good morning. it is wednesday, april 18, 2012. welcome to studio 57 at the cbs broadcast center. i'm charlie rose. a new cbs news poll finds mitt romney tied with president obama as more republicans get behind romney. house speaker john boehner talks about the november campaign only on "cbs this morning." >> you'll see some new thing out of this campaign. >> like what in. >> a real focus on what the election's going to be about. i'm gayle king. as many as 20 women are linked to the secret service sex scandal. we'll go to the white house with new developments on that. i'm erica hill. a handsome british businessman murdered in china.

we'll take you inside the murder mustry grabbing headlines around the globe. we begin with a look at today's "eye opener" your world in 90 seconds. >> charlie, this election's going to be a refuse dumb on the president's economic policies. it didn't help the economy. actually made it worse. >> the gop lines up behind-m mi romney. >> the president doesn't understand what's unique and exceptional. >> as cbs news poll shows a dead heat for mid-november. >> the secret service now says its agents brought as many as 21 prostitutes back to their hotel. >> military people actually went to a brothel in cartagena, colombia, called the pley club. >> the president wants it investigated. >> bill clinton said, i am on it. >> in texas, a newborn there has

been found alive after his mother was gunned down. >> witnesses say a woman shot golden several times and the baby was snatched from her by a man. >> i loved her. she loved me. everything was going fine until today. >> warren buffett has been diagnosed with stage one prostate cancer. he says his condition is not life-threatening. the woman plowed her car right into a supermarket full of shoppers. no one was killed. >> kim kardashian, mayor of glendale. media celebrities says she's serious but it coo it happen. >> oink oink. there you have it. >> she says she's the ultimate cougar. >> i am. >> make love to betty white. >> and all that matters. >> jamie moyer made baseball history at 49. the oldest pitcher ever to win a major league ball game. >> i'm still able to live the dream. >> on "cbs this morning." >> in japan, a 76-year-old man has spent the last 20 years living naked on a remote island. now the man is famous for having the least successful match.com

profile ever. welcome to "cbs this morning." for the first time top two republicans are backing mitt romney's presidential campaign. >> john boehner and mitch mcconnell endorsed romney, a year after the 2012 campaign began. >> after that announcement, speaker boehner sat down with us at the capitol for his first national interview. >> you endorsed mitt romney today. how much did the primary campaign do to his election that he faces? >> i don't think there was any real damage done. it got messy. just like the race four years ago between barack obama and hillary clinton. it went on until june of 2008. charlie, this election's going to be a referendum on the

president's economic policy. it did not help the economy. it actually made it worse. >> what's the debate going to be, what we've just been talking about? >> no. it's going to be over the president's economic policies. pure and simple. they've made matters worse. america should be doing a lot better today, but when you look at his calls for higher taxes, his refusal to deal with the debt, the regular regime here in washington out of control, they've scared every business person and investor in america. that's why you see record amounts of cash in these businesses, in banks, because they don't know what tomorrow's going to look like. >> no one doubts you're not in touch, not only with the constituents you have ohio but generally, you're that kind of guy. is mitt romney that kind of guy? he's had a very different lifestyle from you. >> we're all different. different personalities -- >> but can he be in touch? does he need to figure out how

to are the same kind of visceral appeal? . >> i think he's done a good job in a republican primary. understand some very difficult circumstances. and i think he's prepared for this general election and will appeal to more than half of america. >> but after any primary, there's always a little retooling. always some adjustments in terms of now you have a different opponent. so, i think you'll see some new things out of this campaign. >> like what? >> a real focus on what the election's going to be about. >> well -- >> economicing, economics, economics. >> well, he's pulled back in this the other day in a closed meeting. he talked about, perhaps, abolishing hew -- hud as well as department of education. >> well, there were a lot of things said there, all right? we've got to make choices. we shouldn't criticize candidates because they're talking about the big choices that we have to make.

when you have a $1.3 trillion budget deficit, have you to do something. >> the president would say to you, if you said that to him x you're friends, this is going to be a referendum on the ryan budget. because the speaker has even said, it's a vision of what we want to do. >> the president's going to try to make the election about anything other than his failed economic policy. because he can't run on his record. so, they're going to pull out every boogie man they can. the fact is, is that we've got a serious problem. that's why republicans have a plan, from america job creators, to put america back to work. >> do you think the ryan plan is to do that, because governor romney has made it at one with him. >> somebody in this town has to own up to the problems we face. >> and that --. >> and that budget does it. now, if the president doesn't like that budget, where is his budget? his budget failed on the floor

of the house, zero to 414. not one democrat or one republican voted for the president's budget. why? because he wasn't serious about dealing with america's problem. >> the catholic bishops today said that the ryan budget fails to meet moral criteria and disproportionately cuts programs that seven the poor and vulnerable, which sounds like the president. >> i understand. listen, when you look at the budget choices that we have to make, it's time that congress and washington and the president quit kicking the can down the road and address our challenges. i don't believe our budget will hurt the poor in any way. i don't think it will hurt the safety net in any way. but we can't continue to spend money we don't have. >> why cannot two people who are friends come to some understanding on this grand bargain and make it happen because of the american people want it to happen?

