. good morning. it is thursday, march 15, 2012. i'm charlie rose. in washington. breaking news from afghanistan. defense secretary panetta met this morning with president karzai in an attempt to prevent a meltdown between the two nations. wall street react to the bombshell accusation of a former goldman sachs banker. i'm gayle king in new york at the cbs broadcast center. a controversial documentary about bullying is causing a stir. we'll talk with harvey weinstein about that. when i see you at 8:00, will ferrell is in la casa. we'll explain. women don't need a pap smear every year. how long should you wait in between tests?

luck runs out for hbo much the cable network shuts down one of its high-profile series after another horse dies. first, as we do every morning, we begin with today's eye-opener. your world in 90 seconds. for this war, we owe it to them to stick to this mission. >> defense secretary panetta meets with president karzai in the wake of the shooting massacre. >> flown out of afghanistan to another detention center. it's believed that secretary leon panetta might have been the intended target. this is the story. >> goldman sachs executive goes out with a bang blasting the firm in an op-ed resignation. >> pr nightmare. >> the chairman of gold man says the allegations do not reflect our values. >> the out going debt riding. i have seen five different managing directors refer to their clients as muppets.

>> some of them actually were muppets. unfortunately, ernie took a real bath. i was referred to by many in my state as. [ speaking spanish ] >> i made a lot of money. i'm not going to apologize for that. >> romney won america samoa. he always does well in islands. that's where his money lives. >> last day blagojevich is -- before he trades his civilian clothes. >> i'll see you around. >> president obama and first lady michelle hosted their sixth state dinner. this one honoring english prime minister david cameron. >> the new jersey lottery winner claimed the entire jackpot was his. the jury disagreed and lopes says he was robbed. >> that breakout. >> the animals got loose and some of them are still roaming around. >> and all that matters. >> charlize theron is a new mom.

a ski resort has posted a video of a possum riding on a tiny little snowboard. >> on "cbs this morning." >> that's better than a >> on "cbs this morning." >> that's better than a snowboarding opossum, ain't it? captioning funded by cbs welcome to "cbs this morning" from washington. we have a lot to get to here, including former white house press secretary robert gibbs and israel's ambassador to the united states, michael oren. first, erica is in new york with the breaking news from afghanistan. >> charlie, thank u good morning. defense secretary panetta is wrapping up the first high-level meetings with afghan officials since last weekend's deadly ram page. half of americans now want the obama administration to speed up troop withdrawals from afghanistan. mandy clark is in kabul this morning. good morning. >> reporter: good morning.

today panetta met with afghan president hamid karzai in an effort to repair relations. he's the first american official to visit afghan staph after the shooting rampage by u.s. soldiers that left 16 civilians dead. panetta told karzai, america is committed to staying the course in afghanistan until the planned withdrawal of combat troops in 2014. he also acknowledged that the u.s. had made a series of mistakes from the video of marines urinating on dead militants to the koran burning and now the killing of civilians by a u.s. soldier. >> can't undermine the main mission we're about and the strategy we've put in place. i think it's the right strategy. i think it's working. i think we've made significant progress here. >> security is still an issue here. afghan delegation investigating the shooting dame under attack. one while visiting the scene of the rampage and another in

kandahar city. a motorcycle bomb exploded 600 yards from there. the soldier responsible fort murders has been transferred to kuwait. the move has outraged villagers and politicians because they want him to stand trial in afghanist afghanistan. though president karzai agreed to the transfer. there's still a lot of anger in afghanistan. a thousand protesters took to the streets in zabul. there was a bizarre incident when an afghan man crashed a stolen car at the airfield where panetta was landing. the man died but no one was hurt in the secretary's delegation. >> mandy, thank you. turning to the financial world uproar over the public resignation of an investment banker at goldman sachs. his farewell message is called the muppet manifesto. rebecca jarvis is here with

more. this is the talk of the town and not just wall street. >> absolutely, erica. it's unprecedented. never before has an individual within goldman sachs broken the company's rule of silence on such a grand scale. it wasn't the closing bell, but a very public parting shot from a goldman sachs employee what reverberated across wall street wednesday. greg smith, a london-based vice president who once appeared in a goldman sachs recruiting video like this one unleashed a scathing essay in the new york times. calling his employer toxic and destructive. >> it's a very big and bold statement that he's making. >> the bold statement was that gold man knowingly misled clients to make more money. makes me ill how callously people talk about ripping their client off, writes smith. i've seen five different managing directors refer to their own client as muppets. >> when people hear that someone inside an investment bank is referring to these large

institutions as muppets or as very unsophisticated, it's surprising. >> smith blames two individuals by name for gold man's deteriorating culture. ceo lloyd blankfein and president gary cohn. the pair fired back at smith saying his view does not and should not represent our firm of more than 30,000 people. >> i would question his integrity and loyalty. i think that a lot of other firms would do the same. >> goldman employees past and present are privately questioning smith's motives. others applaud his move. the effect of the letter is widespread. >> there's no way to do business as a large corporation or institution without dealing with goldman sachs. >> in response they made it sound like he was stagnant in his career for a while. what's the reaction overall to this assessment of the letter that he wrote? >> first of all, there's a mixed reaction, both within goldman

sachs as well as on wall street. you have the people in goldman sachs say this was a nice person shall he was generous, a good colleague but some say he was arrogant in dealing with some of the upper management as well as with clients. it's also interesting, though. people say the culture at goldman has changed. not necessarily for ripping off clients but as a company, this is a company that went public. this is a company that went from 6,000 employees to 30,000 employees in a matter of a decade. things do change within a company and there are those with the goldman sachs applauding what smith is saying and saying, listen, things did change significantly. there are also those who are saying this guy is totally wrong and it doesn't apply. that's where this falls out. it is a huge firm. had guy was in a london office. so there are those in the new york side or offices in london saying he's just wrong. >> this is one guy and a lot of people questioning why now. becky, thanks. want to turn it back to charlie in washington. >> thank you, erica.

