has to divert orland in a airport he hasn't seen before. there are challenging airports, like green land where they've

landed to pick up fuel. it's not a safety issue as much as of an inconvenience. the choosing of the airline to use these smaller plane and hoping that the conditions would allow a nonstop flight has caused a lot of disappointment when the winds are stronger. >> a bad choice by the airlines? >> it was a choice hoping that things would work out and when the winds have been stronger, it hasn't worked out as well as they hoped. they've had about 3 1/2 types as many unplanned fuel stops as they typically have this time of year. >> what about those -- these headwinds are stronger than what we've seen in the last ten years. ha if -- is there a chance the headwinds could continue to increase? is this something that needs to be looked at, there should be a directive? >> i think my point is that we shouldn't put that point on it. we shouldn't cut it that close. again, the pilots are going to land when they have to because of fuel. this is really not a safeties

issue in that regard. it is a passenger convenience issue. it would have been a wiser choice to have a larger, longer range airplane where you had some reserves. some extra fuel. >> the economics of the airline industry today, that -- >> they're trying to match the capacity of the airplane with the expected passenger load. because you have to realize, the cost constraints they have now, they have to almost fill up every airplane to make any profit at all. to fly a larger airplane that's half full wouldn't -- >> so good to see you. a very nervous nellie flier. hearing you say, you don't have -- i get on a plane, the last thing i want to worry about is there enough fuel. having you here is reassuring to me. i want to go back like three years ago, the first time i met you. i was covering the oscars and you and your lovely wife lori were the belle of the ball. >> she was. >> you were too. you were too, sully. they were standing in line to

talk to you because it was shortly after the miracle landing. i remember thinking so many people came up to you with their stories of i'm so afraid, i'm this, i'm that. do people still do that to you? >> oh, of course. >> you walk into a room and it's reassuring to see you. >> they have to confess that to me. there are a lot of people that tell me that. still, flying is as safe as it's ever been. much safer than any other means of transport. i try to give people reassurance that we have a lot of trained professionals who will take care of you on every flight. >> help me understand the dips i doodle of the flight. no matter how bad the turbulence gets or you don't have to worry no matter how bad it gets, because it's difficult tore for the plane to come down because of turbulence. tell me that. >> yes. these planes are tested to withstand the worst turbulence plus a margin of 50%. the pilots are told to avoid turbulence.

>> are you buying this? >> if you have time, let me give you a quick experiment how to do do that. close your eyes and pay attention to the bumps. compare that to your last flight. it's much bumpier in a car. it's not part of everyday life. >> all right. >> here's what i've always wanted to ask you. three years ago coming up sunday. >> i can't believe it's been three years. >> what's krur deyour definitio courage? >> one of the best ones i've ever heard is courage is not the absence of fear, it's doing what you have to do in spite of it. >> i would add that to mine. which is grace under pressure. >> thank you. we had a lot of people that day who exhibited grace and did their jobs extraordinarily well. >> thanks so much for joining us. >> great to be with you. >> great to see you. before you pick up that orange juice this morning, you're going to want to make sure you see this story coming up about the u.s. halting all imports of oj at the bothered.

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a look at what's coming up in the next hour. gayle? >> thank you, charlie. don't we feel -- today marks the two-year anniversary of the devastating earthquake in haiti. one of the most heartbreaking aspects of the tragedy were all the children left orphans. erica recently returned from haiti and has the story of one couple, their effort to adopt a

child. we're going back to the white house where michelle obama gives us a tour of the east wing and talking about her family today. the man responsible for some of your favorite reality shows joins us in the studio. andy cohen talks about some of the other news we think should be on your radar screen. here's something i'm listening to with both ears. the company that makes twinkies has filed for bankruptcy. could this possibly, possibly mean no more twinkies for you? rebecca jarvis has the answer. before we go to break, yea or nay for the twinkies? >> that's why it's called a tease. >> she's cute. she's cute. i've been known to trample little children for the banana twinkies. we'll have the answer. you're watching "cbs this morning." your local news is coming up next.

♪ about being first lady. >> absolutely. >> when she offered good advice. we metaphor lunch here. we've talked on numerous occasions, especially when we travel abroad. when i told her -- absolutely. i mean, because she and the president, they raised a phenomenal young woman in the white house. you know, i think that's true if you look around at the first children. they're pretty solid kids. >> they are. a special shout out to chelsea clinton and the bush girls. welcome back to cbs this more than. i'm gayle king. before you say anything, do you feel better than you sound? >> i've been worried about it.

