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captioning funded by cbs welcome to studio 357 at the cbs broadcast center. i charl is rose. there's a rescue in somalia. we'll go live to the pentagon. also, state of the union reaction from vice president joe biden and house republican leader, eric cantor. i am gayle king. demi moore is rushed to the hospital of the we'll get the latest on that. are doctors ordering too many medical tests to cover their own actions. we'll get into that debate. new rules for airlines. we'll see what your ticket really cost. we'll show you how friends and the right women saved a snowmobiler from an avalanche. as we do every morning, we
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begin with today's eye-opener. it is your world in 90 seconds. >> it's time to apply the same rules from top to bottom, no bailouts, no handouts and no copouts. >> president obama uses his state of the union address to make his case for economic reform and reelection. >> you can call this class warfare all you want, but asking a billionaire to pay at least as much as his secretary in taxes, most americans would call that common sense. >> that's my drinking game. every time he says middle class, i'm having a beer. i hope i'm drunk by the time the speech is over. >> if you're playing the state of the union drinking game, you're probably an alcoholicment. >> a daring nighttime raid by special forces rescue two hostages held in somalia. jessica due can an and paul hag on thisted. good job, tonight. not been made public. >> if you add up all the taxes i
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paid, they range between 32 and 42%. >> mitt pays 15%. >> people power beats money power every time. >> you can come back next january or february with president gingrich. >> let me just say this. that will never happen. actress demi moore is in a treatment facility reportedly dealing with stress and exhaustion. >> all that -- >> shovel. >> the pats are going to spank them. >> all that matters, where the wild things are 2, still wildin. next on "cbs this morning." welcome to "cbs this morning." all eyes last night were on president obama as he gave his state of the union address.
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but he was thinking of something else. a u.s. special operations mission in somalia. >> some sharp eyed observers noticed the acknowledgment that the secretary made to leon panetta before his address to the nation. >> good job tonight. good job tonight. >> this morning, president obama is praising the troops for a daring rescue of two hostages including one american from somali pirates. correspondent david martin is at the pentagon. david, good morning. >> good morning, charlie. you have to excuse my voice. it went awol overnight. >> david, i have been there. i understand. >> okay we know at this moment is that u.s. navy seals apparently members of that same seal team 6 which carried out the bin laden raid carried out a daring nighttime raid into somalia to rescue a young american woman and an older danish relief worker. they rescued them. they're in good health. they were taken to the country
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of gentleman beauty. the seals suffered no casualties. what was daring about this operation is that they parachuted into this operation in the middle of the night and so they hit the ground coming straight out of aircraft overhead. and then helicopters came in, once the raid was in progress. helicopters came in to pick them up and carry them out. so this was not your average nighttime raid. >> this also was high risk as you suggest. but the president had to give his approval before they made the mission? >> and we understand he gave it sometime yesterday morning. obviously, it was in the works for some time before that. there was a degree of urgency here. the danish relief worker was in ill health. the operation itself was carried out in the early evening and had obviously been completed and
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completed successfully by the time the president walked into the chamber of the house of representatives to give the state of the union address. so he could, as he went to the podium, he congratulated defense secretary leon panetta. then after the speech, he called the father of jessica buchanan, the young american aide worker and told him that she was in good shape. so just another day at the office for the president. >> thank you, david. get well. in his state of the union address, president obama set forth his election year agenda with a special appeal to the middle class. senior white house correspondent bill plant has the details this morph. bill, good morning. >> good morning, erica. by calling this a make or break moment for the middle class and by calling for a lot of legislation which doesn't have a prayer of passing in this congress, the president was in effect, making the opening argument of his reelection campaign. he said that the state of the union is getting stronger, but
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he declared that the american dream is in danger. >> the defining issue of our time is how to keep that promise alive. >> for the first time, the president put a number on what he called the buffett rule. billionaire investor warren buffett's bloef that his secretary, who was seated in the first lady's box shouldn't be paying a higher tax rate than he does. >> tax reform should follow the buffett rule. if you make more than a million dollars a year, you should not pay less than 30% in taxes. now, you can call this class warfare all you want. but asking a billionaire to pay at least as much as his secretary in taxes? most americans would call that common sense. >> that call could come up often on the campaign trail particularly if the president's opponent is mitt romney who just revealed tax returns showing an effective tax rate of 14%. >> it's time to apply the same rules from top to bottom. no bailouts, no handouts and no
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copouts. >> as the president called for an agenda to help innovation, lauren powell jobs, widow of steve jobs watched from the first lady's box. mr. obama proposed health for refinancing mortgages, encouraging energy exploration, repairing the nation's infrastructure and rewarding good teachers. he asked for changes in the way washington does business. >> i talked tonight about the deficit of trust between main street and wall street, but the divide between this city and the rest of the country is at least as bad. it seems to get worse every year. >> one thing on which the president and all members of congress could agree, the performance of the nation's armed forces. >> for the first time in two decades, osama bin laden is not a threat to this country. >> an unusually tender moment before the speech shall the president embraced injured congresswoman gabby giffords who resigns her seat today to focus on healing. her husband, mark kelley looked
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down from the first lady's box. [ applause ] mitch daniels shall the governor of indiana who many republicans hoped would run for president gave his party's response to president obama's speech. >> no feature of the obama presidency has been sadder than its constant efforts to divide us to curry favor with some americans by castigating others. if we fail to shift to a pro jobs, pro growth economic policy, there will never be enough public revenue to pay for your safety net, national security or whatever size government we have. >> the president takes off for iowa and arizona today to talk about american manufacturing and those are the first stops on a three-day tour in which he'll reinforce his message in the speech, boosting the economy to help the middle class. he'll do it in five states that are all part of his campaign's reelection plan. charlie, erica sm.
