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good morning. it is monday, april 9, 2012. welcome to studio 57 at the cbs broadcast center. i'm charlie rose. erica hill is off this morning. a giant of television journalism has died and we'll remember the life and legacy of mike wallace with his "60 minutes's" colleagues. i'm gayle king. tulsa breathes a sigh of relief as two are arrested. bubba watson wins the masters with an amazing shot in sudden death. as we do every more than, we begin with a look at today's "eye opener" your world in 90 seconds. >> i'm nosey and insistent.
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>> what do they want you to do? >> cbs news mourns the loss of mike wallace, dead at age 93. >> what is this? >> this is "60 minutes." >> wow. >> he was one of the real pioneers in television journalism. >> we're all in his debt. >> astonishing what you learn and feel and see along the way. that's why a reporter's job, as you know, is such a joy. somebody that committed these crimes was kvery upset wih black people. >> authorities looking for answers. >> two men suspected of killing three people have been arrested. >> possible facebook posting by england that suggesting he was angry over the killing of his father by a black man two years did it hook? oh, what a shot! another watson is wearing a green jacket at augusta. >> how do you put it into words?
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>> i never got this far in my dreams. >> north korea is readying for a rocket launch. >> journalist pelted with eggs and yogurt as protesters broke into the news studio. >> they gave a green pass after a tanker exploded beneath it. >> titanic memorial cruise is on the high seas, carrying passengers. many are relatives of those who died when the titanic went down 100 years ago. >> the man they call god's quarterback took the pulpit in a jam-packed mega church. >> and all that matters -- >> given the number of primaries he's won most likely the republican nominee. >> looks like republican voters are decided it's better to marry someone you love than it is to die alone. welcome to "cbs this morning." our friend and colleague mike
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wallace was one of the most important figures in the history of television news. mike died on saturday at the age of 93. >> his hard-nose approach and unique style of reporting set the tone for "60 minutes." and that was just part of his unique career in broadcasting that began in the 1930s. his colleague morley safer looks back at mike's remarkable life. >> he was doing what? >> with you? >> why? >> why? >> why are you so reluctant. >> reporter: for half a century he took on corrupt politicians, scam artists and bureaucratic bumblers. >> come on out. >> no. >> you don't want to talk to me? >> reporter: his visits preceded by the four dreaded words -- mike wallace is here. >> i don't understand. they must be ashamed of something. >> i'm nosey and insistent. >> reporter: so insistent, there were very few 20th century icons who did not submit to a mike wallace interview. he lectured yasser arafat on violence. >> mr. chairman, there are
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palestinians who would like to kill you. >> reporter: he asked the ayatollah khomeini if he was crazy. >> and he calls you, imam, forgive me, his words, not mine, a lunatic. >> reporter: he traveled with martin luther king. >> remain strong. >> reporter: and he interviewed malcolm x shortly before his assassination. >> i probably am a dead man already. >> i came here with a belief -- >> reporter: he was no stranger to the white house. interviewing his friends, the reagans. there he was with john kennedy, with lyndon johnson. >> so, you think next time around -- >> reporter: with jimmy carter, even with eleanor roosevelt. plus all those remarkable characters. >> come on, mike. >> reporter: leonard bernstein, johnny carson, pavarotti, janice job lynn, tina turner, salvador dali, barbara streisand.
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>> what are you trying to prove? >> reporter: his take no prisoner style became so famous, he even spoofed it with comedian jack benny. >> i'm not going! i don't have to answer anything. i don't. i don't. i don't. >> reporter: it's hard to believe, but when mike was born in 1918, there wasn't even a radio in most american homes. much less tv. >> i was a pretty good kid. you know, i was -- i was an overachiever. i worked very hard, played a hell of a fiddle. >> reporter: at the university of michigan, where his parents hoped he become a daughter or lawyer, he got hooked, instead, on radio. and by 1941 mike was the announcer on "the green hornet." >> ride with rip green as he race for another thrilling adventure. >> hello, i'm mike wallace with real news. ♪ hello everybody hello >> reporter: when television arrived in the 1950s, mike was
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everywhere. >> it's procter & gamble's golden fluffle. >> good evening, i'm mike wallace. the show is "night beat". >> reporter: an interview show "night beat" first broadcast in 1956 that mike remembers fit him like custom made brass knuckles. >> what do you know about that? >> who in the united states is qualified if. >> what kind of people are your friends? >> leads decided, let's ask the abrasi abrasive, the who gives a damn question. >> "60 minutes" volume one -- >> reporter: when "60 minutes" was born in 1968, mike brought with him his "night beat" persona and contributed 40 years worth of noseyness, impertinence and, of course, drama. >> wait just a moment. >> hold it a minute it. >> reporter: mike loved to mix it up with producers, editors, even his fellow correspondents. >> i mean, we were colleagues and competitors at the same time. >> it's been a very bumpy and satisfying road. >> that's exactly right.
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>> reporter: it was 65 years from mike's first appearance on camera, a world war ii film for the navy to his last television appearance -- >> do you think people are going to believe you? >> reporter: -- a "60 minutes" interview with roger clemens, the baseball star trying to fight off accusations of steroid use. >> and never anabolic steroids? >> never. >> reporter: 65 years. ♪ >> reporter: it's strange but for such a tough guy, mike's all-time favorite interview was the one with another legend, pianit vladimir horowitz. for mike, a red, white and blue kind of guy, he played "the stars and stripes forever." it almost brought tears to the toughest guy on television. ♪ >> astonishing what you learn and feel and see along the way.