>> you know how much tea i've had this morning. >> i'm okay. >> i'm charlie rose. the sick charlie rose with erica hill in great health. years ago a massive earthquake struck haiti. the government said that more than 300,000 people died. erica went back there recently to see what's happened to some of the children who survived. >> charlie and gayle, the children were among the hardest hit victims. so many were orphaned. that's where a special couple from ohio sets it to this story. >> we were thrust into this sea of faces of children. >> john and julie kramer didn't come to haiti looking to grow their family. >> all wanting to spend time with us on the playground. and the thing that struck me more than anything else was the only thing they wanted was us. and time. >> already parents to a blended family of eight children and just years away from being empty nesters, the ohio couple arrived

at his home orphanage simply to help out. part of a trip their church. but there was one pair of eyes that made a lasting impression. >> he was across the room from me watching my face. i could feel her watching me. >> ten-year-old rose berlin has seen far more than any child should at her age. abandoned by her father as an infant, rose lost her mother in the earthquake that ravaged haiti two years ago. >> do they make you feel loved? >> yeah. >> rose was immediately drawn to julie. seeking her out, spending as much time with the ohio mother as she could. eventually, writing her a letter. >> she said hi julie, today is a pleasure for me to write you this letter. i want you to know that i love you so much and i'm happy to be your friend. i like the way you act and when you talk with me i'm feeling good. i want to tell you that i want you to be my mom adoption.

love rose berlin. >> nobody knows how many orphans there are in haiti and there are no state-run orphanages. before the earthquake this was the poorest country in the western hemisphere. there's no free public education. there is half of the adult population that can read. there are few social services. for many, daily life is simply a game survival. since the quake, it's only gotten worse. >> one of the problems that we have is -- i can talk about sanitation or what else. >> unicef is one of the many organizations working to make sure children are a top priority. the new head of haiti's social services agency is also trying to turn things around. visiting and investigating the country's estimated 700-plus privately run children's centers and orphanages. but she doesn't see international adoption as the

answer. >> put them in the family again. as we are doing with unicef -- >> if they don't have any family. >> and not against adoptions. i think it's the last option. >> her concern is twofold. not only child trafficking. many children offered for adoption actually have parents. but also the future of this country. if the children leave, who will lead haiti into its next chapter? yet, for those like rose berlin, adoption may be her only chance at a brighter future and a family. >> we want all of the children to have families. and if it can't be provided in haiti, then let it be elsewhere. >> look at that little girl. i wanted to tell her yes i'm be your mom, i want to be your mom. i love you too. but i couldn't. >> couldn't because the family

doesn't qualify to adopt rose berlin. they've only been married for two years. >> a couple has to be married for ten years. >> would you consider changing that requirement? >> no, i don't think so. i don't think. >> a frustrating answer for people like john and julie who believe they could be part of the solution. >> we may not have been married for ten years. but we, between us, have eight children. >> i know that we can provide the stability and provide the educational opportunity, the support that she needs. >> despite the odds, they're moving forward, submitting their adoption application two weeks ago. >> she's our daughter in our hearts. she'll always be there. >> now, just last year, haiti for the first time signed the hague convention on international adoption which protect the right of children, birth parents and adoptive parent. his home, which is the orphanage where rose lives is suspended until the ramifications are better known. that will not affect the

applications already in process. >> boy, that is frustrating, erica. you look at the little faces and you see people standing in line to adopt them. number one, i'm impressed that they have eight kids and want to take on another child. is the marriage requirement the only thing standing in the way for them? >> it's not. this marriage requirement of ten years. i asked the head of the social services agency if they would consider changing that. perhaps if a couple was married eight years. there are different requirements for single women in cases that they would consider an adoption. they look at that time requirement as showing that this is a stable couple, they've been together, can provide a stable foundation for the child. that's one. reasons it's in place. >> interesting. people could be married for ten years and be miserable and not be -- it's frustrating. >> a lot of people bring that up. a lot of people say why wouldn't you let this kid go home. what would be a better life than ohio with this couple. one thing they're concerned

about, not only child trafficking, but they worry about the future of the country. if all of the children leave, what happens next? they want to make sure that the children who are being adopted, because some parents will come in and offer their children up for adoption because they see it's the best option for their children. but they want to make sure that everything in fact is in place, that the parents fully understand the ramifications of their decision. it's not that they're not concerned about the children, but they're two different camps. a number of things that need to be taken into account. it's not an easy decision. >> if you see the kids, you want to change their life. >> they're pretty incredible kids, considering the circumstances they're under. they have a lot to offer and a lot of life in them. >> good report. >> thank

now you know what to wear as you begin your day. we talked so much with first lady michelle obama, we needed an extra day, we thought, to bring it all to you. we'll hear what she has to say about life in the white house bubble. also, the company behind the twinkie. used to love those. has filed for chapter 11. not the only familiar brand whose business is crumbling these days. that story is coming up, too. you're watching "cbs this morning." ♪ ♪

