captioning funded by cbs good morning. it's wednesday, february 8, 2012. welcome to studio 57 at the cbs broadcast center. i'm charlie rose. rick santorum sweeps three gop contests last night. steve croft is here up early with an inside look at how "60 minutes" report changed the course of a congressional vote. i'm erica hill. authorities release 911 tapes from a frantic social worker left out of the home of josh powell. a showdown over whether u.s. special forces are spilling too many secrets. john miller has the story. i'm gayle king. what do you think penguins are doing in the middle of dubai. we'll get into that. gloria estefan tells us why 50 is not a big deal at all.

first, as we do every morning, we begin with a look at today's eye-opener. your world is 90 seconds. conservatism is alive and well in missouri, minnesota -- >> rick santorum three-state sweep. >> want to congratulate senator santorum, wish him the very best. we'll keep on campaigning down the road. >> three elections today. no delegates are awarded. it's a bigger waste of time than voting on "american idol." >> smell gasoline. he won't let me in. >> 911 calls revealed the panic as josh powell torched his own home. >> he blew up the house and the kids. >> the kids an the father were in the house. >> yes. he slammed the door in my face. >> going to go to the sbreem supreme court and win there. >> there is rational and legitimate governmental interest in protecting marriage between only a man and a woman. >> if you want to respect the sanctity of marriage, ban

kardashian weddings. overseas, it's reported that syrian troops are tacking a city for the fifth straight day. >> jet ought to be checked for wing cracks. >> karen handel has announced that she will resign. >> what was in the best interests of komen was for me too, to step aside. >> all that. >> baby boy chun chin weighing in at 15.5 pounds. >> do you love daddy? >> no. >> and all that matters. >> we got a ring ♪ >> i got two. >> on "cbs this morning." >> it doesn't matter if you won or if you lost. >> it matters. welcome to "cbs this morning." it took one night for rick santorum to become a player again in the republican presidential race. the former senator won all three

gop contests last night, including an unexpected five-point victory in colorado's caucuses. >> santorum won the minnesota caucuses by an 18-point harr gin and by 30 points in the missouri primary. santorum moves on with zero new delegates but a lot of momentum. jan crawford is with us. good morning. >> good morning, guys. where everyone who flat-out declared this was a two-man race between romney and gingrich, voters in three states said not so fast. not only did santorum win in missouri and minnesota, he won colorado. that was a state romney was expected to have locked up. >> conservatism is alive and well in missouri and minnesota. >> rick santorum was such an underdog that a week ago people were speculating he would drop out. last night he not only won, he blew out the competition. >> your votes today were not just heard loud and wide across

the state of missouri and minnesota, but they were heard loud and louder all across this country. >> the states were a bit quirky. missouri, for example, was basically a beauty contest with voters caucusing next month for real. still, santorum's strong showing is a huge blow to the frontrunners. especially newt gingrich. who has been campaigning as the conservative alternative to romney. when gingrich stumbles and voters nervous about his baggage, santorum assumed that title. gingrich finished no better than third. >> this was a good night for rick santorum. want to congratulate him. >> as big a win for santorum, it was a rejection of romney. he so far has not persuaded republicans he can carry the conservative message. >> appreciate all you've done to help. we've got a long way to go. >> but last night san tournament set his sights beyond his republican rival. >> i don't claim to be the

conservative alternative to mitt romney. i stand here to be the conservative alternative to barack obama. >> now, for santorum, who won the iowa caucuses, all these wins are a vindication of sorts. gingrich has been suggesting that he should quit this race so all those santorum supporters could go over to newt gingrich and gingrich would take on romney and win. but now santorum is the man with the momentum and it makes it harder to see how that gingrich comeback is going to work. >> jan, thank you very much. political director, john dickerson is with us now. john, good morning. >> good morning, charlie. >> how did santorum do it? >> he appealed to the core of the republican party and they've been consistently unsure about mitt romney. they've been looking for a place to land. they landed for a little while with newt gingrich. they have been shuffling around and like what rick santorum had to say and they turned out for him. >> the romney camp says we didn't focus on these and secondly, it's more defeat for newt gingrich than for us. >> there's an old line in

politics when you're explaining you're losing. they have to explain away these losses. they are right in that romney has a lot of money and he has an organization and he didn't play as hard in these states. but he is the one who is supposed to be taking on barack obama. he needs to be strong in his own party. these victories, by rick santorum showed that he's not strong in his own party, can't seal the deal with the core of that party. these doubts persist. so he's got a lot of work to do. >> where is the process now to select the republican nominee? >> rick santorum is now going to feel a lot of heat from the romney campaign and what romney has to do is what he did successfully after south carolina, which is get his campaign back together and it's going to be a battle between a conviction politician, santorum and a politician who has been -- whose biggest problem is people think he lacks conviction. >> how much will that rely on the money that romney has and the ads which seem to have done well in florida in. >> the good news for romney, in a sense they have planned for this. they've got a long campaign,

they are a cautious and smart campaign. so they have money and they have organization in future states. so they can ee rely on what they've built. there is scrambling to go on, for sure. but there's i lot in place for romney. santorum is scrambling. he'll get a lot of money. it's hard to take that money and turn it into an organization overnight. he had trouble after iowa. >> john, thanks. stock act. the bill to stop potential trading by congress. it became popular back in november. the house democratic leader has become a specific target of the legislation. congressional correspondent nancy cordes is on capitol hill this morning. nancy, good morning. >> good morning, erica. the stock act is really sailing through congress as a payroll tax cut extension and jobs bill remines mired in gridlock. the stock act passed overwhelmingly last week. late last night, house leaders released their version. but some aspects of it are bound to create controversy. >> the bill is passed.

