.com ] captioning funded by cbs good morning. it's thursday, february 9, 2012. welcome to studio 57 at the cbs broadcast center. i'm charlie rose. the state and big banks cut a deal to help millions of people stay in their homes. and on capitol hill republicans vow to take on president obama's controversial new birth control policy. new york archbishop timothy dolan is here. i'm gayle king. when i see you at 8:00, j.c. penney ceo talks about how he won't vow to pressure and fire ellen degeneres. we'll sit down with dwayne "the rock" johnson. the tsa is ready to let more americans go express through

airport security. look at a tough decision for every family. when is the right time for seniors it give up the car keys. we begin with today's eye-opener. your world in 90 seconds. i am dumbfounded that in the year 2012, we still are fighting about birth control. >> this is not a women's rights issue. this is a religious liberty issue. >> the battle of a contraception escalates on capitol hill. >> this attack on religious freedom in our country must not stand and will not stand. >> millions of homeowners facing foreclosure could soon get much-needed relief. >> big banks set to announce a deal with the government reducing loans in exchange for legal protection. >> lenders will pay to avoid being sued for abuse of foreclosure practices. >> frequent flyers will soon be able too zip through security thanks to a screening program. >> it's part of a fundamental shift in how we approach

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welcome to "cbs this morning." we begin with big news from the mortgage and foreclosure crisis. >> government officials tell cbs news a historic settlement will be announced today that could affect nearly two million homeowners. the $26 billion deal involves 49 states. that's every state except oklahoma and some of america's largest banks. >> business and economics correspondent rebecca jarvis is with us. good morning. >> good morning. >> what do they hope that this will accomplish? >> economically speaking, they hope it will turn the tide for housing. housing put us in the great recession and the hope here is that they can stem the falling prices and also stem some of the foreclosures. but that is a long ways away. >> who qualifies? >> so ultimately you have two different groups that this is targeting. first of all, it's targeting the underwater homeowners. people who have homes that are less in value than the cost of their mortgage. those individuals about a

million of them will see principal reduction as a result of this deal. so they will actually see their principal come down if they happen to have a loan that is owned by those five biggest banks. if it's owned by fannie or freddie, about half the mortgages in this country are, you're not going to be eligible for this deal. the other group outside of the refinancesing are those who have lost their homes already to foreclosure. about 750,000 of them will actually see a payout as a result of this deal. that payout may be as little as $2,000. if you've lost your home due to improper foreclosure practices known as robo signing, $2,000 is cold comfort at this point. >> it is a little bit of cold comfort. what is this in turns of upside to it, does this to do anything to help the housing market and prices in. >> well, ultimately, what you may see, banks have been in a holding pattern for a while now. 14 months of this settlement have really been under way. so banks now have a clear signal

that they can proceed with a foreclosure backlog on top of that, however, once they work through that foreclosure backlog, once these homeowners get paid out and hopefully get to refinance their mortgages, assuming the plan goes according to plan, then ultimately you may see a rebound in the housing market. that is clearly the hope here. >> what's in it for the banks? >> the banks get out of lawsuits. they get out of lawsuits in a narrowly defined sense. they get out of it surrounding the robo signing practices. they evicted homeowners without going through the proper paperwork. a lot of analysts are telling me, that's a big reason why they signed on to this settlement, because they thought they could actually be facing multiples of billions of dollars in lawsuits down the road for those plaque tises. >> becky, thanks. turning to the growing controversy over the obama administration's birth control mandate. it comes from republican leaders on capitol hill, congressional correspondent nancy cordes has

more for us. >> good morning, erica. republican candidates for president have been railing against this for days. congressional republicans are picking up the baton vowing to overturn the rule if the president doesn't change it. >> this is a huge mistake. >> the two most powerful republicans in washington said they would introduce legislation to reverse the new birth control rule. the issue even brought house speaker john boehner to the floor for a rare speech fueling an already heated debate. >> this attack on the federal government on religious freedom must not stand and will not stand. >> the new rule requires employers who provide insurance for their workers to cover birth control for women. by next august, it they don't already. churches are exempt. but religious affiliated organizations, like catholic hospitals or universities are not. republicans say that's unfair. >> that may actually be almost the most offensive part of this whole idea.

you tell religious institutions you have to do things that are contrary to your faith principles. >> democrats argue it's a matter of fairness for women. according to the cdc, 99% of women who are sexually active will use birth control at some point in their lives. 98% of catholic women. contraceptives can cost hundreds of dollars a year. democrats also note this is already the law in 28 states. >> we're talking about hospitals and universities that operate in the public space often with public dollars that would not be able to discriminate against their employees. many of whom are not catholic, not of the same religion. >> yesterday, president obama's spokesman was peppered with questions on the rule as the topic took over his press briefing. >> we want to work with all the offerings to implement this policy sensitive to their concerns as possible. >> even if republicans do introduce legislation to try to overturn this rule, it is unlikely to go anywhere in the

