captioning funded by cbs >> bye. good morning. it's thursday, january 26, 2012. welcome to studio 57 at the cbs broadcast center. i'm charlie rose. the father of an american aid worker tells cbs news, his daughter is okay after being held captive in somalia. john miller has dee tame. i am gayle king. the government pushes to help your school lunches, but critics say we're becoming a nanny state. more on that. oscar nominee, glenn close is here. a dust-up in the desert between the governor and president obama. we'll show you what really happened. plus, is senator marco rubio breaks down the gop race in florida. we begin with a look at

today's eye-opener as we do every day. your world in 90 seconds. just extremely excited that she was safe, out of there. >> family and friends anxiously await the return of jessica buchanan after a stunning somalia rescue by navy seals. >> it was the same special operations unit that killed osama bin laden. >> all nine suspects why killed. i was in the middle of a sentence and he walked away. >> jan brewer makes her point to president obama. >> she wrote about a meeting that the two had in the oval office. and the president took exception to it. >> i felt a little bit threatened, if you will. in the attitude that he had. i thought that he was thin-skinned. >> what he has done, his words and actions are so different, it's hard to believe sometimes. >> even when there's a fire inside mitt romney, it's a weird electrical fire. >> in a new interview, newt

gingrich said when it comes to sex scandals, he's not as bad as bill clinton. >> he knew he was lying under oath. i didn't do the same thing. >> after hearing this, bill clinton said you got that right and high fived every guy on earth. a strong storm threatens portions of the gulf coast this morning. >> all that matters. >> infrastructure minister has aid mted stealing lines from a hollywood movie. >> we have serious challenges to solve and we need serious people to solve them. >> on "cbs this morning." >> you're going to hollywood. >> you guys are here in hollywood right now. what do you think? it's a rat hole, right? welcome to "cbs this morning." we have new details of the navy seal rescue of two aid workers. one of them an american who was held hostage for nearly three months in somalia. >> this morning, american

jessica buchanan is still in africa where she is recovering. her grateful father tells us she's doing okay. senior correspondent john miller has the latest on the dramatic rescue mission. >> early wednesday morning, two teams of navy seals under the cover of darkness parachuted out of a c-130 transport plane to somalia. from there, they hiked two miles to app encampment where nine pirates were killed. the seal tam suffered no injuries. helicopters picked up the seals and captives and flew them safely to the african nation of djibou djibouti. >> the fact that they were able to get in, get both hostages out, kill all nine bad guys and not get an american killed is just a tribute to how good these guys realry. >> cbs news spoke to jessica buchanan's father john who spoke with his daughter tuesday night. she was emotional but good. she's got health issues, not life-threatening, she'll be

fine. she said daddy, i love you and i'll be fine. she was kidnapped along with paul hagen thisted. they reached out to the family through aid organization. the families use private negotiators working in tandem with u.s. officials to try and secure their release. buchanan's father told us the fbi were looking over their shoulder the whole time. they were efficient, kind they were on top of everything. new intelligence that buchanan's health has gotten worse prompted the decision to use military force. meanwhile, half a world away, president obama was preparing his state of the union address when he got word that seal team 6, the same team that had killed osama bin laden in may, had recovered the two hostages. following the speech, a white house staffer phoned buchanan's father and told him to wait for an important call. it was 40 minutes of not knowing what the call would be.

a guy came on the phone and said mr. buchanan, the next voice you will hear will be the president of the united states. i said okay. he said, john, this is barack obama. i've got really good news for you. your daughter jessica has been rescued and evacuated by our seal team and is on her way team. she's expected to be reunited with her father in days. her father says he's thrilled she's okay o. it sounds corny, but i really am proud to be an american. we are the greatest country in the world. >> john miller is here now along with former seal officer, the heart and the fist was a best seller last year. good morning. >> good morning. >> lots of reference to same unit, team 6. >> it's the same unit. everyone is trained at the same standards. you have several teams. whether or not it was the same personnel, we don't know. >> what goes into making this mission successful? >> well, jessica was taken

hostage last october 25th. from the moment she was taken hostage, planning would have begun for a rescue operation. over the course of the past few minutes, intelligence professionals have been trying to build a picture where she was and what her situation was. while operators would have been rehearsing and practicing various contingencies so they would be ready. >> the thing you worry most about is surprise. >> you're worried about surprise and spooed and violence of action. three of the key principles for any successful operation. >> john, eric mention a bit how all of these different camps, obviously, would be working together to plan this rescue. give us a better idea, the father said the fbi was looking over our shoulder the whole time. how do they all work together? >> at the beginning of a kidnapping case where you've got an american involved, the fbi comes in right away. the critical response team, brings in trained hostage negotiators and they are coaching the family or the

family's representatives. that's what he means by over their shoulder. as the kidnappers call what to say, what not to say, how to handle the conversations which nobody has much experience with. on the other hand, you've got the cia, the national security agency pulling in human intelligence, signals intelligence and you've got the national geospatial intelligence agency pulling in all the overhead, spy planes, satellites, drones and looking at that compound once somebody puts them on what passes for an address in somalia. then you are looking at pattern of life. when is it busy there? how many people are on o the property? do they have two-way radios? how are they armed? everything down to the last detail. the seals come into this with special forces, joint special forces command comes into this very early and all that information is passed around. you know, they're out building a mockup of this building, practicing this raid in real time in darkness. it's pretty interesting. >> is this the kind of thing that the president has to say go or would it be done by the

