good morning. it is monday, april 23, 2012. welcome to studio 57 at the cbs broadcast center. i'm charlie rose. george zimmerman walks out of jail overnight, free on bail. we'll ask his attorney how he plans to keeping him safe. >> i'm erica hill. the secret service sex scandal widens as another agent is put on leave. we'll talk with bob woodward about how the white house should handle this embarrassing episode. i'm gayle king. when i see you at 8:00 we'll reveal the 2012 teacher of the year. studio 57 is packed this morning. dan marino, anna quindlen, jermmy irons all here today.

we start with your world in 90 with today's "eye opener". george zimmerman walks free from a florida jail. >> the man who admits he shot and killed trayvon martin was set free on $150,000 bond. >> zimmerman's whereabouts are keeping a closely guarded secret. >> we have a lot of concerns over security for him and the family as well. >> winter storm warnings from west virginia up towards buffalo. >> a late season storm slams the northeast. >> likely 12 to 18 inches of snow into the alleghenys. >> flood watch have been posted from delaware to maine. >> we could see widespread power outages. >> that's why i'm shopping. i'll watch it from the window. >> the latest agent to be singled out. >> brought a woman back to the hilton. >> now you're into the hotel where the president of the united states was going to stay. it just gets more troubling. >> for eight years of standings outside clinton's door, you'd be

horny, too. >> john edwards is scheduled to go on trial today in north carolina. he's accused of taking nearly a million dollars in illegal campaign contributions. >> search is on for a first grader who vanished from her home in tucson. she was last seen in her bed friday night. >> a drag race in tennessee. starts out well enough before it goes completely and dangerously wrong. >> all that -- >> oh, that's disgraceful. >> that's not only an ejections, that's going to be a suspension. >> and all that matters. >> a bizarre incident with a man who open fire on a policeman. my goodness. >> he's wearing a night shirt. ebenezer scrooge style. >> on "cbs this morning." >> governor christie says he did not fall asleep during a springsteen concert. >> i put my head back to listen to the song. when i was like fist pumping during badlands, i'm glad no one took pictures of that. during badlands, i'm glad no one took pictures of that. ♪

captioning funded by cbs welcome to "cbs this morning." officials in florida say george zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer, who shot trayvon martin to death, will be carefully tracked wherever he goes. >> we want to check in with mark strassmann outside the courthouse in sanford, florida, with latest for us. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, erica. around midnight george zimmerman walked out of the jail behind me what looked like a bullet proof vest under his brown jacket. he got into a white car and headed for the most safe and secret place he could find. for 12 days george zimmerman has woken up in seminole county jail in sanford, florida. early this morning he was released after posting a $150,000 bond and being fitted with a gps monitoring device. to make bail, zimmerman had to

put up 10% or $15,000 of the bond. money his father said might only be raised through a second mortgage. under the items of his bail, zimmerman surrendered his passport, must observe a strict curfew and cannot use a firearm. and leaving prison he also gives up protection of the armed state agents that guard him when he arrived and will now be responsible for his own safety. >> we have a lot of concerns over security, around the family as well. >> reporter: on friday zimmerman surprised a packed courtroom, including trayvon martin's parents, when he made this apology. >> i wanted to say i am sorry for the loss of your son. i did not know how old he was. i thought he was a little bit younger than i am. and i did not know if he was armed or not. >> it was very hard for them being in that courtroom and for him to do what he did. >> reporter: benjamin crump represents martin's parents pep calls the apology insincere. >> the apology was somewhat of a surprise because we told them

this was not the appropriate time but they just disregarded that and he went and panned it to the court and media and gave very insincere apology. >> reporter: zimmerman is now so recognizable, he's almost certainly headed someplace out of state. his gps tracking device will follow his whereabouts in real time anywhere within the u.s. charlie and air kashgs he has to check in with authorities every three days. >> thank you. from orlando, florida, mark o'mara, george zimmerman's attorney. good morning. >> good morning. >> can you tell us the level of threat against mr. zimmerman? and how you plan to -- and how he plans to protect himself from that. >> well, we have not had any active threats recently. and everything that we do get is given to orange county sheriff's office, seminole county, and also opd just because of where this is. but the concern is that there is ground swelling of opposition to mr. zimmerman's position, or

what they believe his position to be, that we're concerned about him. >> do you feel it's necessary to go further in the apology because of family of trayvon martin said it was too late? >> well, the problem is that, as i mentioned, we reached out to see if we could do it privately. i guess my concern is i didn't realize the way they had responded to me was through a press conference where they said it was too late or not an appropriate time.& to be honest, had i known that, maybe had i seen the press conference, i'm not sure we would have done it at the hearing because the purpose was truly to get to the family and to respond directly to the family's request. had i known or been told that that wasn't the time, it wouldn't have happened. so, i apologize for that, but it wasn't necessary to get a bond. it is not usual that you have somebody get up at all in a bond hearing. we wouldn't have done it in this case. >> you are you saying -- is

there a chance you would try to go back to them or have george zimmerman go back to them in a private way at this point? >> now i'm going to leave it up to how the family wants to handle it. we wanted it to be private. it wasn't well communicated this wasn't the time. i'm sure just an oversight. we're all quite busy. but if the family believes appropriate, i'm open to shows suggestions. >> can you tell us more about the photo of mr. zimmerman's head that we have seen. >> you've seen it. i've now seen it. i still don't have discovery but i think it's very compelling to support that there was an altercation. but beyond that, without the discovery, it's hard to see where that one piece fits in. >> mark o'mara, thank you very much. >> sure. a massive storm is springing