senate, which is controlled by democrats. >> nancy, thank you. we're still waiting to hear president obama himself respond to this criticism of his new policy. we bring in senior white house correspondent bill plante. >> bill, did the white house anticipate this uproar? >> charlie, they knew it would be controversial but not this hot. the original idea was to get it out before the state of the union so it wouldn't overshadow the president's speech. now they're in full damage control, denying that the white house is on the ropes. but they seem to be looking for a way out, charlie. >> what are their options to get out? >> i'm told in the first place, they look for some way to give an exemption. they decide since catholic women use contraception about the same rate as everybody else, that they would go along with this. people didn't think about the argument that the mandate impinges on religious liberty. as for a possible compromise, there's a year before this goes into effect. they keep talking about finding

a balance. but they also say the president remains determined that all women have access to reproductive healthcare. they're pointing at catholic colleges and hospitals which already offer a contraception option in their insurance. they're hoping that there's a way to get that to work for all providers. here's the bottom line. the white house has always seen this as a generational issue. they believe that younger female independent voters will agree with them. that, of course, is one of the most important groups the president has to win for reelection. that's the key calculation here for the campaign. charlie in. >> bill, thank you. with us now from capitol hill, arizona republican senator john mccain. senator, good morning. >> good morning, charlie. >> you may have heard what bill plante just said from the white house. what is -- where are you on this? >> well, i obviously agree with the catholic church and the people who feel that it is their option to provide services to

their members. but not to violate their religious principles. so i think it's pretty clear that the white house is looking for the exit sign here and i hope we can sit down and get this worked out and allow these organizations not have to violate their religious believes. >> is there some difference between governor romney and newt gingrich and rick santorum on this? because there's some criticism of governor romney as to what was possible in massachusetts. >> well, in massachusetts he inherited a law that required that and ep fought against it. obviously, he was facing an overwhelmingly democratic legislature, but he never supported such a ruling. >> may i turn to syria, because of the increased conflict over there and you as a senator, who has always been candid about how you think american force should be used. what do you think the options for force are in syria and what role should the united states play? >> the united states should play

a very important role, charlie. along with other nations. look, they're massacring their people. latest reports are some 7,000. now we hear reports that the iranians are coming in to help kill these syrian people who are struggling for freedom. we should look at all options, including technical assistance, including medical care, including if there's ways using other countries. it would be my preference to get weapons in to these people. we have to explore all options now. >> clearly, russia and china will block action in the u.n. security council, much to their shame. >> should there be some addressing of the issue of sending nato troops there or sending some other arab countries participating in a military action? >> i would not send nato troops there. certainly not on the ground. i do think that we can support

these organizations, for example, the turkey has announced they will provide safe haef en for syrian refugees. we could set up no movement zones, no fly zones. we could do a lot of things working being frankly, with the leadership of the arab league who has been very good on this. it's time we acted on behalf of the people of syria who are being slaughtered. >> but how is this different from libya? >> libya, they had a base, as you know, in benghazi. not we, but arab countries and others were able to provide them with arms and equipment. there's no real base there for this opposition. so it presents a real dilemma. but if we really want to help these people, i'm confident we can with find ways to do so without the united states, with boots on the ground or active intervention. but there's a lot of things that can be done and we should be doing them and quickly while these people are dying in the streets. >> what do you make of the russian opposition at the united

nations? >> well, we got to keep pushing that reset button. it's an indication of the total failure of the obama administration's policies towards russia. the arab spring is coming to russia. thousands and thousands of people demonstrated in sub zero temperatures, and of course, putin is lashing out at the united states and other countries as this appeal to russian nationalism. i don't think it works. >> when you look at the options that we have, i mean, how do you make an immediate comeback to syria. an immediate action that will do something about the number of people killed in homes and other places. it's becoming drastic and taking on an extraordinary level of violence. >> i agree with secretary clinton, we should establish a contact group, a group of nations, including middle

eastern countries, qatar and other nations and find ways to help them. in other words, tracking the movement of syrian government troops and forming the people of that. giving them medical assistance. god knows they need that very badly and then moving forward in ways that we can help them resist and fight back. they are being slaughtered. anybody who believes that they are not obviously, we all know that they are being slaughtered and the fact is, we need to act on their behalf. by the way, there's a lot of consequences of an overthrow of assad and including hezbollah and lebanon and a lot of other i am pli kimplications to this. that's why the iranians are becoming more involved. >> thank you, senator very much. >> thanks, charlie. the white house is set to tell ten states they will no longer have to follow the stringent no child left behind law. the law is designed to help poor and minority students. it requires all students be

proficient in reading and math by 2014. states that receive a waiver must have another plan. in syria, they bombarded more homes after an attack killed hundreds of civilians. on wednesday, the u.n. secretary accused them of appalling brutality. on the frontlines in syria as rebels and their communities face the physical and the emotional toll of war. >> this is the battle being fought by farmers and workers, very close to home. just outside of the city, fighters moved in on a checkpoint set up by the syrian army to choke off rebel traffic. the attack began. first one, then many opened fire. the enemy remained hidden from view. >> you are surrounded the rebel leader called out to the syrian soldiers. defect and join us. but there was no surrender.