with us a contributor editor ativan at this fair who confers the -- former investor at goldman sachs. good morning. >> good morning, charlie. how are you? >> do you know this man who has made these accusations? >> i don't know him personally. i want to say i was a pea on at goldman sachs. so calling me an investment banker is -- >> what you write about investment banks and goldman sachs. of this whole episode? >> it's corroboration for a lot of people who have been saying that goldman sachs is evil. on the one hand, you can dismiss this guy as goldman is trying do as a disgruntled relatively junior level employee who is just one person out of 30,000 and certainly doesn't speak for the firm. on the other hand, what he's saying is nothing new. it's nothing other than people, be they clients, hedge funds and former senior goldman people

have been saying privately for years now. i think there's the challenge forever goldman sachs is there's a ring of something about this. >> and what can they do about that and how damaging is it for them? >> well, i'm not sure there's much they can do about it in terms of the public perception. it's very damaging in that respect because it come on the heels of accusations about their misbehavior in the mortgage market. it comes after a lot of questions about another deal in which they were conflict-ridden on all side of the deal and the judge in the case issued a scathing opinion of goldman sachs. it's scratching something that's not a scab. it's very much an open wound. on the other hand shall the real question is now goldman sachs' clients react. despite all the bad press over the recent years, you haven't seen clients flee the firm. it's still the number one firm in the most important categories. i think, until you start to see clients reacting to this, it's

hard to say it signifies the death of goldman sachs. >> you think you'll see any changes at the top level of goldman sachs? >> there are constant rumors that thereby going to be changes soon at the top of goldman sachs. it's hard to know for sure. it's hard to see who the person who would replace lloyd blankfein is. his number one, gary cohn, was also blamed in in op-ed. he's widely seen as being very close to lloyd. a change from lloyd to gary would not signify a cultural shift at goldman sachs. there are constant rumors. hard to mow for sure what will happen. >> becky, thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you. we turn to the race for the white house. republican presidential candidates are scattered around the country today looking for votes. the next big contest is tuesday's primary in illinois. political correspondent jan crawford is in chicago this morning. >> good morning, charlie. you know, it was just a day after the big wins in alabama

and mississippi and rick santorum headed further south to puerto rico over the weekend. he took on his rival mitt romney head on. santorum had one word for his sweep of the deep south. stunning. >> no one really gave us a chance to win one much less two given the enormous amount of spending that was lodged against you us. >> campaigning as the underdog fighter taking on the romney machine, santorum said he won by connecting with voters in a way romney can't. >> america is ready for someone who is telling them the truth and will try to get this country back believing in itself instead of big government in washington, d.c. governor romney certainly isn't the right guy to get that done. >> despite santorum's two wins, romney holds a solid lead in the delegates with an estimated 471. santorum has 218 followed by gingrich with 119 and ron paul with 42. romney struggled to excite

conservatives and continues to face complaints if he doesn't connect with real people. >> guess what? i made a lot of money. i've been very successful. i'm not going to apologize for that. in this country, we want someone who can help other people become successful. this is a nation which is not going to choose our president based on these little innuendos and personal attacks. >> but the attacks on romney and his money are coming from all sides. and especially from newt gingrich who is vowing to stay in the race if only to keep romney from getting enough delegates to win. >> i understand he's going back for two more days of fundraising on wall street, which is a part a sign that santorum and i drained most of his current treasury. he can raise money from billionaires. we raise money from middle class people. >> now, romney's fundraiser in new york city yesterday cost $2500 a person. he's got another one today in connecticut. together, he's expected to raise

about $2 million. while he's leading in the delegate count, he's also leading in the money. >> president obama supporters with focusing on his shrinking approval number. robert gibbs served as president obama's press secretary and is now a senior adviser for the president's reelection campaign. he joins us in washington. welcome. >> good morning. >> there was a tease we did which said basically they are running scared and believe they're the underdog. you seriously believe the obama reelection campaign is an underdog? >> charlie, we've always geared our reelection to -- for a close election. that's what we're going to see i think. i think we had a pretty close election last time. i think the president is quite comfortable being the underdog. i think he's happy to run this race from -- as if he were behind the whole time. i think it's going to be a close election. >> does it work in your interest

if it goes to a brokered convention? >> having been through the nominating process last time, republicans are going to go through theirs. i think what you're seeing from all three candidates is they're not electricity fieing anybody, not getting anybody excited because many of the topics they're talking about are not what voters are really interested in. the economic policies that they're espousing, huge tax cuts for the wealthy. we've tried that form lachlt people understand we don't want to go back to the mess and the problems that got us into this. >> with the economic recovery looking like it's gaining some traction, even from the federal reserve saying that, that the president should be doing better. why isn't he doing better in terms of public opinion polls when the republicans are killing each other? >> look, i think, charlie, we've been through a lot. we're in the midst of rebuilding our economy and climbing out of a massive hole. as you mentioned, we've had some good growth over the past 24