spinning over the northeast. the worst of that rain has fallen from the carolinas all the way up through to canada. some areas of the storm's western edge are seeing a healthy dose of heavy, wet snow. seth doane is in one of those places, johnstown, pennsylvania, this morning. seth, good morning. >> reporter: that's right, good morning, erica. there are already several inches of snow on the ground here in parts of johnstown and more, much more expected throughout the day. upwards of a foot of snow predicted in this region. that's creating a snow day, a very unusual late april snow day, as there are a number of school closings across the region. that means fewer school buses on the road, but also in some cases, fewer plows. you had such a mild winter and mild spring, people took plows off their trucks. they're putting them back on trcks today in parts of western pennsylvania, also ohio and parts of western new york in areas like buffalo, they're expected to see many inches of snow today. further east, the real problem

in this storm is rain, flooding, localized flooding, trapped some motorists in jersey city. they needed tow trucks to get free of that localized flooding. it's likely to be a messy, soggy wet commute up and down the eastern seaboard today. here temperatures are hovering around freezing, which means it's a very dense, wet snow and really sticking to the trees and branches, creating concerns for widespread power outages. back to you folks. >> just what you want on april 23rd. thanks. "cbs this morning: saturday" weather anchor lonnie quinn is tracking the nor'easter for us. >> good morning. let's take a look at the storm on the satellite and radar picture. i want you to know this much, come tomorrow at lunchtime, whoever is being affected by the storm, it will be out of here. as of now, this is the snow. anywhere from portions of western new york through western pennsylvania into portions of west virginia. if we can zoom in and show you

how much snow we're expecting out of this, it looks like the center swath will see over half a foot. zoom in tighter. between buffalo and erie it looks like portions will see about 14 inches of notice. you heard from seth, the probability of power lines coming down because those tree limbs will snap, heavy wet snow, with all those leaves, they hold an extra heavy amount of snow and consequently the wind will be snapping it, rain as well. some portions picking up over 3 inches. over to you guys. >> lonnie, thanks. now more than a week since a secret service sex scandal in colombia exploded into public view. as bill plante reports from the white house, the scandal doesn't seem to be going anywhere. bill, good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, charlie. as this investigation enters its second week, 6 of the 12 secret service agents have resigned or been fired, and this morning there's word of another agent who has taken a prostitute to a sensitive location. >> it just gets more troubling.

>> reporter: five nights before the president's arrival, a 12th secret service official who was not previously under investigation brought a prostitute to the hilton hotel in cartagena. the hotel where the president later stayed. white house staff, the press and the other 21 secret service officials and members of the military implicated in the scandal stayed here at the hotel caribe. there are now six secret service personnel who have left their jobs in the wake of the incident. four have chosen to resign. the other two are supervisors. david cheney has retired, greg stokes has been fired but has a chance to appeal. >> the key thing is not that they were prostitutes. the fact that foreign nationals were brought back into a security area on the eve of the trip of the president of the united states goes against everything the secret service stands for. >> reporter: two senators, including joseph lieberman who has oversight of the secret service, are asking the white house to make sure no administration staffers on the colombia trip are involved. >> anybody the white house was

involved, i would say they ought to be launching their own internal review of all white house personnel. >> reporter: but for some on capitol hill, questions remain about a cultural problem in the secret service, where only 11% of the agents are women. >> i can't help but wonder if there had been more women as part of that detail, if this ever would have happened. >> reporter: now, the woman whose complaint about money started all this is now represented by a lawyer. who is offering to negotiate interviews with her for money. but get this, our reporter in cartagena says the lawyer himself wants cash just to talk about an interview. so far, we don't know if there have been any takers. charlie, erica. now with us, bob woodward of "the washington post" who has covered scandals going back to watergate. good morning. >> good morning. >> you wrote about the president. how is he handling this and is there any political fallout? >> not yet. but the question is, how do you

inject discipline and accountability into something like this? you talk to people in the secret service, as i have, what confounds them is there are so many people involved in this. you know, and that clearly is the case. so, who else knew, was this a functioning institution. if you look at how bob gates, the secretary of defense for president obama and president bush, when gates had something like this, like the scandal at walter reed, he fired the head of the army. when the air force lost control of some nuclear weapons in a minor way, out was the chief of staff of the air force and the secretary of the air force. so, sometimes you just have to step in and say, leadership requires accountability. >> so the president needs to fire mr. sullivan? in order to -- >> you know, it would be the secretary of the treasury. i'm not saying that they should,

but, you know, this is not just a little thing. you and i were recalling, it was the day reagan was shot 30-plus years ago. you and i were having lunch,mying the story. it turns out the story was the secret service agents saved ronald reagan's life. that was in 1981, if they had not -- you know, history would have changed in a way we can't even comprehend. >> and you can understand how the president's sensitive to the fact these are the people who are willing to take a bullet for him. >> sure. what you know, i know some secret service people, they can be on duty, you know, 20, 30 years and never have that moment of testing. but that moment of testing when you have to take a bullet or think like the agents did involving ronald reagan, taking him to the hospital instead of

the white house, probably saving his life. those agents can't be out at the local house of ill repute the night or several nights before. >> there's also, bob, the question of the gsa spending spree in las vegas which is under investigation. there's been some talk about how both this scandal and the scandal with the secret service, how much responsibility actually does fall to the president with either one? how much responsibility is there within the administration? >> well, the president's ultimately responsible. the question is, does he establish a system of rigid accountability with the cabinet officials or the other agency heads who are responsible here. you just don't know. this is going to -- particularly secret service investigation, you know, your reporter was talking about is there a culture

of acting like sailors in a foreign port in the secret service. people deny it, but clearly something was not -- somebody was not watching the store. when that happens in government, the people who are in charge have to step in and say, accountability, you're out. >> bob, i want to turn to the economy and the president with the economy, which will be a clear and major issue, if not the biggest issue in the campaign. there is discussion as to who was at fault for not having and not succeeded in a grand bargain. here is what john boehner said to me in an interview last week. >> the president knows that we have an agreement. and they can try to peddle the story any way they want. we had an agreement. until the president decided to violate the agreement and ask

