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it is thursday, february 23, 2012. welcome to studio 57. i'm charlie rose. breaking news in afghanistan. two american service members are killed in the latest protests over quran burning. rick santorum feels the heat in last night's debate and we'll get analysis from bob schieffer and talk with robert gibbs about the obama campaign. i'm gayle king. when i see you at 8:00, we'll talk to lara logan about the risk of reporting from the dangerous spots. they may be the most unlikely oscar nominees to walk the red carpet. we'll introduce you today. john miller takes us inside
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about iranian attacks. is weight loss contagious? as we do every morning, we begin with a look at today's eye-opener. your world in 90 seconds. two u.s. soldiers are killed as afghanistan erupts in anti-american violence. >> over the burning of copies of the quran by u.s. soldiers, afghan police struggle to disburse hundreds of protesters trying to break into an american military base. >> the taliban is urging afghans to kill them, beat them and capture them. >> while i was fighting to save the olympics, you were fighting to save the bridge to nowhere. >> piles on front-runner rick santorum. >> you have a television ad that labels him a fake. why? >> because he's a fake. [ laughter ] >> literally a couple of the guys up there were focused on double teaming me. >> if mitt romney and ron paul are actually very good friends. i hope to god they don't ruin it by consummating their
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friendship. >> former university of virginia lacrosse player, george huguely, guilty in the beating death of yeardley love. >> there are no winners in this case. everywhere. >> pharmacist had just had enough when a young guy tries to rob her for the third time. >> check out famed stunt man corliss. >> his wingsuit was working fine until he hits this yar at 120 miles an hour. >> he's got -- >> why did you do that? >> it was ugly. what was ugly? >> everything around. >> and all that matters. >> all three of you on fours on hollywood boulevard and it's okay. >> on "cbs this morning." >> we now present you with scenes from the help. >> we now present you with scenes from the help. >> we really going do this? captioning funded by cbs
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well come to "cbs this morning." there is breaking news out of afghan tan. an afghan soldier has shot and killed two american troops. >> at least four others were wounded along the border. mandy clark is in kabul this morning. what's the latest? >> an afghan official confirms the attack is in retaliation to the quran burning. he said the soldier opened fire with an automatic weapon in eastern afghanistan at on outpost. violent protests are continuing for a third day in kabul. there were around 100 protesters who are pelting police with stones. police responded by opening fire on the crowd, injuring two. >> how many incidents of this burning of qurans are we going to see? is it a building story that will have a serious impact on american presidents in afghanistan? >> well, the main concern really
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for the moment is tomorrow. friday prayers is when you see a lot of crowds on the streets and that has become a traditional day of protest in afghanistan. the last time there was a quran burning, it was a slow burn. the protests got bigger and bigger. and that's really the main concern. >> how does the united states expect to handle this? >> reporter: well, general allen, the commander of nato forces in afghanistan, has led an investigation with afghans. they're trying to be as open as possible to show that they're really investigating the incident so it doesn't happen again. but this investigation has not appeased the afghan people at all. they're tired of apologies. >> afghan parliament is calling for citizens to attack americans. these latest attacks that we've seen, is there a sense that it comes from that call by members of parliament? >> reporter: not necessarily members of parliament. what the people who have the
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most influence are the religious figures. it really dee pepd on what will be said in the mosques on friday. they have the most influence more than the parliamentarians. it's not helpful that the parliamentarians are encouraging attacks on america considering they're our ally. >> mandy, thanks so much. >> reporter: thank you. in politic this morning, lot of talk about the republican presidential candidates meeting last night for yet another high-stakes debate. >> they're five days away from primaries in michigan and arizona and less than two weeks from super tuesday. the latest national polls mitt romney's lead as shrunk to one point. jan crawford is in scottsdale, arizona. jan, good morning >> good morning, charlie. this change dramatically. rick santorum is the new front-runner, romney trying to regain the lead, ron paul remains a player, gingrich plummeted. all that led to fiery exchanges last night, especially involving
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santorum a the candidates clash repeatedly on issues big and small. >> and the government take over healthcare. >> wait a second, wait a second. >> there was a study that just came out. >> the new front-runner and the former slugged it out. >> it would be a difficult task for someone with the model with with with obama care to be the nominee of our party. >> let's not forget that four years ago you not only endorsed me, you said this is the guy who is really conservative and we can trust him. >> for most of the night, santorum was under siege. ron paul hit hardest. >> you have a new television ad that labels him april fake. why? >> because he's a fake. [ laughter ] >> rick santorum fought back. >> it was the most fiscally conservative senator in the congress in the 12 years that i was there. >> paul kept swinging. >> that's a copout when you compare yourself to the other members of congress.