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that's why a reporter's job, as you know, is such a joy. ♪ >> morley safer is here along with fellow "60 minutes" correspondent steve kroft, welcome. >> thank you. >> in your own words, tell me the words of mike wallace. >> competitive beyond belief, at the same time, i know this will surprise people, unsure of himself. >> unsure of himself? this confident, tough -- >> mike always felt that he had not paid his dues as a journalist. and i think it's one of the things that made him such a tough guy. out to prove himself on every story, every day. and it's what -- and he was relentless in that. and he's confessed it to a lot
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of people. including me. that that uncertainty or that even, perhaps, shame of having done commercials and silly stuff haunted him. >> performer, i think. the great journalist, he became a great journalist, as good as anyone, but he had this ability to make people want to watch him and listen to him. and he was really, i think, the first great television news performer. and he came from a long background. he started in that period of time when there was a very fuzzy line between news and journalism. but he demanded to be watched. and, you know, also this combination he had of guile and gull. he was not afraid to ask the outrageous question. that's what made him great. you never knew what was coming
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next. >> to me, that was part of the fun of it. i never had the honor of meeting him, as you all did, and i got a kick of watching all three of you. when the tape was playing, it would bring back moment of laughter. but i'm surprised when you said he was unsure of himself. he would thrive -- >> he was out to prove himself on every story, every day. the other thing that should be said, i absolutely agree with what steve said, is that he could charm people. >> yeah. >> he could charm people into that chair. and he loved villains. >> well, picking up on what steve said, too, he could make the question as interesting as the answer. >> more interesting, generally. nobody remembers what the ayatollah khomeini answered to mike's question. you know, sometimes, quite honestly, you have to ask the right -- you have to ask questions -- >> even though you're not going to get the answer. >> "60 minutes" would not still be on the air but for mike. people started to tune in to us
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in big numbers back in the late '70s, early '80s to see what mike wallace was going to be up to next. there's no question in my mind that he is -- he is really t the -- along, of course, with don hewitt, the real founder. don used to say, you know, people want to know what adventure mike's going to go on next. >> send my reporter out in search of stories, go tell a story, was the success of "60 minutes." there is also this -- he loved the interesting people, even though he was not a politician, i loved horowitz, he loved the people that somehow he could find out what made them tick, to think. >> absolutely. and he hung with a pretty waspy
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crowd in new york -- >> nice way to put it. >> so he knew everyone. he had known them for 40 years. this is somebody -- think about it, how many people have been parodied on the sid caesar show and "the simpsons"? that says a lot. that says you've been around and noteworthy for 60 years. >> at dinner he would do the same thing, at dinner parties. >> oh, he would grill you. >> absolutely. >> what do you mean, charlie? >> he would ask questions and see one person and put them against another person, like he was on the set of a television show at a regular dinner party. the famous "for give me, too. forgive me, sir. >> where you knew something tough was coming if he started with "forgive me". >> mark my words. he said you're a lunatic. >> forgive me. >> the competition between you guys, did it ever create friction between you? >> are you kidding? >> that's what we call a leading question. >> i don't know how much friction there would have been if mike hadn't been there. it was like mike was so geared
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up and so competitive that you had to -- if you wanted anything left on the plate, you had to be tough. >> he describes himself -- sorry, charlie -- as being prickly when it came to competing against his colleagues for a story. >> no, no, no, no. >> not prickly? >> too kind. >> that's too kind? >> choir boy, mike was never. we were neighbors for 37 years -- 38 years. >> meaning his office was next to your office? >> next door. steve is now in that office. and there were a couple of years in there which we didn't talk to each other. >> you and mike did not speak? why was that? >> well, mike -- how do i put this? >> wow. >> mike would steal stories. >> steve, would he steal stories? >> oh, absolutely. and i always thought that the worst thing -- the worst thing than losing a story to mike was actually getting a story from mike on the rare occasion that
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it happened, because the retribution would last for six months. >> wow. >> there are also these interesting -- i mooean, you kn, the difficult times after the westporeland and finding himself after those difficult times. >> well, he went through a few difficult times, as you know. >> the death of his son. >> that's when he turned serious journalism and then -- >> that's exactly -- that's when mike -- yes, when mike decided that he wanted to make -- he wanted to do something that was important, that was satisfying. that could use his genuine talents as a journalist, despite his doubts about himself. everybody else knew he was terrific. and he was never fully certain that he was. and i think that's what accounted for this unbelievable competitiveness. that he was going to go out and
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prove, i'm as good as anybody in this racket. i used to tell him, mike, you're better than everybody in this racket. >> you know what's so interesting to me, because when we think of "60 minutes," we think hit show, but from the beginning, morley, it was just you and mike. for a long time, the show did not do well. >> well, it was -- >> harry and mike, you know, don hewitt used to say, we did a white hat and a black hat. harry was the white hat. mike was the black hat. i was the white hat. >> stay with us. i want to introduce bob schieffer. next sunday "60 minutes" will broadcast a special tribute to mike but bob schieffer coming up now. bob, can you hear us? >> i can. >> remember our colleague mike wallace for us as we sit here with morley and steve and gayle. >> well, it's been fun for me just listening to morley talk about mike way back there, and steve. you know, those of us in hard news, what people don't
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understand about a big organization like ours, there are separate areas, and all the folks at "60 minutes," they're over there and those covering the daily news we were over in another place and we didn't come together all that much. listen, i think it might have been easier to be a friend of mike wallace if you weren't competing with him every day for those stories. but he was -- he was such a wonderful person. and he was such a great newsman. and i was very interested in what morley said about he was never sure of himself. but aren't the great ones that way? i played a lot of sports in my life growing up. i never knew anybody in sports who took it for granted. the guy who hit the home runs would -- was the one who always said, if i don't hit a home run this time, they're not going to think i'm very good. and that's exactly the way mike wallace was. but, you know, the thing that i will always remember, 1976, ronald reagan was challenging
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gerald ford for the republican nomination. we all got to kansas city. we didn't know what ford was going to get it. i was on some kind of a panel with mike before that and i was giving him a ride back to the hotel. and he said to me -- he was always a needler. you would see mike and he would say, have you put on a couple of pounds, or something like that. but we're in the car with him and he came back and he said, you know, bob, you really know this story. and i can remember that as if it were yesterday. mike wallace gave me a compliment. i still remember it. it meant so much to me to know that somebody as good as mike wallace thought that maybe i knew something about this story i was covering. >> the interesting story -- >> but he was -- he was unique. i've never met anybody quite like him. >> the interesting story, too, is ronald reagan offered him the job, wanted him to be press secretary -- >> nixon. >> sorry.