for $400 billion in higher taxes. it wasn't about my members, it wasn't about the votes. i was willing to risk my speakership to make this happen because i thought it was the right thing for the country. and i would do -- and i would go to the table and go at this again because america cannot continue to go down this path of this spiraling debt crisis that -- it's almost like a wet blanket hanging over the economy. >> now, there's the speaker of the house of representatives. tell me how you see this and how this emerging issue of the economy will play out and whether the president is right or is the speaker right in terms of the failure to have washington do something constructive about the economy. >> well, first of all, the speaker's right, that this is a wet blanket hanging over they haven't fixed it. and i'm writing a book about president obama and his management of the economy. and i have the luxury of time to

dig in and try to find out exactly what happened. i think the bottom line and the impact here is, as the speaker has said, as the president knows, we're on a spending spree and at the end of the year, taxes are going to go up for everyone, taking money out of the economy. it's something that has not been repaired. look at europe, look at what's going on in the global economy. it is very fragile. and this can go off a cliff in a moment. >> let me finally turn to the news of the death of chuck co coleson, was central to watergate and then had a different life after that. >> remember him for us. coulson was one of nixon's hatchet men. you know, he was the most

aggressive in doing lots of these things. at the same time when coulson went to prison, he experienced, i think, a really genuine conversion and devoted himself to prisoners and prison reform. in a way you can't question because you talk to people in the prison reform movement and chuck coulson is a god. and so we have the two sides of this man, the guy who said and acted like he would walk over his grandmother to get nixon re-elected. but somebody devoting decades to

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♪ walking on a high wire >> this coming to us from china. american dean potter walking on a wire. it's 2,000 feet above the ground. he walked 44 yards across the canyon yesterday. understandably pretty happy to make it to the other side. welcome back to "cbs this morning." i don't know. looks like moments there were questionable. the trial of john edwards has three main elements -- sex, politics and money. so you can understand why it's getting a lot of attention. opening statement expected today as erin moriarty reports, the stakes are very high. >> reporter: john edwards' affair with rye yell hunter while his wife was dying of cancer brought down a once

promising political career, but will it also send him to prison? it's far from an open and shut case. >> this trial asking the question, where does the system to a candidate's personal life end and a contribution to their political campaign begin? >> reporter: edwards is accused of conspireing to receive nearly $1 million from two wealthy donors to conceal his affair. money that went to keep rielle hunter stashed away in luxury hotels and ferried across the country in private jets. hundreds of thousands kept in a secret bank account. but none of that money ever went directly into campaign coffers. >> when i teach campaign in election law, i talk about the typical corruption cases where essentially an office holder or candidate is selling something. none of that is what has happened here. >> reporter: campaign finance rules have never been applied in a case like this. legal experts say perhaps that's why edwards actually rejected a

plea deal that would have called for a few months in prison, but allowed him to keep his law license. he preferred to put his fate in the hands of the jury instead. >> after all these years, i finally get my day in court. >> reporter: another challenge for the prosecution. their star witness, andrew young, has a credibility problem. a former edwards aide, he handled and used some of that cash. at one point he claimed he was the father of hunter's baby. the defense will go after him very aggressively. but with a very unpopular client. they face an uphill climb of their own. >> one of the challenges for the defense will be to keep the jury focused on the law here and not have this turn into a referendum on mr. edwards' popularity. >> reporter: for his part, he seems keenly aware of that challenge. >> i will regret for the rest of my life the pain and the harm that i caused to others.

but i did not break the law. >> reporter: but if a jury disagrees, edwards could face a maximum fine of $1.5 million and as much as 30 years in prison. >> erin moriarty is with us along with jack ford. welcome. >> good morning. >> there is this about this case, some discussion as to whether it should have been brought in the first place. >> and i think there's a good question about that. there has never been a case quite like this with these kind of facts. no money went directly to john edwards. no money went directy to the campaign. they're going to argue these are gifts and what it was used for was not a campaign expense. this was hiding a girlfriend that he might have needed, whether or not he was running for president. >> despite that the prosecution wanted to go ahead. >> especially in a high profile case like this, if you're a prosecutor, usually, you're not going to go ahead unless you think you can win, it but it's

an unusual type of case. classic campaign fraud is that i own a business, i have ten employees, i want to give more money to my candidate than the law allows me, so i say, look, each of you write a check for $1,000. next week there will be $1,000 in your paycheck as a bonus that's classic fraud. here the defense is saying, look, this might be sort of a despicable guy who did a despicable thing and a tawdry, soap operaish way. but they're saying they were friends and trying to protect him from the embarrassment and humiliation but prosecution says because you want him to be president of the united states. therefore, prosecution claims, that money was paid to help him in his campaign. by sort of doing away with the humiliation. it's a novel theory. a very interesting theory. but it's going to be tested. if he was to be convicted, i'm sure an appellate court would want to take a long, hard look at this because it is such a novel case. >> because of all these questions, is that -- you think

the main reason behind why he said no to a plea agreement or is there more to it than that? >> i think that had a lot to do with it. jack as even said before, a lot of people feel even if he's convicted, it will be overturned on appeal. he'll never spend a day in prison. his plea deal would have meant that he spent five months in prison. so, i think -- i just don't think he wanted to admit he has done anything wrong. >> if i'm his lawyer, i say look, you have a good chance of winning this on atrial, on appeal. you can never be sure. if you're wrong, will you go to jail. he'll do five months on a plea deal, and, you know, you're not looking at 30 years. maybe another five months -- >> no, he was going to be able to keep his law license. >> which is part of the deal. you can see why they're saying we feel we're almost playing with house money. let's roll the dice and see what happens. >> what do we know about his relationship and the attitude of the family? >> in may be the only upside so this trial. from what i understand, the

family is actually united behind him on this particular issue. and if you've seen any of the video, you know, his daughter kate, a lawyer, has been by his side. she's on the defense witness list and will testify. what i find very telling is that she's not out front saying, my dad's innocent, this is a vindictive prosecution, which i believe is what the family really feels. so, i think there is still some push and pull. i've also heard the family had mixed feelings about him going to trial on this because you know the facts that are going to come out, the details that are going to come out. >> you think john edwards will take the stand? >> you know, ordinarily -- typically most defendants don't take the stand but in in case, nobody is arguing about the facts. it's what was in his mind at the time. i would be surprised if he doesn't take the stand because also who he is and his feeling he made a fortune, made a living in the courtroom, he's thinking he's the best lawyer in the courtroom. so, i think -- >> it's a convincing case?