>> i sat for months with the president. he wanted revenue. i said, mr. president, i'll put revenue on the table that we can achieve without affecting our tax code. but the only way i'll do that is if you're willing to have real, fundamental reform of our entitlement programs. and the fact is, is we have an agreement. then two days later the president decided he wanted $400 billion of more revenue, which was next --. >> but at the same time, you came to an agreement, in your mind, that was acceptable. >> until he lost his courage. >> lost his courage? >> he lost his courage. >> he couldn't face what? >> why did he blow the deal up? >> what did he tell you? >> that he needed more revenue, needed more revenue. he lost his courage. >> will anything happen between now and the election? >> i would hope so. but i'm not optimistic. the president checked out last labor day.

all he's done is campaign full time for the last six months. he's not been engaged in the legislative process at all. there have been no effort at trying to work with democrats and republicans to address this issue at all. and it's shameful. >> he's able to change the emphasis of the future or to the ryan plan or to governor romney -- >> the american people -- >> if he prevents it -- >> the american people vote with their wallet. they have for the history of our country and it's not going to change. >> we'll have more of that interview in our next hour. speaker boehner talk about the sometimes rough relationship with the president only on "cbs this morning." the race between romney and president obama is now dead even, according to a cbs news/"new york times" poll released just this morning. 46% of registered voters say they will vote for the president, the same number say they'll vote for romney. meantime, more republican primary voters are now backing romney, 33% say they

that's up five points from january. >> with us from washington be, political director john dickerson. good morning. >> good morning, charlie. >> what's happening with these numbers? >> well, the republican party is slowly gathering behind mitt romney. still some reservations out there for people. that's to be expected after a bruising primary. remember, in that primary there was the hard core of the conservative base that couldn't get over mitt romney. no matter, you know, they kept looking for other alternatives. so there's a little of that lingering out there. you do see the republican party coming behind mitt romney and he's basically reminding them, we're all in this against president obama. >> so, electability now becomes a big issue for the republicans and they're willing to support the guy that -- the primary process has chosen. will they be enthusiastically, these conservatives who supported santorum and gingrich and others? >> right now that group of

conservatives are not enthusiastic about mitt romney but very enthusiastic about beating the president. we saw last week in this flap about women's and ann romney and her role and women's roles, that was a impavl nizing moment for conservatives. if there continue to be a number of those in which conservatives can see something they don't like about democrats or this president, that will help mitt romney a great deal. >> what speaker boehner lays out is that he hopes this will will be a referendum on obama. the president says to say it will be a referendum on the ryan budget and what it would mean for the country. >> that's right. as you were trying to say in your interview there with him, that's the president. the choice don't want this just to be a referendum. if you look at polls, this they have consistently shown the way president obama has handled the economy. thumbs up or down on his handling of the economy, the president is in bad shape. what they'll hope to say is, don't look at the past, look at the future, where things are

headed. people are starting to think the economy is getting better. a lot of people think it's going in the wrong direction. the president will hope to say, look, the future's a little brighter and brighter with me than with the other team. >> each going to spin it to their advantage. john, speaker bonier wy boehne talking to charlie and said the president lost his courage when it came to budget negotiations. how much will courage or lack thereafter be as we head into november? >> if it's a conversation just about reducing deficits, republicans will do well. people trust romney on that question over president obama. if the conversation is about who's going to be more fair in the future in terms of dividing up the government and also if everybody's got to sacrifice, who will have the fair distribution and sacrifice. that's turf on which the president would like to fight the election, in which he's got a slightly better chance. the budget will be a big conversation and they will both

be fighting about what exactly it means to have a fight over the budget. >> one last question from me, john. this notion of the gender gap, how will the romney campaign go at trying to change those numbers, which are overwhelming? >> they will basically go back to the economy. they'll say, look, the president is trying to have all of these side fights about nonimportant issues, but women, which is the group that mitt romney has difficulty with, you need to think about your economic conditions and think about the president and his handling of the economy. they're hoping to just drive home that exact same message from the general election. what they'll need to do is make mitt romney a little more approachable. they're sort of redefining him now. that will also be part of it. >> thank you. >> john dickerson, thanks. turning to the secret service sex scandal, investigators are in cartagena, colombia, asking exactly what happened. witnesses say up to 20 women

were involved with aides and secret service. nora o'donnell is at the white house with the latest. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you. we've learned new information. the secret service now wants to polygrap a number of those agents and officers involved in this. part of the reason, a lot of those agents are telling different stories about exactly what happened. but as one law enforcement official tells us, they're going to do this because, quote, we want to use every possible tool to get to the bottom of this. this is the strip club, the pley club, where cbs news learned president obama's security team was partying 48 hours before the president arrived in colombia. the men, 11 secret service and 10 military members met as many as 20 foreign women, some prostitut prostitutes, and reportedly paid them $60 each to go to their cartagena hotel. the two highest ranking members are receiving briefings on the investigation. they want to know whether

national security was jeopardized. >> we don't know what kind of access these women had to highly classified information. >> reporter: connecticut senator joe lieberman said if the allegations are true, people should be punished. he's considering holding a hearing on the scandal. but a top law enforcement official tells cbs news, no sensitive information was compromised 37 these agents had not yet received a briefing on the president's trip and would not have had his schedule. the pentagon is also investigating. it's looking into the ten military members involved, which includes five members of the army's elise special forces. at the white house, the president spokesman would not answer questions on whether this is an isolated incident or a pattern of behave. is the president convinced this is not part of a broader cull toural problem? >> again, there is an investigation ongoing that we should let take its course before we speculate about its

conclusions. >> reporter: and the investigation is growing, too. there's that military investigation. investigators down in colombia. secret service has it's own internal investigation and now the department of homeland security, which oversees the secret service, is launching their own investigation as well. >> nora o'donnell at the white house, thank you. yesterday we talked about the skajtsdz with former secret service agent dan now running for u.s. senate in maryland. we spoke with him because he had spoken to a number of the agents who were directly involved. we asked him what they had told him. after the interview we learned his brother was with the secret service detail in colombia. i spoke with him yesterday on the phone in the afternoon, asking him about thinks brother's involvement. he said, while he is helping the investigation, he is not a target of the investigation. in texas, newborn baby has been found in good condition after someone shot his mother to death outside a doctor's office. police are questioning a person of interest. the child was stolen yesterday,

