u÷uñjñ good morning. it is thursday, may 31, 2012. welcome to studio 57 at the cbs broadcast center. i'm charlie rose. trouble on wall street as the dow takes another dive. and the violence continues in syria with rebels sending the government a new ultimatum. i'm erica hill. a shooting spree in seattle leaves six dead, including the gunman. a former high school football star wrongly convicted of rape will finally get his shot at the nfl. i'm gayle king. when i see you at 8:00, the vatican this time taking on the nuns. plus tommy hilfiger and ethan hawke stop by studio 57.

we begin as we do every day, a look at today's "eye opener". >> europe is driving the bus and the stock market certainly got pummeled. >> debt fears send investors running for the exit. >> markets slump on continued worries of the eurozone debt crisis. >> dow down 161%. >> down 6% in the month of may. that's the biggest monthly loss in yearly a year. >> we've had two tragic shootings that have shaken this city. >> the gunman open fire in a crowded cafe. >> when officers arrived, they found five people in the restaurant who had been shot. >> less than an hour later, the gunman shot a woman and stole her car. >> officers spotted the suspect. he pulled a gun and shot himself. >> it's the last place you would expect something like this to happen. >> giving bashar al assad a 48-hour deadline to accept an international peace plan. >> a wildfire in new mexico has ground into that state's largest wildfire ever.

>> can you believe it, an out of control pickup truck smashes through the wall. six people were hurt. >> you've been drinking? you're operating a lawn mower on a roadway. these are problems. >> i had one beer. >> a kansas city neighborhood started calling when they saw this raccoon stuck on a light pole. >> all that -- >> how about that, three touchdown night for the mariners. they get 21 runs. >> way to go. >> and all that matters -- >> exonerated from false rape charges, brian banks may get a shot at his dreams of playing in the nfl. >> this is what i've been waiting for. >> on "cbs this morning." >> the obama campaign unveiled the new mobile app and misspelled america. >> we can debate whether obama was born in america, but there is no proof he was born in amercia. is no proof he was born in amercia. i heard he was born in kanye. captioning funded by cbs

welcome to "cbs this morning." we begin with new worries about the economy after one of the worst days of the year on wall street. the dow jones industrial has lost 160 points wednesday after new reports of trouble with european banks. >> rebecca jarvis is here to show us what exactly is going on an what this all means. good morning. >> good morning to you. there's an old aadage on wall street, sell in may and then go away. so far this may, there's been a lot of selling. the dow fell 1.3% yesterday. meantime, the broader market is on track for its worst performance since september, with the s&p 500 down almost 6% this month. and numbers like these are alarming for investors, for their retirement savings and for those tapping into their retirement funds. but they also imply an overall weakness in the global economy. now, at the root of that weakness is what's happening across the atlantic, with our biggest trading partner, europe.

at least nine european countries have double-dipped back into recession, including the united kingdom, spain, europe's fourth largest economy, where banks are in serious trouble, and a quarter of the population is unemployed. and greece, whose upcoming election will likely determine whether or not the country even stays in the european union. now, back on u.s. soil, the real estate market is still faltering. contracts by previously owned homs unexpectedly dropped 5% 5% in april. while our economy is adding jobs, they're growing now at a slower pace than they did over the winter. the one positive in all of this for u.s. consumers is that all of the slower growth around the world means lower demand for oil. and that means lower prices. crude, which was $110 a barrel, fell below $88 today for the first time since october. that is good news for consumers who are paying about 20 cents less at the pump than last month.

what happens next, it all comes down to the labor report, which we get from the department of labor tomorrow. >> thank you, rebecca. now to campaign 2012 where both sides are finding new targets to attack this morning. the new focus is president obama's support for green energy and mitt romney's record as governor. >> as bill plante reports, the gop challenger is also raising money and reaching out to new voters. bill, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, erica. you know, california gets a lot of attention from both parties, despite the fact it's not really in play. it's a democrat stronghold. but candidates go there for the money. that's where mitt romney was on wednesday n one of the bluest corner of the state, the lincoln valley. president obama welcomed mitt romney to the race wednesday with a phone call. c congratulating him on clinching the gop race. >> the president discussed with how he looks forward to what he believes is a very important debate, that will be engaged during this campaign. >> reporter: with the now nation

now locked down, romney is now introducing himself to the american public at large in an interview with fox news. >> people will get to know more about me. >> reporter: the obama campaign, after weeks of attacks on romney's job, shiftedto his time as the gov more of massachusetts. >> by the time romney left office we were 47th in the nation in job growth. >> reporter: and david axelrod who sent a five-page memo is headed to boston to attack the dpormer governor. romney will spend the day in california as he focuses on solydra. >> they took $55 million in taxpayer loan guarantees and went bankrupt. >> reporter: here in washington today democrats and republicans are actually going to get to practice politics of civility, which they wish for in these partisan days, or say they do