months, almost 4 million private sector jobs. but i think the president understands and the team understands. we have to rebuild in economy and give the middle class in this country a belief that there's some genuine security in their economic futures. >> what are the key states for you in. >> you've seen most of them. obviously, places like ohio and florida have always been important. but look, out west, places like colorado, virginia, north carolina. you can throw a dart at a map of the midwest and hit an important state. we're going to treat every state and every voter as genuinely important because, again, charlie, we're preparing for a tough race. >> behind you the picture of the white house. people said last night to me that the one thing that scares them to death in the white house is gas prices because they don't know if they can -- there's no

silver bullet the president said. they don't know if it's within their control to have the kind of impact and a timely impact before the voters go to the polls. >> look, i think oil is obviously a commodity traded on a global market. there's very little that you can do on a day-to-day basis to impact that price. what we have to do at the white house and capitol and throughout our public policy is we have to get an all the above energy strategy. we have to do not just one thing. if drilling were the answer, we'd be fine. because we're drilling a lot more in the gulf now than we have and our dependence on foreign oil is -- >> would keystone have made a difference? >> not any time soon. it would not put any oil online. what we need to do is invest as the president has done in a huge increase in renewable energy. we have to increase fuel

efficiency standards so the cars we drive don't stop at the gas station, they drive past it because we're getting better fuel mileage. we have to do all these things. we have to look throughout the country at the increase in natural gas, which is very cheap right now. it can power a lot of our vehicles. >> the vice president is marking the beginning of the campaign in some way and going to the heartland to toledo. the message for you in this campaign seems to be jobs, jobs, jobs. >> i think those are the three most important issues. >> how do you convince america that an unemployment rate at 8.3 is unacceptable? >> well, look, again, i think people are going to evaluate this president from where we are to where we are. the trajectory that we're on. >> thank you. great to see you. robert gibbs from the obama campaign. now to show you some of this morning's headlines from around the globe. britain's guardian newspaper said it's obtained thousands of e-mails to and from syrian president assad. the message reportedly show that

he took advice from iran and tried to make light of the political reforms he had promised. they also show how the assad family is living in luxury. usa today has a story on a lawsuit against virginia tech. the school was found negligent in the 2007 campus shooting that killed 32 people because it waited to tell students a gunman was on campus. a jury awarded two families $4 million each. a texas baby kidnapped eight years ago has been found alive. the houston chronicle says the boy's godmother is accused of taking the boy when he was eight months old. the boy is expected to be reunited with his mother this week. there is a little less of the famous white cliffs of dover. the daily mirror shows how a huge section it collapsed into the english channel last week. they believe rain and temperatures made it unstable. no one was

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rod blagojevich. left his home in chicago a short time ago. not going to be back for a while. the former illinois governor is going to prison in colorado today where he'll start serving a 14-year sentence for corruption. welcome back to "cbs this morning." charlie is in washington today. he'll be with us in a moment. but we begin this half hour with hbo running out of luck. the cable giant dropped its new horse racing drama on wednesday after three horses died during production. as national correspondent ben tracy reports, "luck" had just begun shooting a new season. >> reporter: luck tells the story of this seedier side of professional horse racing.

the sleek beauty of the animals on the track was matched by the skill of a-list actors, dustin hoffman and nick nolte. >> i still know a peach when i see one. >> now these thorough beds were -- the show was canceled in the wake of three horses dying on the set. two were put down last season. in a statement hbo said while we maintain the highest safety standards possible, accidents unfortunately happen. it is impossible to guarantee they won't in the future. hbo may contend that these were accidents but the animal rights group peta said they were accidents waiting to happen. they say during the first season they were contacted by whistle blowers but the mistreatment of animals went nowhere even after the death of the first two horses. >> we got the necropsy reports and what we found was shocking.

one of the horses had been pumped full of pain killing drugs. the other one was old and arthritic. >> doctors said peta is misreading the death report. >> hbo did everything they can to ensure the safety of those horses. >> the series was gaining ground and was shooting episodes for season 2. yet the ratings, just half a million viewers, were disappointing. john wiseman of variety wonders if the rating race is the real reason the show was pulled. >> there's going to be a lot of speculation that that's what happened. they used this for cover to get from a show that they didn't want to be involved with long-term. >> ending the run for these magnificent horses and their trainers who find themselves unemployed. for "cbs this morning," ben tracy, los angeles. peta has called for a criminal investigation of the latest horse death. the american humane association, which monitors animals on tv and

movie sets says canceling the series is arguably the best decision hbo could make. from television to the movies. a brutally honest documentary about bullying is getting a screening tonight here in washington. the movie is the focus of controversial ratings. as whit johnson reports. many teenagers won't be allowed to watch it by themselves. >> slapped with an r rating for repeated foul language. >> the documentary follows five students brutalized by classmates over the course of a year. a story familiar to katy butler who came out as a lesbian in the seventh grade. >> they pushed me into lockers or waums. one day they ended up slamming my hand in my locker and broke my finger. >> inspired by the film's message, the michigan high school student launched an

internet petition to change its rating to pg-13. making it more accessible. >> no one who is 13 wants to see a movie with their mom or dad. >> collecting 300,000 signatures in only two weeks, butler has support from celebrities like ellen degeneres, meryl streep, justin bieber and 20 members of congress. >> that's like no time at all. it's amazing. it's taken off. >> despite the petition and an appeal by the film's mega hollywood distributor harvey weinstein, the rating stands. the motion picture association of america defended its decision saying in a statement, the r-rating is not a judgment on the value of any movie. parents will decide if they want their children to see it. >> the association has found unlikely allies in parents groups who usually think the ratings are too weak. >> do you think this film is unfit for kids? >> no. >> why is the r rating a good thing? >> it's merely to inform about