in spring, texas. as michelle miller reports, the baby was taken from his mother's arms. >> reporter: 3-day-old keegan schuchardt was found hours after his mother was gunned down in this parking lot in houston. >> nice, sweet, loveable. i loved her. she loved me and everything was going fine. until today. >> reporter: authorities say 28-year-old kala golden was leaving a pediatrician's office with her son when she apparently got into an argument with another woman in a parked car. witnesses said the woman shot golden several times before grabbing the child from his carseat and way. golden fought desperately to hang on, screaming for her baby. >> she tried to get the child from the vehicle and she was dragged to the ground as the car took off. >> she's laying on the ground, she wasn't moving for nothing. then i saw them drive off in that direction. >> reporter: police issued an

amber alert and sealed off the parking lot. they raided a nearby apartment complex and hauled away a vehicle that matched the description of the suspect's car. baby keegan was found at another investigation and authorities were conducting a background check on the entire family before releasing him. >> obviously, when you have a kidnapping case or aggravated kidnapping case on top of a murder, this is dire circumstances. >> now golden's husband is trying to come to grips with raising his three children without a mother. >> it's hard, man. it's hard. i'm going to miss her a lot. >> reporter: for "cbs this morning," i'm michelle miller. time to show you some of this morning's headlines from around the globe. "the new york times" reports that pay packages for top citigroup executives were rejected in a stockholder suit. about 55% of stockholders voted against the big executive payday, including $15 million for citigroup's ceo. the rote is not binling but officials say they are taking it seriously.

one day after the tax deadline, "usa today" reports u.s. troops have about $390 million in back taxes. the irs blames confusion. warren buffett says early stage prostate cancer is no cause for alarm. he will get radiation treatments in nebraska beginning in july. britain telegraph has the official change. the games begin in 100 days. and the oregonian reports that a man tried to get through security at portland international airport naked last night. john brennan says he was protesting against tsa screeners who were allegedly harassing

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under president obama's watch -- >> that blame has to go right to the president. he's the guy in charge. he's the ceo. and his department heads are out there throwing our money away. you should put the responsibility where it lies. >> yes, the president is responsible for anything the government does while he's in office. i waited 17 minutes at the post office today and there was an empty window there the whole time. where was obama? >> welcome back to "cbs this morning." now, an update on a story we reported last week. the investigation into a british businessman's death in china. the leading suspect in this murder mystery is wife of former high-ranking chinese official. >> this morning chinese government says it's committed to finding the truth.

as barry petersen reports, it's a political embarrassment for the chinese and led to headlines around the world. >> reporter: the british government ratcheted up the pressure on china, demanding better answers about last november's death of british businessman neil heywood in western china. william hague late tuesday raced the issue in parliament. >> a decided a few weeks ago to ask china to reopen an investigation into the death of neil heywood. >> reporter: haywood the enter of a murder investigation that has brought down bo xilai. i interviewed bo more than a decade ago when he was the mayor of a coastal city and already considered a fast rising political star. >> it's a hot job. >> reporter: bo xilai was destined to become one of china's top leaders. bo was party boss in chongqing, a fast-growing city of 30 million. last week a state tv

announcement said he had been stripped from all his posts. his wife, gu kailai is under arrest as leading suspect in the heywood murder and reuters is reporting heywood may have been killed am a dispute over his cut in illicitly moving what was called a large sum of money out of gu. as if all of this isn't sorted enough, attention is shifting to the party, high living style of their son, educated at oxford and a master student at havb ard university. his facebook page details nights of women and alcohol, but doesn't answer how the son of a party official who makes a modest income can live like the child of royalty. all of this has become a political earthquake for the communist party. embarrassed by the spreading scandal and with other top leaders who have children being educated overseas. observers think the party is hoping swift action will make bo's case disappear fast before the people of china start

wondering outloud if this kind of corruption reaches all the way to the top. for "cbs this morning," barry petersen. >> nicholas kristof of "new york times" has reported on china for more than 20 years. welcome. >> delighted to be here. >> tell me the two theories, if there are more than one, of this case, how he was the man on the rise to become perhaps one of the moss powerful people in china. his wife is now the leading suspect in the murder of a british businessman. >> yeah. for china watchers this is unbelievable, this scandal. there are not two theories, about you thousands of theories. they fall into two categories. one is bo's family's corruption caught up with him. his wife attempted to murder -- or did murder this businessman, neil heywood probably because he was trying to transfer -- he was transferring the family money out of the country, corruptly, and they were bickering --. >> and it would embarrass them

for political purposes. >> he may have threatened to expose this if he diplomat get the price he was asking for. that's one theory. another theory by supporters of bo xilai is this is a frame-up. his opponents are trying to destroy a political rival precisely because he is quite popular. >> he was not a typical leader in china. he was more flamboyant, more interesting. >> and he was actually campaigning for the standing committee, which in china isn't done. people were nervous. it's striking in the year before his -- before this catastrophe for him, six of the nine members of the committee went to chongqing to, in a sense, pay a visit to him and now they're cutting him off at the knees. >> because he was doing a revival of mao. >> he was reviving maoist ideology and at the same time becoming a red capitalist. >> he was a huge capitalist at the same time, sort of showing the kind of smirt of mao as revitalized idea in china. >> yeah.