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>> bill plant at the white house in washington. thank you, bim. with us now the vice president of the united states, joe biden. good morning. >> hey, charlie. how are you doing sm. >> doing well. good to see you. >> good to see you, charlie. >> thank you. what can you add to what we have heard about this very successful raid rescue raid in somalia? >> nothing much other than to say it was in the works for some time. we followed as we always do the advice of the special operators, when they should move. this was incredibly daring as your man pointed out. these guys are mind blowingly effective at what they do. just before i left the white house last night to head up to the hill, it was going on in the situation room. we knew what was happening it's a happy day. everyone should know, aulg the pirates and terrorists should know, we will find you. we will find you and we will take care of america's interest. these guys are amazing. >> let me turn to the state of
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the union address and the upcoming campaign. many looked at the address and said it was an address to the state of the union but it also was the opening of the political campaign and that it was almost a campaign message of which the center element was fairness. >> well, that's been the essence of what we've been talking about from the beginning. when we ran we talked approximate this. the bargains have been broke in the middle class. i know governor daniels and others talk about class warfare or we're picking people. it's bottom line is simple. the middle class has been hammered. they've been hammered. we think that we should be focusing on what's fair is to give them a shot. that's why the focus on the manufacturing, good jobs there, they're coming home. that's why we focused on education. that's part of the middle class dream that you can have a kid to go on to college, go on to school after high school. that's kr we focused on the whole notion that we're going to make sure that the middle class people get a fair shot.
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it's not about bad guys or good guys. it's about without the middle class growing, nothing happens good in this country. nothing happens that's positive. they've not been growing. they deserve a piece of the growth. >> at the essence of this speech, was the military metaphor, the president brought it up at the beginning, he brought it up at the end. the military, he said, works together. does the administration also bear some responsibility for the paralysis in washington in which two sides are not working together? >> look, charlie, i don't think so. this president came in with open arms. he said look, i'm ready to talk to anybody, i'm ready to sit down. by the way, we did on major, major issues sit down with republican leadership and in fairness to them, we made deals we thought we could have a deal. i shook hands with a couple of the leaders and they called back and said they can't get it done. what happened was that the election 2010, elected a group
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of republicans that are a minority but seem to be the tail that's wagging the dog. the president has reached out in every way. when i hear this stuff, we don't talk to them. my lord, i spend over 40 hours sitting down with the republican leadership, me personally in a room, no press, trying to work out issues. we constantly have done that. some of them have been honest and say we can't get much done, joe. we can't get it done. our guys won't -- look, charlie, you saw it in the whole debate about the payroll tax. what happened finally? it wasn't we convinced the republicans that they had to be reasonable. the whole world came down on them from the wall street journal to their own people. >> there's also accountability and taking some accountability for the past three years and many point out that the president did not mention simpson bowls which was a bipartisan effort to come together. >> look, there's not a single republican out there that pushed simpson bowles. that called for a significant increase in taxes.
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we call for the fact that they're -- should be two thirds, one-third. did you hear any republican come up and say that's a good idea, charlie? we had the essence of what it was. we said i was personally part of the negotiation to actually work on medicare, medicaid and social security. they walked away from it. so this idea of simpson bowles is somehow a holy grail that we walked away from, the elements calls for significant cuts in the defense department, significant increase in revenues. have you heard a single republican say they're for that, charlie? >> i didn't hear the president endorse it either. >> oh, yeah, the president did. he didn't endorse simpson bowles per se but he endorsed the same principles. someone said last night, it's absolutely true, if we had endorsed simpson bowles, it would have become obama biden. that would have no shot. we talked with a gang of six.
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this was a constant round robin of trying to deal with these big issues. at the end of the day, i was told 86 folks in the house who will not be for anything that has one penny of revenue or does anything about defense. >> on the republican side, there seem to be a surge for former speaker newt gingrich. you have been in the congress a long time. you were there. how do you see the prospect of speaker gingrich becoming republican nominee gingrich? >> charlie, i couldn't figure out the democratic primary. i would have joined the president early on. i am not very good at this. but look, newt gingrich is a talented guy. the guy is really good. he's a great debater. but the bottom line here is there's no fundamental difference between newt gingrich and governor romney on the things we care about. on the whole issue of how we deal with foreign policy, on how we deal with the domestic policy. i don't -- you know, this is a
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republican fight. substantively, i don't see any fundamental difference between the men. >> are you worried about what's going to happen in iran. because many are saying that the present tension there is the very thing that joe biden has been talking about for a long time. the possibility of three different sides engaging in a very, very difficult struggle that may become civil war. >> well, the truth is, i'm not worried about it becoming a civil war in iraq. the fact is, charlie, we have 160,000 troops out of there. i'm almost in daily contact with the major players, the sunnis, the shia, the kurds. the one thing still going on, every time they come to the brink, they decide it's better to resolve this politically. it's going to be two steps forward, one back. but i think it's going to remain stable. i think the deal is going to hold. this is -- these are the painful, painful groanings of the democracy. >> mr. vice president, thank you.