secretary of defense or someone lower down? >> i would very strongly suspect this was a presidential directive to execute this operation. it's an international operation. it is a high-risk operation because hostages are involved. this one happened to go very well. but there could have been severe consequences. i would be very surprised if this wasn't something the president said go. >> good to see you again eric. john and eric, thanks. president obama is out west promoting his state of the union proposals. he's making news for a confrontation with arizona's republican governor. norah o'donnell is in las vegas traveling with the president. nor after, good morning. >> good morning. the president was near phoenix to talk about manufacturing. it's what happened on the tarmac when air force one landed that now has everybody talking. arizona governor jan brewer got right to the point wednesday in a heated exchange captured on the tarmac of phoenix airport. >> could have been talking about

a lot of different thing. bottom line is, he generally wants to talk about amnesty and i want to talk about securing our border. >> but it's brewer's finger that has tongues wagging. >> they always say a picture is what it is. i must say, i was not hostile. i was trying to be very, very gracious. i respect the office of the president. and i would never be disrespectful in that manner. >> brewer took a different tax on the record with greta van sus stern. >> he immediately took umbrage if you will with my bookie wrote, scorpions for breakfast. was somewhat of disgruntled if you will about the way he was portrayed in the book. i don't know why he was surprised by my book. but he evidently is and he's very thin-skinned. >> the president and the governor have a history of strained relations and evolving explanations. here's pruer following a 2010 white house meeting.

>> we just completed our meeting this afternoon. it was a very cordial discussion took place. >> a year later in her book, she recalled that same meeting quite differently. it was as though president obama thought he would lecture me and i would learn at his knee. he was patronizing. last january the two put aside their differences at this meet. it doesn't look like they'll be making up any time soon. the president said later, he'd be glad to meet with governor brewer again but he couldn't resist the opportunity to point out that he thought her book inaccurately described that last white house meeting they had in 20101. charlie and erica? >> is this the end of this? >> it may not be. certainly, the president is going to be returning to arizona because even though it's a red republican state, the political advisers think it can be a battleground state in 2012 because of the huge hispanic

growth in part. what's this trip about, after the state of the union, the president is hammering home the themes of the state of the union. >> that's right. he's going three days, going to five different swing states or battleground state. yesterday talking about manufacturing and jobs a key part of his state of the union address. today, he's talking about clean energy at a ups facility in las vegas. tomorrow it's education. hammering all of those themes. charlie, make no mistake, he's also talking about income inequality, fairness and trying to draw a razor sharp distinction with republicans, especially mitt romney. >> norah, thanks so much. with less than a week to go shall the race for florida's republican primary is tighter than ever. both of the top contenders are targeting voters. >> jan crawford is in miami this morning. good morning. >> good morning, erica. that is right. romney and gingrich are battling out for the hispanic vote which could be decisive in this

critically important state. it took an ugly turn yesterday as the issue of immigration came up gingrich started the slug-fest sounding incred lus that romney would say that illegal immigrants should self-deport. in other words, leave on their own. >> i think you have to live in a world of swiss bank accounts and cayman island accounts and automatic 20 milli$20 million a with no work to have a fantasy this far from reality. >> romney fired back saying gingrich has supported the record that they will leave the country if denied work. >> i recognize it tempting to come to an audience like this and pander to the audience. i think that's unbecoming of a presidential candidate. >> both candidates know the stakes. the latest polls show gingrich closing in on what was a double digit lead for romney. they're separated by only two points and in a neck and neck race, hispanics, who make up 12% of the republican vote in florida, could be decisive.

gingrich yesterday went for the kill releasing a radio ad calling romney anti-immigrant. >> but it backfired. influential senator marco rubio scolded the former speaker for using what he said was inflammatory language. gingrich pulled the ad and later explained why he signed off on it in the first place. >> the idea that somebody would think about deporting grand fathers and grand mothers strikes me as fairly inhumane. that's how the ad was developed. >> romney says his focus is on people who come here legally and gingrich, he said, was over the top. >> there are differences between candidates on important issues, but we don't attack each other with those kind much terrible terms. >> the gloves have come off here. we can expect the slugging to continue tonight in yet another debate. as we've discussed, gingrich has used these debates to fuel his campaign, close the gap with romney. look for him to try to continue

to land some punches. >> jan x thanks. florida republican senator marco rubio is at capitol hill. senator, good morning. >> good morning. >> could you add to the feeling about this ad and whether it's behind you now? >> very simple. i was asked to comment on an ad i heard on the air. i didn't think it was accurate and i don't think it had a place in our campaign down there in florida. i think it's important to point out to people that florida is not like some of the other states. it's a swing state. whoever wins it, ron paul, rick santorum or mitt romney or newt gingrich, has to come back in the fall and win. i want to make sure we don't have candidates saying things that have to defend or clean up in the fall when we have to campaign in florida. i wouldn't characterize it as scolding. i was asked my opinion about an ad. i made my opinion. i think speaker gingrich made the right decision. i'm an admirer of him. he made the right choice. he has a positive message to offer, not just hispanics by the