>> the senate version of the stock act passed 96-3. house republicans hurried to finish their own version in time for a vote tomorrow >> it is unacceptable for anybody in this body to profit personally from nonpublic information. >> the bill's sudden popularity is amusing to congresswoman louise slaughter who first introduced the stock act six years ago and never got much support. >> what's driving it? >> 60 minute. i've never seen anything like that. the day after on the street people were asking me about it. >> house republicans say their bill will be even stronger than the senate bill, which explicitly bans members of congress and their staffers from trading on nonpublic information they gleaned through their work on capitol hill. it also requires lawmakers to disclose any trade over $1,000. and revokes the lawmakers' pension if they're convicted of a felony. here's where the bipartisanship ends.

on tuesday, house republicans announced they're adding a clause they call the pelosi provision. restricting lawmakers and their staffs from unfair access to initial public offerings or ipo's. the provision is a dig at house minority leader nancy pelosi. her husband's participation in an ipo for visa was highlighted in the "60 minutes" story. she denies there's a conflict of interest. >> i will hold my record in terms of fighting the credit card companies as a speaker of the house or as a member of congress up against anyone. >> pelosi's office adds that that was one of the largest ipo's in history. four million shares of visa were sold. her husband bought 5,000. nancy, thank you. we want to go back to steve croft, "60 minutes" story. it inspired the so-called pelosi provision. >> do you think it's all right for a speaker to accept a very

preferential favorable stock deal. >> we didn't. >> you participated in the ipo. at the time you were speaker of the house you don't think it was a conflict of interest. >> no. it only does if you decide you're going to have elaborate on a false premise. and that's that.e.- >> i don't understand what part is not true. >> yes, sir? >> that i would act an investment. >> "60 minutes" correspondent steve croft is here with us. good morning. >> charlie, nice to see you. >> reminds me the worst call you can get now is saying i'm steve croft on the line from "60 minutes." >> you have to build that up. you have to keep that an active proposition. >> what's going to happen to the pelosi provision when the house votes? >> i have no idea. -- well, i'm assuming it's going to pass. i think it should. it's a great addition to the bill. i don't think that people in congress in positions of power should be rewarded with the

opportunity to make huge amounts of money when they're considering legislation that may be -- company may be involved in. >> this very much changes things as to what congress people can do and what information they can share? >> yes. how it's ultimately enforced we'll see. there's still all sorts of problems with the disclosure laws as you know. they have to report their stocks every 30 days, which is a huge improvement. it used to be only six months. it makes it easier for reporters to find out what they're trading. we'll see if that's in the senate provision. some people of the house provision, some people have said it needs to be longer. >> may end up in a conference taken. >> you mentioned too the need for enforcement, which is still up in the air. you got a pretty overwhelming response from this. when you heard from the american people who watched this piece, your piece in november, is the stock act that we're seeing now

what they wanted in terms of changes in. >> think think they were outraged to find out that members of congress really weren't subject to insider trading laws. i think people have been so dissatisfied with the performance of congress, if you look at their approval ratings, i think that the people are just angry that people -- there were a different set of rules for them. >> when you do a piece like this, it stirs up washington, what's the cons kwebs? what happens? are there a lot of people calling saying, boy, do i have a story for you or people saying i don't want to be seen with you, croft. >> the reaction is funny. the day or two after we did this story, i had an interview scheduled with a member of congress and he called back and said, i'm not doing this in my office. i don't want to be seen with steve croft and "60 minutes" on the hill. so we did it in a hotel room. it changed within a matter of days. when everybody said look, we need to do something about this and then, of course, everybody jumped on the bandwagon. >> thank you very much, steve.

great to see you on the program. >> great to be here. >> this sunday, they'll look at adele at the grammys. that's sunday here on cbs. turning to washington state now, where police rereleased chilling 911 tapes from the day josh powell killed his two sons and himself. the calls were made by a social worker who dropped off the children and who soon found herself pleading for help. >> i'm on a supervised visitation for a court-ordered visit. something weird has happened. i'm really shocked and i could hear one of the kids crying. but he still wouldn't let me in. >> desperate for help and sensing danger, social worker elizabeth griffin hall pleads with a 91 operator to send someone quickly. >> i'd like to pull out of the driveway because i smell gasoline and he won't let me in. >> inside the house, josh powell is brutally attacking his children. a frustrated griffin hall waits helplessly for authorities to arrive. >> okay. how long will it be?