>> yeah, i'd be surprised if he doesn't take the stand. >> it's really interesting. everyone who knows him says he'll probably take the stand. >> it's also interesting because two of the principle witnesses who can speak to this are not going to be there. one is too old, the other is dead. >> that's something for a defense. usually the defense tries to kick holes in what the prosecution is doing. sometimes you have a real defense you want to get out there, which they would have here if they had these two people still around. one has passed away, one is too infirmed to testify. you would like them to get on the stand and say, look, this was not a big-time political deal. we were trying to help out a friend. so, for the defense not to have them there, it ham trings them a little bit. >> what helps the defense is the fact this key witness against john edwards has real credibility problems, andrew young. the defense is going to say, well, we're talking about a million dollars that john edwards -- that andrew young took $1.2 million of that and spent it himself. so, he's going to be on the witness stand all week. >> he has credibility questions? >> oh, yes, serious credibility

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you think about what caused this. of course, that secret service agent, he thought he was paying $30 and it turned out the prostitute wanted $800. which sound like a lot, but in her defense, she said she is paying a higher tax rate than mitt romney. in today's "healthwatch," a carmageddon baby boom. some believe it's happening right now in los angeles. nine months after construction shut down the busy 405 freeway for a busy weekend. >> residence were warned to stay home and off the roads. bill whitaker reports, it looks like they listened. >> reporter: it was one of those only in l.a. kind of stories. >> carmageddon. >> avoid the area. or just stay home. >> reporter: carmageddon. when bridge repairs forced a shutdown of the busy freewayses in this city, fear, anxiety and height shifted into overdrive.

visions of 60-mile traffic jams and automotive apocalypse that wasn't. scared out of their witts and scars, they stapled home. it was a bust. that seems to have spawned a boom, a mini baby boom. they've seen it at the push station where new moms come for breast-feeding tips. >> people stayed home for a relaxation and there you go. >> reporter: at providence medical center in tarzana, not far from the 405, dr. joie russo usually delivers eight to ten babies a month. >> i've probably done eight deliveries in the last two weeks, so much so that i wasn't able to go on any type of vacation. in a 30-minute period, including me, there were five deliveries done at once. >> reporter: what's up? she suspects the culprit is

carmageddon, but her patients natasha and brian mills know it was. >> we holed up in the house and sat by the fire and hung out with each other. >> and the rest -- i don't have to say. >> reporter: for now, it's anecdotal. the city statisticians won't know until they tally the numbers in a couple weeks. perhaps the best known catastrophe related baby boom following the new york city black outin 1965 turned out to be an urban myth, but what some call myths, others call miracle. there's a freeway on the wall of newborn nursery. >> highway to heavy. >> yes, that's right. >> reporter: his parents, michelle, busy with stressful jobs, tried for years to conceive. carmageddon forced them to slow down. >> for us just to sit still. >> there was nothing to do, you know, and you just -- >> reporter: well, something to do. >> well, right. >> telling everybody to take it

easy, seems like everybody was getting busy. >> yes, absolutely. yep. >> even thinking about naming him -- his middle name chevy but we're going to pass on that. >> reporter: l.a. plans to shut down the freeway for more repairs again this year. >> maybe we'll make him a sister prius. >> reporter: and perhaps a new batch of parents will say -- >> thank you to the city of los angeles and -- >> and the mayor. >> -- and to mayor and caltrans and all of you guys. you brought amare into the world. >> reporter: for "cbs this morning," i'm bill whitaker in los angeles. >> a bunch of people who don't hear thank you from commuters. great story. we'll meet the president tomorrow, but first teacher of year is joining us. stay with us. you're watching "cbs this morning."

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peace to you? last night the lakers' metta world peace, whacked james harden right there in the head. there you see it again. world peace is thrown out of the game, could be suspended. welcome back to "cbs this morning." you said you watched that last night? >> it was amazing to see it. i mean, it was so -- >> yeah, not missing -- >> when he went down, you said, oh, my god. how injured is he going to be? anyway, gayle king has a look at what's coming up in the next hour. >> i'm thinking he needs time in the time-out corner. i saw it, too. hello, it's been 33 years since etan patz went miller. john miller will bring us up to date on the new developments. anna quindlen is here to talk about her new memoir. lots of candles, plenty of cake. what does she think about no one winning the pulitzer for fiction? dan marino andiermy irons will both be in studio 57.

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it's 8:00. it is 8:00. welcome back to "cbs this morning." i'm gayle king. >> i'm charlie rose with erica hill. police investigating a first grader's disappearance in tucson, arizona, say there is evidence that someone may have broken into her home and taken her. >> as ben tracy reports, the search is now 48 hours old and there is still no sign of the missing girl. >> reporter: an entire block in in tucson neighborhood has been blocked off. more than 150 law enforcement officers are systematically searching for missing 6-year-old isabel mercedes celis. >> officers are conducting a good search. we have bloodhounds that are checking the area as well, picking up any scent of the little girl. >> reporter: her parents say she

was last seen friday night when they put her to bed. when they went to wake her up saturday morning, she was gone. the uncle says the girl's parents are distraught. >> you're angry, upset, frustrated, confused. >> reporter: early this morning investigators and urban search dogs scoured the celis family home for clues, finding evidence of a possible break-in. >> the amount of leads coming in. we have ample amount of investigators looking into those leads and they'll all be looked into thoroughly. >> reporter: the family fears isabel may have been abducted like isabel smart. she was found alive nine months later. in 1993 12-year-old polly klaas was abducted at a slumber party in her house. she was later found dead. in tucson the family has asked the church for isabel's safe return. >> we need her home safe, safe and sound. we like to hope that she just went for a walk and is going to come back unharmed.