contents, there's brutal violence. >> the kind of abuse katy butler experienced firsthand. >> i felt so alone and so uncared for. >> a feeling she hopes others won't have to endure. for "cbs this morning," whit johnson, washington. that mega hollywood producer joins us now. harvey weinstein with us fresh from last night's state dinner. some say it's not because the prime minister was being honored, not the queen. they could have fooled me. >> pretty nice. fabulous evening. >> tell me about this. why do you think it's important to have a pg-13 rating and so much so that you have appealed and you are waging this campaign? >> charlie, kids at 13 years old, their mom and dad take them to the theater. they're not going to think it's cool. they're going to think it's medicine. this problem has been going on too long. when kids see the movie by

themselves, they react in a way that all of a sudden it's uncool to be a bully. it rile starts with the girls. girls go see the movie and then they tell the guys, hey, man, this is really bad news. i'm not going to associate with you. and this social thing happens. the kids who are bullied were the real ones who told us to do that. we had alex libby, one of the kids bullied appeal to the mpaa. i'm supposedly this really tough guy. i keep reading about that. i was crying in his appeal. i'm looking at these -- we lost by one vote. they just took it too legalistically. there have been other movies where there were uses of the f word and they overturned it because it was about the iraq war. you it's not about the brutal violence. it's the use of the f-word. if we got rid of that, the movie would be a pg-13.

>> editing is not an option to consider? >> no. the kids don't want to consider it because it's the true. the kids use. f-word to bully the kitds. it's part of the movie. it's not like they haven't seen it. there's so many anecdotal of kids watching and people watching, telling me they watch it with their 12-year-old and 13-year-old and it's so important that they see it and so important that they go to the theaters. >> some will say not that you're a tough guy, you understand the bottom line and that you can get a better rating, you'll get more money on the bottom line. >> if people think i'm doing bully for money, you know, then they have another thing coming. >> they haven't looked at it. i have a brad pitt movie coming up. those are movies that we make. nothing to do with that. >> i want to stick with that. there's a kind of redemption. it's like harvey is back. what do you think happened to

you and how did you come back to where you are now with this extraordinary oscar success with the artist and others? >> i kind of waded away from movies for a while. avid a breakup with disney. >> lost your focus. >> lost my focus. and decided that i was going to do all these other things. charlie, i was terrible at all of them. i always loved movies. it was my passion. i was michael jordan playing baseball, not as good as michael jordan in basketball. but that's the analogy. >> i heard you say last night to someone that you're more humbled. is humbled you. is that fair? >> true. >> someone else said i'll see it when i believe it. what's the evidence of new more humble harvey? >> i'm on your show whenever you ask. normally i would sleep in and refused you. call me and i'm there. >> i'll take a more humble harvey. the knicks coach is gone. are you pleased by that? >> well, the team is in such disarray. i think jim dolan cares a lot

about the team. cares a lot about basketball. i'm going to leave those decisions up to him. i'm a huge fan. >> what about 'melo? >> i mean, he's got the next 22 games to prove that that was the right decision. it shifts now from lin's shoulders to 'melo's shoulders. he better prove it. >> we'll all be

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in today's "healthwatch," new guidelines for cervical cancer screening. on wednesday, a government task force and other health groups recommended women, ages 21 to 65, should get a pap smear every three years instead of every year. women 30 to 65 get a pap smear and a test for hpv, they can wait up to five years between tests. dr. elizabeth poyner is a gynecologist, surgeon and cancer specialist. she joins us here in studio 57. >> thank you for having me. >> five years sound like a long time. >> it is a long time. but we better understand the biology or the activity of

precancerous changes of the cervix. we also now better understand the harms of overtreating early changes or early precancerous changes in the cervix which may be clinically insignificant and not progress into cancer. five years is a long time. however, we're better understanding the biology of the precancerous lesions. >> some are seeing we've seen such a decline because of the testing. if we're testing less often, could we see cancer rates rise? >> i think that's going to be reflected in when we look at that data later on. that's a big concern actually. recently, acog relaxed their screening guidelines to looking at pap smears every two years in women under the age of 30 and stretching out those intervals up to three years in women over the age of 30. i'd like to see how that's going to impact on cancer morbidity and mortality before we stretch out the screening intervals even longer. but the recommendations are based on solid and sound data, of course. >> still, for a lot of women,

you go with what you're comfortable with. some women are -- will insurance still cover it if there are different guidelines or recommendations? >> currently, insurance companies are. in my practice actually covering pap smears every year when necessary. we haven't seen -- >> you say when necessary. that's a big difference between i'd like to have one. >> however, that may be a problem in the future. that will be up to the insurance companies in the future. >> what will you tell your patients? >> i will counsel my patients and look at their health history individual individually. alternatives to more frequent screening versus less frequent. i think it's important that women understand that they still need to have their yearly annual consultation with their gynecologist to go over general health issues and other cancer screenings along with looking at their personal health history and to make those decisions based on their personal health history. >> if you're not getting a test every year, you won't go at all.

>> you need to educate women. >> thank you, dr. poyner. you may remember the case of andrea yates. she was accused of killing her five children. her lawyer is with us. he believes now that she is ready to return to society. why? we'll ask him. you're watching "cbs this morning." cbs "healthwatch" sponsored by neutrogena cosmetic. recommended most by dermatologists. even after you take it off. neutrogena® healthy skin liquid makeup. 98% saw improved skin. does your makeup do that? neutrogena® cosmetics.