the battle raged on. many of the fighters were young and inexperienced. fuad hashan, a 23-year-old mechanic. charge, charge the men continued to shout. god is great. they lobbed grenades at the enemies, but the bullets kept coming. moments later, hashan was hit. under fire, the commander struggled to lift his limp body. other men joined to help. before a retreat. they tried to reclaim this checkpoint. they haven't been able do it yet. someone has been hurt very badly. they're trying to take him to the hospital. by the time they got him there, hashan was dead. at the hospital, body after body was hurried up the stairs. the men weeping for their fallen brothers. the honor of the arab is dead the man said and curse president

assad. the dead were carried home where the women waited, wailing. we will take revenge on you assad. we will kill you this woman cried. they wept over the bodies. in the night air with their grief. you can hear the chanting now. that is mourners reciting verses from the quran. they will do that throughout the night. four people were killed in the fighting. it's important to remember that this is a small city and a small community. every person living on the street was either a relative of or grew up with one of the men who died. what this really illustrates is that this is not just a community but an entire country that is truly being devastated by this war. for "cbs this morning," clarissa ward, syria. it is time now to show you some of the headlines from around the globe. we start with the wall street journal.

memory gets jolt in brain research. a new study says an electrical treatment for parkinson's disease, patients can improve memory. the san jose mercury news has been poring through the facebook ipo and report the company spends a million dollars a month in rent on the silicon valley headquarters. in britain, prince harry is a fully qualified apache co-pilot. he won the top gun prize as the best gunner in his class. the washington post reports on a bill passed in the virginia legislature that would allow tens of thousands of home-schoolers to play high school sports. it's known as the tebow bill after tim tebow who was home-schooled himself before moving on to college and of course. nfl. the new york times says the average american watches television for four hours and 39 minutes a day. >> however, the nielsen numbers also show people under 35 are actually watching less tv. they may be watching the same shows as their elders, but they're using computers and

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who will take the shot. >> oh, yes. oh, oh, unbelievable. there is nothing, nothing like duke north carolina basketball, especially when duke wins at the buzzer. welcome back to "cbs this morning." >> that win makes charlie rose a happy man. >> a smile on my face. and on the cardinal, on the archbishop. >> we reported earlier that republican leaders in congress are vowing to stop an obama administration rule requiring employers to offer birth control and related services in their employee health insurance. >> one of the most public critics of that mandate has been new york archbishop timothy

dolan president of the u.s. conference of catholic bishops, he'll become a cardinal next week in rome. i'm pleased to have him here. >> charlie, erica, appreciate the invitation and the warm welcome. >> you have had a number of conversations with the president since he has been president. >> i have. >> you have been to the oval office. he called you to tell you about this rule. >> he did. >> what did you say when you heard him say it? >> he was kind enough to call on january 20th. of course, when he told me the outcome, i expressed to him sincerely my disappointment and my disapproval. i had the last time i had the honor of meeting him in the oval office was in early november. and at that time he had said to me, archbishop i want to work together. i don't want my administration to do anything with what i think is nothing less than stellar work done by the churches, particularly, he was talking to me particularly by the catholic church in the area of education, healthcare and charity and justice. he said i don't want anything we do to be an impediment and i

take the protection of conscience and religious freedom as one of my highest responsibilities. so i shared with him my consternation. i said sir, i was bolstered by your assurances, the same assurances you gave at notre dame in your address, the same assurances you gave to the catholic health association. what has happened? why would you back down from that? now, why are we at loggerheads in noble endeavors where we should be cooperating and in friendship? it kind of left me very unhappy. >> do you know why? >> i don't know why, no. i'm still wondering. it seems to be at odds with the very sincere assurances that he gave me that he wanted to continue to work with the church in these endeavors and views and projects that he shared. passionate interest in. i can't figure it out. that's why i'm hoping that in this massive negative reaction to this ruling, i'm hoping that he'll go back to those

assurances that he gave me. >> have you reached out again to the president since? >> i haven't. i hope he would understand that i'm a bit skeptical because he gave us some promises at notre dame. he gave us some promises in the healthcare debate to sister carol key an and catholic association. he gave me promises. i'm skeptical, i'm saying wow, i hope i can continue to work with him here. >> so you are saying that the president has gone back on promises he made to you? >> i would say -- i would say, charlie, when i left the oval office where i was very grateful for his invitation to be there, i left with high hopes that nothing that his administration would do would impede the good work that he admitted and acknowledged in the church. and i am afraid i don't have those sentiments of hope now. >> do your conference of bishops want you to be more aggressive and more confrontational because it's such an important issue for the church? >> it is an important issue, charlie.

i don't know if confrontation and aggressive is the word. we bishops aren't fighters, we're pastors, we want to stand on principle. we want to do our work as effectively as we can. it's not like we're welcoming this. this isn't a fight of our choosing. it was somewhat imposed on us. >> suppose the president says come to the oval office and his question to you is the following. i realize this s hotter than i imagined it might be. >> uh-huh. >> what would you suggest? he says to you i do now? >> i would say thank you, sir, i appreciate your openness, let's get to the bottom of this. you have already signaled a possible area where we can work on in the very mandates themselves put out by hhs. there is a religious exemption, all right? the religious exemption is very choking and very tight. there's a restriction there that we can't live with. simply in the best american principles of freedom of religion, simply give a much more dramatically wide latitude

to that religious freedom and you're not going to hear frus anymore. >> but you know there are surveys that show a large percentage of catholic women use contraceptions. >> yes. we're not into polls. we're into moral principles. there's also the surveys. >> there's also the living experience of people. it's not just polls. >> there would also be, though, polls, charlie, that would show that even those who would disagree with us on the specific issue of contraception and aborted, would agree on the protection of religious liberty. i got a wonderful letter the other day and said i disagree with what the churches say on this issue but count on me being with you on the front lines in saying the government has no right to tell you what you should do or to make you obey something contrary to your can shens. that's an area we're all agreeing on. >> that's the issue.