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absolutely right, nixon. he said, no, i can't leave. he said, i can't imagine having to sugar coat a story. >> can i just say something about that? because i was thinking about that. what would -- you know, journalist's favorite game is playing what if. what if mike wallace had taken that job? this was 1968, before the awful convention the democrats would later have in chicago. and mike wallace was offered the job as richard nixon's press secretary. what if he had taken that job? would nixon have gone on to -- >> he would have been impeached. >> that's a good question. >> would mike wallace be someone who knew so much about journalism that he would have said, don't do these things? i just wonder, what if. what the truth was immediately and let it all hang out. you said he was the best. why was he the best, steve?
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>> oh, he was just a great interviewer. he had a knack for asking questions, for framing questions, and he was quick and cunning. and he really knew how to get under somebody's skin. i think in the interviews he always tried to do that. i think -- take a look at the khomeini interview. i think his odus operendi to put people off-balance and once he had them off balance was to try to get in their head. >> the beauty was watching him ask the question and how he was going to phrase it. >> i think the essence of what made him a great reporter, even though he didn't believe it -- >> i've got to go in 20 seconds. >> -- was getting -- he could get with a question to the very core of the heart of the story. >> thank you. thank you. thank you, bob. bob schieffer, morley safer and steve kroft. next sunday, "60 minutes" broadcasts a very special
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oklahoma, shooting spree are due in court this morning to face first-degree murder charges. >> as anna werner report, this is a racially charged case. the victims are black and the suspects are white. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, charlie. yes, it was a frightening two days here for residents, especially for african-americans, until those two suspects were caught early sunday morning after a 48 -hour manhunt by the police. tulsa police chief chuck jordan says the credit for sunday's arrest goes in large part to the tulsa community. >> we were desperate for leads. that's why we made some very pointed requests of our community to come forward, and they did. >> reporter: 19-year-old jake england and his 32-year-old roommate,al vin watts, were found holed up in a trailer. police won't speculate on the motive for the crime but
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england's background speaks of recent personal trouble. two years ago his father was shot and killed. a black man was arrested as a person of interest. then in january england's fiancee, the mother of heir infant son, took her own life. and the day before the shootings, england used a racial slur in a facebook posting describing who shot his father. today is two years that my dad has been gone, he said. it's hard not to go off between that and shiran. i'm god gone in the head. despite that, police say they're not ready to call this a hate crime. >> you can look at the facts of the case and certainly come up with what would appear to be a logical theory, but we're going do let the evidence take us where we want to go. there are other motivations than race sometimes in these kinds of incidents and we'll look at all of it. >> reporter: to city councilman jack henderson, the case is clear. >> somebody that committed these crimes were very upset with black people. that person happened to be a white person.
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the people that they happen to kill and shoot were black people. that fits the bill for me. >> reporter: sunday several dogs guarded the house where the two men lived. a woman who pulled up there didn't give her name, but said this in jake england's defense. >> he needs help. he needs help. he's not a bad person. he's really not. >> reporter: there have been some tensions here in the community with police and the african-american community in the past for some contacts. roughly 390,000 residents here, about 60,000 of those are african-americans. one thing community leaders are saying now, they feel good about the fact that the community, the african-american community in particular, was able to work with police to help bring these suspects in. charlie and gayle, back to you. >> anna, thank you very much. yesterday it was sudden death at the masters and bubba watson was deep in the woods. then he makes the shot of a champion. we'll have highlights and
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♪ the wonderful sound of the masters on sunday. bubba watson won the most coveted prize in all of golf, the masters green jacket, beating south african oosthuizen in a playoff. >> as jeff glor reports, it was a surprise win for an american who wears his heart on his sleeve. >> good morning. what a final round with five holes to go, eight players from five different countries were still in contentious. in the enthe guy with the best story hit the best shots. >> reporter: he may be the most emotional player in golf. the longest hitter, the wildest
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shot-maker. he's also now a major champion. 33-year-old bubba watson from florida won golf's biggest event from an extraordinary out of the hook shot on the second hole of a sudden death playoff. after, even he was stunned. >> i never got this far in my dreams. >> reporter: watson, who says he's never had one golf lesson his whole life, it's been an incredible up and down journey. he was three strokes back entering the final round coming back thanks to four straight birdies on the back nine. he finished second in his previous best shot in a major at the pga in 2010, while his father, who passed away later that year, was battling cancer. only two weeks ago, watson became a father for the first time. adopting a son named caleb. in an often button-down sport