>> i don't know, ma'am. they have to respond to emergency, life-threatening situations first. >> it could be life-threatening. he went to court on wednesday and he didn't get his kids back. this is really -- i'm afraid for their lives. >> moments later, powell torches the home as an explosion rocks the neighborhood. >> he exploded the house. he blew up the house and the kids. >> the kids and the father were in the house? >> yes. yes. he slammed the door in my face. i kept knocking. i thought it was a mistake. i kept knocking and then i called 9-1-1. >> powell's sister also calls 911 after getting an e-mail from josh powell. >> he said something about he can't live without his sons and i'm not afraid of him. he's never hurt me. i'm afraid of seeing something. i don't want to see it. >> yet, as she spoke, josh powell and his two sons had already perished in the fire. >> we turn now overseas.

syria's president now says he wants to hold talks with opposition forces. but syrian troops attacked a city for the fifth day in a row. activists report at least 20 people were killed. with syria at the brink of civil war, it's a dangerous time for anyone to be there, especially outsiders. clarissa ward, one of the few western reporters in syria filed this report from a rebel camp. >> we attended a military training session for the syrian liberation army. the rebel force that we have been staying with here. what was most striking is these men are not former soldiers, necessity do not have military expertise. many are not physically fit. they are farmers and workers. they have enormous amounts of courage and spirit. but really, very little military experti expertise. it's important to remember that this is a revolution that is being on a shoestring. we visited a hospital which is just a few rooms.

it's one of the only places where people who are injured or affiliated with rebel forces can go for any treatment. they have only the most basic of medical supplies there. when we visited, we saw one man donating blood into a bag. the blood was quickly tested to see if the blood type matched and then immediately injected into another man. so these men on the ground here, these rebel forces but also these civilians are in desperate need of humanitarian aid, of military expertise and they say most importantly, of international support. clarissa ward for "cbs this morning." syria. >> this morning, supporters of proposition 8, california's ban on same sex marriage want the supreme court to decide the issue. yesterday a federal appeals court ruled the voter approved ban is unconstitutional. same sex marriages, though, will not resume immediately in california. the court gave proposition 8 supporters time to appeal. it is time to show you some of this morning's headlines from around the globe.

we begin in britain where the guardian reports the last known world war i veteran has died. florence green joined the women's royal air force a few months before the ward ended. she died two weeks short of her 111th birthday. here in the u.s., turns out we just had the fourth warmest january on record according to usa today. the average temperature for the entire country during the month, 36.3 degrees which is of course above freezing. it's also 5.5 degrees warmer than average for january. the new york times reports on the high cost of those single serving coffee machines that are so popular. when you add up the price of those coffee capsules, works out to more than $50 a pound. >> ouch. according to the new york post, bradying is the new tebowing. this photo of patriots quarterback tom brady after losing the super bowl is going viral. fans are posting photos of themselves, posing the

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mitt romney has been very dominant lately. despite the occasional foot in the mouth like this humorously preposterous statement about our national anthem. >> i love the hymns of america. of course, our favorite is the national anthem. we're the only people on earth that put our hand over our heart during the playing of the national anthem. >> we're the only people on earth. i didn't know that. neither did any of the people in italy or guatemala or croatia or somali or japan or the ukraine or venezuela. >> quick trip around the world with jimmy kimmel on this wednesday morning. >> be careful when you say we're the only people who do anything. there may be somebody somewhere in the world who does it.

special operations as we changed course here, special operations have been making headlines lately. but is that putting troops in danger? >> one retired general is fed up telling the special ops commander it's time to get out the media. we'll ask john miller about that. stay with us. you're watching "cbs this morning." your local news is next.

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a zoo in a japan wanted to train its workers to deal with an animal escape. it used this rhinomade of paper mache. we can tell you there's no paper mache animals were harmed in the making of this video and we welcome you back to "cbs this morning." >> it's a good thing they did this exercise. that rhinomoved fast. do they move that quickly in real life. i'm not sure. we have heard a lot about seals and special operations forces that they've been carrying out spectacular missions like the killing of osama bin laden. >> critics say we're hearing far too much about the top secret operations. senior correspondent john miller reports one critic went very

public on tuesday. >> u.s. special forces go by nicknames like the silent warrior or the quiet professionals because most of what they do we never hear about. so yesterday admiral bill mcraven a former navy seal who heads the u.s. special operations command found himself under fire for being too up front about the secret operations like the killing of osama bin laden or the recent rescue of hostaging in somalia. >> you've been splashing all of this all over the media. i flat don't understand that. >> the man taking on mcraven is 85-year-old retired lieutenant general james vaut. he led green beret operations and the delta force operation to rescue hostages held in the u.s. embassy and iran in 1980. >> you're going to fly in and he's going to shoot down every helicopter and kill every one of your seals. now, watch it happen. mark my words. get the hell out of the media.

>> this was in a defense industry conference, usually a friendly audience. but the question forced to the surface is an uncomfortable one that has been the sub text of many conversations in the special forces community. should the role of special forces and the black ops they carry out stay black? >> it is not something that we actively pursue. as i think a number of the journal i.s here in the audience will confirm. the fact of the matter is, the social media the way it is today, with the press and the 24-hour news cycle, it's very difficult to get away from it. >> today at my direction the united states launched a targeted operation against that compound in a abbottabad pakistan. >> beyond the leaks if officials in washington or a relentless press, being a member of special forces, especially the navy seals, has become a cottage industry for some who have sold books, consulted on movies and