way, all americans and floridians. i en urge tim to do that. are they leading towards romney or gingrich in. >> i don't know. i'm not a pollster. you probably know better than i do. immigration is a very important issue. but people should understand that for the vast majority of days of the year, you don't wake up in the morning and start thinking about that. what's on people's minds is what's on your mind and my mind and everybody else's mind. how am i going to provide for my family, give my kids the chance to do things i couldn't do. that's the number one issue. what i encourage candidates to do is to speak to that. particularly, as they are doing, embrace the free enterprise system which made us a nation where those dreams have been accomplished in the history of the world. i think that's where we're different and we win. we're different than president obama and his party. >> you're a successful politician from the state of florida with a career there. you know floridians and are

rumored to be a potential vice presidential candidate. tell me where you think this race is today. you know floridians. >> close. that's why i wanted florida. that's why we all wanted florida in florida to move up in the primary cycle. what you're watching now is all the major issues that our country is facing are being confronted in florida and in a major way. you talk about the issues of immigration that are important to many americans of hispanic descent and the issues of the economy, the housing crisis. yesterday they had to give speeches on lat inamerica, talk about israel. they're all pertinent in florida. isn't that what the candidate should be talking about. >> you have spoken about this before. is there anything new to say, you will simply way to see if you're offered it? it's almost impossible to have a conversation with you without asking the question to see if anything changed. >> it's very flattering. the bottom line is i'm focused on two things. my job here in the u.s. senate. people forgot, there's major

issues here. secondly, i'll do -- i want to help the nominee. i look forward to campaigning around the country. i don't think it's a vice presidential nominee, though. >> erica hill is with me. >> quick question. the most important issue to voters is how they'll provide for their families. which of the candidates has the best message and plan to help people in florida and around the country do that? >> nice try. but i'm not endorse -- let me tell you something, all the candidates, what i'm impressed by if you go back to last summer when they started this process and where they are today, you have seen them grow which is why the campaigns are such a good experience. so i think they all are offering good plans. i hope they'll focus on that. i get it. campaigns people try to draw distinctions. there should be boundaries and ultimately i think they're all offering concrete ideas. here's the bottom line. none of them are the current president who i know for a fact is taking this country in a very bad direction. >> you have called him, senator, divisive, what is it about this

president that you think is divisive? >> did you see the state of the union speech where he -- >> indeed. i saw him honoring the military of america and other things where we should be coming together. >> that part everybody agrees with. what about the part -- not just the state of the union but consistently in his career, the only way that some people in america can be better off -- it's not true to the heritage. >> we're up against the clock. hope you'll understand. >>

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we will take a closer look at this in the next hour. a dallas morning news headline says perry job approval drops. rick perry dropped out of the presidential race last week. more than half of texas voters say perry should not run for another term as governor in 2014. his approval rating now lower than president obama's. the miami herald reports on a court hearing. a panel of judges will decide if a group of retired pro football players with brain damage can sue the nfl for damages. check this out from the new york times. a man is selling a 2005 chrysler 300 on e-bay saying it used to belong to president obama. he wants on opening bid of $1 million. pretty big markup over the original price which was just over $23,000. from barcelona to boss wan, members of congress are traveling all expenses paid. we'll investigate who is doing the funding and who is doing the

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welcome back to "cbs this morning." >> since the great recession began, many americans cut back on their travel. members of congress, however, still globetrotting. in many cases, other people are paying for it. the question here, are they breaking any rules? investigative correspondent cheryl at ki son takes a closer look at a story you'll only see on "cbs this morning." >> last february shall the house of representatives had just slashed 60 billion in spending. there were threats of a government shutdown and what did some members of congress do next? they jetted off to puerto rico. 13 of them to the intercontinental san juan resort and casino. most took spouses and children. all expenses paid thanks to a private nonprofit called the aspen institute. according to a new report, congress members took 1600 educational trips like these in 2011. all sponsored by private nonprofits and foundations

raising lots of questions about why they're taking so many trips and who benefits from them. jacque freedly, the public interest group that compiled the report said the trips cost $5.8 million last year. >> when the private interests are taking members of congress and staff on the trips, they are definitely showing only one side of the story. >> freedly said it violates the spirit of reform made in 2007 after jake abramoff. -- groups that don't lobby can still fund trips. jim clark represents many groups that pay for congressional travel. >> whether that's overseas in afghanistan or if that's overseas seeing some new technology or something that's going to help us, they should be involved there. >> the aspen institute which sponsored the puerto rico forum and spent a half million dollars on congressional trips to see vienna, canada and barcelona

told us it education members of congress, builds relationships in civil discourse and accepts no corporate or special interest funding. unlike the aspen institute, foundations or other groups that do have corporate or lobbyist ties are paying for some trips. >> lobbyists found the foundation. they sit on the board of the foundation. because that foundation itself does not lobby, it's allowed. >> is that a distinction without a difference? >> it could be to some people, yes. >> one example he gives is the group that broke the all-time record or spending in a single year. the american israel education foundation. $2 million for 145 trips to israel. they don't lobby. but they share offices, a phone number and p.r. person with a giant lobby called the american lsh israel public affairs committee. when we asked them about it, no government money pays for the congressional trips andy verse views are presented they told us. >> groups that loib and