>> reporter: for "cbs this morning," ben tracy, los angeles. >> john miller is with us now. good morning. >> good morning. this is one of those cases that is very unusual. you look at the elizabeth smart case or the polly klaas case. lots of children disappear from home. those investigations usually find some family involvement. in this case and in those cases in particular, what you saw was sometimes it really does happen this way. the fbi will bring their case like this, they'll bring in the card team, the child abduction rapid deployment task force. these teams are positioned at different places around the country. they can bring immediate resources within those first 24 to 48 hours. that's the critical time. investigators, evidence response team, tech nices, fbi profilers who can look at various suspects and say, i would start with this one and move on to that one, negotiators who if there is a

call for ransom can coach the family through what to say and what not to say on those calls. so, that's what's going on behind the scenes in a case like that. the other thing they'll do is, in the beginning of a case like this, particularly in a smaller area where a lot of leads are coming in very quickly, those leads can get lost. so, they bring in tools like orion, a case management tool which computerizes every lead, puts it in a database and can match things when similar things come in more than once. >> you mentioned the elizabeth smart case. do you think techniques have changed since elizabeth smart, how they respond or handle it, those types of investigations? >> one key thing that changed from elizabeth smart is the idea this kind of thing just doesn't happen, where somebody breaks into a home and steals a child and nobody hears it or sees it. i mean, it was an eye-opener for a lot of investigators. one of the things they developed are things like the orion system, the c.a.r.d. team, the

fact they can descend on it with exactly the experts they need. >> i want to talk to you about etan patz. things continuing over the weekend. there's been stain reportedly found, some speculation it may be blood. what happens right now? >> so, in that case they -- they've excavated most of the floor. a small section left to be completed. i would estimate that that investigation -- the evidence search down there will probably wrap up by the end of today, as late as tomorrow. they've taken out things they found, hair, pieces of paper, the mysterious stain that was found in the wall. they're sending all of that to the fbi laboratory in quantico and see if it has any connection to the case. but absent that, i think you'll see -- absent some discovery with the last section of the floor, i think you'll see that winding down. >> how long does it take to get those results? >> well, it depends on which piece of evidence and the kinds of tests, but i think within three weeks they'll have

everything back that they want and preliminary sooner than that. >> i was reading the other day that back then it would have cost $1,000 to dig up the floor. i know you covered this story way back then. at the time did you think it was unusual, hey, shouldn't we dig up that concrete floor at the time? >> well, at the time there were a couple of factors involved. one, the patz family knew of othneil miller, he was a friend of the family and he didn't say dig up the floor, he said go ahead. on the other hand, there were other hotter leads, particularly a taxi driver who said a man had gotten into his taxi with etan. that lead was later run out and looked at as probably wrong. but on the list of things that needed to be pursued right then, the othneil miller lead was back of the book. >> thank you very much.

the national teacher of the year will be honored at the white house tomorrow. we'll meet the lucky and deserving winner in a sec. a texas mom goes a little overboard, some say, to help her daughter win a very important honor. we'll make that a "long story short." you're watching "cbs this morning." [ telephone ringing ]

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watch out for that car. look at this. video from a drag race in bristol, tennessee, the driver lost control, went airborne, wipes out on camera. there it is again. we're told everyone's all right. welcome back to "cbs this morning." >> best of all, everyone's okay.

so, we looked around the web we found a few reasons to make "a long story short" newser.com says a virginia high school teacher has been arrested for an unusual bit of discipline. he was trying to get his class to pay attention so what does he do? he lines students up against a ga rar door, fired a handgun loaded with blanks. >> huh-uh. >> huh-uh is right. he's been suspended but not fired. >> no. no. the new york post says a texas mom wanted her daughter to be prom queen so she rented a campaign billboard outside her high school. she was teased. about it and didn't win. apparently the color red means anything but stop. the new york daily news reports on a french study. men believe women in red outfits are signaling women will have sex on the first date. nope. and thnothing about girls who wr

gray or purple. >> don't know. >> they say they're nice and smart. >> that's exactly what they say, gayle. fine conversationalist. daily mail reports a virginia woman won the lottery twice on the same day. virginia bought two power ball tickets this month. both had five winning numbers worth $5 million. she bought the second by mistake but she took it by mistake, and she said, if i win, i win twice. what are the odds? apparently the odds are in your favor. entertainment weekly says "think like a man" knocked off "the hunger games" after it dominated the box office for four weeks. "think like a man" is based on steve harvey's best selling book. he was here. the movie took in $33 million this weekend, much more than expected. that's "long story short." you know what makes this even sweeter is that it it was on 1,000 less screens than "hunger game" and "the lucky one," which

came in second. so on 1,000 less screens it came in first at $33 million. that's huge. >> congratulations. we like harvey that. i like the simon and garfunkel choice whoever is choosing music. the teacher of the year is here with us in studio 57. she's in the green room for her first interview, next to dan marino. she'll meet the president tomorrow, dan marino this morning. chili's lunch break combos are full of delicious choices, starting at just 6 bucks. choose from savory favorites or our new philly cheesesteak sandwich. layers of shaved steak and grilled peppers served with fries and a tasty soup or salad. chili's lunch break combos. ♪ ♪ ♪