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this personality has cried often at the end of tournaments, with good reason, de it again on sunday. >> this day means so much more than putting on this green jacket. in many ways. >> reporter: the second place finisher, south africa's oosthuizen was classy in defeat. phil mickelson, who made a brilliant run on saturday, put himself out of contentious with a triple bogey on sunday. and tiger woods finished 15 strokes back. highly disappointing tournament for him, following high expectations. for now, all the attention remains on watson. he wore the same outfit four days in a row at the masters, white and pink. he may want to keep that on forever. >> jeff glor joins us. what a great masters. i mean, it had everything you could possibly want. >> it was brilliant and exciting and so many players involved at the end. such a treat to see bubba watson
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win. by the way, the outfit -- golfers never do that. he did this for a cause. a charity in california that does reconstructive surgery, facial reconstructive surgery for kids who need it, and so bubba wore these outfits for charity. i mean, just -- >> the amazing thing he said he's never had a lesson. >> and he's proud of it, too. >> i know. >> he's proud of it. he's proud of the fact he's never had a lesson, never watched his swing on video. you see very unorthodox swing. you wonder how he hooked some of these shots the way does he. it's almost like a -- it's almost like a modern day mickelson in a sense. >> number one, i just like his name, bubba. do you know -- >> jerry, jerry. >> i love the line he said, i've never gotten this far in my dreams. an amazing guy. >> he absolutely wears his heart on his sleeve. >> he said, i look ahead to next week and this will all be over and i've got another day,
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voyage began those years ago. yesterday a special journey got under way to honor those lost at sea. for the 1309 passengers sailing to new york on the rmsmorel. >> we want to relive the ship of dreams. >> reporter: almost 100 years ago from this port in southampton, england, the titanic set off on her maiden voyage. the rest is history. a memorial cruise set sail yesterday to pay tribute. >> my grandfather, alexander james littlejohn was a first class steward on the titanic. >> reporter: many are board are direct descend ants of passengers. >> he was in life boat 13. he hielped to get it filled. >> my great uncle lost his life. his body never recovered. he gave his life jacket to
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othe. >> titanic is morning just a ship. it's 225 individual stories. some of which we still haven't learned. and although, perhaps, four generations have passed, the family lore and the family recollection of their loved one's involvement in this story has caused them to do all kinds of researching into the background of their loved one. >> reporter: tracy has the honor of helping a total stranger. >> a third class passenger and he was a honeymooner bringing his wife back to the united states. so, he has no children, no family to commemorate him, so i'm doing that. >> reporter: the 12-day cruise recreates the titanic's fateful routes. first off was cherbourgh, france, then ireland and then out to the site of the ship wreck where they'll hold a vigil, and then heading to halifax, canada, and then the final port, new york city. >> to complete the trip that so
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many didn't make. we're going to finish that trip for them. >> reporter: guests will enjoy some luxury that was supposed to define the titanic experience. >> there will be a titanic dish on every meal we serve, titanic band on board as well as fantastic lineup of world class lecturer. >> reporter: commodore warrick who says modern ships old their lives to the 100-year-old tragedy. >> a lot of good came out of it. ships were more like life boats, they introduced the international ice patrol and introduced 24-hour radio watch pkeeping. >> reporter: technology that should provide a safe journey for those aboard, so passengers can recount and redmrekt. >> it's a chance to remember what grandfather did 100 years ago, and also to remember those people that weren't as fortunate as him. >> reporter: that need to remember is clearly strong. passengers are drawn from 28 countries and some paid up to $9,500 to join the cruise.
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tomorrow is the day the titanic actually left from here, and i'll be live from the dock from where it set sail. >> thank you, reporting live from england. why do you think, charlie, 100 years later it's so fascinating? i went to see the movie yesterday. >> how was it in 3d? >> the movie still hold up after all these years. i'm still fascinated, too. >> you just heard the story of a man who gave up his life jacket so that a woman would survive. those kind of stories, also stories of cowardness and stories of human spirit rising to the occasion. >> yeah. and james cameron will be here later this week. can't wait to talk to him. time now for this morning's "healthwatch" with dr. holly phillips. >> good morning. in today's "healthwatch," chocolate may make you thinner. you would never consider it to be a diet food but a recenty study shows those who eat moderate amount on a regular
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basis are thinner. the research involves more than 1,000 healthy men and women who exercise more than three times a week and had a balanced nutritious diet. the body mass index for those who ate chocolate five times a week was one point lower than pregularly.idn't eat it that translalts to about six pounds, depending on your height. the study is only the latest good health news for alcoholic lovers. chocolate consumption has been linked to lower blood pressure, increase in hdl, or good cholesterol, and good blood flow. it shows it may be useful in treating migraines and inhibiting colon cancer. you can't have an entire bag of hershey kisses and lose weight. they say optimal amount is an ounce of dark chocolate a day answer "cbs healthwatch" sponsored by do you have. do you know what a difference dove nourishment can make?ounc] my hips, they know. my shins, they get it.