anyway. george w. bush and his father, former president george h.w. bush, will both be here for unveiling of the younger bush's official portrait. never mind president obama has been blaming what he calls failed policies of the bush years, protocol calls for today to be all smiles. according to historians, most men who have had the top job, actually do end up liking one another. >> thank you so much. also in washington, john dickerson. good morning. >> good morning, charlie. >> what do you make of this shift from bain capital to governor romney's record as governor? >> it's sort of the left hook in a one-two punch. the obama campaign is still running ads about bain in ohio. they're still going to press on the question of bain. they're adding this piece from massachusetts to basically try to disqualify romney to say he's

made this argument about how his business career can translate into government, let's take a look at that. this is to disqualify him so people will decide romney can't turn the economy around. >> when you look at what's happening in europe, is that the principle worry today for the obama campaign? >> absolutely. i mean, this attempt to disqualify romney is a distraction because they don't want obama to be a referendum on the economy. what's happening in europe is totally out of the president's hands. it has a great deal of impossible impacts on the economy and the way people feel. so, that's actually the biggest piece of news in the campaign today. >> is what's happening there. there is also the fact they're going to have to talk more about solyndra because the romney campaign is focusing on that. >> right. that's romney campaign's response, the counter-punch, to continue beating this metaphor. what's interesting about solyndra is offers mitt romney to talk about his business experience. in other words, he says, this is why the president got it wrong

on solyndra. he doesn't understand the way the free market works. that's an opportunity for him to explain why his understanding of the free market, how that would apply, if he were president. >> let me pull back for a moment. in terms of the time we're looking at now, the summer months before the conventions, what is at stake here? what is it both camps hope they can accomplish? >> one thing that's at stake is they're still battling over defining who mitt romney is. romney is going out, doing softer interviews, talking about other parts of his personality. the obama campaign trying to lock in a definition of mitt romney, disqualify him on that key question. but then also both sides are really trying to gut out, find their voters, contact them, work them, get them registered in these states in the tactical ground game and trying to build up their numbers, which we probably won't see in these kind of public fights. but they're working very hard on the ground to try to get as many of their voters out as possible. that's already begun, even

though we're many months away from the election. >> john dickerson in washington, thank you. in syria, nothing seems to stop the blood shed. one rebel leader wants the u.n. to declare the peace plan a failure so troops can start a new offensive. >> u.s. officials warns the fighting could spread. allen pizzey is in the region in amman, jordan. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. the syrian rebels have given the government of president al assad a 48-hour ultimatum to abide by the u.n. peace plan or, as they put it, face the consequences. the latest rebel released amateur video shows renewed shelling on beleaguered city of homs. the video is impossible to verify but it is in keeping with images that are been the main source of news in which foreign journalists are given access. this video, allegedly taken in homs, shows what the rebels

claim is a syrian army tank being attacked and soldiers surrendering. the bodies of 13 men were found two days ago. this time u.n. observers verified the images. the victims all had their hands tied behind their backs and appeared to have been executed. the head of the u.n. monitoring mission, major general mood, said he was deeply disturbed by this appalling and inexcusable act. and once again, the syrian army was hitting houla, where 108 people, many women and children, were massacred earlier this week. the outrage prompted expulsion of senior syrian diplomats from a dozen countries. the condition of the u.n. peace plan set out six weeks ago but with two massacres this week, the u.n. secretary-general warned the situation may be reaching the point of no return. >> now, we may have reached a tipping point in syria, at the

massacre of civilians of the sort seen last weekend could plunge syria into a catastrophe civil war or a civil war from which the country would never recover. >> reporter: unavailable evidence, the syrian government is paying little attention to the u.n. the west has no idea how to end the blood shed either. >> allen pizzey. ambassador dennis ross has been shaping policy in the middle east since the reagan administration, and now with the washington institute for middle east policy. what are the risks to do something and what has to happen before the u.s. can do something? >> first of all, we have to ask the question, what happens if we stay on the path we're on? the problem with that is you're going to have a sk terectarian that becomes deeper and deeper, a divide that's unbridgeable. when people say there will be a

civil war, we're already in a civil war. when they say we'll see increasing violence, we're already seeing increasing violence. you'll end up with a failed state, lewis central authority. we have to find a way to accelerate the departure of assad. there isn't one single action that will work. i think you have to pursue a series of different actions. the russians are a pivot. you are to work to move the russians. i think the arabs need to be in a position to say to the russians, you can be a friend of bashar, a friend to us but you can't be a friend to both. we also have to try to get to deal with what is the core of assad's support. he is the leader of a minority sect that governs and has governed syria for a long time, the alloite. he says your survival depends on my survival. i think we also have to begin to think about what is it you do to change the reality on the ground in a way that assad himself begins to see that the balance of power is straining. >> what can you do to change the

reality on the ground other than some kind of support for the rebels or armed intervention? >> i think the safe haven in the north is something we have to think about very seriously. we did it in northern iraq with the kurds for a long period of time. it wasn't a mission that expanded. it was something that, in fact, we were able to control. the cost was something that was manageable. i think we have to begin to think about it. i think we have to begin to plan. you can't bluff on this. this is something if you begin to talk about doing it, you'll actually are to do it, but i think it would change the realities and psychological balance of power as well. >> if, in fact, putin would say to assad, it's time to go, would assad go? >> you know, i think there's a high probability of that. this guy's not gadhafi, he's not a hero, he's not going to leave in underground. if he thinks the balance of power psychological is changing, he'll go. one reason i say that is he's baseball basically said to his own following, look, i got an insurance policy.