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how important are great teachers? last month council on foreign relations called failing public schools a grave, national security threat. >> tomorrow at the white house president obama will honor the 2012 national teacher of the year. this morning we're pleased to

announce who it is, rebecca mieliwocki from burbank, california. congratulations and good morning. >> thank you very, very much. an exciting time. >> really congratulations. you were talking about the flight you took in from d.c. yesterday, which was so bumpy. >> so bumpy. i didn't think we would make it. i was with the gal that traveled with me who just got engaged. i thought, if we go down, this is going to be the best lifetime for television -- lifetime for women television movie ever. i thought, it's going to be the saddest one ever. i don't think this can happen. but it was scary. >> i'm glad you made it. even when you talked to the pilot, he said, that was fun. no, it wasn't. i'm glad you're here and congratulations. >> thank you. >> what do you know about teaching that other people don't? the president said, she's the one, she's good. what makes you so good? >> well, i think i have just a positive thuirst for my job. i love kids. i'm happy to be there every day.

so many people get up on mondays, gruchy about what they have to do about work. teachers get up and we're excited about what we get to do when we get to work. kids deserve the best engaged teachers. and i love kids and the great things they bring to my classroom. >> a of teachers ko say, i love kids, my job. there must be something different you do and i'm trying to figure out what that is. >> it's important for me to stay relevant, make my lessons relevant to kids' live. my number one job is to educate them and give them the skills they need to be successful in any kind of global careers they have planned for themselves. i teach seventh graders so, you know, my responsibilities with them are a little different than a high school teacher, but underneath all of the engaging strategies, being creative, being lively, being a modern teacher is the understanding that i have to build skills with these kids. so, i'm a firm believer in accountability, making sure i do my job with kids. >> one of the --

>> sorry. >> no, no, no. i'm sorry for interrupting. one of the big questions, though, is how do we, a, reward teachers, and, b, how do we judge teachers? some suggest you judge teachers by the performance of their students. that fair? >> well, in terms of how we reward teachers, no teacher goes into teaching for the money. that's ouk. that's not why we're there. we're in there for the outcomes we get from kids and because of the work we do changes lives. not many people can say at the end of the day they've really made a difference in someone's life and their future. so, that's the reward. and if you paid me a million dollars or the salary i get, the job is no less difficult. so, i'm not sure money is the reward. but one of the things you could do for me is if i'm a master teacher, if i have incredible skills, put me in a position of leadership, put me in a place where i can impact other teachers and help train them and guide them to the same kinds of successes i'm experiencing. so responsibility, giving teachers responsibility is a thing we could do. as far as measuring teachers? i need -- i want to be

evaluated. i need to know how good i'm doing so that i can get better. every teacher i know is on a quest to get better. so do that i need to look at, how am i doing right now? i want to look, how are my kids doing on state assessments, socially and emotionally, how are they able to communicated in the modern world, how am i handling them morally, their character, all of these things need to be looked at as well as how do i contribute to my school and community? how do i reach out to parents and pull them? >> there's a lot more that comes with teachers than used to. when you talk about seventh grade, middle school -- >> they all say that. >> but, i know, plenty of people -- my mom included -- who worked in a middle school saying, this is an incredible age. what makes seventh graders so great. >> i taught high school but now i'm at the middle school. i feel for the first time i was really breathing air. i met kids right at the same sort of emotional exciting moment where i am. i think deep down inside i'm 12

years old. i laugh at the same jokes they laugh at. i love the same silly things they love. i understand where they're at emotionally. it's a difficult time, middle school. we need to love them and understand the roller coaster they're on and doesn't phase them and it's about channelling that incredible energy we have in the work we have to do together. >> so, how did you find out you had gotten the call, the president had chosen you? were you sitting at home, your phone rings -- >> i've had several of those moments at home in my sweats grading papers at night and the phone rings and you look around the house going, is this happening? i got the word in my classroom. i was grading papers one afternoon about 4:00 on a friday and i got the phone call. it's cute how they tell you. they said, we're so pleased and honored to announce that you are, first, final list for national teacher of the year and then the other call said, we're excited to tell you that you are the one.

and i couldn't believe it. >> united states is falling behind in terms of public education. is it because they don't have enough good teachers like you or something else? >> i think so that addition there are 3 million teachers in america educating at least three times as many students in areas across this nation that are incredibly affluent and some neighbors in the grips of poverty. every one of those teachers is doing the hard work of trying to educate kids. but technology changes day by day. information and history changes day by day. we don't necessarily have the funding to keep up with all the things we need to do to give children a the right education. in my state of california, funding has been cut to such a degree it's a real challenge to stay strong. that's what we need to work on. >> great to meet.

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could that be miami? i think it is. welcome back to "cbs this morning." in honor of our guest today, hall of fame quarterback, that would be dan maroon noticino. he's become known for his work off the field. >> cbs sports analyst who turned 50 last year is now working with the aarp as its new men's life

ambassador. mr. ambassador, welcome. >> thank you, charlie. >> we want to talk a lot of football but tell us what you do as ambassador. >> basically, put the message out there for people turning 50 or before 50 as far as their lifestyle and things they want to achieve and challenges in their life. i'm going to be contributing to the website as far as articles are concerned, some videos. basically, just have fun with it and create awareness. you know, when you turn 50, there's new challenges and things you can do. it's not the end. >> it should be exciting, right, dan? because let me say this to you, when i turned 50 seven years ago i got literature from the aarp sending all this stuff. i said, please take me off your list. i'm not ready for the blue plate specials. i don't want to be involved. cut to now, last week, a couple weeks ago,dy an interview with aarp saying, yes, i'm glad, i'm glad. did you have any hangups turning 50? >> a little bit. but, you know, when you look at, it you can't look -- it's 50 but new challenges in life, things

you want to achieve. some people start to retire at that age. when you think about, it you know, there's a lot of life ahead of you, a lot of things you can accomplish. and it's not really that -- like you talk about the blue plate specials and all that. >> i know, i know. >> there's a lot of things you can take advantage of with the aarp, but also you just have to take advantage of it. >> i think it's better. i have to say, when you look back on the tape of your life, don't you think it's gotten better? >> yeah, i hope it continues to get better, too. >> it's not over yet. >> yeah, that's awesome. >> you had a little surgery on your knee, though. >> i did. this past week, messing around on the beach in south florida around easter and thought i was still playing and ended up tearing cartilage. it's okay. i'm going to be all right. >> look at the shots of you. >> yeah. >> you do miss it but it's been a while now, but it never leaves you. the competition and wanting to compete and be a part of football. that's what's great about doing our show, "nfl today" it's a way to still stay involved.