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pleasure to have you on this program. >> thank you. we are hearing a different reaction from the other side of the aisle as expected. republican speaker of the house dismissed the address as a campaign speech even before the president opened his mouth. >> he spent the last four months doing nothing but campaigning. hasn't been engaged in a process. if the president wants us to work together, it takes two to tango. >> we did see speaker boehner and eric cantor applauding a couple of time. maybe there's some common ground. congressman cantore, good morning to you. >> good morning, charlie. >> as you listen to the president talk about the military. it has the idea where there was cooperation and where there was a sense of mission and where people didn't care about the differences as much as they thought about common ground. did that resonate with you and does that call you to come to the table and provide some kind of agreement with the
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administration? >> certainly support for our armed forces, our men and women in uniform is one thing we can all unite behind here in washington. we've got challenges as far as how we're going to continue to support them. that's one of the things that will be at issue this year. i think you'll see many of us on the republican side of the aisle insist that now is not the time for us to reduce the spending to support our men and women in uniform. but there's no doubt that there's a bipartisan support for our military and, you know, i think that the president's use of the military as the model is certainly a valid one. but, again, i think there are a lot of serious issues that unfortunately, the white house and we see things very differently on. that has a lot to do with the frustration across the country. >> but the vice president just made a very clear point that he thinks that tax reform and fairness that's at the center of this campaign and that the buffett rule in which anybody
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who makes more than a million dollars will pay 30%. is that fair necessary or do you consider that class warfare? >> well, you know, the president brought warren buffett's secretary to the state of the union last night. you know, i care about warren puff et's secretary. i want her to do well, i want her to do better just as i think everybody in this country should have an opportunity to achieve and pursue their dreams. >> should she be paying a higher percentage than mr. buffett should be paying? >> i don't think anyone wants to pay higher taxes. i think the reality is the reason why warren buffett's secretary and so many millions of other americans are frustrated is they see policies that have been promoted for the last three years by this white house that frankly, don't work. what do most people do when you reach a point and see that things aren't working? you try something new. and that's what we're here trying to advocate to say look, we've got a bold vision for this
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country and how to focus on a growth oriented, small business perspective. let's get out of the mind-set of saying that washington's got to start this program and initiate some other new project because that's not what america is built on. the backbone of america has to do with the aspirational sense of small business in in country. that's where jobs come from. that's what people want to see. hopefully, we can come together on that simple notion that it is small business that's the backbone of america and we've got to provide the actual vision and the policies that can allow them to start up again and grow. >> sir, one quick question about the race for 2012. as the new quinn by yak poll which shows newt gingrich and mitt romney now tied in that state. you said over the weekend, it behooves us all to have the choice laid out as early as possible. does this concern you at all that there is not a clear choice right now for your party? >> i think all of us want to go
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and make sure we can coalesce around our nominee because there is a very stark difference between the candidates on our side and the vision that they have to bring this country forward and that espoused by the president last night in the state of the union address. clearly, i think it's reflective, the debate going on in our presidential primary process is reflective of a party are robust ideas and bold visions for the future. that's what we're going to be about. we're going to be about a vision that is very much focused on the private sector. we want to stop taking more money from the people who earn it. let them keep it. help. >> sir, we have to continue more of this as we continue the campaign. because i have a feeling the satellite might cut you off. appreciate your time as always. >>
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♪ mitt romney would release his tax returns. he has along with everything else been nothing if not consistent. >> i don't intend to release tax returns. [ laughter ] >> mitt? >> not something i'm planning today but never say never. >> mitt romney. >> what's happened in history is people have released them in april of the coming year. that's probably what i'd do. >> your tax returns, sir! >> i'll do that on tuesday of this week. >> thank you. welcome back to "cbs this
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morning." we begin this half hour with the latest on demi moore. reports out of hollywood have the actress rushed to an emergency room. >> her spokesperson blamed exhaustion. as reported rs there is concern it could be something more dangerous. >> there have been a string of red carpet appearances of late. demi moore has hardly been in hiding. but the public face of the actress that seemed to never age has been changing of late. >> her appearance has been alarming over the past few months. she's lost a significant amount of weight. she's been very upset by the demise of her marriage to ashton kutcher. it's something that's really affected her. >> she split from the star of cbs' "two and a half men" in november after public allegations of cheating on kutcher's part. late monday a spokesperson for demi moore said that it had finally taken a toll. because of the stresses in her life now, a statement read, demi has chosen to seek professional assistance to treat her
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pexhaustion and improve her overall health. melanie bromley of us weekly magazine thas that's a stark contrast. >> she has the iman of a healthy individual. always walking around carrying juices, she's slim. this proves how difficult the past few months have been for her. >> adding to the worry, tmz reports the actress was rushed to a los angeles hospital monday night and underwent treatment for substance abuse. despite her private struggles, she has a lot to be publicly proud of. >> we've gotten ourselves quite exposed here, haven't we? >> her most recent film, margin call, got an oscar nod. her performance was critically acclaimed. for now, it's friends and family she's keeping close. as she seeks help to get back on track. for "cbs this morning," i'm lee cowan in hollywood. we now turn to therapist
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howard samuels specializing in treating people addicted to drugs and alcohol. good morning, sir. >> good morning, charlie. >> as i look at this and think about this story, clearly it is in part about celebrity and a well-publicized breakup of a relationship. why should we look at this story? is it because that stress that we do not recognize making a toll in our lives? >> well, charlie, you have to understand something. everyone talks about celebrities like they're an alien race. they are not. they are human beings with feelings, life struggles, relationship struggles and here you have a woman that even though she is rich and famous, she's not -- she can't put away all those horrific feelings from this divorce. i mean, this is a woman who publicly her husband cheated on her. what a horrific thing for a woman to go through publicly. this is an opportunity for her to go to a place hopefully where