it's called the russians. it turns out he doesn't have an spurns policy, then i think the realities begin to change. >> so when you're looking at what's happening today, you've laid out what can be done. if you went to the safe haven in the north, who should enforce that? who controls that? >> obviously it borders turkey. turkey says it will not do it unless security council provides support for it. if you don't move the russians, you can't get that. if you can't get the russians, you have to look at nato. >> the israel/palestinian issue, defense minister saying perhaps egypt has to set the boundaries because the peace process is not work pentagon. does that have legs? is that a viable idea? >> you mean israel in a sense setting the boundaries? >> yes. >> there was a story in "the new york times," lead story the defense minister of israel, former prime minister. >> sure. what it reflects is the notion, if you can't negotiate something

you still have to create a different reality. it means israel being prepared to take unilateral steps. i think what drives ehud barak for israel to remain democratic it cannot stay in the west bank. we had a very important statement by the prime minister of israel. i don't know he'll embrace unilateralism but he said in a speech the day before yesterday, israel cannot be a binational state. as soon as he said that, he was taking account of the demographic trend which over time, not immediate, but over time such that if israel stays in the west bank it can't be both jewish and democratic. one of the factors that led them to oslo is the idea israel would remain jewish and democratic. one of the reasons sharon withdrew from israel is because they would remain jewish and democratic. the fact ehud barak is raising this and the prime minister of israel talks about not being bilateral state, it suggests something has to be done.

it's better to make it mutual because then it's agreed and endu enduring. >> that is, in fact, the real threat to israel? >> yes. >> that's the point you're making? >> yes, yes. >> good to see you. thank you so much. seattle police say this morning a single gunman shot and killed five people before taking his own life. >> wednesdays shooting spree began in a cafe. the suspect's family isn't surprised, saying he was mentally ill. michelle millman is there. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, erica and charlie. you know, when this police tape came down in front of the racer cafe hours ago, the candles and flowers came out. this memorial here growing. many people absolutely stunned by this violence. many seattlites on edge, worried about their own safety. late wednesday morning the bearded man seen entering a popular seattle cafe. minutes later four people were fatally shot, another wounded.

as the gunman stands alone amid overturned stools, he's holding what appears to be a gun. police scoured north seattle going door to door, searching for the killer. >> a very mellow cafe. there's lots of artists there and musical performances and that kind of thing. it's the last plate you would expect for something like this to happen. >> reporter: the gunman headed downtown, fatally shooting a woman as he carjacked her black suv. police responded quickly. >> as patrol officers started to come in, the suspect saw that he was just about to be captured and the support then raised a firearm on his head and shot himself in the head. >> reporter: the gunman has been identified as ian lee stolwicky. wednesday's shootings race the number of seattle homicides this year to 21. surpassing the number for all of last year. >> i'm wondering what the heck is going on in the city. everybody is getting gun-happy.

it's crazy. >> reporter: they say he had been at the bar for days, picking fights. >> he was at the bar bei ining belligerent, being rude. >> not hearing his tunes on thursday nights and not having him there to chat and -- during morning coffee, it's going to be really hard. >> reporter: and the gunman's brother tells local paper "the seattle times" this is no surprise. andrew said, quote, we could see this coming. we're not surprised when you have so much of that anger inside of you. for "cbs this morning," michelle millman, seattle. >> thank you. two american tourists have been kidnapped in egypt. they disappeared wednesday as they were traveling by car to a resort on the sinai peninsula. they say bedouin tribesmen took

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freak accident in minnesota. look at this. a pickup truck crashed right through a bar yesterday. three people were pinned against the bar. three others were hurt. they are all expected to survive. scary. welcome back to "cbs this morning." last week we brought you the story of brian banks, a california man who served a prison term for rape before his conviction was overthrown. now as ben tracy, the nfl is calling. >> oh, man, i haven't smiled this hard probably ever. >> reporter: brian banks is finally getting his shot with the nfl. just days after being cleared

for rape he never committed, the 26-year-old is gearing up for a june 7th tryout with the seattle seahawks. he got the call from the team's coach earlier this week. >> answered the phone and it was pete carroll if i knew any linebackers. he was looking for a linebacker. i said, you got the right number. >> reporter: pete carroll is the same coach who recruited banks back in high school. offering the star player a full ride to usc, but banks never got that chance. he spent more than five years in prison after a female classmate accused him of rape in 2002. banks was forced to register as a sex offender and wear an electronic monitoring device. but last year his accuser admitted she lied. >> he did not. >> reporter: this week banks was able to return to places like six flags, off limits to convicted sex offenders. >> i went to seaworld a couple days ago. just to have that freedom to go to the places where i was told i couldn't go. and now have an opportunity to

do that, that in itself is healing for me. >> reporter: banks never gave up on the nfl. putting himself through gruelling daily workouts. since october he says he's lost more than 30 pounds and cut his body fat in half. >> just to receive these calls now and to have these opportunities to put forth all this week, is amazing. >> reporter: roughly half a dozen teams have contacted him. nfl trainer gavin mcmillan even offered to work with banks for free. >> he clearly has the athletic ability. he needs the right opportunity with the right coach in the right situation. anything can happen. >> reporter: and it's not just the nfl. derrick hall, president and ceo of the arizona diamondbacks, offered him a job with the baseball team's front office. >> this story is like one i've never seen and the see the way he's coming through this, coming out of it, i'm so impressed with him.