that the president said he would not go there and he has. >> i'm afraid he has. >> you seemed to open the door. compromise is a tough word these days. you said if he would expand the definition. is that what you would see as a compromise? >> i don't know. you're right. erica, it's good. i don't know if we can compromise. i think that what seems to be -- we can't compromise on principle. it seems to be clear now that this was a terrible, terribly misguided judgment. so let's not compromise on that. that's almost rewarding bad behavior. let's simply go back to the starting line and see how we can live with this without violating conscience or principle. i would prefer the word conciliatory. i say this again. we don't want to fight. when i went into the oval office with the president, he started off by reminding me of the tremendous areas where his administration works closely with the catholic church and with other religions. i said sir, you met and we want

to keep doing that and please don't tie our hands and being unable to do that in the future. >> depending on who is talking about this issue, religious issue, health issue, women's rights issue, there are signs of all of that. there are also people who make the point that sometimes people take birth control not to control whether or not they get pregnant. senator boxer saying 15% of women take it for specific health issues. endometriosis. woo that thor, regulating a cycle, health issues. >> even in the strictest catholic theology, there would be windows of opportunity where somebody for a restricted reason could use these. so that could be. but we just have to stick with principle here. we're very reluctant to do and i think wise voices are saying, we can't have a government bureaucracy invading the privacy and the independence of autonomy

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states. what you do is you go to the tsa website, you register there. you submit your background information and then they'll give you an identification number which you will then use when you make your reservation. there's no guarantee once you do that you're even eligible. you won't find out until you get to the airport. show your boarding pass to the tsa agent who will scan the bar code and if you are, then you go to a separate distinct line and all those things i just told you about will happen. >> it that brings up two points. if you're eligible and you don't know until you get to the airport, so you don't find out. when do you find out that you're eligible? >> right there when you're showing your i.d. and boarding pass to the tsa agent. that's when you know you're in the program. there's no guarantee that by register you'll get in. >> who is eligible in. >> if if you're a member of global entry or some of the other programs the government has to allow you to clear customs back to the united states or if you're a mega frequent flyer who already listed in the airlines programs, you've received a notification from the airline that you my be eligible. chances are you will be.

>> you've tried it? >> i have tried it. it saved a sllot of time. i was the line. nobody in line. >> you can sign up online, give them the information and when you go back, you'll find out whether you've qualified. >> exactly. having said that, vnd having the experience i had, the tsa still resumes the right to give secondary screenings. you're not always going through as fast as i did at that point. the tsa is not told this at all if thaer they're going to cap the program with a particular number of passengers. at a certain point, it won't be easy because everybody is a member of the program. for the moment, limiting it to the frequent flyers, business travelers and people enrolled in other government programs. >> all right.

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you all may know i recently teamed up with j.c. penney. i'm happy about it and j.c. penney is about it. but the organization doesn't think i should be the spokesperson because i'm gay. for those of you just tuning in for the first time, it's true, i am gay. i hope you're sitting down. i hate to break it to you this way. anyway, so they wanted to get me fired. i am proud and happy to say that j.c. penney stuck by their decision to make me their spokesperson. >> ellen degeneres responding for the first time since this controversy made headlines last week. it's 8:00. welcome back to "cbs this morning." i am gayle king. >> i'm charlie rose. j.c. penney hired ellen degeneres to help the company

rebuild the customer base. in a statement j.c. penney stands behind the partnership with the talk show host. with us from plano, texas, ron johnson, the ceo. this is his first interview since the controversy began. welcome. >> good morning. >> it's good to have you on the program. we want to talk more about your plans for j.c. penney but let's move to the controversy. tell me how you approached the controversy and how you made the decision you did and whether you have put it behind you. >> we don't really look at it as a controversy. one of the great things about america is people can speak their minds. and you know, the organization that believes one thing is spoken and it was great to see ellen share her views yesterday. and we stand squarely behind ellen as our spokesperson. and that's a great thing. because she shares the same values that we do and our company was founded 110 years ago on the golden rule, about treating people fair and square. like if you treated yourself.

we think she represents the values of our company and the values that we share. >> did you ever have, ron johnson, did you ever have a moment where you thought, well, maybe we should reconsider or was it from the beginning a no-brainer for you? >> it was a no-brainer. it's interesting, if you go back to -- when we, last november when we decided to make big changes to j.c. penney, which are really going back to the roots to treat people fair and squarely, we debated, should we have a spokesperson help us. it's not that common that companies use spokespeople. but if you can find the exact right person, we thought it would be great. as we thought about all the people in america today, we thought ellen would be the perfect person because we all kind of trust her. she's a very honest, straightforward person with extraordinary values and so we went out and met with her. she actually chose us as much as we chose her. it's been unbelievably wonderful to work with someone who is so kind, so gracious, so funny, who