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the people are sick and tired of the members of congress. >> left the impression that santorum was just another washington insider. and with santorum struggling to get his footing, newt gingrich returned to form. attacking the media and bashing president obama. >> if we're going to have a debate about who the extremist is on the issues, it is president obama. >> when asked about birth control, gingrich defended republicans and lashed out at the media for not investigating why obama as a state senator opposed a bill to protect fetuses and botched abortions. >> you did not once in the 2008 in the elite media ask why barack obama voted in favor of legalizing infant side. let's be clear here. >> romney came out strong, hitting obama repeatedly on economic and social issues, including the decision to require religious institutions providing employees birth control. >> i don't see we've seen the attack on religious conscience
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and freedom and tolerance that we've seen under barack obama. >> did this debate really change this race? maybe a little. santorum just didn't have that standout night he needed o close the deal. gingrich delivering that strong performance may have gotten voters back from santorum looking for the alternative to mitt romney. of course, if voters remain divided by santorum and gingrich, that means the real winner last night was mitt romney. >> jan, thank you very much. chief washington correspondent, face the nation host, bob schieffer is here. >> good morning, charlie. rick santorum did not do what he had to do. >> you know, i don't think this was a debate that changed very much, quite frankly. it was obviously santorum versus romney. you know, i suppose the people that liked him going in thought he did well and those that liked mitt romney going in, thought he did well. i don't think there was any great moment. but i tell you, i'm kind of like
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gail collins in the new york time. she felt like when the last episode was over of down ton abby. i think they've been great and learned a lot about each of the candidates. i think last night it was a two-person show. but i'm not sure i would pick anyone as a winner last night. >> where do you think the race is now for the republican nomination? >> right there. i think it's going to be between santorum and romney going in. i don't think romney has gotten it wrapped up yet and may not for a while. i hi this thing is going to go on. it was interesting last night that gingrich was almost like the senior spokesman or the senior statesman who just from time to time sort of offered an observation. but he was never really in it seemed to me. it was a back and forth between romney and santorum. i thought the best moment of the night was when they asked ron paul when they asked santorum
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why he was a fake in the ad. because he's a fake. >> compare yourself to congress people and he said that's a silly game. >> yeah. >> never turns out very well. we want to bring in robert gibbs, senior adviser to president obama's election campaign. he's joining us from the key state of florida where the president will attend fundraisers later today. nice to have you with us this morning. >> good morning. bob pointed out there doesn't seem to be april winner. does this change at all the focus of the obama campaign or does it remain fairly squarely on mitt romney with a little bit of santorum. >> i think this is certainly going to be an interesting race in the next few days and the next few weeks. i'd pick up on what you guys have said this morning. that is, if you're watching this debate at home, there's in the a lot of positive visions being offered for how you want to take this country forward. there was a lot of negative distortions and exaggerations. i mean if mitt romney or describe himself as resolute in this debate, i think that gives you a sense of just how surreal
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things were. >> resolute was the word he described himself had asked to do that by the moderator. it seems clear that all the questions center around the president, one having to do with the intrusion of government, whether about the church or some of the aspects of healthcare. is that emerging question of the general election? >> look i think the emerging question of this campaign is going to be strengthening this economy and putting people back to work. that's what the president is talking about. the president made a decision, i think struck the right tone to protect both women's health to preserve religious freedom. but i think when you look at what the republicans have talked about in these debate, they're offering very little in the way of positive visions. mitt romney spends his time rolling out a tax plan that's a windfall for wealthy american and will cost trillions and trillions of dollars and doesn't even attempt to pay for it. so i think, you know,
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republicans are doubling down on the disastrous policies that got us into this mess as the president continues to talk about how to put people back to work and strengthening this economy. >> is the president worried about gas prices and what might happen with respect to iran? >> absolutely charlie. the president is going to be in miami later today to talk about energy policy and gas prices. and i think we're going to have to have an adult conversation with the country, first and foremost, it's important for viewers to understand the number of operational oil rigs has quadrupled since the president took office in this country. but we have to understand this. there's -- we control 2% of the world's oil reserves and use 25% of its oil on any given day. we're not going to be able to drill ourselves out of this problem. we're going to have to drill, we're going to have to invest in alternative and clean energy sources like solar and wind and biodiesel. we're going to have to look for
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more natural gas. we have to do a whole host of things. >> i want to take advantage of the fact that i have the moderator of face the nation here to ask questions. >> do you x robert, think that these -- let me put it to you this way. they're saying we've had plenty of these debate. a lot of people saying this is the last one, last one scheduled. do you want to see more of them? do you think this is helping the president or hurting the president when the republicans come out here so often as they have? >> i think if you're an independent or an untea sided voter and you tuned in to last night's debate, i don't doubt at all that you have been turned off by the type of nasty, negative carpet bombing distortions on each other and on the president's record. i don't sense that they're talking about the issues that people care most about. that's what the president is spending his time talking about. i don't think there's any doubt that we got more out of the show