he deserves a new start, a fresh start and that's why i wanted to offer it with us, if need be. >> reporter: movie and book deals are also pouring in. and banks is trying to raise money for a documentary about his life. >> my final day of freedom, i was 16. >> reporter: but his main focus right now is making the nfl. >> i've been through some crazy situations in my life. i've been through some really tough situations. nervous is the last thing that i am. >> reporter: for "cbs this morning," ben tracy, los angeles. >> what a wonderful story. >> and the story gets better and better. i love that so many people have reached out to him. as you pointed out, you really like his last comment there. >> yeah, the whole notion he'd been through tough times and so no nervousness on his part. i also love the point they're trying to make a documentary. i don't think they'll have any trouble. >> harvey's already calling him

money offering him money. no worry about that. we talk about whether sports figures could be a role model f he's going to be a role model of someone who has really overcome adversity, what a great role model for my kid. >> it remind me of bradley of the knicks. he said they need to develop not just skill but character. here's character. you just might call him the father of invention. nathan myhrvold's company has made billions buying patents for tech inventions. he'll show us what the next big thing might be. >> erica is heading off to london in a few minute because tomorrow she'll be covering the queen's diamond jubilee. all of that coming up from here starting tomorrow. great to have you visit london. we'll miss you. >> i'm looking forward to it. you know what, you'll get to see me and talk to me every morning. >> you're watching "cbs this morning."

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and today mitt turned his attention to the general election by unveiling an innovative iphone app called with mitt. it invites users to send photographs of themselves across the internet with pro-mitt slogans like i'm with mitt. i stand with mitt. other we're with mitt. it's the most popular political app since the release of angry pauls. forget that facebook ipo. technology today is patents. who owns them? who's violating them? and which company will invent the next big gadget? jeff glor visited the patent wars. >> bill gates called nathan myhrvold the smartest person he know. he's a jack of all trades, physicist, cook, photographer,

technology savont and provoked another heat discussion. >> reporter: at this hidden laboratory in bellevue, washington, scientists are working on the next generation of nuclear reactors. they're also shooting mosquitos with lasers. and cooking french fries in an ultrasonic bath. why? because their boss says he believes in invention. >> the guys i bet on most are people working in a garage, crazy inventors. maybe crazy inventors working for me, or maybe working anywhere on elt. >> reporter: it's a bet nathan myhrvold first made in 1999, when he left his post at microsoft's chief technology officer to co-found inte lecture ventures. a private company that buys patents, the way inventors make money. >> in this last year we've seen patents in intellectual property

go from a side show to center is stage. secondly it's a hugely important, strategic play. >> reporter: a weapon. >> it's a battleground. >> reporter: myhrvold's company has made more than $2 billion from the 40,000 patents it owns, now at the forefront of the patent wars. the single biggest fight right now between apple and samsung over smartphones will go to trial in july. >> well, it's a pain -- >> reporter: apple ceo tim cook on tuesday. >> there's some of this that is maddening. it's a waste. it's a time suck. >> you just collect patents? >> reporter: others go further, saying nonstop patent disputes hurt innovation. their main target is myhrvold, who was questioned just yesterday at the all things digital conference. >> would you assess the animosity this audience has for your endeavors?

these people don't think you're engaged in truth and yut. >> this is the year when all the biggest and most important companies in silicon valley are doing exactly what i do. this is the year in which apple and microsoft and google and facebook and a pile of other companies all bought huge patent portfolios to further their strategic aim. >> you know, the best hitter in baseball has a batting average of like .350. >> reporter: he told us he's protecting risk-takers. >> so, we call him a hitter. he's actually a misser. he misses way more often than he hits. well f you're an inventor, your batting average is much smaller than .350 or .400, so you're even more of a misser. >> reporter: how many misses have you had and how many hits have you had? >> you know, personally, lots of misses. i've predicted lots of things that were wrong. or i've predicted the right thing but with the wrong time frame. if you're afraid of failure, you

should not be an inventor. >> reporter: at 52, criticized or not, myhrvold never seems to stop reinventing himself. dinosaur collector, an accomplished landscape photographer, last month he won two james beard awards for modernist, cuisine, a 50-pointed cookbook. the next binge thing, hes, enter active tv. >> if you look at television, interactive television, there's been lots of activity in that space, but there is no iphone of tv. no breakthrough product that changes the way we experience television in the same way. now, i've given talks about interactive tv since the early '90s. you can argue this is one of the things where i predicted lots of things would happen, and it hasn't, so i'm wrong. but damn it, event reventually going to be right. >> reporter: and you're willing to hold out? >> or make it happen. >> reporter: or make it

yourself? >> absolutely. >> he's an interesting guy. >> certainly one word for him. >> how big was the largest cookbook? >> $625, 2400 pages. he took most of the pictures for it. >> he's a photographer as well. >> yes. >> he's a renaissance man. you put the finger on this whole controversy now about patents, and who owns patents. >> tim cook clarified once of the differences, the standard essential patents versus other patents. there should be a difference between them. eople shouldn't be arguing over the industry standard. the argument is some people file lawsuits over these industry standards and that's why the patent system, as it stands right now, is broken. myhrvold filed his first lawsuit in 2010. he has eight ongoing right now. i would expect more in the future. but most people end up settling, as this discussion continues, and they pay. >> and he looks at these companies and says, what you're doing is buying engineers to create ads.