>> competition there. >> get excited about the game. >> you have a good time with one another. >> yeah, j.b. is there. i know he's been here a few times. >> you know how much we love j.b. thursday is a pretty big day, nfl draft. there's been a lot of talk about the colts, obviously, and andrew luck. is andrew luck a good fit for the colts? >> when you look at him, what he's been able to accomplish in his college career, all the things he's done, and his dad was an nfl quarterback and kind of runs in the family, i think he'll be a terrific pick for them. it's going to be a challenge at first because they're in a rebuilding state right now, the colts with peyton manning leaving and them having a season like they had last year. it's going to be tough. plus, he's replacing, you know, a superstar, so a lot of pressure on him that way. but he seems very mature. he'll be able to handle it. >> what about titan going to the broncos? >> i'm excited for him. i know what a competitor he is and how much he loved the game. for him to have a chance to be able to come back and hopefully he's healthy and play the way he has in the past, at that high

level. exciting for him. i think denver has a chance, you know, to -- they were in the playoffs last year. they have a chance. that's why he wanted to go out there, i think. >> suppose you had a son who was 10 years old and he said, dad, i want to be you. i want to be a pro quarterback. what would you do to make him as good as he possibly could be? >> you know, i think it's -- first of all, have you to have that, you know, talent and that ability and tell him it's good to dream. dream whatever you want to be, you should try to be. the first thing i would do is get him out there and start teaching him to throw the football, you know, all the bakes. but also just, you know, just to continue to dream and work hard at whatever it is you want to do in life. that's the most important thing. >> every great quarterback's wanted it badly. or you wouldn't be great. >> true. >> so, what would be your advice to tim tebow when he comes to the jets? >> just continue to grow as a player. >> become a running back? >> no, no. he gets a lot of heat. he's won some games, tebow but

at the same time there are question marks. last year in the playoffs they weren't as successful as they wanted to be. it will be exciting to see. >> is it too late for him to learn to be a great passer? >> i think you continue to learn on that. i wouldn't say it's too late but pretty darn close when you're that age. you know, when you learn throwing early and through college, it's hard to change once you get to be a professional, 24, 25 years old. >> we were talking on the break before we went on the air, do you think anybody tried to hurt you when you were quarterback? >> i don't think anybody really intentionall tried to do that. >> you don't? >> at least i don't think so, in my career. 17 years is a long time. it might have happened but to my knowledge, no, i never felt like -- look, football players respect each other because of, you know, the career, the short careers. it's your livelihood. you don't want that to intentionally be a part of your game. >> can you teach a quick release? >> you can. you can.

>> what is the inside joke? >> well, it's my passing motion. i would get rid of the ball quick. that's what charlie's saying. >> oh, okay. >> once again, aarp.org. let's not talk about quick release and all that other stuff. >> i commend you for doing that. >> thank you, thank you. >> when i get to be 50, boy, i'm going to sign up. >> we'll sign you up. >> i've got it on my calendar, it's a few years away. >> you're a good ambassador. >> thank you. >> nice to have you here today. >> appreciate it. anna quindlen is one the best writers around, new memoir looks at

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decided not to award a prize for fiction. this has not happened since 1977. >> this morning author anna quindlen is here. she's written five best selling novels. she's won a pulitzer as a new york times columnist and her new book "lots of candles, plenty of cake," good morning. >> good morning. >> we'll talk about your book in a second but what did you think about the decision not to award a pulitzer this time? >> i think it depend on what the standard is. if it's for the best novel published in the given year, they fell down on the job. if the standard is a book for the ages, maybe not. i think it's worth noting that before '77 there were many, many years when they didn't give a fiction prize. so it's the long stretch giving one that's more aberrational. >> does that suggest when they give it, this is a book for the ages? >> i think it may. or may suggest that was the standard before and it isn't any longer. i just don't know.

i don't see that codified anywhere. >> it seems they give pull litter for best work of the year, journalism, nonfiction or fiction. >> maybe they bring a different standard, fiction, drama, to some of those things. i don't really know. i didn't think it was quite as big a deal as other people did. >> let's take stock, talking about good books. do you mind if we talk about "lots of candles plenty of cake"? >> i would love that. >> your mim othemoir, age of 60 decided now is the time because? >> i think it's a good moment. >> i do, too. >> but i also had this moment, which i detail in the book, where my daughter was worried about me after a storm at our house. and i said to her, i'm too old to die young now. and at the moment i said that, it suddenly seemed to me that i had moved over into a different stage of the continuum of life. the more i thought about that, the more i thought i wanted to

write about it. >> you know what i thing is so great -- we do a thing on cbs called letters to your younger self. you talk about that. if you look at your 23-year-old self, you say, you really know nothing. >> absolutely. but also don't listen to all the naysaying. i think of all the time i wasted listening to the voices of the world saying you're not good at this or not good enough at that, you know, you just got to keep on keeping on. and learn the stuff you need to know as fast as you can. >> but that was in your life experience. your life experience was people saying, you're good, you're good, come do this, come do this and you pulled back and said, i know what i want to do. i want to go home and write. >> well, i did do that. also -- you know, when you're young there's you're good, you're good, you're good, you're the good young person. you think, when i get older am i still going to be any good? that's something you have to deal with as you grow older and to some extent usurped by