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than we have out of the 20 debates. >> what did you get out of downton abby, robert? >> i watch all the episodes. it's a wonderful miniseries. i can can hardly wait for the third season. >> you'd love to have a house like that when you leave the white house? >> yeah, a couple, sure. >> robert -- >> filming now. >> robert gibbs, thank up very much for joining us from florida. bob schieffer nice to have you here. you can watch face the nation this sunday morning with chris christie on. security forces in iraq. the targets of a series of deadly attacks this morning. a string of car bombs and shootings in 12 cities lasted two and a half hours. at least 60 people were killed, 225 others wounded. the worst of it was in baghdad. the attacks appear to be the work of al qaeda militants trying to destabilize the government. the u.n. says it now has a list of syrian government officials who may be
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investigated for crimes against humanity. in syria this morning, the city of homs is once again under attack by government forces. some 30 people were killed there yesterday, including two western journalists. last night, clarissa ward told scott pelley how hard it is to get the story out of syria. >> the dangers of reporting inside syria and the difficulties are enumerable from the logistics of having spotty telecommunications to the fears of being in constant firefight and shelling and knowing that you're there legally. the government does not want you to be there. that in fact by virtue of being there, you are indeed something of a target. >> in domestic news, george huguely is waiting to hear how long he will be in prison. he found the former university of virginia lacrosse star guilty of second degree murdered and recommended a 26-year sentence. whit johnson is at the
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courthouse this morning in charlottesville, virginia. good morning. >> good morning, erica. the question has been did george huguely intend to kill her on that night when he barged into her apartment in a drunken rage. wednesday, the jury made clear that huguely is a killer but not one who premeditated his crime. some overwhelmed by emotion, george huguely's family burst out of the courtroom. the final result wednesday night summed up in the pouring rain by prosecutor dave chapman. >> there are no winners in this case. there's nothing but loss everywhere. >> after nine hours of jury deliberations, the 24-year-old former uva lacrosse player listened with no reaction as the judge read him his verdict. the jury deciding his vicious assault on yeardley love caused his ex-girlfriend's death. later, during the sentencing phase, huguely was crying, his head down as love's mother
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sharon delivered a tearful testimony. every year that goes by, she said, i'm afraid i'm for getting little pieces about her. love's sister lex i was the lex to break down on the stand. it hurts so bad. i've never wanted something so bad but to see her face again. >> we hope that they feel some solace from the outcome. >> love's family later wrote in a statement, yeardley's contagious smile, kind spirit and gentle touch have left this world. but we know that heaven has an angel like no other. the lacrosse star was only weeks away from graduating before being found on her bed face down in a pool of blood. her life taken by an abusive, jealous ex-boyfriend with a serious drinking problem. huguely's attorneys who claimed love's death was only a tragic accident, vowed to keep fighting for their client. >> we look forward to some corrections in what happened here tonight. >> now, the jury recommended
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that george huguely serve 25 years in prison for the second degree murder conviction, plus an additional year for grand larceny for stealing love's laptop computer. the judge will ultimately make the final decision. that could still be months away. >> whit. >> thank you. >> time now to show you some of this morning's headlines. the wall street journal reports that google and other online giants have changed their minds and support a plan to say do not track their internet use. this morning in the new york times, bill gates writes, shame not the solution. for poor teacher qualities. the microsoft chairman supports higher education standards, but says identifying the worst teachers by name will only make reform efforts that much harder. a story in the washington post says more teenagers are smoking marijuana than driving. 19% of teens in a new survey say they have gotten behind the wheel after smoking pot. the l.a. times headlines a high school soccer match in san diego that took two days to
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the confrontation between iran and the west could be played out right here in the u.s. john miller will show us -- >> could you see them striking on u.s. soil? >> john miller will show us what he's learned about iranian agents watching u.s. interests and what the fbi is doing about that today. we'll also look at a museum dedicated to african-american history going up on washington's historic national mall. you're watching "cbs this morning."
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you've heard about it. seeing it, though, is something else. this is high flying jeff corliss. he's been profiled on "60 minutes." just releasing video of his recent accident that left him with broken legs. he was going over 100 miles an hour when he hit that rock ledge. the fbi is holding a highly classified conference today with heads of all of the field offices. the subject is iran and the possibility of iranian attacks inside the u.s. >> john miller is here showing
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something have strange happened today in trenton. trenton, new jersey, the capital of new jersey, something very strange happened. take a look at this. >> whether or not to redefine hundreds of years of societal and we -- and religious tradition should not be decided by -- >> okay. welcome back to "cbs this morning." >> i got nothing. i got nothing. >> me either. >> let's move on to some more serious fare this morning. we talk so much about the rising tensions between iran and the west. the president's national security adviser is just back from israel. it's believed that tom donnell
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asked israel not to attack nuclear officials. now, meantime officials in the u.s. are trying to strengthen ties between police and intelligence agencies. john miller says there's a growing possibility of an attack on the u.s. sirg willing the wagons. >> that's right, erica. the u.s. is working overtime across intelligence agencies to identify, monitor and disrupt the surrogate groups like hezbollah. they're talking about this for two reasons. one an uptick of surveillance of targets overseas. and two, a rash of coordinated plots against israeli targets in four countries. cbs news has learned that u.s. intelligence officials have observed suspected iranian agents conducting surveillance on u.s. government buildings more than a dozen times in the last year. in europe, south america, as well as suspected probes in
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bahrain. headquarters to the u.s. navy's fifth fleet. today, ralph boelter, the top counterterrorism official summoned the heads of 56 field offices to a classified 90-minute video conference to underscore that the bureau remains concerned iran would consider attacks in the united states. already at the national counterterrorism center, analysts are carefully studying a rash of recent attacks against israeli targets in india, georgia and bangkok. and they expect to see more. >> that's the fear. the fear is that would be the type of attack we'd see increasing in frequency. in seriousness as leading up to a conflict. >> tom betro is the former director of the naval criminal investigative service. ncis. >> could you see them striking on u.s. soil? >> yes, i could see them striking on u.s. soil. >> and would that be iranian