just, i think, captures what america is about. so never ever doubted. >> you have had an interesting career at target, then at apple where you built up the apple stores which have become well-known and a big sub ses for apple. now you're at j.c. penney. what do you hope to do with this company? how do you want us to perceive this company in the future? >> you know, i think we've got this chance to be america's favorite store. you know, we don't want to be the biggest store, the flashiest. we just want to be your favorite store. that's a place that -- stores that are in touch with the rhythm of your life. for years, customers have to shop on the retailers' term. we'd like them to shop when it's convenient for them. we've introduced a new pricing strategy which makes every day a great day to shop. i think that is one of the secrets toward locking a lot of improvements for customers, which get down to the products

we carry and how we treat them in the store. and we just want to become america's favorite store. >> what did you learn from steve jobs? >> i learned so much from steve. it was a blessing to get to work for 12 years with one of the greatest people our country ever had. but the most important thing he told me was to trust your intuition. and do the right thing. you know, that's what we're doing here with ellen. i think that's what we're doing here with our pricing. steve just said if you do the right thing and focus on just doing one thing at a time, your best, you'll end up in a really good place. i like the path that we're on. >> i love the description of you, ron. that you're the steve jobs of the retail industry. that's quite a compliment. when you were hired, he said to you that retailing is hard. so are you -- you don't look like a worried guy to me. it looks like you clearly have a plan. could you explain how it's going to work. we reported that everything will be discounted. is that what you're thinking? >> that's just one element.

retailing is hard. that's what steve said. when we started stores at apple. but you look a dozen years later, the stores are really popular with people. they're really popular because people know that the store cares more about what the product does for them than just selling a product. at apple, in many ways the relationship with the customer begins when they buy. we want to do the same thing here. but the most important thing, we have extraordinary respect for customers. we think people live busy lives and the world is pretty complicated. we want to simplify things. we think having a great everyday price. we've lowered prices about 40%. it's a price where people have always told us they like to buy product. we want to price for everyday so we don't have to play games with the customer. >> in the end, is it price that makes the difference in terms of whether someone chooses j.c. penney or walmart or costco or whatever store they may be considering? or is it something else? >> no. i think price is just one of the considerations. ultimately, it's about the

products that they leave the store with. we have great products. but the pricing was getting in the way of our really communicating the value of our products. by having a great everyday price that people can just make the decision that today i love this product, we think it's a simpler way to go and we've had such great feedback. i was in the stores last wednesday when we began our new strategy and the employees were saying, you know, customers are bringing in cookies and cakes and giving us hugs. i had that myself. a woman came up and said can i shake your hand. i really love what you're doing. >> the apple store next to me on fifth avenue in new york stays open 24/7. what will be the hours for j.c. penney? >> we'll be open whenever you need to come. we're going to honor -- we're going to honor traditional retail hours. even on days like thanksgiving. we think stores should be a part of someone's lives but they shouldn't interrupt people's lives. we're not going to do early morning things where you have to

get up at 4:00 a.m. to get a good value. we kind of want you rested in our stores. we want you to live your life. whatever that needs to be. if you got to coach soccer for the kids, go coach soccer. >> you're competing against target, ron johnson. are you feeling okay about that? >> i feel great. great company. i loved working there. we are doing a new thing. >> is that a j.c. penney outfit before we go? i'm curious. >> no. this isn't. but i will have one next time. >> i hope we see you again. th

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in today's "healthwatch" when should seniors stop driving? every day in the u.s. more than 500 drivers over the age of 65 are injured in accidents. about 15 of them are killed. >> but giving up the car keys for good is a difficult and emotional decision. amy goyer is a family issues expert with the aarp. she's here along with "cbs this morning" contributor, lee woodruff. welcome to you both. both of you know this topic very, very well. >> we do. >> let's start with you lee. >> we're living it. >> i lost both my parents. i'm thinking, i would give anything to have to deal with this kind of issue. but since you're here and you're living through it right now, lee, i know that it's a very

difficult thing. >> it's a difficult thing when all of a sudden you're the parent. all of a sudden you're the adult and not prepared for that. that's almost a separate issue. but about three years ago my dad was -- my dad, who has dementia and probably alzheimer's, he's 78. he's still pretty young in the scheme of things. it was very obvious that his driving was beginning to be affected. we are three girls and here's our dad. he's iconic to us. we had to start the conversation and where we ended up doing, because he was very resistant to the idea of his independence. he's the man. he drives mom around. is we said, let's make a deal. we'll go out for an independent testing and if they say you can't drive shall then you have to listen to us and if they say you can, we'll listen to you and let you drive. >> how did you know it was time? what were you seeing? >> driving too fast. getting too close to pedestrians and just knowing that because he was beginning to go down cognitively that absolutely he

shouldn't be at the wheel. our biggest nightmare is that he would injure someone else. so he failed the test. he lived up to his end of the bargain but it was difficult to see him diminished in that way. >> it's also hard to put that yourself in that. >> we went through this when my dad was ill. it's when it's their last bit of independence. >> right. >> there was some talk in our family that had been done in a local way. finally we called the local police and they pulled my uncle over. you say that should be a last resort. to go that route. >> it really is. people who -- they report when they talk about this kind of situation, they want o hear from their spouse. they want to hear from their physician. maybe their adult children. but the police is the last person that they want to hear it from. it's better if you can try some other approaches. have the conversation early and often. that's what we did with my parents and my dad's driving. my mom had a stroke at 63.