corporations are the middlemen or foundations that are set up that then do pay for the congressional travel. critics say that's skirting the intent of the rules. >> i'm not going to defend that practice. what i'm going to say, it seems like it is what the law allows. if that's not what congress' intent is, they should review their processes. >> looking at all types of privately funded congressional travel, it was up from the year before. the seven most frequent flyers are all democrats. jim mcdermott led the way with ten. sin will most expensive trip is john carter. they went to africa and botswana. the biggest total bill goes to democrat jim cooper. his six privately funded trips including barcelona and india totaled more than $47,000. carter told us the africa trip was so expensive because he had

to fly from afghanistan where he was on a work trip. the other members we spoke to assured us the trips were educational and in full compliance with ethics rules. >> sharyl attkisson is with us now. welcome. tell me whether you think congress will do anything about this? >> they have a chance to revisit ethics rules. let me emphasize, they make their own rules. if they don't see a problem with privately funded travel, they won't do anything about it. >> will they in fact with the pressure that public attention can bring look at it again? >> it's hard to tell. the only thing that makes them want to change things is a big scandal or huge amount of public pressure. there hasn't been the upswell like during the abramoff scandal. we'll have to see how it gets. >> what the connection between travel and what happens in congress. >> it's hard to draw a direct line. one thing that was told to us, a staffer who was at a foreign country, treated well by a

group, said upon her return, she made sure her member goes in for a vote even though she has to pull him out of a meeting. it has influence on the members. >> there is good information and some information that you can use from these trips that might lead to you have a better look at legislation? >> absolutely. they may get one side of an issue, but get edge indicated on something they wouldn't otherwise hear about. tensions rising between the west and iran. lara logan is here to talk about that. also, a call for negotiation. you're watching "cbs this morning." [ male announcer ] what makes the weekends so memorable?

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look at iraq. through the power of our diplomacy, a world that was once divided about how to deal with iran's nuclear program now stands as one. the regime is more isolated than ever before. leaders are faced with crippling

sanctions and as long as they shirk their responsibilities, this pressure will not relent. let there be no doubt, america is determined to prevent iran from getting a nuclear weapon and i will take no options off the table to achieve that goal. >> president obama mentioning a serious issue in his state of the union address. tension has been building now for weeks between the u.s. and iran over iran's nuclear program. >> iran is threatening to close the strait of hormuz and choke off oil exports as a protest. iran's president is ready for new talks this morning. we want to look at the key issues with chief correspondent lara logan in washington. good morning. >> good morning, charlie. >> does this mean that the iranian president believes that sanctions and covert action are having an impact and, therefore, iran is hurting or is it simply one more move to delay and delay and delay?

>> you know, charlie, it probably means both of these things. at the same time, the iranian government wants you to believe that sanctions are not having any impact and never will, clearly their currency has been in free fall. it dropped 350% in value. there's always a reason they want to come to the table. if you look at the history, they do this over and over again. they're masters at buying more time, giving their allies just enough to keep resisting completely comprehensive sanctions. they've got china on their side and russia on their side. they're masters at this game. it probably doesn't mean anything really significant. >> what about the impact of the covert action, the killing of nuclear scientists, of the killing of the military officer, if that in fact was done by source outside of iran? >> well, you're absolutely right, charlie. this was one of the most fascinating aspects of what's going on in iran. there was the explosion at the

iranian missile base last year. there was a computer virus that really set the nuclear program back significantly. and you know, this clearly demonstrates that nobody, somebody definitely doesn't believe that sanctions alone are enough to prevent iran getting a nuclear weapon. and that certainly has an impact. some people argue that it can make the iranians buying together and resist and can backfire or it can strengthen iranian commit am. the counter argument is that iran seems pretty determined and they've shown how committed they are. >> the interesting question is when will the united states or israel make a decision that sanctions and covert action in whatever form, has not achieved the results and they crossed the red line, when is that going to happen? >> well, you know, because most people believe that you can't prevent iran from getting a nuclear wep on, you could argue that they will reach that at some point. they're going to reach that

conclusion because iran is going to keep taking steps and move forward. unless they can be absolutely con v convinced that they're not doing that, at some point that decision will be clear. the other thing that could happen, that could intervene along the way is that everyone seems to be set on a path. there is a fear that something random, some act could escalate the situation completely. something that people are not expecting. that could drive united states or israel to action. clearly, israel has far greater incentives to act here than the u.s. they want this to be everybody's problem. not just their problem. >> erica? >> how much does the global community feel that it is everybody's problem or are they in some ways happier to sit back and let israel an the u.s. deal with it? >> as with everything, erica, every country has its own self-interests at heart and first and seems to put that ahead of everything else. so people like the chinese who get a huge amount of oil from

iran are much more reticent about applying sanctions. russia who is interested in undermining u.s. power and maintaining its close relationship with iran, they play their own game as well. the strength of sanctions clearly depends on how much you can get the world to stand together. it definitely does have more impact the more countries that are enforcing that. the less avenues for iran to go around those sanctions. make them more effective. but at this point, it is not a unified world. it's not a unified global community. iran has significant allies. that's going to keep undermining the sanctions program. >> thanks,

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got rid of one rule from 40 years ago that could have forced some dairy farmers to spend $10,000 a year proving they could contain a spill because milk was somehow classified as an oil. with a rule like that, i guess it was worth crying over spilled milk. >> i can tell you from experience, the worst part isn't the crowd's reaction. it's the wife's. [ laughter ] you know, that face says, told you that wasn't funny. every wife knows that. >> he was right. >> he was absolutely right. welcome back.