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agents or would that be a surrogate group? >> i think it would be potentially a combination of both. i think they know psychologically, the impact that an attack on u.s. soil would have. >> in fact, last october the fbi charged this suspected iranian agent with plotting to assassinate the saudi ambassador in washington, d.c. and since 9/11 at least three suspected reconnaissance operations against targets including the new york city subway system have been disrupted by police and the fbi. tom betro, the former ncis director was a a key leader of the task force setting up iraq's operation. he said iran is a bigger challenge. >> we don't have as much intelligence about their networks as we would have had against the iraqis. i would say that the urgency, because of that type of warfare, that unconvention warfare is
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part of iran's battle plan. it's much more important to aggressively disrupt those activities. >> why wouldn't they be worried that some kind of attack like this would provoke the very thing they don't want to see, an attack against iran and its oil fields and its nuclear facilities? >> i think the u.s. intelligence take on this is that an attack against the u.s. would come after an israeli attack as part of the retribution for support. but i think the other thing that general clapper, the director of national intelligence said when he testified before the intelligence committees, was iran is calculus about whether to do that. based on how much heat they're feeling in the economic sanctions that came after the plot on the saudi ambassador in washington. >> they believe that was directly connected, that plot, the to the iranian government,
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not an offshoot group that was not a direct part of the government. >> they do, charlie. they didn't believe it all at once. they looked at it with a great deal of skept tichl. they looked at the go between with the mexican drug cartel and found he had keks with t connec with the special forces field team, it became clear to them that the story was as it appeared. >> if we were to get to this point, who is the person in iran who would make that call? is it the ayatollah khamenei or the ahmadinejad? >> it would be the supreme leader who they believe -- it's interesting because that classified fbi meeting across the 56 field offices directedly headquarters today examines the other end of that question, which is whoever makes that call, who would receive that call here and have they doubled
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down on all their sources, have they checked all their old cases, hezbollah cases, fundraising cases. have they beaten the bushes to make sure they're focused on this, just this new york and washington and l.a., but across country. >> when you say receive the call, you mean the agents who receive the call? >> that's right. >> just clarifying. >> the purpose of the conference is to make sure that everybody appreciates the urgency and touches all the bases and the agencies are connected? >> that's right. i've been to the conferences before and they go around and say how many cases do you have against iran, human sources, wires, are we tapping that. are you feeding the information back here so we have the big picture and stay on? >> not just in the united states, other american embassies he might attack as well. >> frankly, many believe that's the more likely scenario, to attack the u.s. targets overseas. we've seen models of that back to '92 and '94 where they
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good morning washington. a long time dream is coming true in the nation's capitol. a groundbreaking ceremony was held on wednesday for the national museum of african-american history and culture. >> chip reid looks at the special meaning of this museum and its location. >> it is a groundbreaking years the newest smithsonian museum dedicated to the history and culture of african-americans.
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>> this is an idea whose time has come. >> the museum will be located on the national mall. >> it was on this ground long ago that lives were once cradled. hundreds of thousands once marched for jobs and for freedom. it was here that the pillars of our democracy were built often by black hands. >> welcoming to everyone. phil freelon is one of the architects. he says the museum draws on west african influences. a contrast to the neoclassical museums nearby. >> the site, the location is imbued with meaning and power and so we were very delighted, i think the most important decision that was made on this project early on was to select the site. >> it's a short walk from both the lincoln memorial where martin luther king delivered his "i have a dream" speech and pennsylvania avenue, where the
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ku klux klan marched. lonnie bunch is not shieg away from controversy. >> how do you think people in the museum will respond to a ku klux klan robe? >> some will be surprised. some will be angry. how dare you have that in a museum that tells a story. but my feeling is that you can't understand the heights without understanding the depths. >> taxpayers will pay half of the $500 million cost. the rest will come from private donations. it won't open to the public for another three years. a short wait, if you consider that the museum was first proposed 99 years ago. for "cbs this morning," chip reid, washington. i love the story. phil freelon is a north carolina architect. an african-american. his wife is a wonderful jazz singer. i was in north carolina several years ago, he was working on this. he was proud to be able to do this. it's a long time coming. this is a good moment for america >> it's a great moment. amazing to think, as chip pointed out, that this was
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if you're wondering why i'm speaking the pope talk, it's because today is ash wednesday. the beginning of lent. wherein good catholics like myself make a personal sacrifice for 40 days to become closer to god. last year i gave up something truly important to me as a catholic. being catholic. [ laughter ] it was tough. it was tough. but i did get some great bar mitzvah gifts. gayle king has a look at what's coming up in the next hour. don't you, gayle? >> i certainly do. no pope talk in the 8:00 hour today. charlie, i'm in the green room. jeff glor is here too. going to take a deeper look at
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the dangers reporters face covering conflict overseas and then live with lara logan approximate what it's like to work in high risk environments and lisa kudrow visits studio 57. everybody is excited to see brad and angelina walk the red carpet but maybe you should look out for another hot couple. andrew and gigi. mow rocca has more. getting back with your ex is a bad idea. my name is gayle. it's a bad idea. oh, it's not about me. i'm sorry. getting back with your ex-is a bad idea. i have a million stories from the naked city. you're watching "cbs this morning." your local news is next.