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she can have a safe place where professionals can help her deal with those emotions that all of us have to go through. >> when we talk about dealing with her treating exhaustion, what exactly does ha mean in when you're treated for exhaustion? >> it's like a hollywood spin to be honest with you. okay? what we're really talking about is that she is overcome by emotions that she cannot handle at her home. she has to go to a safe environment where trained professionals can help her sort out all these feelings that she has not been able to deal with and to be able to work through them in a healthy way and to be able then to come out on the other side and be able to start her new life over again. that's really what we're talking about. >> do we know that it was the marriage breakup that has caused this consequence for her? >> well, i mean, we don't know that for sure. you know, come on, one and one
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is two. i mean, for someone to go through such a horrific thing. i mean, her husband on the front page of all the papers is cheating on her publicly. i mean, what a horrific thing for a person to go through. of course, i think that this is a big thing that she's had to overcome and she obviously needs professional help to do so. there should be no shame in that. i mean, unfortunately, in our culture we look at that as a bad thing. i look at it as a professional that runs a treatment center. i think that's a very positive thing because we cannot go through a lot of these life struggles alone and we need help to do that. i don't think that's bad. i think that's very healthy. >> howard samuels, good to have you with us this morning. thank you. >> you're welcome. you often expect airlines to add on tacks and fees for everything these days, right? when a flight is advertised at $151 but then costs five times that much, something has to give. there is now a new rule that
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♪ starting tomorrow, the government is forcing airlines really costs.at a plane ticket >> imagine that. transportation correspondent mark strawsman says it targets deceptive advertising. >> you've seen airline ads promising prices that seem too good to be true. often, they are. today's the last day the airlines can exclude most government taxes and fees in their advertised price for a flight. starting tomorrow, they have to disclose the entire price or face fines from the department of transportation. >> 7:15. that works perfectly. >> kate hanni, founder of flyers rights.org helped to push through the new regulations. >> this rule brings transparency to passengers and predictability to their trips. it was necessary because the
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airlines have implemented many things which people would considered deceptive practices but weren't breaking the law. now if they do them, they will be breaking the law. >> for a typical ticket, government tacks and fees can add as much as $60 to the price of the ticket. right now, airline ads can market the price for just $215. tomorrow, they'll have to tell you up front the real cost is $260. for an international flight, it can be greater. taxes and fees can push the flight of a new york to london flight advertised at $151 all the way to $735. >> these are all things the airlines don't want us to know. they want to keep us in the dark because they make more money. >> the airlines say they're being singled out unfairly. they argue virtually every other type of business from electronics stores to supermarkets advertises the price of their products before taxes. >> most everything that we
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purchase in just everyday lives, you know that when you see a price, it does not include taxes and fees. >> what the new rules won't do is prevent airlines from advertising flights at a certain price when only a fraction of the seats are readily available at the sale price. passenger rights advocates say it's a big next step in the right direction. "cbs this morning," atlanta.
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a dramatic rescue of a snow mole bealer. he was buried alive. suffering serious burns to his face, unable to breathe. >> john blackstone reports he was pulled to safety just in time. >> the snowmobilers in washington's cascade range had cut a fresh path across the hillside. one of them, john swanson, was off his machine and walking. he didn't see the avalanche cascading down behind him. then burying him. swanson needed help fast. >> the reality is that i was getting suffocated face first into the snow. >> others on the hill raced toward the place he disappeared. but swanson couldn't help them. >> i couldn't move anything. i couldn't my legs, my toes, my arms, anything. >> can you breathe? >> and it's always said to try to get your hand up so somebody knows where to search for you.
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there was no physical way. >> several of swanson's friends, including rick joe bli ski were digging frantically. i could hear him where the voice was. >> get his helmet off. >> under the snow, swanson wasn't sure what happened. >> i could hear them yelling. where are you at? i knew they were close. >> we got you, buddy. >> we got you, you're good. >> you got his head. >> there was a happy ending because the snowmobilers were wearing safety equipment, including helmet we got to see it all because on one helmet there was a camera. >> shovels. shovels. >> what the camera did not capture was the final rescue. >> we dug a hole down to his shoulders and then two guys just grabbed him and pulled him right up out of the ground. everybody is hugging him and wow, wow, that's so cool. >> they were probably more
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shaken up by it than i was. they pulled me out of the snow. i got back on the snowmobile and rode some more. >> this was later that his predicament sunk in. still, he intends to be back on his snowmobile this weekend. for "cbs this morning," john blackstone, san francisco. >> it really is. to have it captured on video like that. >> power camera. >> ready to get back out. a storm is making a spectacular light show. we'll look at the trouble it's causing. beautiful, except when it starts to throw off sat rights, force planes off their routes. could be an issue. you're watching krb this morning. "cbs this morning." this portion of "cbs this morning" sponsored by macy's. ♪ that aroma calls to you
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♪ i think we have for you, here it is. this is at an ice rink in slovakia where the roof fell in on sunday. keep watching this. look at that roof collapsing. too much ice and snow. obviously the weight of it on top. the roof collapses. just a short time before that, the hockey players, including a former nfl player, had just been
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skating below. talk about getting out in time. charlie rose has left me. he's had it with me. he's gone to join gayle king where apparently it's more fun in the green room as you look at what's coming up. >> you got it, erica. i'm with gayle in the green room. i'm jealous, she gets to talk to the guests beforehand including ken auletta. >> he pointed out he looks different today because. >> he wears a tie for you and never worn a tie in more than 100 appearances on another program. >> i like that. ken auletta will be joining us. >> i'm not sure the tie matches the shirt. >> he's doing okay. we're doing a story today about oscar nominations and does it affect the box office. that's why ken auletta is here. is it distracting during a presidential debate. one candidate may not participate if the audience is asked to keep quiet. applause is better than boo'ing. we have the courageous story, i'm walking to lee
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woodruff, she has the story of how one woman peeled her husband and her marriage. i felt for this woman. >> imagine if one day your husband didn't remember anything about your marriage, about you, about loving you or what it meant to be a husband. that's what we're going to talk about. >> we had a good life together, we did. this story has a good ending. we are talking approximate that. thank you, lee. she was nominated at the age of 18. now she's enjoying her shameless success. that's a good play on words. the name of her show is "shameless "requesting. emmy rossum is here today. your local news is next. we'll leave you with ken aule a auletta's tie. does it match?