i'm gayle king. he did have good timing. >> you have to admit the joke w -- the school rules say the federal government is acting like a helicopter parrot. >> critics say it's constantly hovering, trying to protect us from everything that might be bad. whit johnson looks at the controversial new rules and a campaign led by first lady michelle obama. >> lunching with elementary students in virginia, the first lady indulged in turkey tacos with brown rice. >> does everybody have some veggies? >> joined by rachael ray, mrs. obama launched a school lunch overhaul unlike any other. >> we have a right to expect that they won't be eating the kind of fatty, salty, sugary foods that we're trying to keep from them when they're at home. >> the new school lunch standards require more fruits and vegetables, whole grains, skim milk and less of the bad stuff like saturated fat and

sodium. pizza and french fries manage to survive. according to the cdc, 17% of children and adolescents are considered obese. triple the rate from one generation ago. many see the changes as necessary but the obama administration has fought an uphill battle against conservatives who consider the new rules an overreach of government. >> our first lady. we can't leave what our kids eat up to their parents. >> sarah palin used the term nanny state. >> who should be maybing the decisions what you eat and school choice? should it be government or the parents? it should be the parents. >> efforts to curb the obesity epidemic led to game changing laws across the country. a ban of happy meal toys in san francisco. calorie count menus in new york. the 32 million children who require school lunches in the u.s. >> you actually need breakfast

and healthier foods to function your brain and body. >> and hungry for something else. >> for "cbs this morning," whit johnson, washington. and celebrity chef jose andreas is working with mrs. obama on the anti-obesity campaign and joins us this morning. hello, chef. i guess can we assume no more tater tots. i love a good tater to the. >> the new news is that the first lady wants more vegetables, more fruits, more whole grains into every school. and the reason is obvious. >> that's what we all should want. why did it take so long do you think? i was shocked to hear that school lunches haven't changed in 15 years. >> believe it or not, one of the big issues really is the big agribusiness, the big food companies. they have a big interest to make sure that their products, what the kids eat is what they sell.

believe me, the big companies are not selling you apples and they're not selling you broccoli and they're not selling you fish. they're selling you the things that they never go bad, they can be on the shelves for weeks at a time. that's what we're filling our children, nutrients that is not necessarily food. >> so are you saying, you talk about the big companies, and obviously, you agree with the changes. you're working with first lady michelle obama. plenty of people don't agree with what's going on. are you saying there's a large lobbying organization helping put pressure on lawmakers to say step back? >> yes. just to make sure, it's not like i'm working within the system of the first lady. i'm one of thousands of chefs around the country that we are working, hands down, what the first lady, the white house and the administration wants to do. so yes, i mean, the simple issue here is that we have the interests of the children in the back burner. children are first. children should be fed in the

right way. 40% of the meals that children eat happens at the school. so it's very important that the foods we feed them at school are the right ones. if not, we'll not have a healthy country. >> you may have heard leading into this segment, sarah palin and rush limbaugh make the political point that parents should do this. these are good objectives, nonobese children, nutritious children and nutritious meal. but it's not the government's role it's the parent' role. >> this is the big republican lie. the republican lie will tell you, government should not be in charge of feeding america. people of america, the government is doing that right now. it's something called subsidies. they receive huge amount of subsidies. over 20 billion a year over the last five, six, seven years. so the government, because congress is creating that system, just is somehow

influencing the way america is eating? >> these important objectives, the health of the next generation. you could do something about the subsidies and still raise the question as to whether the government should be dictating rather than parents taking the lead role in the kind of food that their children eat. >> you're right, charlie. but here we need more than one angle to fight the obesity epidemic. parents are very important. but we need to train those parents. because you are a parent, doesn't mean you come with a title i know how to feed my children. >> yes. >> so here is parents are one part, the big agribusiness are one part. but sool school and the school lunches, it's important. we have many million children that they depend on the meal. sometimes children, the only meal they have during the day is the one they receive at the school. if that meal is not healthy, if that healthy is not fruits, vegetables, we will not have healthy children. >> in school, there's this idea

called in loco pair parentis. >> i know i didn't do nutrition right in my home. i'm paying for it now. you also say it could be a matter of national security which i think is an interesting point. >> i am not saying that. more than 260 generals and admirals are involved in this issue. they created a conversation and they call it mission readiness. they're asking congress to take the food and especially school lunches as a serious matter. why it's national security? because today the military is having a big, big problem making sure that healthy young americans will join the ranks of the army. if we don't have young healthy americans, we will not have the right army to protect america for the future. here you know the admirals are coming to save america in another --

>> another goal. >> we feel your passion. we feel your passion. thank you, chef. >> the passion of having a healthy america. we have to work -- >> thank you, chef. than jesus said the meek shall inherit the earth. so it's no surprise that being shy my be a good thing. even pope benedict is telling people to be more quiet. we'll show you why the controversy is the new hot thing.