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the question people have is -- >> it was ugly. >> what was ugly? >> everything around was ugly. >> it was a bad emotional time. nasty things were being said in the media. it was just not a good emotional time. and i -- barbra, i take real responsibility for my ownby hafr at all times. but i won't take responsibility if i have not made a decision that i can live with. >> star jones returns to the view and so do the fireworks. it's 8:00. welcome back to "cbs this morning." i'm gayle king. there were a couple of no she didn't moments when you were watching the view yesterday. i thought everybody handled themselves and was authentic to
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themselves did you see, charlie sm. >> i did not. >> you missed yesterday. >> can't imagine where i might have been. >> it was good tv. >> hello, charlie. >> good morning. >> you know, my friend, erica hill. >> hello erica. >> i didn't see it either. >> we have to turn now to something that's very important, which we've discussed a bit yesterday. we know now that killing two western journalists took place in syria. we reported yesterday that reporter marie colvin, remi ochlik. >> jeff glor has more in thorng. >> it can be easy to assume that media and internet can expose everything. that the slaughter will end simply because it should. unfortunately, that's not the case. witnesses are critical. as colvin and ochlik well knew. >> it's just one of many stories. >> this was one of marie
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colvin's last reports. >> his house was hit by a shell. >> a helpless child dying in homs because the syrian government won't stop firing on its own people. >> why is it important, do you think, to see these images? why is it important for you to be there? >> i feel very strongly that they should be shown. these are 28,000 civilians, men, women and children, hiding, being shelled, defenseless. >> just hours after that, colvin was killed. along with french photographer remi ochlik inside their makeshift media center. colvin said syria was the worst conflict she has ever covered. that's saying something. she lost an eye in sri lanka in 2001. >> they're hitting civilian buildings, absolutely mercilessly and without caring. >> but as colvin insisted, our mission is to speak the truth to power. we send home that first rough draft of history. some might call that bravado.
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many would say bravery. make no mistake, colvin appreciated the difference. she was apparently just about to leave. the situation had gotten that much worse for journalists. her mother, rosemarie. >> she said she was on a very important story that she wanted to finish and she would come out today. one day. one day would have made all the difference. >> since the uprising against the assad regime began in syria last year, seven journalists have died in country. including anthony shadid after an apparent asthma attack. some intelligence reports suggest that colvin and other members of the media were being directly targeted. >> we absolutely honor and praise the bravery of reporters who are placing themselves in extremely dangerous situations in order to bring a story of oppression and brutality to the
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world. >> a total of 19 journalists have died since the arab spring began. marie colvin now becomes the latest. it is unfortunately, hard to imagine she will be the last. >> joining us now is chief foreign affairs correspondent lara logan who knew marie colvin and knows the dangers that journalists face all too well. good morning, lara. >> good morning. >> tell me about her and how she felt about reporting and who she was. >> reporter: well, you couldn't be part of the foreign media world and travel to these places and not know who marie colvin was. she was a legend in her own right. and a pioneer in many ways. as a woman, she started to do this work a long, long time ago when it was more of a man's world than it still is today in some ways. marie was -- this was her life. she was completely committed to
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doing what she believed in. you know, you hear that in her words and in her reporting. just hours before she was killed, it was always about that for her. it was about bearing witness and giving a voice to the people that don't have one. as she said, so significantly, you know, if you're not on the ground to witness what was really happening in homs, then the syrian government could write whatever narrative they wanted to write and there would be no counter narrative to that. marie understood that only third parties, only independent people could fulfill that role. as much as citizen journalists and syrians are doing their best, the syrian government, it's too easy for them to just knock that aside and knock it down. so marie took incredible risks to go and do that. that was completely in line with the person that she was. she was no stranger to risks. she knew what she was doing. she was one of the most experienced. and she was extremely smart about the decisions that she made, which is how she stayed
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alive for so long. >> lara, there's been speculation and reports that maybe foreign journalists are targeted. do you think that's the case? you know the subject very well. >> reporter: you know, the wonderful thing for the syrian government in this situation is that nobody will ever be able to prove what happened on the ground in hosni mubarams. is it a coincidence that she was doing significant reporting a few hours before she was killed, many people in that world don't believe in coincidences. we're not supposed to be able to point a finger at them. that's a function of war. the chaos on the ground. the fact that the syrian government has done a lot to keep foreign journalists out of their country. they've gone further than any other government that's faced the uprisings and been successful in trying to control the narrative. if you think about what the syrian government has to gain, in many ways they can't lose,
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they send a message to all other journalists that they're not safe. if they come to syria. they then follow it up by saying any journalists in the country illegally should identify themselves and have their status rectified. they're able to go after the journalists that are there and send them a more chilling message it if the deaths of marie and remi were not enough. this is a row jeem that on a daily basis is slaughtering muslim women, children and men. and this uprising began with the torture and murder of syrian children. so it's safe to assume that being a journalist offers not only no protection, but puts you right in the firing line. because exactly what you are doing, what defines you and your work, the flow of information undermining the syrian narrative, what the syrian government want the world to believe is happening in its country. that's why you're there and
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they've made it very clear how they he feel about that. they don't want you there. >> it's not just syria that's made it difficult for journalists. what have you noticed in terms of a change as you've tried to cover the most recent conflict? >> you're absolutely right. it's not just syria. it's every one of these regimes that stands to lose everything. that's the thing that you have to remember as a journalist. when you look at what's happening in the middle east and since the arab spring, these are our governments that are about to lose everything they have. they have nothing to lose by playing it nice. they really don't. and the way they treat their own people is any standard to go by, that's what you can expect. when i -- it's well-known that i was attacked in egypt and many people were surprised it hear me say in the weeks and month afterwards that it was elements of the regime trying to discredit the revolution in egypt who attacked me.