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very good news today for overweight americans. our national obesity rate has dropped one half of one percent. this drop is already having a negative impact on snack cake sales. hostess, the makers of wonder bread and twinkies, among other delicacies have just filed for bankruptcy protection. in other words, wonder has ironically run out of bread.

that's what we're talking about too. the shelf life of twinkies is forever. but that does not apply to the company that makes them. rebecca jarvis joins us to take a look at other familiar brands. >> good morning. >> people say you haven't lived until you've had a fried twinkie. i've heifer had fif never had it. some are contributing to the demise of companies. ranging from department stores to food manufacturers. some are finding ways to reinvent themselves. >> ever wonder how they get that creamy filling into the middle of a twinkies cake? >> it was a simple question that teased both the imagination. >> it's just born there. >> and the appetite of generations of children. >> great cake. >> creamy filling. >> how did hostess fill their famous cake. >> i'm happy hobo from hostess.

>> with that delicious creamy center. >> kids love hostee -- they're tightening its purse strings. filing for bankruptcy protection for the second time in a decade. >> you can count on sears. >> the latest iconic brand to fall victim to rising costs and changing tastes. >> these of places used to be all over new york city in the '40s, '50s. >> john phillips understands keeping up with the times. the lexington candy shop has been in his family for 87 years. >> people, instead of sitting reading a newspaper at the table with breakfast or lunch, they sit and read their blackberries. >> phillips found a way to use technology to maintain tradition. >> 87-year-old business. three generations. you have a twitter account and a facebook page now. >> correct. >> you have to. >> you have to. there's very few -- if you take stock of the brands you

purchase, very few are brands you haven't heard of before. >> scott gala way is a professor of marketing at new york university. he says reinvention is key in the struggle for survival. >> should your man smell like an old spice man. >> points to apple as a shining example of an established brand evolving. >> you can't talk about reinvention without talking about apple. people forget how poorly they were doing. unbelievable renaissance. >> makes you feel better. apple was a big comeback. can't do well enough these days. what gets a brand lasting power? >> you think about the brands that you use as a kid and many of these brands in the household in particular are the brands that the experts say will be around forever that have the lasting impact from tide. if you saw your mom or your dad wash your clothing with tide detergent, all of a sudden you're using that as well. coca-cola, pepsi as well.

dove. these are the brands that as a kid, see your parents use them and you trade to using them on your own. >> that is so true, rebecca. i use tide today. >> we did an unofficial poll yesterday in the office. every person used the same detergent as their mom or dad used [ it didn't occur to me to use something else i'm trying to help people here. >> twinkies are here to stay. that brand has a lot of value in it outside of whether or not hostess is bankrupt. twinkies, wonder bread, ding dongs, these are names like we said that they've had multiple years. they've been around since the great depression, the 1930s. when you could buy two for a nickel. you saw buyers yesterday after the bankruptcy say we're interested in this. there are certainly some buy the brand, not necessarily the company which has a lot of debt right now. >> i don't want to name any names. by our prompter said i have a t-shirt that said i like ho hos

and i'm talking about the cake. i clarified. are there any other brands that you see that are in trouble sm. >> kodak is another one mentioned in the piece. this is a sad story when you think about kodak. these are the stocks back in the 1960s, '70s, you could supposedly buy it at any time. here you you have them reportedly facing their own bankruptcy. part of the issue with kodak which is why it's a sad story is they came up with the technology for all the cameras that we use today. they just didn't focus on that side of the business and as a result, they really lost out to the digital world. they're really in the printer business now. which isn't enough to sustain them. >> they need to do a better job getting people like me to print pictures. would the key to some of the survival be the fact that some of the companies need to learn to evolve as the market evolves? >> they have to evolve and reinvent themselves. the american auto industry is an

example of who reinvented themselves and done so in a particularly strong way. one of the big market though that they're reinventing themselves in, the american iconic brands is not here in the u.s. it's in china, overseas. we saw that a couple months ago when you see all of these american brands from buick to he is destee lauder making it big there. >> thank you, rebecca. the west wing of the white house is famous. it even had its own tv show. but today we're going to take you on a rare look of the east wing courtesy of first lady michelle obama. you'll see it only on "cbs this morning." this portion of "cbs this morning" sponsored by truvia, natural sweetener. as for calories, it has zero. twinkle twinkle truvia® star,