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40 years ago today the godfather premiered here in new york city. one thing about organized crime that was not in that movie, the word mafia. that word was part of the book, but the italian american civil rights league lobbied to have it taken out of the film. that's from our friend at mental floss. thanks for that. gayle, i had no idea. gayle king is in the control room, i think, with a look at the next hour. or are you behind me in the green room? there you are in charge in the green room. >> i have to say i had no idea either. andrea yates made headlines and enraged people after she drowned all five of her children. ten years after her conviction, her attorney believes she's ready to join society again. he's here to explain why. will ferrell's newest movie opens in theaters tomorrow. if you don't speak spanish, i hope you're ready to read the

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it's 8:00. welcome back to "cbs this morning." who is that dapper man in the tuxedo at the white house? >> dashing, isn't he sm. >> that would be the one and only charlie rose. he was there last night. >> you go on and on, don't you? >> yes, i am. wait. i'm not done. is that the state dinner honoring britain's prime minister and his wife. charlie, you look dapper. erica and i are drooling over amanda's dress. she looked lovely. >> stunning. >> she looked stunning. there she is i love that dress. actually -- >> did you tell her she looked lovely? >> of course. i did. she'll be pleased to know. >> let me tell you this about this. it's extraordinary to be in that

house. >> yes. >> look on the wall, first of all. there is lincoln and fdr and his remarkable portrait. there's the rose garden. you look around you and you see people that you have known for a long time. there's george and there's warren buffett and a lot of people who are part of politics in washington are there. there are people that you have interviewed in britain there, whether it's the foreign minister, william hague or others. it is a coming together in what i still like to think of as the people's house. the president lives there, but it's the people's house. it's where we have our history and it's where we come to put politics aside and talk about how we relate to the rest of the world and you heard not only really interesting comments by the prime minister and the president. but you also heard wonderful music. there was a real sense of celebration and camaraderie because i think the relationship between the united states and britain is a very special relationship. >> i tote lay gree with you,

charlie. i know the first lady always called it the people's house. when you go there, i don't care who is in the office. i have great respect and reverence for the office of the presidency. i'm wondering, was it a fun night for you last night? was it fun? >> did charlie dance? >> no, i did not dance. in fact, i had a great time. by the way, the first lady said say hello to both of you when we went through the receiving line. she's watching. we hope. the president came by to the table i was. i was sitting with jay carney to say something about basketball. knowing that i love it. also that he likes my home state a lot. loves north carolina in fact. it was a great evening. when we come back later here, we're going to talk to -- because we're in washington with israeli ambassador, michael oren. i look forward to that. >> don't for get to come back. we'll see you tomorrow live in and in color. thank you, charlie. thank you very much. it was ten years ago this

week that andrea yates was convicted of a horrific crime. she drowned her five young children in their houston home. >> yates was later found to be mentally ill suffering from postpartum psychosis. after more than a decade now, we're told she may be let out of custody later this year. >> family home videos show no apparent hint of turmoil within the yates home. andrea yates was described as a loving mother of five who home-schooled her children. after the birth of her fourth child in 1999, yates began to show signs of depression. twice she tried to kill her sever. yates was hospitalized. treated for postpartum depression. initially, medication seemed to help. but after the birth of her fifth child, marry, in 2000, the anxiety appeared to increase. on june 20, 2001, yates summoned her children into the bathroom where she drowned them in the tub. four boys, one six-month-old

girl. in a december 2001 interview with "60 minutes," err then husband say mental illness drove andrea yates to drown those children. >> the person who did that is not andrea. if your brain is sick, you can think things that aren't real. >> andrea yates, guilty of capital murder as charged in the indictment. >> during her first trial in 2002, yat was found guilty. sentenced to life in prison. but that verdict was overturned due to one witness who gave false testimony. yates was eventually found not guilty by reason of insanity at a 2006 retrial. since then, she has been confined to two different mental hospitals. >> attorney george parnham has been her defense lawyer since the case began. he joins us now. hello mr. parnham. good to see you. >> thank you for having me. >> when i told people i would be

interviewing you today, they said has it been ten years. did it seem like ten years? >> no. i was very much surprised that i am told it was ten years ago that the verdict came back. the first verdict came back with a conviction. >> we listened to the details of the case again. it brings it all back about how disturbing, how troubling, how horrific it was. then when i see that she was mentally ill. this is what i need your help in understanding. if she understood right from wrong, how can you still be mentally ill? in my definition for most people, they have no idea what they're doing. help me understand that. >> in her case. >> sure. her awareness of the wrongfulness of her acts was a surface awareness. much like a child who reads and understands and memorizes a poem, not necessarily knowing what the poem means but able to

recite. andrea believed absolutely that her children were going to perish and burn forever in the fires of hell. she believed that satan was in her and certainly she was aware of what she was doing. but her belief system, because of the chemical imbalance as a result of postpartum psychosis, she was living within a delusion and that delusion was as real to you as i am to you today. so as a consequence, she acted on what she did and believed was the best thing in the world for her kids. >> you paint a picture of a very unstable woman, a woman who clearly needs hip. and yet, you believe that now she should re-enter society. why? what has changed? >> well, i base it on the reports from the doctors and that's basically all we can do is listen to the recommendations

of the physicians that have treated her over the past ten years. >> what -- you said before, you feel that you actually crossed the line professionally with her. you have a very close relationship with her. what do you see as a person who must know her well now after ten careers. do you see any change sm. >> immensely. she's not the same person that she was ten years ago when i first -- or 11 years ago when i first met her, the day after she drowned her kids >> is she reforce mull? >> very much so. she grieves for her children. she -- birthdays, she grieves for her kids. obviously, on the date the anniversary, i hate that word, but the date of the anniversary of the deaths. those are tough times for her. >> the chances of her walking, mr. parnham are what? if you can say in a sentence.