that's all i'm doing as well. buying the work of engineers. >> his argument is, we need to set up -- since he started the company, 13 years ago now, there needs to be a market-based system for patents just like there is for stocks. you know, the system needs to be more efficient. and that it was going to happen regardless and he kind of got on this train before anyone else. >> he also seems to be a man of great spirits. >> absolutely. we'll shed some light this morning on the right way to use

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♪ hey soul sister ain't that mister mister ♪ > are you awake, chicago? looking good this morning. welcome back to "cbs this morning." i'm gayle king. >> and i'm charlie rose. erica haill is on her way to london for the yooen's diamond jubilee. catholic church are targeting an group of nuns in the united states. >> they're meeting this week in washington, d.c. and as wyatt andrews reports, members are deciding what to do with the charges they're out of touch with the church's teaching. >> reporter: the nuns will be released tomorrow but this is the response from hundreds of

american catholics. protests in support of the nuns have been held in 50 cities for the last three weeks. >> who do we appreciate? >> the sisters. >> reporter: they see the nuns doing work of the schools, running charities, not a group in need of reform. college procedure lea crawl says she sees an all-male vatican asserting control over the church's women. >> you have a bishop over the nuns to reform them. it's just wrong. >> reporter: last month the vatican accused the lcwr, which represents 50,000 american nuns, of promoting radical feminist themes and faulted the leadership of being too silent on issues like the right to life and for prisonotesting homosexu. but for some nuns the vatican's demands have nothing to do with their missions of service. >> how are you feeling?

>> reporter: senior karen schneider is also an emergency room physician at john hopkins children's center in baltimore and makes frequent trips to treat children in haiti. >> personally, i don't -- i don't have time. >> reporter: you don't see those social issues in your job description? >> exactly. a child comes in in respiratory distress, i take care of a child in respiratory distress. so, that's what my ministry is. that's what i'm doing. >> reporter: tomorrow the leadership conference is most likely to give its 57,000 members, including sister karen, a range of possible responses to the vatican. there will be a survey and a vote. one dramatic option could be to disban the conference's legal ties to the vatican and then simply regroup as a catholic nonprofit. for "cbs this morning," i'm wyatt andrews in washington. >> with us is now is sister mour

even, an activist for social justice and racial and gender equality for three decades. good morning, sister. >> good morning. it's delightful to be here with both of you. >> i'm wondering, are you saying to yourself, what are the fellows at the vatican thinking? did you ever think we would come to a time where the vatican is criticizing nuns and rallies around the country in support of nuns. >> it's an unusual time that way. as i say to my friends, this is about a lot more than just the vatican versus the nuns. this is about what kind of a catholic church we're going to be. because when i hear vatican mandate, what i hear is the voice of the church of 19th century, the voice of the church before that wonderful reforming council, the second vatican council in the 1960s, when it was exhilarate tock a catholic in those days, when the windows were open and fresh air was let into the church. that's what nuns today have

embraced, is that kind of a church. not a dictorial one but a collaborative one. >> the question comes, how are they going to enforce these accusations? >> they meaning the vatican? >> yes. >> i don't know. i don't know. they say in their mandate they're going to send in an arch bishop and two bishops who will work with the nuns in order to -- but get this -- revise statut statutes, handbooks, everything. if this were the corporate world i think we would call it a hostile takeover. >> how will you respond? >> it's up to the leadership conference. >> how will they respond? >> one suggestion has been that the leadership conference become an independent nonprofit. >> what do you think about that idea? >> i think that's worthy of serious consideration. and i don't know what else is on the table. i'm not privy to the internal

deliberations they have. >> are you surprised, sister, it has come to this? i'm marvelled we're using words like radical feminist to describe nuns. are you surprised it's come to this? >> well, you know, the phrase radical feminism has a cultural ring to it. i think if you talk to most nuns, at least friends of mine, they would say, what is this? you can't be a good catholic, you can't be a good nun without being a feminist, because feminism means a belief in the fundamental equality of women and men. as far as i'm concerned, that's gospel 101. it's also teachings of the second vatican council. if you could indulge you for a second, my favorite quotation from that council comes from the document on the church in the modern world, which is, every type of discrimination based on sex is to be overcome and eradicated as contrary to god's intent. >> do you read the vatican's accusations as saying, we want you to be more concerned about