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no one suggest you or your opponent. >> that's very nice, what you're saying. >> but it's the way i feel. >> and i think it's true. >> and he calls you, imam, forgive me, his words, not mine, a lunatic. >> you haven't answered the question, mr. president. >> you would love to control this. >> absolutely. are you kidding? >> oh, we're remembering mike wallace, following his death
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over the weekend it was clear he was never afraid, charlie, to ask the tough -- he says, there's no such thing as an indiscreet question. >> that's true. 8:00, welcome back to "cbs this morning," i'm gayle king. >> i'm charlie rose with jeff glor. erica hill is take a very well deserved day off. warren buffett struck a nerve last year when he said america's wealthiest people should not have a lower tax rate than the middle class. now senate democrats are pushing for a vote next week on the buffett rule, a proposed tax hike for people that would make more than $1 million a year. senator chuck schumer is a proposer behind the bill. welcome. >> welcome. >> welcome to the new set. >> it's good are you here. >> just for purposes of explanation, explain the buffett rule because everybody talks about it. we know the essence of it, but what is it? >> well, it's very simple. first, if you're a very wealthy person, we have nothing against them, god bless them, they made a lot of money, but you have the opportunity to take advantage of
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certain tax breaks that average people don't. and as a result, a large percentage of people who make lots of money, millions and millions of dollars a year, pay an actual tax rate of 15%, 20%, 22% -- >> because the income is from investments. >> investments or take they advantage of different -- capital gains and dividends account for a lot of it but other deductions, too. there's all kinds of deductions. there's a whole industry of accountants and lawyers who do this. we're simply saying that 30% should be the minimum for all income over $1 million. there's one exception in the bill that senator whitehouse, our leader on this, is charitable deduction. we still want to encourage to give to charity, but there's a 30% for only income over a million. the first million goes by regular rules. >> do you believe it will, a, create jobs? do you believe, b, it will somehow reduce the inequality
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gap in america? >> yeah. look, one of our great problems in america, which people don't focus on enough, is that middle class incomes have actually gone down. median income went down over the last decade but the income of people in the top 1% or 0.1% has gone way up. and this bill is a question of fairness, making people believe in the code, and it brings in some revenue, no question about it. >> sitting in that very chair recently was the mayor of this great city. >> mayor bloomberg. >> we'll show you footage of that. >> if you just raise taxes on the rich you only raise a minimum amount of money. most of this country is middle class. and that's where most of the tax revenue is. so, if you want to raise $4 trillion over the next ten years, which gets you halfway, only halfway to a balanced budget, everybody's taxes are to go up. >> your response, senator? >> i love mike and i love the
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halfway. that's the only part of boston left. but it is true that, you know, the high-end people are not the whole answer to the problem. but they are gaining a greater and greater percentage of income. it's not -- it's no longer that they're just, you know -- for instance, the top -- i believe the top 1% in income made 23% of the income last year. so, you do get some money but it's also a question of fairness. for the average family who's struggling right now, their income is going down to -- i think the system is on the level, they should be paying less than the people who make the highest income. in items of job creation, you asked about that. you know, at minimum it brings in $47 billion. if you put that money into, for instance, keeping student loans at a low rate, there are 3.4% now, going up to 6.8%, you'd create a lot of jobs over the next five years. if you put the money into building highways, roads and
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bridges, which many of our colleagues in the house are stopping, you'd create a lot of jobs. so, if you don't want to do more deficit spending, there's a consensus there, you have to find the money somewhere, had this is a logical place to do it. no question, bloomberg is right. it's not going to answer the & whole question. you have to start somewhere. >> that targeting the ultrarich is a campaign strategy. >> this is such a bogus argument. we believe as a country higher income people should pay a higher percentage of income since the 16th amendment, came in with woodrow wilson and progressives. some of the people who, i guess, believe that the way to get this economy going is to reduce taxes on the wealthiest people, make that argument, but there's no class warfare involved. it's a question simply of fairness. and the bottom line is, most wealthy people i talk to say, yes, i shouldn't pay a lower
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rate than somebody who's my secretary. some, who are very powerful, that article in the "new york times" says, i don't to want pay any taxes but they're a small group. they have disproportionate influence with the super pacs. >> let's talk about the fairness of backage fees. i was flying recently -- >> cabbages and kings. >> gayle king here. i was asked to pay $25 -- yes, i got the joke. i thought, what is this covering again? i understand you disagree, too, with baggage fees. >> yes. >> because? >> look, what's happened is there's competition in the airlines because of the internet. you can go on and find out the best cost, so they try to hide the fees in other places. >> not so hidden. >> not so hidden. >> when you go online they'll say the price of the ticket is $300. for each bag you carry on, it's another $50, that raises the price a lot. the only thing we're asking for right now, we've asked -- i've asked all the airlines to make a
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commitment not to charge for carry-on baggage. the big airlines, to their credit, have made that commitment. but the smaller airlines are doing it. we can't stop them. i don't think we should pass legislation for this. all we want is the fcc -- the ftc to require disclosure. when they say the cost is $300 plus $50 a bag, and let people make their own decision. >> "new york times," you mentioned this a couple times, with an eye on the general election. are we looking at not only the most expensive but also, perhaps, the dirtiest campaign we have seen? >> you know, these super pacs, the republicans don't have much going for them right now. >> but the president has a super pac, as you know. >> he does, he just started it. if he had no way, there would be no super pacs, but if the people on the other i'd aren't saying that, he's not unilaterally disarming. let me say this. the tilt of the election is moving in our direction. we're focusing on middle class problems. we are focusing on the issues that matter to people. the republicans are busy moving
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to the right and ceding the senate to us. when you alienate the fastest growing group in the america, hispanics and women, you're in bad shape. the one thing republicans have going for them are these super pacs but they are potent. you hit the nail on the head, charlie. because so much of the money doesn't have to be disclosed or can be disguised through some name, is citizens for good government, the ads get nastier. when someone has to put their name on the ad, at least there's some push back. this is corrosive democracy, the best weapon republicans have, as the table is moving in our direction in just about every other way. >> they say they can play dirty without no accountability. >> it's a real worry for democracy.
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there is one day a week when you should never, ever, ever order fish. what day is that? peter greenberg is here with five not so tasty things your waiter will tell you. steve harvey asked us how to act like a lady and think like a man in a book. now he's taking his words of wisdom to the big screen. he'll be love in studio 57. you're watching "cbs this morning." ♪ [ jennifer ] better.
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the public treats it. that tidbit comes from our friends at mental floss. those of us who diet on a regular basis say, for sure, tomato is a vegetable. >> i like the veggie call. >> i do, too. as we looked around the web this morning we found a few reasons to "make a long story short." the l.a. times reports jury selection begins in a man accused of killing jennifer hudson's mother, brother and nephew. jurors had to fill out a 26-page questionnaire to answer if they had seen hudson on "american idol" or dream girls or if they belonged to weight watchers. this cannot be an easy day. the number of women marrying down has gone up. a new study found wert are better paid and educated than before they marry for love not social stanning. her granddaughter married a rugby player.