younger people. >> do you write as well today as life? >> i think i write better. >> that's what i thought. i rest my case. >> it's all cumulative. >> you talk, too, about parenting. i love what you say about parenting. my philosophy is you sew their wings on tight and let them soar. you think the same thing. you love them enough not for them to stay but to leave. >> exactly. i think the best job i ever did as a mother is when i got out of their way. there's raw material, you got to shape it to some extent but this micromanaging, this trying to turn them into something you want them to be as opposed to who they really are, that's a fool's bargain. >> how do i know the balance? >> it's hard. you got to strike it day by day and sometimes you get it wrong. my oldest on and i were talking the other day. he said, i remember early on you

said this book might be called mistakes were made, and that was more about motherhood than anything else. >> and marriage. charlie, we sit here both divorcedings charlie and i. i'm thinking -- >> not to each other. >> now, there's a story. >> that is a story. a safety net of small white lies can be the bedrock of a successful marriage. well, come on -- > does that make sense to you? a safety net of small white lies -- >> tell me what you meant and i'll tell you -- >> i mention that i lie to my husband about how much everything costs. because if i said to my husband, gee, you know, that couch was however many thousand dollars, he'd go on and on about it. he'd probably never sit on the darn thing. so, you know, i have to sort of massage things into place. he doesn't seem to mind. or even notice. >> how old would you be if you didn't know how old you snrp. >> i love that question. >> i do, too. >> there are studies that show that everyone thinks they are somewhat younger than they are.

the older you get, the more time you shave off. as i say in the book, if you woke me up from a sound sleep and said, how old are you? i'd probably say 41. but the truth is, my life today is better than my life was at 41. >> yep. p>> my kids are successfully ? launched and i feel really good about where they are now. my friendships are so important. you know, sometimes you lose your girlfriends during those years when you're raising kids because you just don't have the time. suddenly we're back with a vengeance. it just feels like a really good time in my life. >> you know, you said eleanor roosevelt said you should do something every day that scares you. you say you should do something every day that surprises you. i was surprised to know, anna quindlen, she can do a handstand at a moment's note. >> a head stand. >> no, i mean a head stand. we won't ask you to demonstrate that -- >> that's why i'm wearing a dress. >> when was the last time you did something surprising? >> oh, gosh. every time i finish a piece and

it reads halfway decently to me, i'm surprised. >> i got it. >> anna quindlen, thank you. great to have you here. >> thanks, charlie. thanks, gayle. >> lots of candles plenty of cake goes on sale nationwide tomorrow. jeremy irons was once called a thinking woman's pin-up. we'll talk with him when we come back. [ male announcer ] this was how my day began. a little bird told me about a band...

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jeremy irons' memorable characters have thrilled audiences for more than four decades. he's done everything from oscar winning role to the terrifying voice of car in "the lion king". >> and in tv drama he played scheming pope alexander. >> i instruct you of vengeance.

>> do i need lessons? >> vengeance should never be seen as that. it should always be unexpected and it should rarely be public. >> you learned this from the lord? >> jeremy irons, welcome. >> good morning. it's a pleasure to be here. >> tell me about pope alexander vi. >> well, he was a -- sort of discovering him weekly, but he's a pope who had 12 children, which tells you something. >> he's complicated, jeremy. >> he's different already, isn't he? >> he's complicated. >> he's a very rounded man. for an actor it's a joy to play because he's both a great believer, head of the christian church in -- about the time this country was discovered, 1490s. and a man who would use almost

any -- any weapon to get his way and to strengthen the catholic church and strengthen their position in europe. >> he's got 12 children and a couple of mistresses. seems to be looking all over the place. have you gotten any feedback from the catholic church? >> they've kept very quiet, probably rightly. but, you know, i would not expect our monarch, elizabeth ii to comment on my playing of richard iii, who was a pretty difficult king. we know this is historical. we know times are very different then, but what it gives us is the ability to play a time when power was pretty absolute coming from the vatican, from rome. >> is any shakespeare role you want to play? >> the great thing is those

roles are waiting there. one day there will be a lier, i hope. i just finished playing henry iv, for two plays. i'm getting back to shakespeare is wonderful because that language is so rich. but neil jordan, who writes "the borgias" gives us pretty meaty stuff to play. he's our producer and writer and director. >> your son is an actor? >> he is. >> what's it like for to you watch him? does he ask you for advice? >> he does sometimes ask me, but, you know, you have to learn things yourself. the business is so different now. he's moving -- he's 25 and moving into a business that is quite different from how it was when i was 25. but i look at him now and i think, you're a better actor now than i was at your age. >> wow. >> so --

>> that's pretty high praise coming from you. not just as his father. i mean that very seriously. >> did you try to stop him from doing it. >> i didn't encourage him. it's not easy when my wife is also an actress, quite successful, and he's brought up in a family where he has parents that are two successful actors. you know that's rare. i don't want him to think that's just the way it will always be for him. it's a tough life, es pecially now. >> and parents that are still together. i love that. >> it's a miracle. >> i don't know fitz a miracle. two parents that are still together. i sit here and listen to your voice. i know you know what a great voice you have. it's been described as one of the best voices ever. when did you know that your voice was so distinct? how does it sound to your ear? >> i don't listen to it. i remember a story, when i was around 30, john hurt, a fren of mine, a neighbor, we were having coffee. i suppose late 20s, 30, and he said to me, he said, have you

noticed how many good young actors there are around at the moment? i said, yes, i am -- i understand we're being chased, chased. he said, you know what i do? if i meet a young actor who i think is very good i say, you have a fantastic voice. have you ever listened to it? and you know that he is completely messed up. because if you become conscience, it just gets in the way. thank you for the compliment but i put it aside. >> i look back for a moment, was your role that was more satisfying to you than any other? >> oh, the complicated roles always satisfy me. movies tend to be too dimensional because of the time, only two hours. you can't really go into depth. with "the borgias" i'm able to play somebody who is really complicated on many levels and fascinating for an audience as a result. shakespeare always gives you that. i suppose perhaps, and you won't

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