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the candidates did not attack each other. thanks to saturday night live host and part-time news anchor brian williams. >> invited guests here this evening to withhold their applause, any verbal reactions to what they hear on stage. >> way to go, admiral fun stop. the applause and the cheering is how you know who won. debates should be like a wet t-shirt contest. by the way, newt gingrich would totally win a wet t-shirt contest. that could be the only thing the candidates have not done to get our attention. it's 8:00. welcome back to "cbs this morning." i'm gayle king. i assure you, no wet t-shirt contests here. >> we're happy to announce.
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>> we know who would win. >> i'm charlie rose with erica hill. there was no cheering or shouting at the debate in tampa. >> as reported, the applause can make a difference at any level of politic. >> applause during the state of the union address seems to come as often as a period at the end of each sentence. there were roughly 80 applause breaks in president obama's speech and those audible outbursts can be a vital tool. just ask newt gingrich who is success in harnessing the power of the audience helped fuel his surge in south carolina last week. >> i am appalled that you would begin a presidential debate on a topic like that. >> and if the debate before that when the crowd turned on the questioner. >> saw some of this reaction during your visit to a black church in south carolina. >> so when the rules at monday's
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debate forbade that kind of audience participation. >> we've asked our invited guests this evening to withhold their applause. >> it changed the dynamic. >> i think it matters to the television audience at home which is what really matters in this discussion. because people sitting in their living rooms get an ee mowing al charge from how the audience in the hall is reacting. >> tuesday, newt gingrich complained about monday night's rules. >> we're going to serve notice on future debates. we're not going to allow that to happen. that's wrong. the media doesn't control free speech. people ought to be allowed to applaud if they want to. it was almost silly. >> rival mitt romney felt differently. his campaign sent around an old cover of the daily news calling the former speaker a cry baby. general election debates are also applause-free. so should gingrich go that far, he'll have to draw his energy from somewhere else.
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for "cbs this morning," whit johnson, washington. let's talk more about the power of applause with chief washington correspondent and host of face the nation, bob schieffer. good morning. >> good morning charles. glad to see you. >> round of applause. >> weigh in on this, mr. schieffer. >> of course, it makes a difference. i mean, i would point the latest example of that. look at last night where you have barack obama out there with people cheering and a hollering and stomping and getting up and down. then you switch to the rebuttal by the republicans and there you have mitch daniels, governor of indiana who made a nice little speech. but he makes it in an empty room. there is no way that that can compare to what you have just seen, whether you're a republican or democrat on either side. i mean, it's just no way that the person in the empty room really compete. people have been trying in these rebuttal speeches for years now
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to figure out how to overcome that. it's true. i mean, it does make a difference. whether that ought to be what presidential or primary debates are about, who gets the most applause, that's another question. i kind of think it ought to be about what the candidates are saying. but there's no question. there's no question. >> then there's that -- >> applause makes the difference. >> what do you think, bob, about newt gingrich's tactic or his threat that you know what, if the audience can't react, i'm not going to go. do you think he'll follow through on this. >> newt gingrich is the master of this sort of thing. i mean, look at what he did. this is really playing to his wheelhouse. when you can take the kind of stuff that they dumped on him in south carolina and dump it and turn it up side and make it come out as sort of a plot by the liberal media to protect barack obama, of course, he want to do that. of course, romney does not want do it that way. he knows that's not his strong suit. it's all part of the game here.
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>> do you think he'll follow through and not participate if the audience can't participate? >> no. >> that's kr we like schieffer. >> only take it so far. looking at what happened in the state of the union last night, making this case for the country to work together. john boehner told scott pelley that it could be a place where the president and i ought to come together. realistically, especially watching the applause last night in the chamber there, is that an option, that this could be one thing where we see democrats and republicans come together in an election year? >> i really think it's going to be very hard to do any kind of a major haul on anything, especially on taxes. i mean, this is what the campaign is going to be about. i mean, the republican case is that lower taxes help the economy and this is a way we get the economy growing. the democratic case is, look, republicans have stacked the deck against you. it's not a level playing field.