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in today's healthwatch, the rise of the intro verts. most of the time the louder and more outgoing you are, the more attention you get. but now powerful people are reminding us to think before we speak. >> in fact, pope benedict, the pope himself said yesterday that silence is very, very important. it helps us to understand ourselves. writer susan cain here. her new book is called quiet, the powers of intro verts in a world that can't stop talking and jeff glor is here who also can't stop talking. >> for a little bit this morning. >> what's the driving thought here? >> this is something that i saw when susan's book was coming out. i picked it up and i couldn't stop reading it. i think it's fascinating. the idea that susan latched on to this.

i've been researching this book for six years. >> why do it? >> well, it was very clear to me, it's been clear my whole life because i'm an introvert. it's been clear to me that introverts live in a world where many of them are trying to pass as extroverts. the latest statistics show that a third to a half of all americans are introverts. it's because so many people are passing as something they're not. >> people think it's shy or lonely or you like being alone. you're saying that's not necessarily true. i'm curious jeff, kr it resonated with you? >> there's a misconception about this. there is an impression that an sbro vert is a hermit and someone who doesn't come out, constantly shy. that doesn't necessarily mean the case. as explained to me, it's the stimulation part of it. how much you prefer. i prefer a smart, quiet conversation like this as opposed to thumping in a club

and cocktail party where you can't move. i think susan prefers the same thing. >> that's right. there really is a conception that introversion is about being anti-social. i say no, it's a different way of being social. so an introvert would rather have a glass of wine with a close friend. >> i was going to make that point. most people say a perfect evening, they say a great dinner with friends. that's the kind of thing you're talking about here. >> exactly. >> look at this time magazine just out on the newsstands tomorrow. the power of shyness. are these things connected? >> that's an important question. shyness and introversion are different. shyness is about the fear of negative judgment. introversion is simply about a preference for a minimally stimulating environment. but both of them do tend to spring from an underlying temperament that is careful and sensitive and has all kinds of benefits that we tend to undervalue in this culture. >> what's the definition of

introvert? >> good question. >> it's fantastic question. it's somebody who prefers a quiet, more minimally stimulating environment. >> that would be me, would that be you? >> and the pope by the way. >> very, very interesting. and do you think that more powerful leaders are introverts or a different kind of leader? i thought that was interesting. >> it's very interesting. they're a different kind of leader. we tend to believe that it's very cold and gregarious but so many of the profound and transformative leaders in history and in business life are introverts. >> barack obama, mitt romney, ron paul, all introverts. >> that's right. >> newt gingrich you might not be surprised is an extrovert. >> if you look at obama and mitt romney, much of what they've done. much of what has enabled them to get to the place where they are today is their introversion.

they're both known for very careful and me fticulous planni of campaigns. they have cerebral styles. we're out of time. before we go back to gayle, this is interesting to me. are more women or more men introverts? >> that's an interesting question. there are slightly more men who are introverts, about 53% men and 51% women. >> take that, ms. king. >> charlie, i'm actually very shy. >> thank you very much good to see you guys. j.c. penney is ringing up new strategy. it's cutting prices on everything permanently. we'll find out if that's what shoppers really want. i'm thinking, yeah, we do. you're watching "cbs this morning." cbs healthwatch sponsored by new prego veggie sauce. the tasty way to get your veggies. [ thinking ] i wonder what other questionable choices i've made? [ '80s dance music plays ] [ sighs ] [ male announcer ] choose taste. choose prego.

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tag, i believe it is, will be that 40% off that fabulous price. then they'll have a different color, red, white and blue, one means, it's the twice a month sale. sort of the clearance. this is the lowest you're going to get. then they'll have monthly theme sales. in february it's val tiens. that's the problem. >> i am very confused. >> they say this is simpler. i'm reading his plans and it doesn't seem that simple to me. he being ron johnson the new chief executive officer. he's got a fabulous track record. let's see if he can sort of teach people this new system and get them to internal lies it or think it's another gimmick. >> who are they trying to get specifically? >> j.c. penney targets a middle american audience. it's kind of a punch line in some circles, in others a well-respected brand. kohl's, macy's has been successful. it's tough. >> it's the guy who came from target and apple.

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yesterday at all. welcome back to "cbs this morning." when people in florida argue over sports, it's usually about which college has the best football team. >> now florida lawmakers are taking on the pro franchises. in the report, it's all about money and an obscure law intended to help the homeless. in the sunshine state, pro sports are big business. pulling in billions of dollars each year from ticket sales and taxpayers whose money used to finance projects like this. $670 million marlin arena in downtown miami. a publicly funded baseball stadium that has taxpayers on the hook for everything from a parking lot to property taxes. but according to a little known florida statute, any professional sports facility can constructed with financial assistance from the state shall be designated as a shelter for the homeless. in the 23-year history, the law has never been enforced, that

angers florida senator mark bennett who sponsored a bill demanding that teams return the money if they can't prove they've been in compliance with the law. >> we should not be taking taxpayers' money to support these professional sports. the rule was you took the money, you were supposed to have use for a program for homeless people and you didn't do it. we want our money back. >> across the state, professional sports teams received over $270 million taxpayer dollars. lawmakers like bennett say teams haven't done anything in return. in the wake of rising ticket and parking prices, something needs to change. >> we're cutting monday r foi medicaid and education. cutting money for homeless programs and shelters and all these other things. we're saying you know what, maybe we should ask for the money back. >> in a statement, the miami heat spokesperson said that the american airlines basketball arena has never operated as a homeless shelter due to the intensity of arena activity and