gone on speaking tours. but they argue they know what to say and what to leave out. >> i think the special operations and the intelligence community have done a very good job of keeping the specific tactics, techniques and procedures that we use secret. what the enemy does know is that there is an incredibly able, versatile force on call ready to respond when needed. >> john miller is with us now. give us the context of this meeting where this particular exchange took place. a public meeting. secondly, the buzz that's been around about this idea that somehow there's too much information out there. >> this was a defense industry conference that is geared towards the special operations community and it is an extraordinarily friendly audience for a guy like bill mcraven. so this was unusual to have a contentious exchange there. but to follow-up on the second part of your question, this

really has been something royaling in the community. people inside black ops, once you go away, retire, your job is to keep your mouth shut the same as you did when you were in. >> has there been information in the media that the national security people believe that is damaging? >> well, the special ops people say, you know, when you have one of these operations, we put out what we put out. but then there is a drip, drip, drip of leaks from reporters who do their job more saying tell me more, give me a richer picture, what happened, how did they do it and they get into things what was coop concealed in the helicopter tail rotor and how did they parachute in, what night vision did they use. that's what drives them crazy. >> there's a fine line too. there may be somebody out there connecting the dots. even though you're saying isolated may not be harmful, putting together is something else. you've been on the press side and the inside. >> the best combination is to

have very experienced people who cover that for a living and sources who understand how to mitigate those things. because the more expertise you have on what is of tactical value to the enemy and what's interesting helps. >> john, it raises the point too, all of the special ops forces know, they don't want to put themselves or anyone else in danger. but how much of it is actually said, this goes too far, this doesn't, as the line changes? >> well, the other question connected to that is, and who makes that decision? because the leaks are not coming from special forces operators. the leaks, i'm going to be candid here, come from 26-year-old congressional staffers who sit in on a classified briefing or their bosses or somebody at the white house who actually doesn't understand the tactical value of those things. but you got to frame this, special forces have carried out thousands of these operations at a rate of four or five a day for the last two years or so. and mostly we don't hear

anything about any of them. these high-profile ones generate the pressure. >> what i hear you saying is that the message that the general was suggesting might be a timely warning, but it might be directed at other people rather than the special ops forces. >> i think he may have had the wrong target with mcraven. mcraven's point was great, the reason i became a navy seal is i saw john wayne in the movie green beret and we have a documentary and act of valor will the seals coming out and people say that's too much exposure. >> the movie coming out about >> you have this groundswell in entertainment. they say it makes us better when work is promoted and brings in recruits. >> it's not to end with this broadcast this morning i'm sure. john, thanks. george clooney is one of the guests on the program created by

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hi, ed. >> good luck on your new home, by the way. >> thank you very much and welcome. >> what room are we in now? >> well, this is the combination dressing room, ed and bedroom with my unique looking fireplace with a chinese red. i'm sorry, you can't see the colors. these are our ovens. i have a surprise for you. we have two pizzas here. you see that. >> wonderful. >> isn't that beautiful. i wish you could join me in a bite. >> so do i. >> and here. we have one of my favorite spots in the house. look at that. it works too. >> a spigot no less. >> isn't that lovely?

that's pretty. that was a very -- i have to leave you, ed. that's my cue. i got to catch the plane and go back to vegas again. >> frank sinatra and hundreds of other big names on person to person. edward r. murrow's classic interview program from the 1950s. tonight, cbs news is bringing back person to person. lara logan and i will visit warren buffett, jon bon jovi and george clooney who took us on a tour of his los angeles home. >> hey george. >> hi guys. >> welcome. >> we're pleased to be here. >> hi lara. >> it's very nice of you to let us come inside your home, george. we appreciate it. thank you. >> lara, you're welcome any time. charlie. >> you never let up, do you? >> i can't. >> why this home for you? >> i bought it in the early '90s. i had done -- was in the second season of e.r. and i was living in a little house. i thought well maybe it's time

to get a little bit larger house off of the street so i wouldn't fall prey to every photographer. >> come on in the kitchen. this is where i obviously am known for my cooking talent. this is where i order food delivered. >> where is the screen room? before you go outside, am i going to see the screening room? >> i'm going to get you to the screening room. are you looking for yourself? yes, lara, let me -- >> don't go there, george. >> let me tell you what happened. you know, the reason that charlie keeps talking about ides of march is because he's in it. >> is he? >> you played and this is a stretch, you played charlie rose. >> so you, you governor would impose a death penalty. >> no. i would commit a crime for which i would happily go to jail. >> how did i do as charlie rose. >> honestly, you were the second best to audition for the part. >> george clooney. >> i love it.

still looking forward to the mix of people that you have on it. but it's also a lot of fun too, to see your good friend george clooney. >> warren buffett is interesting. he never lets up, clooney never lets up. what's interesting is you do see them inside their homes and you see the kinds of things that have made a difference to them in their lives. people put on their walls, have on their tables. moments in their lives. >> do you find that people are more or less open given this format when you're doing an interview with them. >> probably more open. that's the idea for this. we're in a studio in new york. probably more open. at the same time, we're going around their house, they're moving from room to room. it's not sitting like you and i are. >> it's a very personal space. >> it's very conversational too. i hope you will join us for the debut of person to person. it is tonight, tonight at 8:00, 7:00 central right h