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actors dinner so they have to take him on his last walk. >> do you have to clean up? >> yeah. but bo, he goes in the ivy. he doesn't go out. >> on the grass? >> ever since he's -- clean up in the ivy. >> don't walk in the ivy. >> now you know. i don't care who you are, nobody likes that duty. i did that for years. first lady michelle obama on some of the less glamorous jobs. she took us on a personal tour of the east wing where she keeps her office. it's filled with photographs of the first family. unscripted and private. she talks about raising their daut irs, malia and sasha. above all, how important it is to live a normal life. very important to her. we'll have the first lady's east tour ahead. it's something you'll only see on "cbs this morning."

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breakout sitcom. we'll take a look at some of the other highlights of last night's people's choice awards in just a few minutes. welcome back to "cbs this morning." right now we'll go one-on-one again with michelle obama. more of the conversation we had this week with the first lady of white house. she gave us a rare tour of the east wing. >> can i just say i love this picture. you know what, what is it like for you when you walk down the hall? >> i love this picture. >> this is the east wing. this is my office. it's family. so you -- >> it's all family photos? >> well, this is family. my staff is family. it's like sharing some of your best moments with your crew much this was at the world series. jill and i. >> i remember that. >> were there with a wounded warrior and his daughter who is so adorable. i can't remember where we were. typical barack. this is after one of the christmas parties. you see me take off my shoes.

that was probably after like a 300-person photo line. the first thing i do after those is take my shoes off. carry my shoes upstairs. >> do you ever walk down and look at the pictures around the white house and go that's me, that's us? >> sometimes, yeah. >> do you ever marvel at your life? >> yeah. you live at 1600 pennsylvania avenue and you're about to start another campaign. >> it is so cool. so yes, i have a lot of fun in this job. you can look down the hall and see fun. >> i know, really your life is sort of documented, really. the girls' too. >> i thank the photographers for tracking the -- if it were up to me, it's like what did sasha look like when she was -- >> i don't have a picture. >> but we do. >> is it hard to make sure they have a normal life. living in the white house is a bubble some would say. do you think you live in a bubble? >> we do absolutely live in a bubble. >> i'm glad you know it. >> it's shatterproof glass on

our windows. men with guns on the roof. that's just the reality of it. so yeah, it's something that we have to work for. so i have to keep my kids on track to do things that we would do if we weren't here. whether it's vacation or camp or taking a trip that we would normally take. it's letting them -- to get them outside of the bubble. to get them to a place. that's why going to hawaii is so important. they can run on the beach and be away and be normal. that's so important. i fight for that for them. because -- >> to make sure they get that. >> that they get it. i'm a mom. i think they deserve it. you know, they handle the stuff with grace. they don't complain. they don't say, you know -- they're always doing service and -- >> this is sasha. >> i think this was thanksgiving. although i get confused. we do a lot of service. this is one of the times we were

at one of the food pantries. >> what are you doing here? >> i am being completely silly. we were at the u.n. and there was -- >> proof of silliness. >> i crack him up all the time. that's our behind the scenes silly. >> you two still crack each other up, don't you? >> yeah. now we've got two other people, malia and sasha are old enough where they crack us up too and they crack themselves up. they have that good sarcastic humor. >> what do you and the president do that embarrass your daughters? all parents do something that their kids go oh, my god, you won't believe my mom and dad? >> for me, it's singing and dancing. if i break into my -- when we're at a place somewhere and i want to get sasha to laugh because i think she's too serious, if you don't smile, i'm going to start dancing. >> she's like no, don't dance. >> every child has something even though you're president and the first lady. do you really have to do that?