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>> a bad thing. the telegraph reports one british man may have fathered more than, listen to number, 600 babies. >> goodness. >> he started a fertility clinic in the 1940s. turns out he provided two-thirds of the donated sperm. the practice is now outlawed and we're glad about that go any rugby players in there. the first family is hosting the white house easter egg roll today. white house.gov says more than 35,000 people will gather on the south lawn. can you fit that many people on the south lawn? >> they'll figure it out. >> this year's theme is let's go, let's move, let's theme. no candy? >> no. >> come o they'll have candy. get ready for the next great reality show. the new york post reports on a show about bacon. it stars the so-called bacon boys, justin and dave, that has a company specializing in bacon tasting stuff. they're goal is to make everything taste like bacon. yahoo.com has viral video of
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one crafty cat. >> our cat oscar is a mink. he learned how to open the freezer and get frozen fish sticks. >> yeah, right, here it is. oscar pulls open -- climbs up, pulls open the freezer door. swings back and then they can get the fish sticks out. oscar can get the fish sticks out. the owners now have to lock the freezer to keep oscar out. >> so many viral video, jeff, are like watching people's home movie but i think that's funny. >> haven't had fish sticks in so long. >> i'll pass on that today. did you order the special of the day at your favorite restaurants? find out why it may not be so special when peter greenberg
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our travel editor peter greenberg has eaten in the world's greatest and not so greatest restaurants in his journeys. >> and he'll tell you five things your waiter will not tell you. >> good morning, former bus boy. >> my first job ever. i'm taking my wife to dinner tonight. we should not get grilled fish? >> monday is the one day you don't want to order fish because the restaurants don't get their deliveries today. they got them on friday, which also applies to the shell fish you may not want to order yesterday. the other issue, when you ask your waiter, is fish fresh? the technical answer is, yes, it's fresh frozen.
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came fresh from the freezer. so -- >> they leave out the frozen part. >> you wonder why fish restaurants aren't open on monday in that's why. >> the other thing i like to know is the specials. when you're taking your wife out to celebrate their ninth anniversary -- >> we're taking everything off the menu tonight. >> what is the special? >> the special may not be that special because a lot of times with stews and casseroles they're putting ingredients in there they couldn't move three days ago. so, stay away from the stews and casseroles if you're ordering a special. >> new york city is a huge brunch land, as gayle knows well. why should we -- all of us, why should we stay away from brunch? >> no, things are amazing but a lot you see at a brunch, they make platters are also things that didn't sell during the week and you have to be careful about that. plus on sunday brunches a lot of hotel restaurants when they say it's eggs, unless you see them cooked to order, they're made from a powder. just so you know. >> i'm wondering, why would a
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waiter tell us this stuff. >> of course, that's why i'm here. vegetarians? >> not everything claimed to be vegetarian is. this is an example where the waiter may not tell you because he may not know. this is a situation where a lot of things are cooked in beef stock like french onion soup or fried foods may be cooked in animal lard. if you're a veg tapetarian, thaa no-no. >> i found the last point fascinating. it's about coffee. >> late at night, about the only thing that's usually available in coffee is decaf, whether you like it or not. unless you fresh brew it, you're getting decaf. >> do people like you doing these five things they don't want us to know? >> don't you like me doing it? >> i like it. >> there you go. >> but if i'm a waiter, i might be irritated. >> the educated waiter will get customers that keep coming back. >> we'll show up at the restaurant tonight and they'll
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and twirled her around. goshgs i love a guy that loves his mom. mrs. springsteen did a really good job. welcome back to "cbs this morning." actor, median and radio host steve harvey became a best selling author when he advised women to act like a lady but think like a man. >> now that book has inspired a new movie called "think like a man." >> steve, i keep hooking up with guys who don't want a relationship. >> why don't you stop hooking up. >> did you hear that? >> men respect women who have standards. just get some. >> oh! >> steve, i'm a partner in my law firm. i own my own home but i've been single for three years. why can't i find a man to live up to my starnsdz? >> you make six figures. does he have to? >> yes. >> do you own your own home. does he have to yes? >> yes and yes. >> steve harvey, good morning. i remember when the book came out. we were all -- a lot of us were carrying it around with little dog ears on it say, see this
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part, see this part. welcome. you said that you know many things but you're an expert in being a man. >> that's really it. >> what does that mean? >> look, you know, people got to put labels on everything so they've come up with this, he's a relationship expert. no guy is a relationship expert. i'm an expert at one thing and that's being a man. you want to know how to be a man, me and jeff can help you out. you want to know how to be in a relationship, we're not very smart at that. >> this is a twist, though, on the book. in what way? >> well, you know, i think that it captured it really, really smartly except they took about five different -- they took four different couples out of the book that were premises in the book like the 90-day rule, you know, the strong, independent, lonely woman. >> what is the 90-day rule. >> it's very simple. >> i like this. >> it was very simple. i lot work for a company for 90 days to take part in benefits,
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same thing at post office, fedex. a woman who has the greatest benefit package of them all should wait 90 days before they start passing out benefits. >> i actually think that that's a really good rule but i was having a conversation with some of the younger women in the office and they said to me they think the 90-day rule is antiquated. three dates is good. >> three? >> yeah, actually -- >> three? >> 20-something women said to me, three dates. >> i said, shouldn't it be at least ten. somebody said to me, steve, i could be dead in ten. i could be dead in ten. >> wow. >> do you think maybe you're out of touch with the times of today? about the 90-day rule? >> i like it. >> i do, too. >> look, 90 days is nothing when you're talking about a relationship. >> i totally agree. >> you're trying to get into a relationship with a guy for an extended period of time. if you want hit it and quit it relationships knock it down to nine days and you can be as successful as you've already been. >> knock it down to one. >> yeah. you can do one-night stands and those relationships don't hardly