maoist curtain on a very capitalist -- >> and then there was -- this is yesterday's "new york times." son's gate elite fall of chinese family. in recent years became another liability for his father. on, this is a whole family saga. >> and his son was at oxford, was photographed with these beautiful women, him with his shirt on and off. and then he was suspended there for a year. went to harvard to the kennedy school. now has disappeared. so, it's a whole episode, just this mystery. all we know is there's a dead body. we don't know exactly what happened. >> and the british government is upset about that. >> understandably because they want to get to the bottom of that. when we talk about his son, that's something we don't see in addition to the wealth the family had, the flamboyance, but the way he was so flamboyant about it, i mean, it almost has the make gdz of a soap opera here in the united states. put it in per peculiartive for

us. we hear bo xilai was a powerful guy. equivalent of what, the speaker of the house here? >> yeah, the speaker of the house, a leading senator. he was a major national figure and a contender for top national power. his wooifls were really nervous about him. >> and the parents of somebody who had been part of the elite in the revolution. >> his father was a major figure. one of the immotorals of china. and how his salary is sending him to british public school, oxford and harvard school, spending a couple hundred thousand dollars on his education. >> what do you believe china wants to see happen here? >> i think most want to see -- >> the story go away? >> well-being chinese was telling me last night they want to see him crushed so that he will never rise again. they are, i think, scared of

him, hugely embarrassed. this is the biggest and most open debate within leadership since tiananmen and they've been completely humiliated by this. and bo xilai's own deputy then tried to defect to the united states consulate. sneaked into the consulate, wearing a wiig, apparently handed over a secret to the u.s. -- >> and then the chinese came and got him. >> the consulate was surrounded. he was afraid if he left the consulate he would be murdered on the spot. he calls in reinforcement from beijing to escort him to safety. i mean -- >> you can't make it up. >> you can't make it up. >> thanks for being here. the federal government is releasing more police departments than ever before. what some cops are accused of and why the justice department is watching them so closely. [ bell tolls ] so, agents, why did i make you wear these costumes? because the new avengers movie is coming out. and what does that have to do with us?

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investigation of that city's police force. >> authorities will be looking for possible civil rights violations in other cases. senior correspondent john miller reports, the investigation is actually part of a much wider pattern. >> reporter: this video allegedly showing latino residents being harassed by police in the small town of east haven, connecticut, is at the heart of a growing controversy. over civil rights violations at the hands of the law. >> the officer asked what i was doing. away. and i told them. and i was videotaping. >> reporter: father james manship shot this video and was immediately arrested. he says it's just another example of east haven police abusing their power against the latino community. >> we did have stories of people, you know, of physical violence against them, threats made against them and their families. >> reporter: after his arrest, father james filed a civil rights complaint with the u.s. department of justice on behalf

of east haven's small latino community. the two east haven police officers in this video were indicted with two others on federal civil rights charges alleging they used their badges to assault, harass and falsely arrest latinos. some residents had come to fear those who were paid to protect them. >> everybody's afraid. they're running, right? that's what we do. >> reporter: according to the justice department report, the pattern or practice of discriminatory policing is deeply rooted in the department's culture. >> from time to time in our police work we find departments that are, frankly, broken from top to bottom. >> reporter: assistant attorney general tom perez, justice department's top civil rights official, says east haven isn't the only broken police department. >> we have more investigations under way than ever before. the problems are far reaching. in east haven the problems are far reaching in new orleans.

the problems are far reaching in puerto rico. >> reporter: there are currently 17 major police and sheriff's departments under investigation allegedly for civil rights abuses across the country. including this fatal shooting of a homeless native american man on a street corner in seattle. the killing of james chassy, a 42-year-old schizophrenic from portland and this beating of an inmate in a south carolina jail. is it because this issue has broken out? is it cops gone wild? or is it an issue that was ignored? >> i think there was an old paradigm of how to deal with police issues. that is, you either reduce crime or you respect the constitution, but you can't do both. that approach will inevitably lead to the belief that, well, we shouldn't second guess police departments.

i categorically reject that notion. in maricopa county, arizona, the flamboyant safsh, josee sheriff. >> i'm not a social worker. i'm a cop. >> american policing describes itself as a professional, but when you match it up against other professionals and the authorities knowledge and practices for which their practitioners have to adhere to, still have a long way to go. >> reporter: bill bratton has run three major police departments, los angeles, new york city and boston. he knows well the symptom of a broken system and how to fix them. >> its leadership is sending signals that anything goes. and it will be those in the organization that are going to take advantage of that. >> a front line police officer, his or her most important current is the confidence of the public. >> john miller is here.

will we see more of this? this is a trend that will continue because of brutality and civil rights violations? >> well, i mean, to state the obvious, 99% of police officers, of course, 18,000 law enforcement agencies in the country go to work and do a great job every day. i think when you see 17 of these going, you might see more of them. that's the department department's posture on this which is we're going to get into these things. on the other hand, police departments, police chiefs may look at this trend and say, i need to clean up inside before they get here. >> is there ongoing conflict between the feds and locals say, you know, we'll take care of our own business, thank you very much? >> that's a pretty daunting thing, to have the justice department come over and say, here's a new way of doing things. as bill bratton points out, it's the chief who gets involved in that process and says, let's figure out how to fix this together, ends up getting a better contract, if you will, with the justice department than the one who just says, well, you know, whatever you want to do, we'll stick with