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we're going to change that because you're being unfairly treated. so i think, you know, depending on the election and how it comes out, that is how you're going to have tax reform or not. i don't think it will happen before we get to the election. >> when you look at that, that center of the debate about taxes and fairness on the part of the democrats, where is the referendum on what we have done or not done over the past three years, bob? >> well, that's going to be the republican case. this campaign and the line was drawn last night. this campaign is about the democrats will say, folks you're being unfairly treated and the rich people are putting a lot of money in their pockets and they're playing by the rules. but the rules are stacked against you. the republicans are saying, look, barack obama didn't just get to town last night. he's been there for three years and he has failed to fix a bad economy. that's what this election is going to be about, charlie. >> was last night the first time
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we heard the one million dollar figure? in the past i've always heard anybody making over $250,000 is considered wealthy in this country and 250 is different in charlotte, north carolina than in new york in terms of your status of living. for the first time last night, i heard the one million dollar figure and how that will be taxed. was that new, bob? >> basically, the president has talked about and there's been a lot of talk in washington about some sort of a surtax on millionaires. but this was the first time he's put any numbers out there like that and gotten this specific as he did. >> bob, always nice it see you. thank you. >> thank you. >> just a reminder that sunday bob will be in florida for face the nation. a very special sunday. becuse face the nation is debuting the new hour long format. the foc
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woodruff are both here to help us rethink some of the routine exams. nice to see both of you. >> good to see you. >> holly, this is in part two. we're learning that there's actually a pretty extensive lists of tests that we get done unnecessarily. >> that's right. the american college of physicians just contributed to an article saying that there were 37 unnecessary tests. what they're calling tests that we basically use too much. some of the top ones are pap smears. looking for cervical cancer. this is generally done yearly. they're suggesting they could be done every three years instead for low risk patients. >> every three years. >> i always thought you had to get it once every year because we know how much fun they are. it would be great if really we only have to get it every three years. i was raised, i have to get it every year, every year. >> that's correct. and most people are still doing that. but new research is showing that basically even if we get it every three years as a bottom
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line, as a population, we won't necessarily see more cervical cancer than otherwise. >> the same thing with the bone scans. big study out. most bone scans start at age 65. they look for osteoporosis. women get them every two years. but the new study says if your first bone scan is normal, you may not need another for 15 years. it's looking at things that are overused in people who are at low risk >> aren't we getting the tests because the doctor recommends it? i had a bone scan test at the age of 40 because my doctor suggested it. i never say could i be tested for anything. i'm so afraid of needles. don't we get the tests because the doctor recommends it? >> very much so. and we get the tests because the doctor recommends it and as a doctor, i don't do this unilaterally. these are recommendations that still come out of the national cancer institute and the u.s. preventative services task force. other things help guide us in terms of the direction we should be going with testing.
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but this recent research is saying, maybe we're doing a little too much. >> of course, until the recommendations change, i'm not going to change in my practice either. >> i think too as an advocate for yourself, my mother is from the era where doctors were gods. anything that they said to do, you would do. i think as a woman today, because we are faced with sitting here at 50, i've got bone scans, pap smear, ma'am owe, what's right. what's not. that's where you need to become a partner with your doctor. holly, you're my advocate, what do i need? >> today, different from a couple generations ago, i love for my patients to be educated and i love them to say i read this on the internet, i'm interested. is this something i need. then we can figure out what screening tests they need for them as individuals. >> how often do you really quickly, we're short on time. how often do your patients question a test you recommend? >> it depends on gender. women love to be screened. men hate it. >> really sm.
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>> women pretty much say, get tests for everything. i mean, send me everywhere. i want to know. men are just like can i leave yet? >> why am i here? my wife made the appointment. >> the bottom line, we should check about the test. really make sure that it's something that you need. i'm still thrown by the pap smear thing. >> ask your doctor what you need and why you need it? >> thank you, dr. phillips ziefrnl when we return, lee will be with us with an incredible store of a couple rebuilding their marriage after one of them literally forgot everything. >> wow. a look ahead at solar flares that can trigger incredible light shows. look at that. it causes a lot of trouble here on earth. you're watching "cbs this morning." healthwatch sponsored by caltrate, it helps keep women
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♪ nice picture there. the biggest solar storm in eight years just hit earth giving canada and scandinavia a beautiful show. experts worry about a serious impact. >> shedding light on a geomagnetic blast that could knock out power and satellites. serious stuff. >> that big cloud. >> while scientists were keeping a watchful eye on the most powerful solar storm in years, people lucky must have to live in northern lat tuds were able to watch the storm blow by. the spectacular northern lights all around the top of the earth. solar particles colliding with the earth's magnetic field created an aurora borealis out of this world. while the northern lights were visible with the naked eye,
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scientists within the beginning of the storm with satellites. this massive solar flare that erupted sunday from the sun's surface spewed a vast cloud of protons, electrons and atomic particles, a billion tons of charged particles hurdling toward earth at millions miles per hour. >> when we see four million miles per hour, we take in the. >> he's monitoring the storm from the space weather prediction center in boulder, colorado. >> this is the largest radiation storm we've seen since october of 2003. >> it forced some utilities to boost power to compensate for electrical interference. it interfered with some satellite transmissions and forced some planes to reroute because of radio interference near the north pole. >> there's a big cloud that this radiation storm is long lasting. these effects don't come around often, but had they do, you have to live with them for several days. >> probably not a problem for
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northern sky watchers who just might get one more night of this. bill whittaker, cbs news, los angeles. it certainly doesn't get old watch those pictures. >> extraordinary. >> it really is. speaking of a little flair, emmy rossum is lighting up the green room. she stars in "shameless." she'll be with us at the table just ahead. stay with us. you're watching "cbs this morning." your local news is next. [ male announcer ] this was how my day began.
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welcome back to cbs had morning. last night on capitol hill, we all saw it. an emotional standing ovation for congresswoman gabrielle giffords. she will officially resign her seat today to continue the difficult recovery from her brain injury. >> it is a long journey for the patient an the spouse. our lee woodruff knows about that. this morning she has the story
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of another special couple. >> ran fast through. here come the other goat. >> the romance of joan and scott was all-american. a football player and a gymnast. they fell in love as teenagers. college sweetheart. >> at 18 he was the big man on campus. it was fun to be with this big secure guy and he was a lot of fun with me. i just appreciated his humor and strength and courage. >> after college, scott played in the nfl. married joan and they welcomed two children, grant and taylor. >> he worked as a pilot and started an aviation company providing the family with a comfortable lifestyle. but three years ago a freak fall at a workplace bathroom erased his lifetime of memories. his football career, his family and his 25-year marriage. trauma to scott's head caused retrograde amnesia. >> do you remember meeting jill. >> in the hospital. >> but not when you first met her in college?