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people thought but the revolution has won. the people have won. that wasn't the case at all as is obvious. in the year that follows, people are still fighting for their freedom in egypt. if anything, that fight is far, far from over. these regimes will stop at nothing and journalists today are in a very difficult position in the middle east because they can't be independent third party witnesses anymore. it's not the same fight. you know, we're a very high-powered minister dee declared journalists the enemy of the state. that's pretty much the staple for the governments that stand to lose anything. you are the enemy of the state. by virtue of what you do. you cannot be considered a third party in their eyes. it changes the stake. marie colvin said this is the most dangerous conflict she's covered. as jeff glor stated, it's really
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something by her standards. >> you said a minute ago, lara, and it gave me chills when you said it again. when you were attacked in egypt. i remember that story, it was brutal and frightening. you could have lost your life. i'm wondering when you hear stories about the death of marie colvin and what you just described, does it give you pause. i admire you so much. this is not something i could ever do. do you ever have second thoughts about it? >> gayle, what i'm going to say now you probably would not expect me to say. when i hear about marie's death, i feel guilty. i feel a little bit responsible. i feel a little bit like a fraud. >> responsible how? >> for doing what she was doing. for being there on the ground, like marie was, telling the story of people whose voices cannot otherwise be heard. whose lives otherwise mean
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nothing. because if you're not there to record the truth about what's happening to them, then it can't be stopped. no government can ever be pushed into stopping it. and it's worth noting, gayle, that it's interesting that the syrian government is allowed to get away with slaughtering its own people with relatively little reaction from the rest of the world. one the major reasons for that is that syria is like a clandestine country for rent. it holds the secrets of a lot of major powers from russia to the united states. and that's one of the reasons that you don't see the rest of the world clamoring to get involved in syria. it's a major reason. so i feel like what marie was doing, that's what i was meant to be doing. that i should be there on the ground as well. and i know that i'm not alone in that feeling. a lot of journalists who do this work for the same reasons feel that way. and we believe in that. that it's our responsibility to do it. and so it's very hard to hear about this happening to marie.
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it's always hardest to hear about it happening to one of the ones you know and that you know to be smart. because some people go in and do crazy things. not all of them. not most of them. but chris hon dress killed in libya, marie, these are the people who knew how to navigate a terrible situation like homs. asthma resaid, you have to be smart about the decisions you make. it's not smart for me to go into a place like syria when i don't know my capacity to deal with it anymore and also, i'm a very public easy target for the syrian regime. i have to factor that in now. which is very uncomfortable thing for me. i don't like it at all. i'm very good at operating out of the spot height and now i'm in the spotlight and i -- you know, i would rather be out of
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it. >> all right. lara, thank you so much for joining us this morning. >> jeff, great pi have you heard that going back to your ex is a bad idea? is that really true? we'll show you what a new scientific study found out. you're watching "cbs this morning." they can hit you year round... indoors or out. achoo! oh to have relief. prescription nasonex is clinically proven to help relieve nasal allergy symptoms...
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as we looked around the web this morning, as we do everybody morning, we found a few reasons to make a long story short. a vatican website said you can follow twitter -- he will tweet some of the them at pope to you vatican. many of the key ideas fit nice loy into 140 characters. britain's website has a story of public school teachers in new york getting plastic
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welcome back to "cbs this morning." >> early in the broadcast we reported on the battle for syria, the dproeg tension between iran and the west. here to talk more about that is retired general james jones. he's the former national security adviser to president obama and the kman dant of the marine corps. we're pleased to have him here. he's well qualified to talk about the important issues that
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face this country and the world. let me begin with iran. your successor, tom donnell was in israel. where do you think this question of what iran might do and what the west might do in response is? >> sure, this is a long-standing problem. very complex. at the outket of the obama administration or during my first two years, the president did exactly what he said he was going to do. he was going to extend the hand of reason and peace and see what what happened overtly and covertly. we did that for the better part of two years. our friends the turks tried to influence them as well. there was always a cat and mouse game. at the end of the day, they have not shown themselves willing to be trusted and have not responded to even the logical offer of saying we don't care if you have nuclear power. we'll help you get nuclear power
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as long as it's for peaceful use. between the ieaa and the national security council, the so-called p 5 plus one. we've made many overture that is are reasoned, logical and would appeal -- >> why do you think they've not been accepted. >> they've made the calculus that they prefer to be on the outside of this problem, not join the rest of the world in the threat of proliferation and the spread of nuclear weapons, the weapons of mass destruction. >> do you believe that sanks, including an oil embargo can convince them to make a rational decision? >> i haven't seen the evidence of that. i do think their behavior is indicative of the fact that the sanctions are hurting them because they are really squirming. they're doing things that are predictable. threatening people, cutting off oil to oil to a couple of