>> our kids, okay, so this is another thing. they don't really want us to come up to school. >> they don't? >> oh, because -- especially the president. because when he comes for parent-teacher conference, it's a motorcade. the other day malia was like oh, no, is dad coming? is he bringing all those cars? really? it's like the other day, i think they almost hit my teacher. when. >> when i look at the pictures of the girls and how much they've grown, dating will come up are you worried about that? >> i'm excited for it. that's part of living. that's just sort of liking somebody and being excited. >> can people just call and talk to them, their friends can call and say hey. >> malia has a cell phone. very limited access. it's monitored. but she has one. she reaches out to her friends and there was a period in time when she wanted that and she was

ready for that. we had to -- but there are rules around when she can use it and who can be on it. all that good stuff. but you know, there are ways that her friends -- we're at the theater. >> are we going in here? >> it's red velvet. this is what was here when we came. >> i'm thinking elvis. red velvet. i'm not saying that's a bad thing. i'm just saying i'm thinking elvis. >> it is clearly red develop ret. >> do you come here a lot. >> we watch movies. that's what we do. when there are good movies. the kids like to go to the movie theaters. >> they don't like to come here? >> no. they like the experience of the movie theater. i'm like, we have a movie here. they're like, i don't care. my kids are like any children, anything we do is not cool. >> they're not interested in hanging out. >> they're like, nice, congratulations way to go. but we're going over to x's

house. >> when the president comes home on the helicopter, they don't run to the window to look and see? >> you know, for the first couple of times, it was interesting. but that's how he comes home all the time. so it's sort of like, whatever. >> we're close to the west wing. do you ever just pop in? should we pop in today? >> yeah -- >> is he here? >> he is here. but i try not to pop in with cameras and lights. i think that's one boundary. >> mr. president, we happen to be here. >> gayle is here. excuse me. >> he looks like he was just groomed. >> he was. he was kind of stinky from our -- >> hi bo. >> hi man. >> i remember where you said bo is really -- oh, gosh, he's well-we behaved. >> do you find you take care of him more than anybody else? >> i think the girls do a pretty good job because they do most of the walking. >> so darn cute. >> you know, i'm the alpha to him in the house.

i'm the person that he can tell garners more -- me and barack. he clearly knows that the girls are other -- >> just one male president and one male dog. >> this is all. >> do we need to make an announcement here, michelle, you know it's my wish? >> oh, yeah you're still wishing for that? >> i'm still wishing for a baby. >> there will be no other children in the white house. i can officially make that announcement here. you heard it here first. >> so you want to see a larger obama family? >> you know, this is the thing, charlie. i was raised where i wanted a brother so desperately. i think it's nice when you have one of each. as you know, erica, you can have two of the same and it's great too. every time i ask the question, she says no, we're happy here gayle. keep it moving. >> i grew up as an only child. >> you were an only child, charlie? i didn't know that. did you like being an only child? >> i like it also. i would have loved to have brothers and sisters for all

kinds of things. conversation about everything at the dinner table. but also to play sports with. like my dog, i wish there was another dog there, so it would be an automatic chase. let me come back to the first lady. >> would you have wanted a little brother or sister, you charlie rose? >> i would have wanted a little brother. >> go ahead. what were you going to say? >> let me ask this. you spent time with her. >> yes. >> you knew going into this. >> yes, i did. >> what do you want us to take away from michelle obama? >> i want you to take away that michelle obama is loving, she's kind shall she's passionate and more than anything, she loves being first lady of the united states. this isn't idle chatter for her. she takes it very, very seriously. she's looking forward to returning for another four years. they'll work very hard to make that happen. >> you get the impression that the kids will be very normal. >> i do. >> despite all of that? >> she is fierce, she goes into

really mama bear mode when it comes to -- she started off saying i'm mom in chief. they still remain her top priority. when you meet them, you know they are normal. that comes from great parenting. >> despite all that is around them, it doesn't change the essential core relationship between husband and wife. >> not that i can see. not that i can see. i'm not there often. but not that i can see. >> great stuff, gayle. really nice night thank you. >> if you missed my interviews with the first lady. guess what. we have you covered. you can find them on cbs news.com/"cbs this morning." turns out gayle was not the only white house visitor this week. although she was the most important. brad and angelina were there too. the they got to hang with the president. katy perry was not at the white house but she was not at the people's choice awards either. we'll take a look at those stories and other news with bravo's andy cohen this mo

oh, mitt. oh, mitt. what am i going to do with you in [ laughter ] >> i'm so confused. >> if this were a romantic comedy, i'd get advice from my perceptive gay best friend. >> andy, how are you? andy cohen everybody. [ applause ] >> that is andy cohen, executive vice president of bravo and host of "watch what happens live" who joins us in the studio here. did you know that andy was gay, erica? stephen colbert said -- >> this is breaking news. cbs is all about hard news. >> that's right. >> that's hard news there. >> that's right. >> absolutely.