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ever last. what's wrong? it's only three months. you could still date the guy. >> i believe you. >> you just don't pass yourself -- i wrote this book for my daughters. look, i got four daughters. i'm a dad. and i've done everything in this book. and, buddy, it really does work, you know. >> you said that men like confident women, independent women, but they don't like needy women. but you also say men like to be protective. so, isn't there a part of a man that likes a woman who's a little needy? >> yeah, yeah. needy but not needy as in you're pulling my coat sleeve off all day. i want you to need me. honey, can you do this? you're so big and strong. a guy likes a woman to feel like -- make him feel like he's needed. but we don't want you to be needy. make me happy, make me smile, weigh me, you know. how do i -- am i too fat? you can't ask a guy that, you know. >> i got it. >> you know, it takes a while to learn the answers to all of
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that. >> sir, you have been married three times. you're qualified because -- >> yeah, yef, your point is? >> he's raising -- >> i'm on water, very simple. >> he's raising a good point, steve harvey. >> well, failure is a wonderful teacher. i mean, i failed enough times to know how to get it right. i know all the mistakes i made. i know all the mistakes women allowed me to make. and i put them in a book for you. so, you know, i mean, look -- >> i like that part, women allowed to you make the mistake? >> yeah, women allowed me to make a lot of these mistakes. >> because you say women, we teach people how to treat us. >> if you don't have your standards intact and you lout me to come in and exact mind and you come up on the short end, that's really my fault now? >> so it's their fault? >> maybe you just shouldn't be a jerk, steve harvey. i'm not talking about you, but men shouldn't be a jerk.
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>> they shouldn't. but men can be taught proper behavior. men can be required to have proper behavior. and that falls the responsibility on a woman. if you don't want to be treated like a jerk, don't allow a guy to treat you like a jerk. that's what the book talked about. that's what the movie goes into, empowering women. a lot of women take, you know, a lot of fault with some of the things i say. if you look at it and talk to real men, it proves out to be true. >> and real men, regardless of your ethnicity, black, white, this is relatable for everybody, i thought. >> you know, and that's the success of the movie, too. even though the predominant men's of the cast are african-americans, this moveie s not written culturally. it's for men and women. we are all the exact same. don't matter what color -- look, we're not very tender, we're not
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great communicators. i don't care who you are. >> we're not very tender. >> you're not. >> that's true. >> if you are -- >> it is true. >> yeah, he's not tender. >> he's celebrating his ninth anniversary. i think he's got something. >> we are going to dinner. a nice dinner. >> well, hi nine of them too at one time. >> i love the pocket story. >> you love that? >> i do. >> continued success to you, mr. harvey. >> i love you, gayle. you're great on this show. you look wonderful. >> thanks. i'm having a great time. "think like a man" is the name of the movie. hits all bases. >> i'm tender. >> i happen to think he's tender. hits theaters on april 20th, next friday. nicholas sparks is not a hollywood guy but seven of hits books have -- >> he's tender. >> he's extremely tender. we'll talk with him about that and what he thinks of the 90-day rule and a lot more.
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i like philosophy. >> really? yeah, i like to read. >> quote your favorite philosopher. >> sometimes the questions are complicated and answers are simple. >> don't tell me. voltare? it is, isn't it? >> it's dr. seuss. >> the new movie "the lucky one" is based on a nicholas sparks best seller, a marine searching for a woman he believes was his good luck charm serving in i iraq. >> he writes the kind of love stories translating well onto the big screen. he joins us here, broadcast house. it's good to see you. >> good to see you. >> it's like old home week here. >> it really is. >> i don't know if you heard steve harvey talking about the 90-day rule. as someone who writes about love stories, did you hear the 90-day rule? >>dy. >> okay.
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you know what my next question is for you, charlie rose, speak into the microphone. >> you're going to the wrong person. >> okay. the 90-day rule he says, when you're dating, that the 90-day rule should be observed. as one who writes great love stories, by the way, what do you think? >> i think it's great because i have daughters. i think it's tough, though, in in day and age. i don't think -- a lot of times, to meet a guy who will -- >> who will wait 90 days. >> may not be -- may not always be possible. doesn't necessarily reflect a very bad person either, you know. i think if you meet the right person, you know, i met my wife on monday. i told her that we would get married on tuesday. the very next day. >> the day after you met her? >> the day after i met her. we've been married for 23 years. we have five children. >> how did you know she was the one? >> you know, we had so much -- we had so much in common. she was incredibly smart. she's kind.
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she had a great sense of humor. but all the big things in life, we had the same views on all thesis, you know, do you want to have kids, live in the city, do you want to be at home when the kids are little, same kind of, you know, older brother, younger sister. just this whole thing. so, we just had a lot in common. >> i love the family dynamic he has. >> north carolina. >> yeah. >> oh, yeah. >> why? >> yeah, why. i like north carolina. >> charlie is from there. >> i like the change -- i like the culture. i like the pace of life. i'm a small town guy. i think it's a wonderful place to raise a family but it's also -- you know, it's got this -- you're right at that median where you can change the way -- you get all the change of season, right? you get the change of seasons but not too cold, not too hot. it's kind of the best of all these worlds. it's a great place to write novels. >> i like north carolina. >> her son went to duke. >> very nice. >> i like "the lucky one".