physical layout. the fact that the arena is in a flood and evacuation zone. critics say the bill has little chance of passing. but the showdown over taxpayer dollars could have an effect on how new stadiums are built. for "cbs this morning," anna werner, cbs thus news, miami. shifting gears, husbands and wives nagging their way through marriage. it's a staple of tv sitcoms. >> come on, al, i want you to go with me. >> why? >> keep the men from leering at me. >> they're not leering at you, they're laughing at me, peg. >> honey, i really have to go. >> all right, peg. but i don't want to miss the game. >> we won't. we'll be quick. >> well, might have have been funny for the bundys, but it's no laughing matter for other

couples. wall street journal relationship columnist, elizabeth bernstein has a new article on nagging called meet the marriage killer. she's here with a merry, happily married comedian tom papa. i'm making an assumption there. >> yes, very happy. >> is your wife watching in. >> the happiest married man in america. >> there he is. elizabeth let's start with you. we've been saying all morning that nagging can be just as destructive as cheating. i just would like to respectfully disagree. when i heard that, i went, what, it didn't register with me. >> it's interesting, many marriages, many, many more marriages will deal with nagging. in fact, every marriage, infidelity is smaller. nagging, everybody is going to deal with nagging. that's the issue. it will bring down many more marriages. we roll our eyes when we think of it. but it brings down marriages if you don't deal with it. >> you say that nagging has gone multiplatform. >> this is the thing. it used to be, you'd ask your

husband to do something. but now, i can text him and then if he doesn't text right back, i'm going to e-mail him at home, work. i'm going to call him. he's got three phones. it can drive you knit. >> erica, you're a married lady. >> tom is a brave married man sitting with three women. i mean, look, part of it -- you brought it up in your columns. we talked about it in the green room. we need to know that things are going to get done. you get that right, tom? >> look, this is the problem. you get married because you think it's going to be all romance and there is that part of it. there's that romance and all that. but when you are in a marriage, what a marriage really is, you get involved with mortgages and all these taking care of pets and you're running really a thankless nonprofit organization. and you are business partners. when you are business partners, someone has to lead. the wife has to lead. it's her deal.

it's not a business that i want to run. it's not. so she's the boss. if you're in work and someone -- your boss tells you to do something, you don't say that's nagging and you don't complain to the boss. that's what your friends and dog is for. >> wait, wait. are you saying tom papa that men should listen to what their wives say. it's not nagging, it's simply helping the trains run on time and helping the greater good of the family? >> yes. >> i love you. >> it's the truth. >> i totally agree. >> don't fight it. >> listen, i'm sitting here as a divorced person. i was told that i could nag from time to time. but i believe that it was a friendly reminder, erica. it wasn't a nagging. when does it move from friendly reminders, i'll call it, to nagging? >> it's really your perspective. it's all annoying. it's always annoying. >> wait. >> but you don't say that to your wife, you don't say that to the boss. that's what your friends and dog is for. your wife complains and nags

you. you say okay, and you take the dogs for walks. i can't believe she's talking to me like that. the dog agrees. you walk into the house with the dry cleaning. you say here it is, your highness. anything else that i can do for you? i'm telling you, the whole thing runs great. you're not any happier. don't worry about that. >> but she is. >> she is. >> which in turn makes you happier. what kind of response have you had? we saw this column yesterday and we were all -- what have you heard from people in. >> it's interesting. i hear because it's a journal. a lot of men will write. the men will say here's the problem. no matter what i do, i'm wrong. that's the feeling that men have. no matter what i -- she asks me to do, i'm always in trouble. they say that. but i have a lot of men say, i learn to just step up. if i do it, then she won't nag me anymore. i learn to step up. >> do your job. >> are women the only one that is nag? don't men nag too? >> sure, for sex. they also -- they do nag. but there are reasons. women are more a tune, the bosses of the home and in tune

and got to get everything done. >> you're a guy. just like the -- at work, the boss will make employee of the month once in a while, tell you, you're doing a good job. you'll get that. >> i think, elizabeth, you said something helpful to people. the i and the you rule. could you just explain that for people. when you're in the middle of a conversation, whether you should use i or you should use you and things you should never say. >> exactly. this is over and over. this is a good way to have an argument. nagging is arguing. instead of saying you never take out the garbage, honey, you never do this. you say, i would love for you to take out the garbage honey and it's important to me, because it stinks. you want to put it on yourself and explain why it's important to you. i. >> the same way i talk to my children. you're like another child in the house. it really is. >> as long as you know that, we're all okay. >> thank you both. >> we will never forget her in fatal attraction.

you remember. that alex character that glenn close played. he she kept everybody shall men, from being cheater, cheater pumpkin eaters. that was one of her characters. she received an oscar nomination for her latest. she'll tell us about

thinking i might purchase a real business. >> ah, a business. fancy that. what kind of a business? >> perhaps a little shop. >> all right. what kind of a shop? >> i'm thinking maybe tobacco. >>. >> but a woman could serve at the counter in. >> yes, indeed a woman could.