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president obama has ordered an investigation into the secret service sex scandal. yep. and before obama had even finished issuing the order, bill clinton said, i'm on it. >> i need to start all over again. i often wonder does bill clinton ever say, enough already? >> i think the statue of limitations kicks in at some point. >> that's what i'm wondering if he says enough, enough, enough. >> i think he might but they're not. >> i see that. it's 8:00. welcome back to "cbs this morning," i'm gayle king. >> i'm charlie rose with erica hill. we'll have more of my conversation with house speaker

john boehner which took place yesterday. in the last hour we talked about mitt romney and then i talked to him about his working relationship with president obama as well as his own journey to the current position of power that he holds in washington. >> it's often said that when ronald reagan was president and tip o'neill was speaker, in your office they could get together, at the end of the day they could have a drink or have dinner. do you have dinner with the president? >> no, we don't have dinner but we've had drinks together before. we've had lots of conversation. >> it's not a problem relationship? >> oh, no. the president and i understand each other pretty well. we get along fine. it's just that we disagree. even though we disagree on major issues, the american people expect us to find enough common ground to move the ball down the field to address america's challenges. and i told the president, any time that i think that there's an idea, whether it's his idea or my idea, that would be good for our country, i'd be there to support it. >> you're a golfer.

what probe do you -- >> no mulligans, no mulligans. >> but he's not the president that wants to take a mulligan, does he? >> no, no, no, no. he and i were partners. we play by the rules. >> and how about biden and -- do they play by the rules? >> they play by the rules, too. >> have you played presidents that don't play by the rules? >> maybe. >> tell me about you finally. we have seen a man who came to politics, who was a colleague of newt gingrich and achieved something that his father and mother probably never dreamed of their son. what does it mean for you to do this? to have a chance to play a role? >> hey, it's an opportunity. and i never thought i'd have this opportunity. i thought if i could have a small business and grow my small business, i thought that was going to be my entire career. never in my wildest dreams did i think i'd be in congress, much less the speaker.

but i have no doubts that i'm doing exactly what god has in mind for me to do. >> what god has in mind? >> oh, yes. no doubt. >> how do you know that? >> the preparation i got growing up is all the tools i need to do this job. growing up in a big family, learning to get along with each other, getting things done in a big family, growing up around a bar, mopping floors, doing dishes, waiting tables, tending bar, and learning to deal with every character that walks in the door. all the skills i learned growing up. i need to do my job. >> he seems to like his job very much, charlie. >> and he should. i mean, he's had a tough time simply because he's got tea party members in congress who not in a compromising mood in the past session, but he clearly seems to have believed that he did everything he could to find some way out of the debt ceiling

crisis. but the interesting thing about where we are in this country is that we wouldn't have to visit all of these problems, a new president elected, president re-elected, all the problems are coming to bear in january, something they call a fiscal cliff. and so this country faces really monumental questions and choices come january 2013. >> and really the thinking is, but also because of the impact of what he's seen over the past year, and literally probably nothing will get done until there. it will be at the precipice of hanging over that cliff when decisions have made. >> there seems to not be much conversation between the speaker and president and he said -- >> it struck me interesting. i just have to say this for a sec. when he said, we get along fine, when you asked him, because on the surface when you look at it, it seems to be very acrimony yous. i was yourself what you thought about that. >> they have a very, very different view of the role of government, for example, and the ryan plan versus the obama plan is very, very dichtd.

but when is interesting about them is that the speaker thinks the president really made some decision there was nothing to be gained from talking to congress and went out and started campaigning for re-election. i think the president believes in a sense that he did everything he could. and there was a very interesting piece written, that in the end, when they were coming together, that the speaker in a sense could not bring his forces down. nancy pelosi told me in another interview, they were prepared to koch myself. i don't know if we'll know exactly what happened when those two powerful people came together. >> let

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in this morning's "healthwatch," a new life after transplant surgery. about 113,000 americans are now waiting for new organs and many will not live long enough to get them. >> one young patient is raising her voice, hoping to bring attention to the need for organ donors. seth doane joins us with her remrkable story, that may be putting it lightly. >> it is remarkable. she described the need for a transpla transplant excruciating that was after chairman tillman-dick was told what she loved the most could kill her. >> reporter: to an opera singer there's little more precious than a good set of lungs. just imagine these are not the lungs charity tillman-dick was

born with. in fact, before this performance, one doctor told her she'd never sing again. but here she was last fall, debuting at lincoln center, after her first double lung transplant. >> i go on stage. when i sing, it makes me so happy, because i'm sharing one of the things i value most. >> reporter: in february we scrubbed in to meet her, just a month after her second double lung transplant. hello. >> hi. >> reporter: how are you? >> i'm alive. >> reporter: you're alive. nice to meet you. the 28-year-old opera singer invited us to ohio's prestigious cleveland clinic to give us a glimpse of her recovery. >> it's called the vest. and it shakes me. so, it loosens secretions. ♪ >> reporter: charity's strength on stage seemed dwarfed by her

spirit in this hospital room. >> it makes you sound like an opera singer on crack. >> reporter: if you're singing while this taking place. >> yeah. >> reporter: since she was a little girl, charity tillman-dick has been determined to sing. but those precious lungs featured on stage began to fail her by age 20. she developed something called idiopathic pulmonary hypertension when oxygen isn't properly absorbed by the body and forces the heart to work overtime. >> my heart was three and a half times too big. eventually it usually leads to heart failure. >> reporter: in 2009 she needed an emergency transplant and got one. it worked until her body started to reject that first transplant. >> i'd go to bed at night, not sure whether i was going to wake up in the morning. >> reporter: doctors knew she needed another set of lungs soon.