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our gayle king has a look at what's coming up in the next hour. gayle? >> we are here. thank you, charlie. contraception is always a hot button issue when it comes to government and religion. at 8:00, we'll talk about the legal action some catholic organizations are threatening to take against the distribution of birth control. you know, a million dollar idea can come to you in the strangest of places. we'll meet a man who had one on the surfboard. gloria estefan is here. >> hello. >> what do your million ideas come from? >> in the shower. yes i do. >> you never know what's going on in the shower. gloria estefan is here. >> don't go that far. >> emilio is here keeping it

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so we're going to start with a stairway. are you ready to do this? >> i was born ready. ♪ ♪ [ theme from rocky ] ♪ i wonder who won that little competition between jimmy fallon and first lady michelle obama. two good sport. welcome back to "cbs this

morning." i'm gayle king. would you like to get into a thing with the first lady when it comes to push ups. >> no. >> i would like to race her up the stairs at at white house. >> i would too. the white house is trying to cool off a heated controversy over a new obama administration rule. that rule requires all employers, all employers, including religious institutions to cover birth control as part of their employee health insurance. >> some roman catholic dprups are threatening lawsuits saying it interferes with religious freedom. jay carney responded on tuesday. >> we're going to continue to work with religious groups to try to allay their concerns. as we implement a policy that provides this coverage to women across the country. >> let's bring in washington post columnist michael gerson a former speech writer for president george w. bush and here in our studio, faith and religion contributor, father edward beck. thank you both. >> michael gerson, we'd like to

start with you, if you don't mind. >> sure. >> the administration says they're willing to work out a compromise. is it possible. >> it's difficult to compromise on this kind much issue, hard to grant half of a constitutional right. the question here is whether religious institutions will be forced to buy an insurance product that violates their conscience. that either happens or it doesn't happen. there might be some things that you can do around it. but the administration is not conceding the kral point here. they believe that churches have religious liberty rights. but they think that religious institutions like hospital and charities and universities should be treated under federal law like a 7-eleven or an apple store. i think that's resented by the institutions themselves. it's really a binary choice they have here, whether to treat or not. >> michael, why do you think this is an ideological wrecking ball? >> well, you know, it represents in a lot of ways an important political philosophic debate.

not a debate about contraception. it's how you view liberalism. classical liberalism was the protection of individuals and groups and their rights not to reflect the majority views. modern liberalism in this sense seems to be the imposition of liberal values on institutions that are regarded as backwards. i think that's the opposite of pluralism and it's provoked an understandable and natural reaction among not just catholics but i think protestants and others who care about religious liberty. >> father beck, in reality this is something that's being dealt with. there are 28 states which require organizations to offer prescription coverage offering contraception and only waet of those would exempt catholic hospitals and universities. based on how it's played out there, how do you believe it should play out nationally? >> in those states there have been conscience clauses with the universities, those hospitals can get around it. >> is that enough then?

would that be a compromise that would work? >> i think if there was a conscience clause put into this, yes, they could be exempt, it definitely would work. something that's not discussed is this plan b. the morning after pill. catholics are coming to me saying, father, is this abortion, though? you have a fertilized egg. it's also going to have to cover that. it's being called this contraception controversy. but really this is after conception some are saying and less is getting spoken about that. that is getting the ire of catholics up. >> the latest survey seems to suggest that most classics favor contraception. doesn't that play a role in in decision? >> well, you know, gayle, in the catholic church it doesn't matter. majority doesn't rule. as sometimes in civil law it doesn't rule. in the 1960s. most people thought that integration was a good thing and we had to go against popular opinion for what we believe to be true. the catholic church is doing the same thing with this issue. it's not going to cave because

it's not popular. >> integration is a good thing. >> in the '06s' segregation. >> i was like. rewind. >> segregation. sometimes you have to go against the popular opinion. >> i strongly agree with that point. if religious liberty means the right to reflect the majority, religious liberty doesn't mean anything. traditionally, this is the right of catholic institutions and religious institutions to remain -- to retain their identity. and it's interesting that the supreme court in the jose -- taber decision just in jana certificated a broad religious autonomy right when it comes to hiring. the administration could have used that as an excuse and said look, the supreme court has a strong ruling here. 9-0 decision. we can back off from this. they chose actually to be very aggressive on this issue in ways that i don't quite understand.

>> while i think there's going to be a compromise, is because we know president obama needs the catholic vote. he lost catholic men in the last election. he can't afford like in ohio, pennsylvania, to come that close or lose the catholic vote. there are catholics who think contraception should be covered here who don't like the fact that it's demanded of the church. >> the obama administration is sending signals that they want to see a way out of this. they want to see some alternative way in terms of offering a different kind of health insurance. >> why do it now, anyway? it's a crucial time. i can't get an answer as to why this is the time this is brought up. wait until after the election at least. >> a lot of political folks are talking about it. we have to leave it there, father beck. good to have you with us. there's more at cbs news.com/"cbs this morning." we also have

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♪ ♪ every record sounds the same ♪ you got to step into my world ♪ madonna's new sing am, give me all your luvin came out a few days before the super bowl performance. yesterday, she announced the schedule for her new world tour. tickets go on sale on monday. anybody who saw her on that halftime show can see that madonna has not slowed down. she's 53. she's proud to say. there's a lot of that going on in the music world. 62-year-old bru

62-year-old bruce springsteen kicking o a tour. and gloria estefan, so fabulous at 54. she put out her 26th album. miss little havana including hotel nacional. it debuted at number one. she's the first female artist ever to do that. it's a pleasure for us to have you here this morning in studio 57. >> happy to be here. thank you so much. >> nice treat. >> a real pleasure. at 54 you look so good. tell us all the work you've had done. >> not that there's anything wrong with that. no. good old-fashioned hard work. i'm very tiny. i lose some weight and then it looks way better. >> when we sat down, we were talking, gloria said everybody thinks that i've had work done, not that there's anything wrong with that. >> i have great genes. thank you to my mom and dad for that one. i exercised my whole life. i have spare parts in there. i have titanium reinforced.