>> it's going to be the judge's call. all the doctors and the medical professionals now say that she's ready to be brought back in, acclimated to society. where? when? it's anybody's guess. >> it is a decision many will be watching closely. thanks for being with us this an australian billionaire says her kids are suing her for

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new tsa procedures began monday in chicago, denver, orlando and portland, oregon. if all goes as planned, senior citizens won't have to remove their shoes or light jacket and no patdowns. family feud in australia over billions of dollars. the international herald tribune reports georgia rien heart is being sued by three of her kids for control of a giant trust fund. rien heart is worth $18 billion according to forbes magazine. she calls her kids slackers and says they need to find real jobs. ouch. come on, mom. oh, baby. an adorable bubble video is going viral. >> i think that's hilarious. buzz feed.com posted this clip. it's a magical moment as the baby sees bubbles for the first time. boy, is the baby excited. say it with me now.

awe. >> there's nothing like kids and bubble. in new jersey, the star ledger says a man has been ordered to share millions in lottery winnings with his co-workers. a jury decided yesterday that america lopes kept a $24 million jackpot for himself. so now he must split the cash with five former colleagues. they'll each get $2 million after taxes. and that's a long story short. does sound like he tried to pull a fast one. because he was in the pool. cashed in the ticket and said no, that's the ticket i bought. not good. >> ain't going to work. president obama is warning iran it must take nuclear negotiations seriously. charlie will ask the ambassadors to the u.s. what happened if iran does not back off. stay with us. you're watching "cbs this morning." this portion of "cbs this morning" sponsored by party city. nobody has more st. patrick's day for less.

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as a news conference wednesday, president obama warned iran about the nuclear program saying "the window to -- former head of israeli mossad agency said that would be the craziest idea he's heard. lesley stahl asked dagan about iran. >> the regime in iran is a rational regime. >> do you think ahmadinejad is rational? >> the answer is yes. but exactly how rational, but i think that he's rational. >> you think they're rational enough that they are capable of backing down from this? >> no doubt that the iranian regime maybe not exactly rational based on what i call western thinking. but no doubt that they are considering all the implications of direction. >> other people think they're

not going to stop until they have this capability. >> they have to pay dearly in all the consequences for it and i think at this point in time, they're going very careful. they're not running. >> if they're that rational as you suggest, that logical, then why can't you, israel and the world live with a nuclear iran? in the israeli case, they say they want to destroy israel. >> here is israel's ambassador to the united states. welcome. >> good morning, charlie. >> what do you disagree with what meir dagan said. >> he's been -- i of course have the highest regard for meir dagan. he's given his life to israel's security. other people have given their lives to israeli security who think differently than he does. >> he was in the inner councils

of making important decisions. >> there are other people in the israeli intelligence who have a different opinion. at the end of the day shall the person who make the decisions are the democratically elected leaders of israel. as in the you state. when president obama had to make that tough call about bin laden, there were some high ranking intelligence officials who said don't do it. he had to make that decision. similarly, israel is democratically elected leaders have to make that tough call. >> also jeffrey goldberg suggested in an article, not just the interview with president obama suggesting that there is a kind of good cop, bad cop thing going on between the president and the prime minister. and that the prime minister is in fact, in part, bullying because he want to make sure that the west and other countries go forward with a more aggressive way in using sanctions to squeeze iran and the rationality that meir dagan spoke about. >> there was an important

article. the president said things he hadn't said before. he said that iran was not just an israeli issue, not even a middle eastern issue, it was an american vital -- he recognizes that israel has the right to defend itself by itself against any middle eastern threat. israel is a sovereign country, only they can make the decision to -- >> contain is not an option. >> it's not an option. >> the option -- he said all that. >> and he had said that one of america's option was a military option. extremely important. >> you consider that an important meeting. you have also said to me in the past that the security cooperation between this government, president obama, and the israeli government, prime minister netanyahu has never been better. >> all-time high. it's definitely superb. but in many different areas. we're fightingter tore. iranian backeder r terrorists

out of gaza fired -- many taken down by an anti-rocket system developed with the you staut and israel. >> here's a central question. you know it well. suppose israel decides that sanctions are not good enough and that the approaching day that iran will have the capability has come? >> israel, sovereign country, has not just the right but the duty and the ability to defend itself. >> is that day near? how long do you give sanctions to work? >> you know, america, big country, a big kin dough. looks out to window, sees the middle east far away. israel looks out the window oopd we see iran in our backyard. prime minister netanyahu said the other day, we're not talking about years or days and weeks either. >> thank you ambassador oren. we'll be right back with will ferrell talking about his new movie.

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♪ you know that song. that's mumford and sons nominated for best artist last year. a bunch of grammys this year. you're listening to them on tape but charlie rose got to hear them live and in color. >> a new big family here, charlie. >> yes. thank you so much. it was great fun. bill plante knows a lot about the kinds of wines they serve and stuff like that. we'll hear all that of from mr. plante and talk about the other people there from warren buffett to george clooney to lots of people who helped the president in his campaigns were there as well. some brits too. >> did you have a highlight, charlie? is it hard to pick a highlight

from last night? >> for me, to have the president stop by and talk basketball was a highlight. >> he's picking the tar heels. north carolina. >> are you picking -- >> i understand why. as my krzyzewski said, they have a better team so far this year. senior white house correspondent bill plante is at the white house this morning. he was not on the guest list, but we want to know what happened last night and don't you wish you were there? >> well, charlie, maybe they thought i wouldn't behave well enough or it got lost in the mail. >> or you would have a judgment about their wine. >> yeah, we'll talk about that in a minute. these guest lists are always carefully selected mix of celebrities and dignitaries from the country being honored o. one much america's oldest and closest allies was who it was. >> toasting the relationship that's being tested by world events, president obama and british prime minister david cameron told a star studded