but couldn't find ones that were the right size and blood type. how is the wait for a transplant? >> every time the phone rings, you hope that maybe, maybe they've found a match. >> reporter: she was placed on advanced life support and finally in late january they did find a match. >> every patient will tell you that first breath they take after their transplant when the breathing tube comes out, it's a breath they'll never forget. it's the deepest breath of their life. >> reporter: dr. marie budev is the medical director of the transplant program. will she sing again? >> she will and louder. this will be be the first person singing with a second set of lungs that aren't her own. that will be ground breaking but she will sing again. >> reporter: with eight siblings, charity has been surrounded by family all her life. their mother, annette, has enough energy to match all of them. >> i think we step back one step, we look up in the sky, we think, charity has her lungs.

she is talking. she is moving. she is -- he had is able -- and i know i feel like there is nothing else that would ever have to happen in my life to make me happy. >> organ transplantation in certain aspects brings us closer to immortality. literally, a part of us goes on living after we're gone. >> reporter: if you hadn't had this second organ transplant, could you be talking to me now? >> no, i think i would not be here. >> reporter: she's flat lined while in a five-week coma and faced death several time. but says she's no longer looking in that direction. >> we're all born and we live, we die. it's what we do in between that defines us. not when we die. it's how we live. ♪ >> beautiful voice. seth doane is here. she's got a great personality, seth doane. >> she does.

she has that humor that comes across right away. >> i loved when you walked into the hospital room and you say, how are you and she says, i'm alive. it seemed like you were in a private setting. why was she so eager to talk to you? >> she wanted to get out the word about organ transplant. she says that wait is terrifying. she says every night the phone rings you don't know if that i found a match, whether it will work. he had describes the whole process getting the transplant as being hit by a truck. it is quite a -- quite an emotional roller coaster but she wanted us to get out the word about the importance of organ transplantation. >> it does make you think, okay, sign the card. you know, it also makes you think, don't take your breathing for granted. something we do all the time. >> i asked her, do the lungs feel different? she says, they actually do feel different. the second set feels more like her original set of lungs. >> that's fascinating. truly fascinating. really great piece. thanks, seth. ee-goodsman and joo may be

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as we looked around the web this morning, we found a few reasons to make a long story short. they say fashion designer doesn't care if women are in pain. he told the magazine, quote f you can't walk in them, don't wear them. >> looking for a restaurant with great food, britain's daily mail has tips from an economist who wrote in "at the lat lantic" you should avoid places with beautiful women. why? professor cohen says those restaurants attract a lot of men and eastries cut back on quality because men just want to look at

hot women. >> according to the gallup, allergy season in the u.s. is worse than usual thanks to the warm winter, which also arrived earlier this year. more than 22% of americans reported being sick with allergies this month. beating last year's peak period in may. that's the long story short. i'm still thinking about mrmr. mr. loubiton, he should be more sensitive. not traditional performers, current show called "a little nightmare music." elaine quijano has their story. >> reporter: at new york's legendary carnegie hall, a venue with the rich tradition of boasting classical performances, two virtuosos put on a show that can only be described as nontraditional.

♪ >> reporter: has anyone's phone ever gone off during a performance? >> oh -- >> all the time. >> practically every -- >> every single time. ♪ >> reporter: ee-goodsman and his childhood friend, joo, are two classic alley trained musicians who make classical contemporary. their youtube channel has more than 28 million hits and their fans now include musical greats like the piano man himself, billy joel, who joined them on stage. ♪ she's the only one who can >> reporter: ee-goodsman and joo both fell in love with classical music as kids and as adults their show is aimed at making

others fall in love with it, too. >> because you know what some people say about classical music, that it is stuffy. >> the music itself is not stuffy at all. it's exciting, fun, crazy most of the time. >> reporter: but their on-stage antics can't hide their undeniable musical talents and commitment to their craft. ee-goodsman plays an antique violin made in the 18th century. >> we always say we don't make fun of the music. we make fun with the music. >> reporter: a passion that seems to have spread. for "cbs this morning," elaine quijano, new york. >> very cool stuff. >> i was going to say, have fun with the music. it never hurts when you're wearing deer antlers and sunglasses. >> adds a little extra pizazz. >> i like your deer antlers in your office. they look good on you. we'll find out whapsz after you die and why it is so

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morning." is it wrong to say, charlie, maybe we should take that license away from that -- >> i think that would be an appropriate -- >> game over. >> -- time to consider. $1.5 billion sounds like nothing to laugh at but that's just about how much judd apatow's funny comedies have taken in at the box office. >> hey, everyone. come and see how good i look! >> cannonball! >> oh! >> i pray to god, i just want to live! >> he's airborne. >> yep, i'm flying through the air. this is not good. >> okay. here's the deal. let me make it real simple. i'm -- >> oh. >> stop slapping yourself. i'm your life. i'm your -- oh! >> sorry. nice hit. ♪

>> oh! come on, it's so nice. do it! >> oh! >> what? >> my hip! my hip! >> oh a fire hydrant. >> that last clip is from the new movie "five year engagement" which opens at tribeca film festival tonight in new york. welcome. >> it's shocking to see that montage. when you put it all together, i was at another event and they had like a spielberg montage. it was very different from that. >> common denominator of your montage? >> seems like there's a lot of bad sex happening. a lot of people getting hit in different parts of their anatomy. >> so you know something america doesn't know or the rest of film makers don't know about billion dollar -- >> maybe spielberg doesn't have the courage to have people get hit in that area that many times.