same-sex marriage and those issues than we want you to be concerned about poverty in. >> yes, that's what they're trying to say. yet i think nuns embracing the teachings that came from the second vatican council have become deeply involved in issues of poverty, injustice, in the environment. we're very concerned about those things. those are our whole lives. our vows call us to give our lives to other people. and if we're at all concerned about people of a gay or lesbian orientation, we believe they're equal, too. >> what will it take for the church to change in a way you would like to see it change and people who believe as you do, nuns? >> well whaction i would like to see is a truly collaborative model of church where the leyte, who have in wonderous numbers have come out to support us, where we develop more democratic decision-making structures at the parish level. >> but the question is, what

would be required to see that happen? what will it take for that to happen? >> i think it might take vatican iii, a third vatican council f you really want to know. >> it's accused the nuns are out of touch. could it be perhaps the vatican is out of touch? >> yes. i think so. right now -- all have you to do is look at statistics, at least for catholics in the united states. ex-catholics are the second largest denomination in the united states today. ex-catholic. and it's because of these structural issues, their lack of voice, in their parishes and in their church and because they, frankly, disagree with the hierarchy on some controversial issues like contraception. >> the next question is how does the leadership continue? >> certainly will. >> thank you for

we're still talking to the sister in the studio. doesn't she look like a sister? anyway, changing topics. she had a spellbound at the national spelling bee. we were all rooting for her. 6-year-old lori anne madison, the youngest ever to make it that far. we'll show you how she does. you're watching "cbs this morning." [ female announcer ] introducing coffee-mate natural bliss.

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staying alive, the country's best young spellers go back to work this morning, do you remember last year's winning

word at the national spelling bee. do you remember? >> cymotrichous. >> he remembers. you're absolutely right. do you know what it means, mr. rose? >> no. >> it means having wavy hair, according to our friends at mental floss. >> they ought to know. >> very good. even if you don't like to spell hard words, you've got to love little lori anne mad on. she she's the youngest contestant ever. >> whit johnson reports, sher performance stole the show at national's semifinals. >> reporter: dwarfed by a towering microphone, lori anne madison's first stage on the national stage spelled no trouble. >> d-i-r-i-g-i-r-b-l-e. >> reporter: the 6-year-old phenom who learned to read before the age of 2 quickly had

spectators believing the hype. >> lori anne, any help? >> reporter: even when espn samantha steele asked for help, lori was on point. >> you can't spell it? >> i think it's a joke. >> reporter: she's the youngest ever to compete in scripps national spelling bee, the precocious little blond from lake ridge, virginia, has other talents, too. she hopes to one day be an olympic swimmer and an astro biologist, which includes her two favorite subjects, astronomy and biology. do you think you can take her? >> i don't know. she seems very smart. she's very bright young little girl you have to have a gift if you're that young, and she really does. >> reporter: wednesday she faced off against those more than twice her age and twice her size. >> if she was taller i wouldn't know she was 6 years old because she has the intellect of someone like me. >> everyone wants to meet her and shake her hand. >> reporter: paige campbell, who

won the bee in 1981, is now the competition's director. >> she's a special brand of brilliance and i have no doubt we'll be hearing about her more, not only in the spelling bee world but in the academic world and in other pursuits for years to come. >> reporter: the previous record for a youngest to compete was set in 1993 by then 8-year-old wendy guy, who was a national champion three years later. lori anne did not win her debut. >> e-n-g-l-u-v-i-e-s. ingluvies. >> that is incorrect. >> reporter: just one letter off, on a word meaning crop of birds. heartbreaking but fitting since most agree her flight has just begun. >> will everybody join me now in saluting lori anne. >> reporter: for "cbs this morning," whit johnson, maryland.

>> we like her, don't we? >> we do. color me s-a-d. the thing about that little girl, she was just one letter off and she asked, can you give me the mean. so i think in her mind is going, is it an "i," an "e". >> there was another moment at the spelling bee yesterday, a 12-year-old boy, he knew he had a tough word and he knew he wasn't going to make it, but he's good. he's good. >> idiosyncratically. i-o i-o-i-q-r-s-z-3-quatro-s-l-b -- >> we haven't heard the last of him either. >> no, he's got it, too.

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itself. believe me, up here it is loud. normally have you to be british to be allowed up here. they have made an exception for americans to be up here to share in the celebration ahead of the queen's jubilee weekend. time waits for no man. time, the great healer. it was the best of times -- ♪ -- it was the worst of times. well, maybe not the worst of times. the monarch is about to have her diamond jubilee, after all, so any references to time had better be in celebration, which is just as well because big ben, that other great icon, is arguably the most celebrated landmark in the uk. >> it's a feat of engineering.