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>> no. >> do you remember your wedding day? >> no. >> do you remember when grant was born? >> no. >> scott lost the meaning of simple words. joan lost the man she had married. >> you don't have that mate who has always had your back, who always championed you. ha did that feel like inside as his wife? >> lonely. i didn't have my best friend to turn to. i didn't have someone that shared those feelings of loss. >> now she's dealing with the death of a husband but yet i'm sitting right next to her. she could have very easily left. >> struggle to regain a life together was often painful. not without humor. a friend joked about joan's chance to reprogram her husband. >> tell him you go to the spa every friday. tell him that you never clean your house and that he cleans the house and that he does all the cooking and everything. so i mean, we're laughing. so see kind of just out of the blue just said what if he
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doesn't fall in love with you again? it just stopped me in my tracks. i was so caught up in the care taking and the juggling the kids that i never thought that he wouldn't -- that there's a possibility that he could say, i want to date again. >> so when you're driving your husband around teaching him what life is like in a marriage, how hard is it to be sexy? to feel sexy? >> it's tough because it's almost last on the list. even though i'm exhausted and i wanted to cuddle up with my husband and have him put hayes arms around me and court me. >> does matter if he loves you the same? >> some days. some days it still hurts because that history isn't there. and we've been through so much that it's hard that he doesn't know those times. >> sorry. >> take a second. >> scott may never get his old
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memories back. but and joan are making new ones and falling in love all over again. >> the first time she went to work is when i realized that i was in love. when she left, i didn't know what to do. the dog sat at the back door so did i waiting for her to come home. i was lost. >> how do you describe what joan did for you? >> pretty much everything i am now is a result of joan. that without her, i know i wouldn't have been here right now. no way. >> lee woodruff is back with us. this is amazing. it's something i had no idea. you call it complicated grief. >> complicated grief is something that's so many americans deal with when they have a loved one with a degenerative issue or brain issue or spouses of veterans who returned home.
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your husband is there physically. so people will say he's here. you say but he's not the same. so joan feels like she doesn't have a right to grieve. >> does the quality of the relationship have to change? how do you feel sexy, i love the question. it's last on the list because you're a care-giver, your lover, you're wife and teacher. >> here's the man who doesn't remember anything. doesn't understand the meaning of the word wife. in fact, she had a cute anecdote where she would put him in front of the television and watch sopranos and king of queens and say this is what an alpha male is. maybe not so much for the sopranos with the weapon. here's what i want you to be. it he in turn would come back at night and say i saw attractive brunettes, angelina jolie. she died her hair.
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>> was this a hard story to do because of bob woodruff who almost lost his life covering the war for abc and you too have been through something similar. was it hard? >> it wasn't hard. i could understand where joan was coming from on so many levels. in that first year when bob was recovering and he had such an amazing recovery. i felt all those things. one of the first things i asked was forget that he's a journalist and all the things. will he love me? what if he wakes up after five weeks and doesn't love me anymore. that was going to kill me. he did though by the way. i think he still does. >> he does. >> charlie, you know him well. >> do you have advice on how care-givers can cope? >> i find it works to talk to people. you're not alone. one of the most isolating jobs. 45 million americans are care-givers in some way. >> such a great story. so powerful. >> amazing couple. >> talk about an inspiration. shift gears al little bit
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two more kids in your class you like. >> i don't like any kids in my class. >> two more you sort of like or can stand to be around. think are cool. think maybe might like you. hey, you're a good kid, deb. you deserve friends. everybody deserves friends. emmy rossum is starting her second season on the show time series shameless. we're glad to have here here this morning. nice to see you. >> nice to see you too. i think the title is appropriate for what you guys do. i watched it last season and started again this season.
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my mouth falls open with some of the stuff you guys do. >> it's a little outrageous. we have fun. >> your character fiona, give us a sense about who she is. your crazy gallagher family. >> fiona is basically raising her whole family. she's the oldest siblings, her dad is an alcoholic. he's mia and mom has had enough of the family. they're working class, working hard to make ends meet. fiona has the responsibility of being mother to everyone, including her father, played by william h. macy. >> he's an incredible actor. what a great guy to work with. his character is out there, but endearing at the same time. >> he hits an all-time low every single episode. you think i can't believe he's going to murder that woman or -- >> then he does. >> he does. yet he thinks he's really doing it for the best reasons and his family takes the brunt of all his miss behaving. it's definitely rough on the family.