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>> is it the same for you writing all these novels? i mean, how do you go about it? >> oh, my gosh. when you take something like "the lucky one" or any of my novels, it's pretty much the same thing. my first decision is i start with the age of the characters because it will inform dilemmas. if you're writing about young people, for instance, you know that it was probably the fi time they're ever falling in love, right, but if you write about someone in their 40s, let's say, well, maybe they've had a relationship, maybe they haven't. they've been married, divorced. you have all these things. you start with the age and you start piecing together ideas. for this one "the lucky one" i had this idea of this -- i started with his age, in the 20s, eastern north carolina, that says military, among other options, finds this photograph and he -- he begins to -- he thinks it saved his life and he has to find the reason for that. >> not every writer wants to be involved in the script process, in the hollywood process. you, generally speaking, want to be involved in that process. why? >> yeah.
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well, there's -- number one, it's fun, right? gets me out of the house, otherwise i'm always homebound writing novels. you want to make sure they do a good job with the script and the casting and the director. so, i'm certainly involved. i talk -- >> you're very involved. >> that's the fun part of what i do. the key though, it's funny, is to not be too involved. you really have to know when to pull back -- >> isn't that hard with your work? >> yes. >> hard not to be too involved because it's yours? >> yes. but it's the challenge. if i get too involved, what happens is "the lucky ones" ends up being too close to "dear john" or "message in a bottle" or "a walk to remember." you want to allow the creative people, actors, directors, producers to put their stamp on it so all these films feel differently. you can enjoy "the lucky one" and you could have enjoyed "the song" -- >> but it's now their story. >> but if they want to work with me again, you know, i -- look, i
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work with really good people. >> they to want make you happy. >> you're exact tli rigly right first one. have you no right whatsoever. i've been around for a long time and i have a lot of good relationships -- >> zac efron was a surprise to me. i see him as "high school musical" but, number one, he looks the part, sounded the part. did you have any say in casting zac efron? >> was he your choice? >> absolutely. it wasn't -- >> cow know about them before you write them, potentially? >> i was looking for someone -- in talking to the other producer, we were looking for someone the right age, 24, 25, you want someone who's been in front of the camera before a whole bunch of things he's going to work to and you wanted someone who was -- who was just a genuinely nice guy. >> have you gotten to the point you're thinking movie when you start writing the book? >> i kind -- i'm pretty aware, yeah, i'm pretty aware they're going to be filmed. but really all that does is it raises the bar because now i just -- i don't only have to be
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original as far as novels go, it also has to be original for film. so, you have to kind of know what's going on. for instance, i could never write a love story like "sweet home alabama" or a love story set on the titanic because even though they weren't books -- >> "love story". >> whole another conversation. >> that's a whole other conversation. >> thank you very much. best on to your wife. >> yes. i love they still have date nights. >> great. "the lucky one" opens in theaters next friday, april 20th. >> so does steve harvey's movie opens. >> up against each other. >> you have to go to both of them, tv viewers. an brad meltzer talks about how he chooses 55 heroes for his daughter. [ glass clinks ]
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brad melzer is on the hit channel, readers know him as best seller of "the inner circle" and "the book of fate". >> his new book "heroes for my daughters" has men and women as he sees as good examples for his daughters. welcome. >> thank you very much. >> so when lila was born -- >> i said i'm going to write a book for her whole life and fill it full of stories to make her a good woman. hi done something similar for my son -- >> the book for your daughter is bigger. >> she says, one, more heroes and, two, her book is bigger. she said after two years, where the heck is my book? my son had one. she wanted one. it started with heroes like sally ride, the famous astronaut but why did she get picked?
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some say it's because she was a physics generous, others say it was because she was fearless. the toout is she saw an opportunity and grabbed it. she saw an ad in her college newspaper and grabbed it. she had to see the opportunity and grab it. i tell my daughter that all the time. amelia earhart to christopher reeve to shower her how to be a great woman. >> three stooges. tina turner i got, amelia ear heart, and then the three stooges? >> the three stooges were the very first people to take on adolf hitler. i don't like them because they bash each other in the head but they parodied adolf hitler, these three jewish men. i love they stood up to the bully and i want my daughter to realize that. >> women are not weak, read that again, lila. women are not weaker be just as strong, creative and filled with
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just as much potential as any men. yes, as your father. my instinct is to protect you like the first day with the nurses. other people want to protect you, too, but you're not a damsel in distress waiting for a prince to rescue you. with your brain and resourcefulness, you can rescue yourself. >> that's my favorite line. my editor said, we have a problem. she said, you use one word over and over. i lsd, what's the word? fighter. i use it in over 12 heroes. i use is-t in the dalai lama passage. i want my daughter to learn how to fight. i don't apologize for that. when she sees something, she should fight for it. when she sees injustice she should fight harder than ever before. my faith line, i tell my daughter, don't be the princess waiting for the prince to rescue you. you can rescue yourself. >> that was my favorite line, too. >> it's beautiful. whether you have daughters or sons. i wonder -- your day job, we
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should say, is writing political thrillers, national security thrillers. you consult for the department of homeland security. >> yeah. i get calls and when the department of homeland security gave me a call and said we want you to brain storm ways terrorists can attack us i thought, we're screwed. i thought, if they're calling me, we have bigger problems. >> but you went to the meeting. >> i did go. i love doing it. to me, again, they're hero stories. unsung heroes. my favorite hero in the book is my grandmother. my grandmother recently died. the book comes out on what would have been her 94th birthday. when my grandmother lost her husband, my grand fore, they said, you know what, she'll never go on. when she went blind they said, she'll never go on. she went on. when she went deaf they said, she'll never go on. she kept going on. she had nothing but because she had family she thought she had everything. the best hero in the book is the last page, it's blank.
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