>> i remember. >> i work out a lot. i think that will help staying active, doing what you do. i don't feel any different quite honestly. i feel like a baby still. >> i was wondering how old you feel? >> i feel like ten. i don't feel any different. i see my kids getting older. my son is married. my daughter is 17. that's where you see time passing. i have more energy than ever. i feel great. >> you know what scares me, i remember when her kids were born. >> time goes by. >> and emily is heading off to college. >> one more year. amazing musician. she's on this record as well. >> she's the best musician in your family. that's saying something. >> you're saying she's the best musician in the family and you're gloria estefan. >> she's got the discipline. my son as well has a lot to do with the video. we worked on the treatment together. and wrote the scripts. it's great to work with your kids and have them still think

you're cool is great. that's fantastic. >> the best part. >> do you find, gloria, after being in the music business as long as you have, you have to figure out a way to stay current and relevant? >> on the latest one you're working with pit bull, with some of the younger people. do you feel that in order for us to still maintain, we have to play with the young in. >> i don't know if it's so much play with the young. but i think that every time you work with someone new and you have a new baby, it's like different genes from each of the participants in the thing. so most definitely. as long as you keep fresh for you. i think for a musician, for somebody to buy that your stuff is fresh, it has to feel like that for you. you have to grow and evolve, or else you'll do the same thing. >> i loved you and pit bull together. >> worldwide. >> the days of just going into a record store and getting a record, which i tried to do recently, you know and you go from place to place, no we don't sell it, no we don't sell it. you decided to do something

different this time with your album. isn't it only sold at target. >> they were the exclusive sellers of the cd. quite honestly, most of it get downloaded and most of it not paid for. artists will do what we do regardless of the fact that it no longer may be this lucrative thing like years ago. you got to do your art. >> the grammys are this weekend. you've won seven times. >> emilio has 19. he's got me beat. >> what are some of the categories you're most interested in? >> i like to watch it. i like to see what categories get on the air. most of the awards are given before. it's interesting for me to see which performances they choose. the grammys are more pop oriented in the last few years. i love to watch live music, period. any time there's somebody performing live, i'm there. i love to soak it up. it's fantastic. >> it's great when you walked it and emilio is with you. he's been your significant other. you said your one and only for

the past years. >> has it been your only? >> yes. >> really? >> yes. >> didn't know any better. >> i've always wanted to talk to people like that. i think it's so rare that that happens. >> i didn't plan it. i didn't think i'd even get married, period. i was going off to school, i had been accepted to the sar bone in paris. we met and i think it was destiny. we fell in love and i had no doubt that i wanted to be with him the rest of my life. it's worked out. we have great communication. he just says that i really don't know any better. i tell him baby, i don't have to have the hamburger. when i got filet mignon at home. how are you feeling about your kids going to school. the first time i thought i would need psychological helpment erica, wait until it happens to you. >> i don't want to think approximate it. i have to think about kindergarten. >> you're excited for hr, i

know. >> i try to think positively and protect my kids mentally as well. i surround them with white light and good thoughts. but of course, i'm in a fetal position as it is. she has one more year in high school. the boys are more independent. my son was independent. she was our miracle child. >> i remember. >> going out in the world. >> i never forgot about your kids. you sew their wings on tight and then you let them soar. i've never forgotten that. who are you rooting for in the grammys sunday night? >> i root for everybody. it's nerve racking and it's nice to get that. it's your peers saying that you've done something well. >> i don't have favorites. i love to -- i love artists and what they do. it's going to be fun to watch. >> i'm rooting for adele. >> you don't have to root. that's a no-brainer. that's going to happen. >> always good to see you. >> good to see you too. you can watch the grammys awards. i'm going to the grammys. we'll be covering it at 8:00,

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♪ welcome back to "cbs this morning." one of the worst days in nascar history happened in 2001 when the legendary dale earnhardt died in a crash at the daytona 500. three-time nascar champion darrell waltrip was there. he watched in horror as his friend was killed and he then saw his brother michael waltrip win the race.

darrell has written the story of that day in a memoir, sundays will never be the same, racing, tragedy and redemption. my life in the fastest sport. he joins us to talk about that with correspondent jeff glor. >> welcome. >> thank you, charlie. >> take us back to 2001. it was my first race do a nascar sprint cup race. and so i'm in the booth for the first time. my brother and i, michael, who was driving for dale sr in the -- my brother michael and i talked through the winter about michael, man wouldn't it be cool if you won your first race. he had never won a race. wouldn't it be cool if you won a racy could call you home. it would be like when ned jarrett called dale jarrett home. it's one of those moments. here i am on the race goes off, we have the big one and the people are flipping over and they stop the race.