>> you know what i think it is? in all of your movies you have a what the hell moment. even he if you're not going through that particular scene in a movie, we've all had the what the hell moment, which is universal for everybody. is that what you try to do? >> i just think life is hard. >> life is hard. >> it's fun to show it at its worst. so, you know, sometimes people say, oh, these people are so immature and making such mistakes but who wants to hang out with someone that's mature in there's no humor in like a person doing things normally. >> i hang out with a lot of people that are not mature. so, when you set out to make a movie, what are you saying to yourself, i mean, how do i create laughs or just give expression of how funny i am? >> we usually just try to have some passionate idea and then we do the jokes later. so, with "the five year engagement" they really wanted to talk about how their friends have incredibly long engagements where they break up, get back together, everything goes wrong, they doubt whether they should do it. we usually kick around a story

and then we go, well, how do we make it funny? >> story first? >> yes. when you start with jokes, you get in trouble because you're jamming story in and that never plays. >> let's talk about jason segel. i went to the screening last night. hilarious "the five year engagement" and yea son wrote it. after the movie was over, do you know the first question people had? could i just get a hug from you, jason? jason segel was here. he is one of the nicest guys i've ever met. you seem to like him in your movies, too. >> no one ever says can i get a hug? they're like, can you please stand over here? you're creeping me out. some people have a charisma. he's just a very sweet -- he's honestly that nice of a guy and a great writer. i've known him since he was 18 years old. i always thought he would be able to do something like this. and he's worked really hard and deserves it. he's just hilarious. >> what did you see? >> that's a very good question. i don't know. i kind of thought -- he's

hilarious and good looking but maybe a little too tall, which is -- looks like he might fall over there is -- he's handsome and a frankenstein quality. >> always good in a man. >> exactly. >> leslie mann, your lovely wife. >> we just finished a movie called "this is 40" about paul rudd and leslie and their family having a midlife meltdown. and ail better brooks, melissa mccarthy, john lithgow and that's coming out christmas. >> you're called one of the most southafter comedy minds. >> that means i'm working. >> i think that's a good thing. >> when did you know you were funny or when you did know you wanted to make people laugh in were you a funny kid? >> you know, i -- i don't know how funny i was. you know, i have these little books of jokes i was trying to write when i was like in fifth grade. and i thought, well, was i funny

as a kid? no. i was so unfunny. it's just like hundreds of pages of how come on gilligan's island they knew to bring so much clothes? that's as deep as it got. >> when you and will come together to do sequel to "anchorman," what's the conversation? >> we say is the charlie around? will he tell a story about his life? could we all -- >> i would go see that. i would go see that. >> i don't know. will ferrell and adam go in a room for a couple months and write something just -- >> and come out in a couple months -- >> they show it to me, luckily i get to be one of the first people to read it and we try to figure out how to have it make sense. >> i'm really interested in when comedians come together, is it all business or fun and games? >> there's definitely pressure. you always feel like, if this is bad, it's going to be really embarrassing, so you do want to make it good. but, yeah, we do have to get loose. we try to think of -- you know,

if they're sitting down to outline anchorman they'll come up with hundreds of insane ideas. then on another day they'll sit with those ideas and go, okay, now, let's pick the ones we like. >> comedy is hard. >> it is. it is hard. it's not as hard as this, what you're doing. i can't say it's harder than this. but i have to say, i watch your show on pbs every night because i love it but also it puts my 8-year-old to sleep. >> is that a compliment? >> well, now she's 9. now she's 9. so, like, we watch you -- >> i'm like a nanny. >> yeah. we watch "american idol" and then i'm so excited to watch you and she's like, daddy, put it on boring show now and here's what happens -- >> judd, you better look around -- >> but now she's 9 and now, like -- >> now she's not interested. >> now she is doesn't go to sleep. she's like why does romney want to give the reach people so much money? i'm like go to sleep. >> give her a couple more years and i'll tell you.

>> i hadn't thought of charlie rose as the nanny. you're coming back to tv. i heard you said after "freaks and geeks" you were done with television but you're coming back. >> yes. i didn't want to do television just because it hurt me so badly because all my shows get canceled immediately. >> lena star of "the girls" and wrer/director, and i thought, this will be easy because she's talented. the more talented my collaborative, the less have i to do. >> she'll be here tomorrow. >> thank you for watching and tell your daughter to start staying up. >> she's like, daddy tonight the ambassador of afghanistan is on. i'm like, great. >> so, your daughter is smarter because she's watching charlie rose. >> the smartest kid -- >> i want her to be. i'm going to train her with you. >> thanks. "the five year engagement" opens in theaters next friday. >> was that a compliment? >> it was the best compliment. >> he watches every night?

i'll take that in a moment. >> i'll take it as a compliment. many wonder what happens after death? we don't have all the answers. if you wonder what happens after death, we'll show you what happens to your

it is very important to decide who will inherit everything you leave behind but who inherits your debt after you're long gone? >> sometimes that can lead to a very nasty surprise. rebecca jarvis is here with important information for all of us. welcome. when someone passes away, who does inherit the debt? >> generally speaking the debt dies with the borrower and the estate goes towards covering whatever it can. so, let's assume, for example, and i want to put this in real teams -- let me say before we go into this, this is very important but it's important to discuss and there are a lot of

scam artists looking to take advantage of people in these grieving moments. but i want to put it into context. let's assume you pass with $10,000 of debt. that $10,000 of debt, you also - have $2,000 of savings and $2,000 in addition of assets, so that could be stocks, antiques, property. ultimately what goes towards paying off the lenders, then, is that $4,000. however, there's this remaining $6,000 that people are saying, well, what happens there? that is eaten up by the lenders. so, family is not in a position to pay it. the spouse, if there's remaining spouse, is generally speaking not in a position to pay it. so, that goes towards paying off lenders, $4,000 and whatever is remaining the family never owes it. >> is there ever a case where you are responsible for someone else's debt? i always thought you were responsible for your spouse's debt. >> there are certain cases and certain states, by the way. we should mention, there are certain states.