>> it was a major feat, even in its time, of course. >> reporter: and today it marks an anniversary of its own. 153 years since the clock first started ticking. behind the face we know so well is a man who knows a thing or two about time, big time. the keeper of the great clock? >> the keeper of the great big ben. >> reporter: he keeps the great clock ticking and it's the clock that rings the bell, the great bells, known as big ben. big ben is the bell, it's not the clock, it's not the tower? >> no. it's the hour bell. to be honest, it's been known for the whole thing. >> reporter: we got a rare glimpse at inner workings of the clock. not only what makes it tick but bong. its mechanism was technologically years ahead of its time. it's almost a miracle it does work and that it's kept working. >> built the clock by 1854.

they had to get this clock, the most accurate clock ever built. >> reporter: the first stroke of each other had to be accurate to within one second. ian westworth, the mechanic who's been winding the clock, literally, for the past seven years wants to keep it that way. he has an old-fashioned fix, pennies. >> by putting it or taking off pennies on the pendulum like this, you speed up or slow down the clock by two-fifths of a second in 24 hours. >> reporter: but the gut of the five-ton mechanism are much more heavy duty. every 15 minutes weights attached by wires to the clock plummet down a shaft, striking the four smaller quarter hour bells.

>> everybody always gets shocked by the amount of noise that generates. ♪ >> reporter: big ben has been striking on the hour, every hour, for the past 150 years. the first time it rang out across london, that other long-serving monarch was on the throne, queen victoria. who, incidentally, has a tower named after her, the victoria tower, which faces big ben across westminster palace. big ben is slightly shorter than its big sister, but you wouldn't know it making your way up 340 steps to the belfry. it's 200 feet high. big ben, the bell was cast here at the foundry. alan hughes runs that business now. a business that's been trading for 500 years and counts the original liberty bell amongst its creations. he knows a thing or two about

history. he says the bell's nickname could have been to a portly politician. >> big ben by virtue of his size and said one mp in the back somewhere thoroughly tired in this long speech, and said, why don't we just call it big ben, and everybody laughed. like so many stories, it stuck. >> reporter: the bell was sold for the grand some of 572 pounds or about $900, nicknamed before it was even hung. >> in may 1858 the bell had not even been hung in the tower, we refer in our book to four pounds of the old big ben. >> reporter: naming the 13 1/2 ton bell was the easy part. >> we have always understood that this was part of the tow rope used for towing the bell from white chapel to westminster. the task was carried out by 16 white horses and when it arrived in westminster, it was hauled up

the tower with a gang of men work. >> reporter: it was a remarkable feat of engineering and man power that produced an enduring monument on the city sky light, echoing across london, marking out time. now, big ben is the bell. the building we're standing in is actually called clock tower but some british politicians wanted to rename it elizabeth's tower in honor of the queen's 60th an anniversary. >> how loud is the clock? >> reporter: it's indescribable. your whole body shakes. even if you cover your ears, have you to wait 20, 30 seconds. it's terrible. >> charlie, can you hear me? can you hear me, charlie d'agata? >> which did your hearing begin to go? you know what i think is so great, until your report today, i didn't -- i did not know big ben was actually the bell.

i always thought it was the whole clock. i love it when i learn something on "cbs this morning." >> and as she's learned everything she's always wanted to know about big penn. and more. >> reporter: everything you've ever wanted to know. >> and then some. thank you, charlie d'agata. tommy hilfiger is here today, the all-american fashion designer, joining us to talk about his journey from bell bottoms, remember those, to big, big business.

♪ familiar red, white and blue logo reminds us of the american flag. tommy hilfiger has been living the american dream for a long time. >> and he has. next week he receives the lifetime achievement award. think about that. lifetime achievement award from the council of fashion designers. that's big. we're glad to have him here with us in studio 57.

m hello. >> good morning, gayle. >> i'm reading about you. you're one of nine kids. your parents wanted you to be an engineer. you wanted to play football. did you always love clothes? >> i wasn't really interested in clothes until i was like 18. >> what made you interested in clothes? >> i was really obsessed with rock music. i wanted to look like a rock star. and in those days, in the late '60s, early '70s, everybody had long hair and wore bell bottoms. i wanted to be part of that scene. you couldn't find bell bottoms in elmyra, new york, so i decided to open a shop with a couple of friends. we opened a store in high school and it became very successful. we opened many shops. >> just with bell bottoms? >> well, that type of gear, hippie type clothes. >> because rock stars got the girls. >> they still do. >> you're right. >> nothing has changed.

also this notion that not only did you have a classic american look, americana was part of it, but you also appealed at the same time to rappers. what made that happen? >> you know, i think in the early '90s everyone wanted to wear the clothes. rockers, skateboarders, athletes, everyone. and it really morphed into a global lifestyle brand, really, with classic american coolness as the handle. so, it was preppy classic but always cool and a little irreverent. when we took it outside of the united states, it really caught on. it's now -- you know, we have over 1,000 stores in the world. we're in virtually every major city. >> yeah. it still stands today. what fascinates me about you, is you're in your early 20s, going gang busters, huge success, so successful that you end up filing for bankruptcy. i'm wondering, a, how did that happen? and what did you learn from that failure? how did that happen?