we had some radio talk between dale and some of spotters and thing. they go back to green. here my brother is with the white flag come out. the last lap of the race. my brother is leading the daytona 500. it's the biggest race. it's the super bowl. >> with dale jr. right behind him. >> i wanted you to introduce this piece because i wanted you to go back with us to hear this. this is what everybody heard or what you heard at that moment. here's the tape. >> come on, mike i, you got it man. you got it. you got it! you got it. mikie! all right. >> michael waltrip wins. >> all right. >> a dream come true. >> oh, man. >> how about dale, is he okay in. >> he climbed out of his car. >> darrell? >> is this better than winning

it? >> i hope dale is okay. i guess he's all right, isn't he? >> extraordinary moment. >> it is. and it's 11 years ago, charlie, and even today, i see that and i think about that moment in time. i could shed tears. it was tragic. one moment i'm excited for my brother. i'm going to victory circle with my brother. and the next minute i turn around and a friend of mine was standing at the top of the steps with tears down his face. big man. deputy sheriff in daytona. he's shaking his head. i say i'm going to victory circle. he's going to take me. what's wrong? he's shaking his head and crying. he said we got to go to the hospital. he said, i don't think dale made it. it was the biggest and most emotional roller coaster i had been on in my life. the excitement of michael

winning and then the fact, the reality that dale probably got killed in that wreck. the next thing i know, i'm sitting in the hospital with the family and friends and nascar officials and we're all stunned. everybody is in shock. there were things that happened in that room that i don't even recall. i blocked it out of my mind. it was so devastating to me and the racing world, really. >> what was it about dale? >> dale was a character. i mean, you know, his image was one tough customer. he made sure that he lived up to it. he was all about risk and reward. he would take any risk to get that reward. you could go out on the track to practice, just some little simple thing like practice, he wanted to win practice. he was a man that all he thought about was winning races and you better not get in his way because he would -- as he would put it, he would rattle your

cage. >> he would push you out of the way. >> you're going too slow. move over. >> you've been outspoken in support of safety. things have changed. >> oh, nascar did an outstanding job. michel ton, all the people at nascar, we had about three tragedies in a row, adam petty and kenny irwin and then dale and nascar said, man, we got to do something. they introduced a new car shall the car of tomorrow was safer race car, safer barriers around the tracks. everywhere we go, the devices, the seats. you look at a driver today, you see the headrests that protects him from impact. the hans device, what a great invention that is. you can see there, one of the guys wearing it. because of dale's death, there's been a lot of lives that have been saved. >> some people think, though that why they come is to see an accident. >> you know, it's like football. you want to see that guy go

across the middle there and catch that pass and take that hard hit. that's part of the ooh. you got to have some of that. that's what racing provide. it provides a lot of excitement. you sit on the edge of your seat. you anticipate things happening. but the thing about it today is, they're happening and guys are getting -- they're not getting killed, they're not getting hurt. they're walking away from them. that's' big gain. >> nascar has been so safe for ten years. indy car, we talked about dan weldon. >> dan was a super guy. he's the other dw by the way that people know me as dw. they knew dan as the same. the ironic thing about dan, he was helping develop a safer race car. a new car for indy car racing that would be much safer and he was in the process and that car will be on the track in 2012. but dan was a great guy, sweet wife, couple of kids. it was a tragedy, man.

one of the worst. >> you know i grew up in north carolina. >> car guy. >> car guy. i'm a car guy. i cannot, not ask you this. who is the greatest driver ever to sit behind the wheel? >> well, you know, everybody has an opinion, right? >> what is darrell's opinion? >> i think david pierson. the silver fox. he was so smart. he won 105 races. he won three championships. but he never ran all the races. he had a limited schedule most of the time. so the 105 wins that david pierson has. they're high quality wins and i loved racing with him. he would be one of the guys, you wouldn't see him all day, but when the checkered flag was ready to fly, he was there. >> who do you like this year, danica is full-time in nascar now, right? >> the daytona 500 is coming up on the 26th and danica will be in the field. don't count her out. can she win? can trevor bayne, the kid that won last year?

>> who would have thought that? >> don't count her out. i think she'll be a big surprise. carl edwards will be look r for redemption. he and tony stewart. >> jimmie johnson. mr. five-time. he's going to fight back in. jeff gordon is not done, tony stewart is not done, kyle busch and the childress brothers. >> do you wish you could be back? >> at times. i see sundays when i wish i was out there and something happens and i remember why i quit. >> the book, was it hard to write a book and look back as well as think about the memories? >> the thing about the book is, it's my story. it's how -- the day that dale got killed. it's me. i never could understand why i even went to the hospital. i mean, my brother just won the daytona 500. i would have probably in a normal -- i would have run to victory circle. instead i ran to the hospital. why i did that, i don't even know.

but i was there and that experience has changed -- it was life changing for me. it has been for many fans. that's why the title of the book, sundays will never be the same, racing is better than it's ever been. we've had the best year we've ever had. five first-time winners, a tie for the championship settled by who had the most wins. the cars are the best they've ever been. 2012 is going to be an awesome season. sponsors are back. fans are back. things are looking pretty good. >> great to have you here, my friend. good to see you. >> i'd love to say here all day. we can talk some