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countries. they're threatening hormuz on o the access of energy through the straits. that's symptomatic of a regime that is trying to rally its people in support of its policies. but there's also in my view, a hint of desperation about things. i think the sanctions are hurting. we know that skyrocketing inflation, their access to capital is diminished. people are unhappy. we also know that the iranian people were the first ones. there was a persian spring, really before an arab spring. >> following the election? >> exactly. there's a deep resentment there in the fabric of iranian society towards our government and -- >> they made it there as an -- it was rally the national is particular spirit of the iranian people. >> that's what the government would hope to do. there's a lot of saber rattling
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going on. in my days as national security adviser, we spent an awful lot of time with israel and russia in particular during the so-called recess days where we really got together and shared a lot of intelligence and came to a kind of common understanding of what -- what is the status of their nuclear program and what is the point of no return? when i left office over a year ago, we felt that we had a reasonable time frame. we know that they were having problems with the program with the centrifuges and things like that. so i think successor's trip is one that i have made in the past. >> it's one you know very well. i'm sorry for interrupting you. i'm concerned about the clock. because we want to talk about syria while you're here. we were talking about the death of the two journalists while covering the story in syria. now i hear reports that maybe what we need to do is arm the
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opposition to president assad. do you think that's a good idea? >> well, you know, i would leave it to people who have access to more, much more information than i do. i do think that it's very important that we and our friends and allies have a plan to put in place the day afa sad leaves office. >> do you believe that's coming? >> i personally believe there's a high probability that he will have to leave office one way or the other. >> do you believe anybody -- have you heard anybody say they don't believe that's the reality, that he'll have to leave or be forced to leave? >> most of the people that i talk to and this would include people that i respect and know in the arab world, believe that assad cannot survive much longer. and so in that case, we have to be very agile and quick.
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you can do that in different ways. you can analyze what forces might come to the fore immediately. they could be hijacked by radical elements. that's not what the people had in mind by the way when they took to the street and put their lives on the line. in syria, there's a tribal influence and it seems to me that a wise thing do is meet with these people, perhaps in jordan and turkey and out of the country. to start putting elements of a plan together for what, not only the united states but the rest of the world, including the arab world is prepared do to bring this greater transparency more freedom in future economic opportunity for the people of syria. >> i think that meeting is taking place. there is schedule to have those meetings. what would you need to know before you were in favor of supplying arms to the rebels? what fact would there be? >> obviously in an ideal world,
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you'd like to sit down at the table with them and say, okay, who are you? what are you going to do with this? what is your vision for the future of the country post if somebody were successful and causing the president to step down? so there's no perfect solution here but we have example after example of other countries where we've let iran, for example, 30 years ago, that was a revolution that was designed to give more transparency to the people and it was hijacked by radical elements. if that happens in the arab world or at least in syria and egypt and libya and other places, then we have maybe a different world. but there's a risk here. but it could be an acceptable risk if we join the -- if we have a set of solutions to offer and put on the table that
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includes not just sending in armed forces but economic assistance, governance and rule of law programs and a kind of a holistic approach to bringing about the better outcome for the people concerned. >> thank you so much for coming. one thing is clear. that a lot of countries are watching this with great interest. china, north korea and other places. thank you. >> if i could just add one more thing. i think that this century announce the potential of the end of tyrants in the world. >> that's good newsment. >> thank you. >> good to see you. >> thank you, gayle. she will always be feeb toy her friends anyway. but lisa kudrow is much more than a sitcom star. we'll
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in her show time series web therapy, emmy winning actress lisa kudrow, emmy winning, plays a therapist who cares more about herself than her patients. she's so inpatient her online therapy sessions last only three minutes. >> before we do this or sign documents, i was wondering whether you might be willing to go back to a 50-minute hour since we'll be doing it together. >> no. absolutely not. it's three-minute sessions which is why it works. nothing you've said in your 50 minutes sessions has been slightly interesting until this. >> lisa kudrow, welcome. >> what kind of character is fiona? >> she's impatient and superior and judgmental and appropriate and the worst person to be a therapist. >> does she have the credentials to be a therapist? >> none at all.
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she has a finance background. self-serving thing. >> i'm wondering if there's something to a three-minute therapy session. i was in marital counseling back in the day. i guess i was taking too long because the therapist literally fell asleep. >> really? >> or your problems were not that interesting. >> i thought the problems were interesting. but they literally fell asleep. maybe fiona is on to something with three minutes. >> something about this too, you produce, act, write. >> yes. >> created this as a web? >> it's also a web series. it still lives as a web series. don ruth, who is a fantastic writer/director and dan is in that clip. >> i love saying the name. >> we write lines and then it's improvised. i it's fun for people who come in and they improvise and takes half a day to shoot. >> she's got meryl streep. very cool. rosie o'donnell.