so she didn't drive for years. like you, my dad drove my mom around. >> amy, i like what you said. you say don't use the phrase we're taking away the keys. i think that's key. maybe it's the language that's so frightening. >> that's what it is. your parents are your parents. you need to be respectful. they will always be your parents. there's that situation of i'm going to come in and tell you what to do. who is going to react well to that. how would you feel if someone did that to you? this is a choice to hang up the keys. >> say hang up the keys? >> you can go about it gradually. almost like the decision or the deal that you and your sisters made with your father. >> right. oftentimes, they begin to edit themselves. my dad sort of stopped driving at night at first and of course, you can say let's do local driving and you can begin to shrink the world a little bit. but there are challenges to this. amy and i were talking in the green room. what steps in as the new mode of transportation. many of us don't live near our

parents and community resources are underfunded and there are lot of challenges. by working with your parents and with local people in the community, you can come up with solutions. >> you really have to have the options when you have the conversation. if you're going to talk about this, when you can make gradual changes. most drivers will modify their own habits. they'll drive -- not drive at night. that's what my dad did. stayed within the radius close to home. they won't all do that. you need to have those conversations. say here's an option. >> have the resources ready to go to. >> amy, lee, thank you. >> the westminster dog show kicks off next week. we've got dirty little secrets at the dog show circuit for a man who spent a year following one champion. stay with us. you're watching "cbs this morning." cbs healthwatch respond sponsored by v8 v-fusion smoothies.

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today is day two in the trial of the former university of virginia lacrosse player charged with killing his ex-girlfriend. >> in yesterday's opening statements, there were other charges of cheating and death threats. whit johnson is in washington this morning. whit, good morning. >> erica, good morning to you. prior to yeardley love's brutal death, prosecutors say george huguely sent her an e-mail accusing her of having sex with another man saying "i should have killed you" threats the defense argues still does not prove premeditated murder. >> seen publicly for the first time in nearly two years, a clean-shaven george huguely looked thinner than the beefed up lacrosse player accused of murder. he appeared anxious, taking notes as he was painted with a violent past enraged by jealousy. two days before love's death,

they say huguely fired off an angry e-mail. you said i you would get back together with me and then you bleeped mike burns. i should have killed you then. on the threats prosecutors say huguely followed through. kicking down her bedroom doorks beating her to death. then stealing her laptop computer to dispose of the incriminating e-mails. ex-prosecutor wendy murphy? >> it's hard to prove what's in a person's mind. what's the next thing, in writing. how do you explain that? >> they urged them to consider a lesser charge, not first degree or felony murder which cares a life sentence. they say huguely was drunk that night. so drunk he was incapable of plotting to kill. he went to her apartment wanting only to talk but it escalated. the defense quoted from the police interrogation just hours after love's death. huguely said she's not dead. i didn't. i did not. i never did anything that could

do that to her. the defense also began efforts to cast doubt on love's official cause of death. blunt force trauma. suggesting that prescription medication and alcohol in her system could have been factors too. >> the defense might well be able to put on an he can pert to say yes, he banged her head on a wall but she died from something else. the question is will a jury believe it? >> we've also learned that yeardley love did not die right after that beating took place. instead, she lie face down on her bed for two hours unable to move, unable to cry for help. >> awful. whit, thank you. unlocking the secret of longevity could earn someone a fortune. jeff glor looks at the business behind efforts to live to 100. maybe even 150? you're watching "cbs this morning." your local news is next. whatcha lookin' for hon?

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>> that's right. that's me. i'm miss colleen and i like a dog. that's the perfect segue for us. welcome back to "cbs this morning." that's from saturday night live a classic sketch about people crazy about their dogs. we all know how dog people love their pets. recently journalist josh dean spent a year following one real life champ dog. >> his new book called show dog the charmed life and trying times of a near perfect purebred. it comes just in time for the westminster kennel club dog show that begins next week in new york. >> thank for having me. >> how about jack? >> he's now a almost four-year-old australian shepherd from the philadelphia suburbs. and he's bursting with personality. he's not necessarily a dog that wins best in show of the dog shows. but he's representative of the every man dog. he wins a lot of shows and he's a beautiful dog. >> i had one and they're herding dogs. you cut the tails off at the

beginning of the their life. >> some ranchers use them to baby-sit their kids. they're so good at herding, they'll take care of your kids. >> one thing you said, show dogs are pets that get to go to the dog show. i think some people think that show dogs are snootie. >> they are pampered, surely. how many of us get blow dried and made up. if you host a morning show, maybe. >> i was going to say. would you like to answer that, mr. rose? >> you go first, charlie. >> i love the pampered part. >> it's true. they have owners who love them and they sleep on couches and jump up on tables and they occasionally pop in the ring. >> see, this is what i didn't know. charlie, did you know that what goes into a show dog, good teeth and good testicles. >> if you're missing one, you're