>> did you recognize her? another year and yet another oscar nomination for the one and only glenn close. this time is for her performance in albert nobbs where she plays a woman posing as a man in 19th century ireland. >> it's been close to her heart for some 30 years. we're pleased to have glenn close here this morning. welcome. >> thank you. >> why this role was such a thing that you had to do? >> well, i first played albert over 30 years ago in a little off-broadway house in manhattan theater club. every night you had a very intimate relationship to what was going on stage and what people were feeling in the audience. every night the seemingly stim am story blind sided the audience emotionally. i love stories like that. that kind of build up on you and end up really making an emotional connection with an audience. that's what -- what i think

everybody wants is some sort of emotional journey. >> congratulations on your oscar nomination. >> thank you. >> please tell me you were awake and watching and you weren't sleeping and you had no idea or you didn't know it was oscar day. please tell me, glenn. >> i was actually having a lovely cup of green tea latte around the corner in the west village with my husband and we were talking about probably, you know, making fuel out of algae. >> you can do that, you know. >> as we all do. >> and then the phone rang and i was thinking about algae and all of a sudden it was oscar nomination. >> you've had a tony, you have emmys, but the oscar nomination, even though you've been nominated, it's eluded you. what does it mean in is there a part of you that thinks on the day of the oscar, please let them call my name, please? do you feel that? >> you know, i have never

allowed myself to buy into the winner/loser. >> you haven't? >> i haven't. because at that level, you know, to me -- >> everybody's a winner. >> everybody is a winner. i know that sounds unreal. but i really feel that. >> you talked about the emotional connection that really hooked you with albert nobbs and hooked the audience. you can see it in your performance. one of the things that was amazing to me, so much of what we get from you, the connection you seem to create is through your eyes and your face and not even your words sometime. but literally your presence on the screen. how do you perfect that part of your craft? >> i learned quite quickly the power of thought on film. particularly in what only film has, which is the close-up. the close-up is a moving, real time representation of some emotion going across a human

being's face. the greatest challenge for me to do a character like albert on film was to know that the close-up has the potential to look into your soul. this is a woman who has not allowed herself to look into anyone's eyes for 30 years. >> your daughter is in this too. >> yes. >> what was that like? >> well, you know, i'm very proud, actually. when people say oh, your daughter wants to be an actress, i feel like saying, you're talking about a professional of 30 years. i think i learned less by working with phenomenally gifted people and phenomenally generous and to not wish that on my daughter, would be -- it doesn't make sense. but the one thing that i worry about is how hard it is for your personal life. it's a terrible balancing act. >> could i just ask you, i know

wee got to go, about fatal attraction. to this day, i love the character alex. i saw the movie my husband, who is now my ex-husband. see what happened? do you still find women come up to you and say thank you, glenn, for that role. thank you, thank you. >> it's really interesting. it's mostly men that come up to me and say -- >> you're my nightmare? >> yeah. and you saved my marnl. >> mostly men? >> kr do you like so much, gayle? >> because i think it sends such a message for men in particular about how going outside the marriage is not a good thing. he thought it was going to be a one nightstand. or you'll end up many places you don't want to go. i think it was a great advertisement. i'm saying nothing personal about my own life here. but i'm just saying i thought it was a service to many people. that's all i'm saying, charlie rose. >> unfortunately, we have to leave it at that.

we're getting cued. >> i won't be ignored. >> that's right. >> thank you and good luck and congratulations. albert nobbs is in theaters now. >> she won't be ignored, charlie. gabrielle giffords is another extraordinary woman. we'll have a special look at the former congresswoman who has inspired so many after facing tragedy. you are watching "cbs this morning."

what a unique and moving moment it was on capitol hill wednesday. republicans and democrats gathered on the white house floor to say goodbye to gabrielle giffords. arizona congresswoman resigned yesterday to focus on her recovery from last year's shooting.

>> we wanted to show you some of the sights and sounds from a true profile in courage. >> i will step down this week. >> thanks for coming everybody. appreciate that. >> congresswoman gabby giffords has served arizona's 8th district with dedication and dignity. >> she has made this decision because she knows it's best for her. but it's really a selfless decision. >> gabby's courage and her strength and her down right fortitude are an inspiration to all. >> i'm so proud of you. >> sparkle in her eyes. she still has it. >> mr. speaker, the president of the united states. >> all ofs come to the floor today to salute her, brightest star congress has ever seen. >> the house of representatives

has been made proud. gabby, we love you. we have missed you. >> it will always be one of the great treasures in my life to have met gabby giffords and to have served with her. no matter ha we argue about here on this floor or in this country, there is nothing more important than family and friendship. >> so gabby may be leaving washington today, i know this woman won't be the last we see of her or mash. >> gabby, we'll be friends for life. for life. >> a house of representative honors one of its own. it's an interesting notion of there are moments when republicans and democrats can come together from the house speaker to one of the leaders of the democrats and debbie wasserman coming together to say there are times in which everything goes beyond politics. >> it was so good to see, you guys, one of my favorite moment was barack obama before the state of the union, had they did

that rocking hug. because it was a genuine tender hug. you never see that. >> interesting, too, two of the most poignant moments we've seen of congress coming together over the last few months. gabby giffords showed up for that first time to vote. and then when we saw her at the state of the union and to give her resignation. everyone calls her gabby. >> probably never seen -- i can't imagine a time in which there have been more tears, more congressmen and women than there was in appreciation of her. a great story as she goes for recovery. that does it for us. we'll see you tomorrow on "cbs this morning". we'll see you tomorrow on "cbs this morning". are a great day. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com

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