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he was lucky enough to come up with it while surfing. national correspondent ben tracy is with us. ben, good morning. >> good morning. this is one of those stories where you say i wish i thought of that. a little camera called the go pro has been wildly successful because it came along at a time when so many of us want to share everything we do and post-it online. ♪ ♪ it is some of the most amazing video on the internet. skiers outrunning an avalanche in the french alps. a kayaker plunging down a waterfall. a surfer right in the middle of a monster barrel. the footage almost looks fake. but all of it was shot on this little hd camera called the go pro.

it can be mounted on almost anything or anyone. >> awesome. >> it's the brainchild of 36-year-old nick woodman. california's surfer dude turned ceo. >> one day when he was out riding the waves, he realized he was missing something. >> what didn't you have sm. >> i didn't have a way to capture how much fun my friends and i were having. i didn't want to have to be a camera guy or a surfer. i wanted to be both at the same time. >> so nick decided to develop a wearable camera. he moved back in with his parents, used his mom's sewing machine to make the straps and even sold 600 beaded belts out of his vw van to raise the seed money. >> bead money. >> since launching their first hd camera in 2009, the $300 go pro has become the go-to device for thrill seekers, dozens of tv adventure shows and even filmmaker george lucas, who

stuffed them in the cockpits of fighter planes for his new movie "red tails." his film camera would not fit. analysts estimate the company based in half-moon bay, california, sold 800,000 cameras last year taking in $250 million. go pro gets almost all of its marketing material for free because its customers upload a new video to facebook and you-tube every two minutes. this footage of a mountain biker taken down by an african elk has been watched 13 million times. the tiny camera even found it way inside a shark's mouth and nick strapped one to his head to record the birth of his son. >> daddy is here. >> without you-tube, without facebook, does this work as well? >> no. if you're a great skier and you go around telling everybody how great you are, you're kind of a tool. but if you have a great day out on the mountain, create a go pro

video about it, people say wow, you rip and now they know more about you. >> to know more about nick all you have to do is rig his new porsche race car with about a dozen cameras. >> we've got a lot of them. >> then put another one on us. >> look how tiny this is and how big that is. >> he took us for a beautiful drive down california's highway 1. his company's unofficial testing lab. >> we were trying to develop these products in an office park somewhere, where is the inspiration? >> with this adrenaline junkie behind the wheel. >> don't kill me to get a story. >> our ride soon went way off road. >> good job dude. >> the workday looks more like a day off and woodman's employees are more like his beach bum band

of brothers. >> i can't believe he pays me for this. >> there's always looking for new shots. so they stuck a camera in his remote control airplane. footage that used to require a helicopter. >> what do you want this to do for people? >> our vision forgo pro is that it enables people to capture and share their most passionate experiences. you are the star of your own life. live a big life, go pro. >> that's like a commercial. >> sorry about that. i couldn't resist. >> it's hard to blame him. he's having the ride of his life. >> nice. >> man, this is a great story, ben. well done. >> thank you. not a bad day at the office to go hang out there. >> just show it to us. you have it there. >> this is the go pro. it's pretty tiny.

it also comes with this case or put it inside this thing and it's waterproof. you can take it deep sea fishing, surfing. >> it really doesn't -- if you have this on your head, it wouldn't necessarily be all that cumbersome, it's not that heavy? >> correct. >> not very expensive. 300 d. for the quality you get, that's not bad. >> that quality is amazing. >> high definition. >> you looked a little scared in the car there. you didn't scream like a girl but you looked a little scared in the car. >> if you kill me, you get no story. >> nick says to me, you're the first person who has come in this car and not asked me if i actually know how to drive it. but the thought went through my head. this could be my last shoot. >> what was it he said, if you don't have the camera, you don't have to be a jerk, you can the equivalent of a hero. >> nobody wants to be a tool. >> if you fool around and brag about how good you are at things, you're a little bit of a tool. if you put it online.

i took this out on a bike ride and mounted it on the handlebars of my bike and we were tooling around los angeles, up to the hollywood hills. the video you get from it is just amazing. >> does it have sound too? >> it has a built-in microphone. >> think of all the human experiences. he photographed the birth of his child. >> this is some of the video from the bike ride. he did. he took this thing and put it on a little helmet that he had in the operating room. saw the birth of his child. >> so, ben, what's your next great idea? i think you do a story like that and become inspired. you know what i need to do? >> you come back very inspired or kind of depressed you didn't think of something so simple that this guy made millions of dollars off of. >> ha do you think the company is worth? >> that's a good question. some analysts are saying $250 million. they're a private company so they don't put the numbers out. they had a 300% increase in profits last year. one way to measure it is a year ago at this time, 50,000

followers on facebook. today, 1.7 billion. >> another way to measure is how much somebody would pay to buy the company. >> there you go. we'll have to see. >> you have a number out there, charl charlie. >> by sunday, i will have bought one of these. >> sunday. >> we would like to see the video, mr. rose, on monday. >> i don't know about that. >> go pro. >> nice to have you here in the studio. stay with us. you're watching "cbs this morning." we're gonna erase breast cancer once and for all. once and for all. walking 60 miles... in three days. join us. join us. (woman) we're united. (woman) a family. (man) a movement. (woman) a coming together of thousands. (woman) thousands... (man) with one goal.

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