probably not great breeding stock. >> this is the cover of time magazine. it shows you how popular stories about dogs are. this is called the surprising signs of animal friendships. what is it about do you think this sort of -- this love for animals, especially dogs? >> i read a quote, someone said that dogs are our greatest invention. i think it goes back to the fact that humans created dogs. there were wolves artificially selected by people to become companions. they did jobs for us and we've been working with them now for tens of thousands of years. basically every breed that's out there was created to do a specific thing. we just kind of bonded with them from the very first day. >> you know what is surprising, you don't even have a dog. >> i don't. >> i assume this is written by a guy nuts about dogs, has a dog. you don't have a dog, josh dean. >> i live in brooklyn and -- >> that's in he can cues. >> it is, you're right. i bought a house in the country and i have a little boy who

loves dogs. it's probably inevitable. >> how will you get the dog, go to a shelter or what will you do? >> i hope now to get one of jack's puppies. he's out there breeding. he's produced some beautiful puppies. the australian shepherds have so much personality. >> i'll take one too. when he comes. >> okay. i'll sign you up i can put in a good word for you. >> you'll recommend me? >> i will. >> you know people. you said there's a lot of cheating that goes on in dog shows. like what? how do they cheat? >> it's a gray area. because you're not supposed to alter the dog according -- that would include -- you see a beautiful white dog in the ring, it's probably not that white, because white hair turns yellow. people will put -- judge won't dismiss. people will use prosthetics in the ears if the ears aren't right. muscles and clipped and tail occasionally if it doesn't sit quite the right way. in i think if dogs want to make

you happy. if you give them a treat, you will be amazed. >> dogs are like people. >> that works for me too. give me a treat, i am good. >> charlie, you mentioned getting another dog. would barkley approve? >> he's a wonderful black lab who i spend a lot of time in the park with. he's always looking for somebody to run with him. i think he needs another dog there. the most important thing he wants to do is either to chase or be chased. >> get australian shepherd who will chase him and herd him back to you. >> i had a conversation with a border collie and -- they were constantly in competition. >> they're like an australian

shepherd with a little intens y intensity. >> a bit. >> i likening lish mastiffs. i love big dogs. >> i've come to love them all. >> me too. >> we'll leave the st. bernard at your door. >> i wouldn't be mad at that. >> can you smell what the rock is cooking? duane johnson has entered the building. two new films for us this year. he's planning to return to wrestling. really? the rock is joining us right after the break when "cbs this morning" continues.

if you're afraid of critics, maybe you shouldn't have come down here, henry. >> it is called the mysterious island. it's right in the title. >> i know what the book says. you wanted to find mysterious island. mission accomplished. you wanted to find your grandmother, mission

accomplished. at daybreak we're out of here. >> oh, lord. dwayne johnson has a big year ahead. i know i'm going there. he stars in the new movie, journey to the mysterious island. he's turning 40 and we hear he's going back to the wrestling ring. >> dwayne "the rock" johnson is with us this morning. nice to have you here. >> good to be here. >> gayle is especially excited. >> i won't drool when you're here. >> just when i leave. >> i'll need a wash cloth. before we get started, could we see the smile that makes ladies swoon. where is the smile? erica and i would like to see in. >> i'm ready. and the key with that, i think you got to look up and off. like up there. like you're looking at something. right now i'm looking at lights. they're amazing. >> i'm giggling like i'm 16. let's continue. this is a good year for you dwayne "the rock" johnson. you have two new movies coming out. you're turning 40. how are you feeling about

turning 40? do you have hangups about your age? >> no. i feel great about turning 40. it's funny. it's not until you turn 40 that everybody asks you how you feel about 40. here's why. i was thinking about this a couple of weeks ago. i spent my 30s doing one of the following things. struggling, falling on my face, getting back up. succeeding. failing. >> when did you fall on your face? when did you fail? i'm curious. divorce for me was a big falling on my face. because it wasn't what i signed up for. when you get married, you sign up for life. >> i know. >> when it doesn't happen and you have a child, it changes your perspective. out of that, you know, you rise out of that. >> i get that. >> positives though, haven't you? you have a good relationship, right? >> have a wonderful -- >> with your ex-wife. >> sure. >> which is good for your daughter. >> it's become critical in raising her. so many adults out there, you

guys know this, choose to stay together even though they don't love each other and the love is gone. you can't hide that. they feel that. i'm happy to sit here now and tell you that i'm more equipped now to turn 40 over the past ten years than anything i've gone through. that's why i say 40, bring it on. >> you raise a good point. so many people get divorced. i remember the divorce club for two. there's a lot of great people who are divorced. they make the mistake, they're so mad at each other they forget they have a child that they really have to co-parent together. not only are you and your ex-wife friend, you're still working together, which i think is fantastic. >> thank you. >> i do. i like this about you. >> we do. she's my manager. she does a great job. it came down to a matter of trust. she's successful in her own right. it came down to a matter of trust. how can we stay together in this

form and not only raise our little girl but also continue to build our empire. i got to tell you, look, i was lucky to fall in love. and i did. but then for it to happen twice, because i'm seeing a beautiful girl. for it to happen again twice. >> shall i have her killed or maimed. i'm oenld only kidding. that was a joke. i swear. that was a joke. you fell in love again. you're going back to wrestling. when i heard that, i went what? really in. >> because? >> number one, i love it. >> you do? >> i'm passionate about it? >> i love the connection with the audience. for me, plus i grew up in wrestling. pmadison square garden. eadline >> and your dad too. >> my dad as well. there is no greater connection for me than a live performance with the audience. i understand hugh yjackman is a buddy.