that's a shocker. you were shocked, right, gayle? >> a little bit. >> you thought you and i -- we do. >> i definitely did. >> confuses the issue. >> yes, erica? >> the only story we have this morning. you're here to dish about other items in other news. one of them is the people's choice awards. we're happy with cbs for two broke girls. you know what this is like on both sides. you covered them before when you worked at cbs even. >> i covered many award shows. i have to say, i spent a lot of time at cbs in the morning. i spent most of the '90s on the morning show on cbs. there i am actually in my cubicle at cbs. that had to be in '92. i had a ponytail. yeah. that's me. >> before you leave, you can drop by and see the cubicle. >> seventh floor. still in operation, is that right? extension 2824. i used to answer the phones.

in any way case, covering awards show, i wrote a book which comes out later in the year. i write about my time at cbs. i describe the time backstage at awards shows as you tuxedo warfare. they make you dress in tuxedos, even the camera guys have to dress in tuxedos. it's humiliating to show we're back here in this dump and you're fighting for bookings. >> it ups the ante and sets a phone for the show. >> i get that. >> you're the lady in the wings of the oscars getting access to everyone. i was in the back of the back, you know, fighting, fighting. anyway, the people's choice awards -- >> what about katy perry. i know you're getting divorce and you'll get all these questions about your marriage. but to not show up at all and she did well. >> it's an awards show for the fans vote on the people's choice awards much she won five.

she didn't show. she should have just shown up. big whoop. >> when you're going through a divorce and i've been through it, when you're going through a divorce, it can be a painful time. we don't know what's going on behind the scenes. i get why she wouldn't want to come. you don't want to hear the questions. >> she'll be in asia next week. she's singing. >> that's asia. i get it. >> you know for the fans, she could take their love and say thank you. maybe it would boost her up, make her feel better. anyway. >> katy didn't consult with me but i think she did the right thin. i absolutely think she did the right thing. talking about brad add angelina going to the white house yesterday. >> at 4:00 i get some coffee. at 4:00 our president has a visit from brad and angelina. it's good to be the king. i love it. >> it's one of those things where hollywood meets washington. i didn't think that was a bad thing. did you?

>> did people say it was a bad thing that they came by? >> kr did they get an audience with the president? >> it happens all the time. >> i get it. >> the photo of richard nixon and elvis. it's been going on forever. congratulations on the interview with the first lady. >> thanks. andy. >> i love that tour. >> the timing worked out for us. >> it worked out really well. >> we were lucky to have you on it. >> as you mentioned, you have your show. >> you were up late. >> i was up very late last night. >> so nice of you to come today. >> sure. >> you have a new game with a an old friend of mine. >> we've been playing every day on watch what happens live this week. it's taking the world by storm. quest love on sunday night declared war on tina fey. they had to share a hoagie on jimmy fallon's show the other night to make peace. anderson, something nutty happened. he was -- i give them three

questions. you can plead the fifth on one question. i said to anderson, what celebrity would you ban on your show? two minutes before i played plead the fifth there's a tweet from cloe i kardashian who says i'm falling in love with anderson cooper right now. he's great and lovable. two minutes later we're playing plead the fifth and he bans the kardashians from his shows. >> have you heard back from her? >> hasn't. but she's coming up in a few weeks. >> i know. >> i don't know if we should thank you for the real housewives. i never watch -- i admit, i do. i watch. >> excuse me, this lady watches. she sends e-mails at odd hours with specific questions and details. >> this is the thing that's fascinating to me. no matter where you go, people say i don't watch but then people proceed to tell you the storyline. are there other times, andy, you're watching and it is popular, and you're right, erica, i watch. when you're looking at the

screen, you cringe and go, i wish that hadn't happened >> the truth of the matter is -- >> do the hula or -- >> i'm a kind hearted fella. you got an earful in the dressing room from charlie. >> charlie wachls -- >> that would be breaking news if charlie rose watching real housewives. >> i know. >> that would be bigger news than the game. >> the day is young. we're going to go up to seventh floor after the show. >> your old desk. >> charlie says that andy may be escorted from the building now. >> right, exactly. >> thank you, andy for joining us not the first time escorted from this building. >> thank you for coming. >> thank you. rosie o'donnell tonight on my h my show. >>

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