audience the connection between the united kingdom and the united states is as strong as ever. >> in times of plenty and times of hardship, we stand tall and proud and strong together. >> i'm proud of our essential relationship and much britain's strong national bond with the united states of america. i feel it in my bones. with the recent shooting rampage by an american soldier in afghanistan threatening u.s. and british involvement there and with the looming possibility of a nuclear iran, both leaders wanted prime minister cameron's first official visit here to send a message about the solidarity of the u.s./british alliance. earlier in the day, mr. obama joked about the british setting fire to the white house 200 years ago. >> they made quite an impression. [ laughter ] they really lit up the place. >> the theme of cooperation

carried into the state dinner. the first one for a british prime minister in 14 years. and the biggest party ever thrown by the obamas. all of which made this one of the most coveted invitations in washington. >> mr. george clooney. >> mr. justice scalia. >> mr. charlie rose. >> because this is an election year, no surprise, many of the guests included some of the president's top fundraisers. the menu included a kind of cross-cultural main course. bison wellington. which they call a take on a beloved dish. mumford and sons topped off the evening. >> i'll bet the music was great, charlie. wish i had been there for that. they were great. >> they didn't tell you what the wines were, though, did they? >> they did not. when they came by to pour the wine, i didn't think it was appropriate for me to say what

are we drinking here? i hear you found out. >> i did. they call themselves the most transparent administration in history and they're hide the wines they serve. hello. the wines are always the best in america. until last year, they were always listed. now the white house has wimped out last night's wines were very good wines. one of the great chardonnays. cabernet from washington state. retail prices are relatively high. then the wine at the end from iron horse, not so high. all of those wines are wines that california and america and washington state can be proud of. but the white house is worried about the optics. they're afraid that they'll be accused of being extravagant. of course, it's an election year. it's too bad because the winemakers get to credit except that we just gave them one. >> i'm not surprised that you found out though, bill. >> wine is one of my passions. >> i know so thank you so much

my friend. it's good to be here in washington where you are and where you roam. we look forward to many trips to talk. >> come back. >> then there is will ferrell. i am not sure he'll get a state dinner. but america celebrated his comic talents for years. he goes south of the bored

come again? [ barking ] >> you know i don't speak spanish. in english, please. >> you popped in the refrigerator. >> will ferrell may have spoken spanish as ron burgundy in anchor man. but as armando alvarez in his new movie, it is all he speaks. >> i'll say. fairly plays a hapless -- that word -- mexican rancher trying to save his family's farm and

dealing with his brother's involvement in a drug war. bad brother. >> >> he sounds good, right? will ferrell is with us in studio 57. hello, will ferrell. >> it was very dramatic. >> i thought so too. i read nothing about your movie. i was excited to see it. so i get the screener, i put it in and call the office and said somebody sent me will's movie in spanish. may i please have the english version. this is after i spent five minutes trying to figure out how to get the english. how did i get these sub tight

ms. lo and behold, you've taken your high school spanish and turned it into a movie. >> my high school spanish teachers are going to be so proud of me. >> they will be. >> i deserve an oscar just for effort, okay? >> i like that you're putting it out there now. it has time to brew the next few months. start the campaign. >> best foreign language film. i don't know. >> it's nice when your mom encourages you and said will, you're doing good, keep going. >> which i never heard from my mother, by the way. she never encouraged me. >> i know you get lots of encouragement. she's making up for it now. i would never think will ferrell, spanish speaking movie. you did speak spanish the whole movie. >> everybody did. >> wasn't just you. >> no. this is just a crazy i had for the longest time of -- i think from watching telenouvel as and -- >> do you watch them? rewind to that. >> i'll stop if i'm cruising the

channels. >> do you ever stop on -- >> erica, say that again. >> really? you want to say it. >> it's amazing when it's on. saab dough. >> when did you know that you were a funny kid? >> i think when i was three days old. yeah. >> what happened after that time in your life actually? >> that's all i remember from my childhood. up until nine years, it's all a blur. but at three days old -- >> you had something there. >> something clicked. >> you have three boys of your own. i love their news. magnus, axle and mat yus. >> my three sons. >> that could be a show. >> we know you you're a funny guy on screen. then there's the real will ferrell. you're very normal. what's it like with you and three boys are 8, 5 and 2

horsing around the house? >> i'm a screamer. >> is there a lot of wrestling sm. >> there's a lot of wrestling. you know how it is with boys. they love each other -- >> i can't imagine three of them. i have two. >> it's what i call blissful chaos. >> that's nice. >> my wife and i will go to bed at night laughing over what the heck just happened today? so we're -- you just always kind of covering everyone's needs. >> listening to them at night. they're trying to fall asleep. >> hilarious conversations. in fact, my middle boy, mateus is the most precocious. i was talking to him the other day, talking about oh -- i was getting changed or something, you know what, papa is a little fat. no you not. you just got a little extra around the middle. that's all. that's all. >> he's five. >> he's well-trained. >> do they know what you do?