there's that need for that live crowd interaction. it keeps you on your toes. the goal was to create the biggest match of all-time. so it will happen down in miami. my hometown. wrestle mania. broke box office records already in one-day ticket sales. i can't wait. >> you'll be the rock. >> there's always the rock. >> but should we call you dwayne or the rock. what do you prefer? we're just hanging out, what do we call you? >> if we're just hanging out and it's just me and you ladies, as it's treetop lover. >> hello, treetop lover. >> the men can call me sir and we'll be good. >> when we're calling you treetop lover, will you be busting out your ukulele and sing to us? >> i will and i take requests. >> i was surprised to hear that you play the ukulele because you're a big guy and it's a small instrument. i'm heading to the grammys.

is there someone that you listen to that we would be surprised to know that the rock listens to fill in the blank and really likes him or her in just pick one. >> there's sam cooke has always been my all-time favorite. plus, i also love traditional country music as well as r&b. i love jamie johnson. i love great songwriters. i would say sam cooke. >> it's a wide range. >> it's wide. >> can i say treetop lover, what's your girlfriend's name. >> lauren. >> give her a shoutout. >> given lauren a shoutout. i'm cheering you on always. nice to see you. >> come back and see us again. >> i will definitely. thank you. mysterious island opens in theaters tomorrow. >> treetop. >> with treetop lover. >> imagine a world where you're 100 years old and you're just getting started. we'll show you what scientists

are doing to help you turn 150. you're watching "cbs this morning."

♪ in 1850 the average hugh lan life span was 43 years. now it's closer to 80. according to a recent book, some babies born today could live to be 150 years old because science will make it happen. special correspondent jeff glor is with us. jeff? >> charlie, good morning. we learned that silicon valley is the center of this golden age of aging, cutting-edge research and committed billionaires with plenty of cash. so that's where we traveled. >> the more you look into it shall the more you find. >> sonia arrison admits the inspiration pour her latest book came from an unlikely source. >> the swan is back. >> reality tv.

>> flip on halfway through and there's this man and woman on the edge of the bed crying because they were so happy that they had changed their lives getting new clothes and new teeth and a bit of liposuction. it hit me where i'm like, wow, i wonder what else you could do with technology to change your life. >> eight years of research later, she published "100 plus" a book that reads like science fiction but isn't. according to arrison, we're experiencing a longevity revolution, which means pretty soon triple digit life spans won't be special, they'll be standard. >> you think it's possible some of the people born today will be living to 150? >> yes. absolutely. i think my son has a good chance of living to 150. he's two and a half right now. >> that's because scientists are making significant strides. growing new organs from adult human stem cells. creating body parts with 3d printers and the holy grail of

biological engineering using gene therapy to successfully treat diseases like hereditary blindness and leukemia. but all of that takes money. a lot of it. >> three years old and first heard about it. >> venture capitalist peter keel is among a handful of billionaires financing this battle. he considers death a problem that can be solved. all these people and say that death is natural, that it is just part of life and i think nothing could be further from the truth. i think the opposite of life. >> do you think you're closer to solving that problem? >> there's every reason to expect we'll make tremendous progress on had. >> leading to breakthroughs. like when cynthia kenyon found mutating one gene in worms their life span could double. >> the hope is to make a drug that would replicate in humans so that it would allow humans to stay young longer as well. >> to develop this anti-aging

drug for humans, dr. kenyon relies largely on donors like thiel. it's still considered fringe science. outof $31 billion -- only $164 million went to biological research. >> when you talk about this, it scares some people. >> yes, that terminology might scare people. some people are worried we're going to create designer humans or something like that. i think that that's something that we should be concerned about. but what i'm talking about is helping people who are already here live longer and healthier lives. >> for the centenarians, arrison says new rules will accompany longer lives. like sunset clauses in marriages and second or third careers. >> wouldn't want to retire at 65. are you kidding me? >> that's only half your life. >> it would be boring. >> this stuff excites you.

>> it does. it does. you know why, because it gives people options. it allows them to create the life that they really want to live. i mean, i think that's extremely exciting. >> this is great stuff. do you believe this science? >> i think 150 is certainly ambitious. yes, i believe the science. i think that 150 is ambitious. but it's not only the science, but it's the societal changes that take place that need to be discussed. that is the potential sunset clause this marriages. childbirth much later potentially. she talks about a woman giving birth at 70. that happened population. >> she raises that issue. the research shows that populations as they get older, populations level off or go down. >> i was going to say, you talk about in the piece all of these physical changes. what about mentally, is there a concern about keeping your brain that active sm. >> i would say so.

that's part of the careers issue. we're talking about second or even third careers. that is, maybe taking a long sabbatical, what we used to call retirement and going back into the workforce at 90, taking another job. >> gayle raised the issue, as long as you could be in control of all your faculties. >> and coherent. >> i think that's it. one of the issues here is she looks at it like fixing a car. one part of it breaks, and you fix it. you put it back on the road. that is in this case, one part of your body breaks, you fix it. >> we can do it now? >> some of it. the biggest part is the money. if this is going to happen, that would need to go into to make it happen. not happening right away. >> childbirth at 70. on this program note, i'm heading to the staples center live from los angeles tomorrow morning fweerg up for the grammys. the the 54th annual. i was talking to the archbishop.

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