i'll get to those in one second. first of all, if you happen to co-sign on a loan, when you co-sign on a spouse's loan, let's say, for a home, you still owe that debt because you co-signed on it. also, if you happen to be named on a credit card, if both of your names are on a credit card and your spouse remains or if it happens to be a family credit card and the other family member remains after death, they are -- they must pay that debt off. also, there are community property states and a big one in this country is california. california is one of those places where any property acquired under the marriage becomes community. it's owned by both spouses in the marriage. it also is the case with debt that both individuals are assigned to that debt. even if you're not named on that debt. so, in those places, and you see them on the screen right now where you can inherit debt, states where even if your name isn't on the debt, will you have to pay it off if your spouse passes. >> what about something like medical costs, which for so many people, especially if this

person has passed after a long illness, those bills can be high? >> these can be particularly debilitating. what i want to make clear is the family is not legally responsible to pay the bills. let's say your mother or father, heaven forbid, passes away after a long illness, the family is not responsible for paying that off. there are some cases, however, where the spouse is responsible for paying it off. and there are cases if the spouse were to say, i will cover the costs, if you're in a hospital and your spouse is in a hospital and this can be common and the hospital bill comes to you and say, can you sign on the dotted line, to say if your dear wife or husband passes, will you cover it? if you sign on that dot the line, you must pay for it. in community states, again, under the same assumption that debt incurred during the marriage goes to both spouses, then you will be eligible or must pay for that, rather. >> you have to sign or is that -- do i throw that question to a doctor or -- >> you should talk to a doctor

and lawyer if you are faced with that question. because if it becomes a question of care and whether or not you can obtain care for your spouse, nobody wants to leave their spouse hanging. but before you sign, i would recommend -- and in all of these cases, recommend talking to an attorney because they can walk you through this and make sure scam artists who are out there in large numbers, the better business bureau gets threats and hears about this stuff all the time. they will help you sort through it. >> and after listening to you, i think i do need an attorney to sort it out. >> you should. >> thank you, rebecca. come miic book artist david devries says he gets some of his best ideas from the kids.

almost every kid goes through that phrase where they're afraid of the monsters under the bed or in the closet? what if the monster is hanging on the wall? >> dave devries paints monsters. lots of creepy, crawly monsters and he does it by tapping into his inner child and the creativity of children. >> reporter: you could call dave devries the piped piper of paint because when he puts on a clinic, kids go crazy. and it's not just that he's produced some of the world's most famous super heroes for marvel and dc comics, it's because he makes children's art come alive. so, you're basically taking a child's idea and you're just kind of popping into their mind for a second and then transforming it into something else. >> their minds are so much

different than ours. they don't have kind of the critical judgment that we do. like, we'll sit down and start doing a project and we're like, oh, that's not going to work. that's not going to work. they just do it. and there's something really powerful about that. >> reporter: he calls his project the monster engine and the concept is simple. a kid draws a monster. devries takes that drawing and paints it with ghoulish realism. the results, stunning. the idea first came to him by accident when he brought his sketch book on a family beach vacation. >> when i came out of the ocean i saw my 6-year-old niece jessica drawing in the sketch book. you've got to understand about kids, they don't draw. they carve. >> reporter: of course. >> i mean, just -- and i was just like, no, no, no! and that's where the idea started. >> reporter: that was 14 years ago. since then the monster engine has become a book, a website, a growing collection of drawings and paintings. what is it about these drawings

that fascinate people? >> people tell me that it's about going back to their childhood. they're looking at something that they used to do and they're seeing it the way that an adult illustrator could render it. it's a connection between those two worlds, adult and child. >> reporter: you're into the weird and dark? >> since the time i was a little kid. i like things that are odd, weird, absurd. i've always been like that. up here there's a lot of stuff -- >> reporter: as you you might expect, his studio is homage to childhood, go his wife michelle, an interior designer takes in stride. >> this is so not strange to me. that i sometimes forget like average people, this would be really weird, but i -- i'm comforted. i actually like it. >> reporter: not everyone likes the monster engine.

some critics say it sends a terrible message to kids, that their work alone isn't good enough. >> what i found is the complete opposite. the drawing themselves are the basis for the painting and they realize that. the kids know that i could do the painting without their drawing, so they're an important part of the process. you can pick any color you want. >> reporter: he believes he's inspiring children. >> one kid walked up to me and he said, i wish you were my father!o cf1 o >> reporter: as proof he showed me the pile of thank you letters and monster drawing he received after visiting a school in march. the kids inspire him, too, and help him to continue to see the world through young eyes. >> you can't erase being an adult up. just can't. and i think that there is something lost when you get to, say, about 12, 13 years old. that perception. it's really hard -- i've worked hard to try to maintain it but you'll never see it like that

again. >> gang, here's my question. my question is, so what is it about -- what would a child psychologist say about what it is that makes kids so fascinated by this? what's the appeal? >> well, just take a look at their minds. their imagination. i mean, every child thinks they've seen a monster in the closet or under the bed or something like that. i mean, their imagination runs wild. these paintings, he's building on that. but i have a surprise. i'm going to change the subject for a second. >> that's my son's name on that picture. >> yeah, your son weston, he did that. in fact, our man dave -- >> you're kidding! >> -- put this together for you. your son is 5 years old -- >> oh, you're so great. thank you, thank you, thank you. >> you can't thank me. this was our producer, conspiracy with your husband. >> you guys are -- >> and the artist dave together. i don't know how much weston knew what was going on, but

look, he has go to hang on his wall in the bedroom. there you go. >> it could be in your house