>> that was my mba. i never went to college because while i was in college, i opened my first store. and it began growing into a very substantial business. but as a young 20-year-old, i wasn't really paying attention to the business part of the business. >> what were you doing? >> partying at studio 54, going to rock concerts, taking vacations. really not focusing on the business. >> yeah. >> and it taught me a tremendous lesson. from that moment on, i decided i was not only going to be a creative person in the business but also a business person in the business and blend the two together. >> the most successful people have either combined the two or had someone who they could depend on to do the business side. >> i also surrounded myself with an incredible group of partners. and i still have amazing partners. we are part of the pvh company. that's really one of the major

apparel companies in the world. >> where are you today in terms of you see the impact you're having on fashion, at the moment? >> i think every successful designer has their own lane. and i have my own lane or my own niche. >> what's that lane? >> it's all about preppy american classic for the world. >> is that the same thing that ralph lauren is? >> ralph is more aristocratic, more grown up and sophisticated. and i think more british heritage in a sense where we're really, really very american. >> british from the bronx. >> looking genius. he's done a great job. >> o have you. listen, you're getting the lifetime achievement award. what did that mean to you when you heard that?& i thought, you're not an old guy. what did that mean, lifetime achievement? >> i thought maybe some day that would be in the cards but i thought i'd have to be maybe in my 70s or much older. it's an honor. and i'm humbled by it. but at the same time, i have a

lot more to do. i love what i do, so i keep moving ahead, keep working -- >> what do you most want to do? >> just do whatever we're doing now better. always evolving, always improving it. and really focusing on expanding in the emerging market -- china, russia, india, brazil. those are great growth areas for us, for all of the product. >> i've heard you say, trends set trends but you can't stay stuck in a trend because that leads to big trouble. whatever you're doing is working. >> thank you, gayle. >> continued success. >> and stripes are still in. thank you. >> tommy can pull it off. >> thank you. ethan hawke pulls it off, too. he's a successful novelist, director and screen writer, too 37 we know him best as a fine actor who takes on very challenging roles. he's joining us to talk about his latest endeavor.

my ex-husband has come despite an exclusion. >> why would do you that? why? >> you know why. >> i didn't know why. i wanted to know why, ethan. oscar nominated actor and writer stars in the new thriller, "the woman in the fifth" and he's been in more than 40 films. >> he plays a novelist whose

life takes a dangerous turn after moving to paris. welcome. >> thank you for having me. >> what's this film about? >> that's a very good question. you'll have trouble answering after you see it. i have this theory f i could tell you what it was about, it wouldn't be nearly as good. >> ah. >> at the end, i was a little confused because it takes a little twist and turn and very section sexual, sensual and mysterious. you play a dad estranged from your wife and you're involved in a custody dispute. you quit your job and you go to france to be with your daughter. >> uh-huh. >> i like it so far. >> so far so good. >> the truth, the movie is directed by a polish director, incredibly brilliant guy and was an absolute pleasure to work with him. but he's not interested in telling stories the same way that american movies are used to being told stories. he looks at the movie -- he

aspires for it to work on the same level that w.h. odden or t.s. elliott. he wants it to evoke whatever you want it to. having a drink or a piece of pie after the movie, you probably do know what happens. >> what kind of pie? >> what's your favorite? >> when you sit down -- you really analyze -- >> you need to talk about it. >> yes, you're so right. we won't do that today. >> good. >> it's intriguing and lends itself to great conversation after. and you speak french in the movie. did you speak french before? i thought your accent was fantastic. >> do you speak french? >> no. >> i'm glad but -- >> so your accent wasn't to great. >> i don't think i'll be getting any french awards. >> got it.

>> here's what powell said, aforementioned director, he said, that you embody the right balance between neurotic edge on the one hand and on the other hand -- >> that's a compliment. >> -- irresistible boyish charm. >> thank you. >> is that what he inside. >> i think that's what he wants the character to be. directors always see their actors as the character. that's what he wanted that guy to be, is a person who's going through some incredible paranoid schizophrenia in a way. depression and what it feels -- my character has giant lenses on it. part of the theory is that when you're really, realy depressed you kind of can't see outside yourself. it's almost like when you're blind. >> why is he depressed? >> i think he's clinically depressed.

the literal reason, he's lost his family. the movie kind of starts after we know how he lost them. >> yes. >> and i think by the time it's over you're pretty sure it might be his fault. >> yes. could you relate to his depression in any way? >> as a who's written books, been divorced, always trying to read between the lines -- >> but life good for you, because you're married, have you a new baby in the house. >> yes. >> so life is good. >> life is very good. i'm not in paris trying to commit suicide. i'm here, happily with this movie. >> i became smitten with you with "dead poet's society." what was that time of life like for you? did you think, i can do this, i like doing this? >> i feel sorry -- there's so many young people coming out now. first of all, i think it's a really hard time with the way that the internet works and the way it seems to eat up people. but i had this benefit of experiencing fame with a group

of young people. i always felt -- when julia roberts broke or justin bieber breaks, when these things happen, i feel sorry for them. >> because it's alone. >> robert shawn leonard and josh charles, those guys we got to walk through that experience together. you didn't -- it was a great bonding experience. and that movie is a great movie to be associated with. >> are you directing also a documentary about -- is it a concert pianist? >> seymour bernstein, he's largely a teacher and a writer now. i'm really interested in teachers at this moment in my life and how it is that we all can keep learning throughout our life. how do you do it? you know, how do you not -- how do you stay curious? >> great to see you. >> continued success to you, ethan hawke. >> movie is called "a woman in the fifth".

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