have they seen your movies? >> do they understand that you're will ferrell and people know you? >> yes and no. i think they think it's just a job i do. and they of they've seen so much stuff but not a lot. they're still pretty little. i think they think it's cool but otherwise i'm just their dad. >> i come from a family, i always am curious approximate this. i came from a family of four girls. i'm the oldest. aren't you the oldest? >> i'm the oldest of two. >> that still counts. i come from a family of four girls. i used to say to my dad, don't you wish you had a son. oh, no, no, i love having girls. is there a part of you that wishes you had a little girl. you have a lovely wife >> i'm an anti-feminist. i'm super macho and i love my boys. yeah. >> nice. i am glad that nothing -- >> could i just say in closing

that you look handsome today. i saw you on david letterman the other day. in your top ten, you said do i look handsome. may i just say you look handsome when you're not in the grocery store picking up women. >> care to elaborate? >> i was telling a story of -- >> i thought it was funny. >> a young woman who was saying hello to me. >> you're thinking ah. >> i've been married for 12 years, happily so. >> happily. >> i love my wife very much. it was kind of nice that this female was saying hey, how are you? >> clearly checking you out. >> i saw her later walking down sunset boulevard and put it all together that she was -- >> i think she was a working girl. >> a working girl. >> lady of the night. >> you still got it. >> i still got it. >> you can bring it back here to the table in studio 57 any time. >> the movie opens in theaters tomorrow. unless you want to stay that in spanish. [ speaking spanish ]

>> manana. >> bueno. when you think harvard. you may not think sports top of mind. but this year, of course, the crimson is part of march madness and jeremy lin giving them a shout out. we have a preview from our own harvard man. how about are you still sleeping? just wanted to check and make sure that we were on schedule.

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barack obama is one of eight presidents with a harvard degree. his was for law. for a long time the basketball team at that great university was not so great. this afternoon harvard plays ncaa tournament for the first time since bill clinton and george w. bush were born. james brown used to play for the crimson. he says this year's team is

ready to shed its underdog status. >> you mngs mention the name harvard, it moves you. i think that's something that is echoed across the globe with a lot of folks. >> in a school a sus comed to high achievement, tommy amaker accomplished something unique at harvard. led a once moribund basketball team to the ncaa tournament for the first time since 1946. what took so long? >> listen, as we know, these things aren't easy. to be able to make something happen at a school like harvard or ivy league program, you know, it takes work. >> amaker inherited a team that won eight games five years ago. this season the crimson won 26 games and set a new school record. >> this dream, a dream that was attainable. we definitely are living it now. >> success is not lost on this traditionally stoke student

body. >> there are very things that unite the harvard student body but this is becoming one of them. >> junior martin kessler covers sports for the newspaper which is finally featuring the basketball team on the front page. >> you wouldn't expect to see the statue being painted or toilet paper around the buildings or anything like that? not at harvard. >> it's funny. it's becoming sort of a sports school. but not anything too crazy. people aren't skipping out on studying to come to games necessarily. people are definitely getting really excited about it. >> for a school whose name might denote, connote, elite, exclusive, does the basketball theme sent send a different message. >> i think if you learn about our school and truly dig in, try to get engaged with it, i'm not sure that -- those words would resonate throughout. we want well-rounded, want interesting game changing folks

that we're seeing in every way, including men's basketball. >> the team of 1946 notwithstanding, previous squads also showed promise through the years. including the team i played for in the early 1970s. but truex seemt for men's basketball at harvard began when jeremy lin played point guard here before moving on to his recent success in the nba. >> so happy for his success. harvard basketball and they can see that there's an nba player doing exceptional things on that level. we love that. >> this is the trophy that harvard is going after. >> for coach amaker, the team's recent success is no fluke. the program has continued to grow. >> mcnally. >> talked about from day one to be an upstart.

to become a contender and champion, we hope we can build a dynasty one day. >> dynasty, strong language in any sport is a part of amaker's dna. he was an all america point guard at duke before becoming an assistant to coach mike krzyzewski. the team won back-to-back ncaa tournaments in 1991 and '92. >> it's been 20 years since you tasted a championship with duke in the ncaa tournaments. what do you tell the guys about the hunger and the passion associated with that? >> well, it's -- what an experience that was, first of all, to be a part of my alma mater to help that program as an assistant coach. >> need to focus on what's in front of us. you know what, the crazier things have happened as we've seen. >> joining erica and gayle from new york with me here in

washington is james brown. j.b. of cbs sports. welcome. >> good to be talking to a duke guy. >> we know something about the toilet paper things. i can see, my theory is the smarter they are, the crazier they are. >> you know what, they are. the crazy mess is that the players and the students want to widen their library after a big victory. >> i liked that afro. >> the ladies told me at radcliffe -- that was a long time ago, a different james brown. >> i've seen that on an existing president too. >> is that right? >> go ahead. >> what's going on in harvard? >> it's a good thing. i'm enjoying the fact that the basketball team is enjoying this kind of success rallying the student body. tommy amaker worded it the best. greatness is everywhere at harvard. it's not a big thing. i think at its core, people love to see their sports teams do well because it's a unifier if you will. >> james, how far do you think

they'll go -- i think it's going to be hard for a harvard guy to hear harvard described as underdog in anything. so how far do you think they'll go? >> gayle, be clear, it will be an uphill battle against vanderbilt form. they have a big frontline, they shoot the ball well. it will be a tall order. you know what, it was a tall order to get harvard to the point that folks are talking about it after 66 years. >> tommy amaker is the head coach. >> excellent guy. >> as you pointed out in that piece at duke by the way. >> got to get that one. go ahead. >> the president said it's going to be you usc. >> i think kentucky. >> amaker is loved at harvard. >> yes. and the professorial staff loves him. there's a once a month meeting that he has with a number of the professors, including professor ogletree. >> thank you so much. >> good to be here. >> reminder shall cbs sports of ncaa men's basketball tournament

begins at noon eastern time right here on cbs. that does it for us.

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