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>> meryl streep plays a gay conversion therapist. >> you've gotten really great stars to come on and play with you. >> i know. that's been really lucky. from the very beginning, we called up jane lynch and said we're doing this web series. do you want to do it? she said sure. people want to play with us. then as they see it, you know, they say i think this is really funny. that's when i pounce and say great, do you want to do it? we'll sign you up. >> how did you come up with the idea? >> all right. i just thought because of what's going on -- what was going on at the time, at the time. everything goes so fast. it's only like a few years ago. people are doing everything at their computer now, their entertainment while at work. they'll watch these short things. a lot of errands are being done on liechblt i thought it would be fun -- >> therapy. >> i'm so technically challenged. for you lisa kudrow, you will forever be phoebe. that was a part of your life. i realize that was then, this is
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now. do you miss her? >> yes. i think we were also pretty appreciative of what and grateful for what we had with each other and in the show while we were doing it, too. there are no regrets. you know, no missed opportunities or appreciation as far as that goes at all. >> when you're traveling and on a plane, people come up and mostly want to talk about phoebe? >> not as much anymore. because now the really fun thing is people are coming up and saying i love your show and someone will say i love, who do you think you are? people will say, no i'm talking about web therapy. that's very fun. they all mostly know me from friends but it's nice there are other things now. >> you're the mother of a teenager. what's that like for you? >> he's a sweet -- he's really sweet. so we don't have much nastiness. it's that normal, how was school? fine, same as always. i don't want to talk. >> this is what i figure. this is what i think works.
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you have to ask them a question that doesn't require a mono sill ab i can answer. they have to come up with something. >> he's smarter than that. >> come up with that. >> he's smarter than that. >> thank you, lisa. continued success. >> thank you. >> great to have you here. all right, lisa. here's a tough decision. buy an apartment or make a movie? we'll meet a young couple whose impulsive gamble could pay off big time with oscar gold. i like it. you're watching "cbs this morning."
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mo rocca has their surprising hollywood story. >> ever wonder how you would react if you were nominated for an oscar? filmmakers andrew bow letter and gigi causey are an ordinary couple who took an extraordinary gamble and are now academy award nominees for their short film time freem. >> it happened. we both freaked out and cried and then was calm for a second and then you cried again. >> yes. >> oh, my god. >> to appreciate andrew and gigi's excitement, you have to go back in time. their wedding three years ago. some not so glamorous tv and movie jobs. and the dream of buying an apartment in new york. >> whose idea was it to say, you know what, let's not buy an apartment,let make a movie? >> it was my idea. i kind of said, you know, this
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isn't going to work. if we buy and apartment, this is what we're doing for the rest of our lives, for the next decade. i said why don't we make a movie instead. we did. >> this is right after the economy had cratered, right? >> right. a good time to buy an apartment. maybe not a good time for a risky artistic venture. >> make a quick trip. >> to where? >> they shot their movie in four days for $25,000. their entire nest egg. >> the idea behind time freak, how did that come up? >> time freak is a joke i shared with friends for many years. what's the worst thing you could do with a time machine? it's like oh, what did you have for lunch. i had a sandwich. if i had a time machine i'd go back and have a salad. >> time freak had an inauspicious launch, rejected by sundance and tribeca and telluride. >> that started to feel bad. >> made you start thinking about
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the apartment then. >> i did. >> i'll say only faintly. i still felt we had done the right thing but it was discouraging. >> undaut daunted gigi submit td for oscar consideration. >> i took a picture. >> you took a picture of yourself -- of my hand handing the box over to the guy. i was very excited. >> it's on honor just to be submitted. >> gigi causey. suddenly, gigi and andrew were sharing the stage at the oscar luncheon with names like clooney, spielberg and streep. >> i turn around and i see my mother and meryl streep in an embrace. i'm sitting like that's meryl streep, she's hugging my mother. my mom turns around, gigi, this is meryl streep. i'm like, i know it's meryl streep. what are you doing hugging her? >> there's me, gigi's there.
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>> this is a great row here. >> meryl streep, brad pitt, rooney mara. >> you're eek which distant from -- >> they got official academy award nominee sweat shirts. >> do you play pickup basketball or something? >> i'm going to. i don't. but i'm going to start. >> their week has been filled with pre-oscar hoopla all building toward the big night. >> maybe the most important question, who will you wear? >> i will be wearing a rental from mr. tux ed owe. renting is the new buying. >> i have a dress that i found at a thrift shop. >> thrift store, rental. you'll both look great and you're saving for the next movie. >> how has it affected your marriage? i mean, this whole excitement. it must be -- >> good. >> wonderful. obviously our wedding and our marriage is something that we celebrate and a memory that we
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cherish. >> blows it away. >> no. the thing is -- >> i barely remember my wedding after the oscar nomination. >> we did this together and it was kind of like the extension of our post wedding plan. this was our future -- i'm getting emotional. >> they say if they could use that time machine from their movie, they wouldn't change a thing. >> oh, wow. >> for "cbs this morning," i'm mo rocca in hollywood. >> how great is the story. >> love them. >> i wish i was an oscar voter. >> andrew. >> if i was an oscar voter, i would vote for you. >> we got the story from our great friends attica ban a. our camera operators. >> come on, dave. wave at the camera. andrew and gigi are their friends. >> it pays to know somebody on "cbs this morning." >> just call dave if you need help for anything. >> we're pull for you andrew and gigi. a great, great story. >> congratulations and best of luck on sunday night.
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