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>> everybody in a hit show says we're like family, we all get along so great. everything is wonderful. but i really feel something about you guys that it's really true. i read that every sunday night the whole cast gets together at -- >> at bill's house. bill macy and felicity huffman. we'll watch it together. she makes a roast chicken. if the kids are there, we cover their eyes during the naughty bit. we're a cable show. >> right. >> it really is good. at the beginning of the show, when we rehearsing, i'm an only child. the produce other gave me $80. said here's a minivan take these kids to putt putt. feed them, change them. deal with then. also, deal with bill macy. it was that kind of idea. i got thrown into it pretty quickly. >> i'm fascinated by only children. charlie rose, by the way, is an only child. i'm wondering, was it hard for you to play nicely with others, number one. number two, did you grow up thinking i wish i had a brother or sister? >> i always wished i had an
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older brother which would be tricky my mom said. i always wished i had a bigger family. coming into this show, i immediately bonded with everyone because i think i really craved that. >> this has to be for you too, such a departure, clearly not an only child, the character that you play, but it's different from people associate you with. your incredible singing voice, phantom of the opera, all of those things. for you as an actor, what do you love about this role? >> i had to fight for the role. i definitely wasn't an obvious choice to play fiona gallagher. it was really so much fun to get the role and fight for it. she is so gritty and so fun. as an actor, it really takes all the glamour out of it. when you want to be an actor, you want to tell stories. that's what we get do. >> and stretch yourself a little bit too. she sang the star spangled banner. they wouldn't let you use your voice. >> she was wrapped in a human pretzel in her underwear. that wasn't --
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>> impressive. >> they don't want you to sing and dance because you can do both so well. i remember you as christine in phantom of the opera. i love that movie. you were nominated for a golden globe at 18. when you look back at that, how old are you now? >> 25. >> still a baby. when you look back on 18 become nominated for a golden globe, is that an out of body experience that night. >> it was. the whole thing was overwhelming and glamorous. i don't think i could connect to the enormity of the situation. i was overwhelmed and i think i had mono during the golden globes. this show is so gritty and so much more, i'm just in my body playing the character. it feels really good. it's fun. >> i'm curious about your background. you're at 25 in hollywood. a lot of people haven't survived so well. we never hear stories about you getting out of the car, you're always wearing your panties apparently. there's some people that get out showing everything, we never
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hear drugstore is about emmy rossum. we never hear about abuse. >> or you just don't hear about them. no. i don't know. my mom was really strict when i was growing up. it was always like, be careful who you surround yourself with. she was protective. i guess i always kind of gravitated towards -- i'm a homebody. >> what does she think of you playing fiona, shameless. >> she knows it's a character. she understands that it's fiona doesn't wear underwear that's okay emmy always does. >> come back and see us again. >> thank you so much. you can catch shameless sunday nights at 10:00, 9:00 central on show time. most of the nominees are not box office hits. that could all change now that they are nominees. we'll look at how a nomination and april win can translate into major dollars and cents for the studios. stay with us. this is "cbs this morning."
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face me. i need to see you square on the whole time. i got to come up with the questions too? >> the help is one of the nine oscar nominees for best picture. as a nominations were announced yesterday, we were wondering, how much money is an oscar really worth to the studios? >> media critic ken auletta knows a lot about the movie business. good morning, sir. >> bless you. >> bless you, sir. >> bless you. >> nice to have you. we hope you'll be coming here very often. >> too early, charlie. >> you cynic, aren't you?
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there is this. studios capitalize on oscars. what does it mean for them financially and how do they use their own money to get the results they want? >> well, you look at the papers this morning. every movie that's been nominated has an ad saying nominated for fifa academy awards. so they use it as a marketing tool. it's a good one. studies show that after a nomination, a movie on average will get a jump from 22% in the box office. approximate it wins the oscar, it gets a jump of 15%. lots of movies got no jump at all. hurt locker won several years ago. it cost them $15 million to make the movie. it generated only $17 million at the box off. >> isn't that a bit of a cost with getting a nomination. studios spend an incredible amount of money making sure there's plenty of attention on that movie. >> it's a marketing ploy but
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bragging rights. it's not unlike journalists. if you win the pulitzer prize. you don't see it. if you read the bios of actors and actresses and directors, they say nominated for four academy awards. it becomes a thing to boast. >> i was thinking about slum dog millionaire. i had no desire to see it, but it got so much buzz, i had to see it. was glad i did. yesterday for me, ken, it was hugo which leads the pack with 11 nominations. you know, i like martin scorsese very much, but i had been reading about it. i don't think it sounds for me. after the no, ma'am nags yesterday and 11 of them, now i'm thinking i should go. >> are you recommending it? >> i have haven't seen it. but i am going to see it. i actually am seeing it out of sympathy. >> what do you mean? >> i admire his work. the movie cost over $100 million. i'd made much less than that. probably will not recoup its costs. so i want to -- >> buy a ticket to cut the
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costs. >> there is also this. the master at this of being able to sell because he knows the benefit of that. >> not just the benefit. but he knows how to sell. one of the things harvey does and he has two movies this year that are nominated for -- >> artist and marilyn monroe. >> he puts them out in the fourth quarter, so it's fresh in people's minds. if you think back, when he put out shakespeare in love and it triumphed over private ryan which was a better movie. >> many people still think -- >> chris licht -- >> harvey weinstein and his brother are like founders of companies. they love and passionately care about movies. they make them out of passion. they also make horror movies that make them a lot of movie. they're also as good as it comes at marketing. >> here's what i don't understand about that. they've been doing this for years. why hasn't anybody else learned
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the game they know? >> people don't want to spend the kind of money they're willing to spend. >> you heard it's a huge payoff. >> it may not be. >> hurt locker is more of an exception than a rule. >> crash. crash won an academy award and it didn't get much for -- >> you talk about the fourth quarter placement and when it comes out. is the studio doing itself a disservice by releasing a movie earlier in the year it may not get the buzz or the nomination and ultimately the money in the eyeball. >> it might be. but one of the things you do a movie is ready. this movie should be placed this weekend up against this other movie because it's in distinction. it's a distinctive compared to the other movie coming out that weekend. you basically schedule based on what other are doing as well. >> ken, don't you marvel. i never paid attention to the box office. i went to the movie. now even as a layperson, i hear people say how much did it make,
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did it clear $100 million. if it didn't, it's not a success. i'm amazed at how in the psyche it is even for regular people just going to the movies. >> the way the press covers it. >> that's true. >> every monday has with the box office. one of the misnomers here is that when it says the movie cleared $100 million. the movie studio didn't earn that much. that's the box office total. 50% of that goes to the movie theater and distributor. >> the other is promotion. >> right. so it's a movie that costs $70 million to make. then you have to add 30, $40 million in marketing costs. >> what movie did you like best this year? >> i haven't seen all nine that were nominated for best picture. i love "moneyball." >> too many movies. don't you wish it was back to five for best picture. >> it's about commerce. >> they're trying to get more --
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