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good morning. it is monday, june 4, 2012. welcome to studio 57 at the cbs broadcast center. i'm charlie rose. gayle king is off. stocks continue to fall around the world after friday's dismal unemployment report. george zimmerman's back behind bars, accused of lying to the judge in the trayvon martin murder case. we'll speak to zimmerman's attorney. i'm erica hill in london where the queen's diamond jubilee continues in full force this morning. we'll talk with prime minister david cameron and ride along on one of the hundreds boats in sunday's royal pageant on the thames. as we do every morning, we begin with a look at today's "eye opener," your world in 90 seconds. the problem is this administration and this
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president, policies are hostile to job creators. >> washington plays the blame game. as the world economy shows new signs of weakening. >> a major selloff for stocks overseas and signs all of the selling won't stop when wall street opens today. >> over the past 27 months, we have created 4.3 million private sector jobs. >> they may have created over 4.3 million jobs, but the country's still not back to where it needs to be. >> the booking process. >> george zimmerman is being held in isolation this morning after his return to the seminole county jail. >> a judge revoked the accused killary's bond. >> for deceiving the court about his finances. >> it's a credibility credibility question for mr. zimmerman and now he has to rehabilitate it. >> it's a horrific scene in nigeria's largest city after a jetliner slammed into a busy neighborhood sunday. >> 153 people on board the jet died. >> more than a million came
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together in london to pay tribute to her majesty, the queen. >> all that -- >> the enterprise has now gone where no space shuttle has ever gone before. to new jersey. >> richard dawson, the host of "family feud" has died. one estimated he kissed about 20,000 women. >> i'll keep my eyes peeled for my next wife. >> miss usa 2012, rhode island! >> and all that matters -- >> go in, go in, go in. it is in! >> nicklaus and woods, side by side now on the overall victory list. >> -- on "cbs this morning." >> go. >> glad you're back? >> go. >> glad you're back? >> i won. captioning funded by cbs welcome to "cbs this morning." mitt romney and his supporters
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hit the campaign trail hard over the weekend, attacking president obama's economic policies after friday's weak jobs report. >> this morning financial markets in europe and asia are falling again after friday's big drop on wall street. the president is not only facing new economic trouble at home, but he also has to deal with europe's growing debt crisis, which of course he can't control. bill plante is at the white house. bill, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. the dismal job numbers friday were indeed a heavy blow to the president's campaign because it reminds people just how far the economy has to go to recover. there's only a three or four-month window before many voters decide how they're going to vote in november. republicans, including mitt romney, jumped on the slow growth numbers as a sign that the president can't deliver what he's promised. romney told supporters that if there's improvement, it's not because of the president and his words, it's in spite of him. other republicans hammered home the same message. >> the problem is this
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administration and this president, policies are hostile to job creators. >> this president came into office without any prior experience running anything. >> he's a president who's in love with the sound of his own voice but hasn't been able to follow through on too many promises. >> reporter: on the news friday that last month's unemployment rate ticked up to 8.2%, and with the knowledge that no president has won re-election when unemployment is higher than 7.4%, president obama's campaign is trying to shift the blame in a moment when there are no easy answers. on "face the nation" chief strategist david axelrod opened a new line of attack on congress, calling members architects of obstruction who need to step up and step in. >> instead of high-fiving each other on days when there's bad news, they should stop sitting on their hands and work on some of these answers. >> reporter: the president had the same message in his weekly address. >> my message to congress is, let's get to work. it's not lost on anybody that this is an election year.
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but we've got responsibilities that are bigger than an election. >> reporter: republicans say the president's proposal, which includes several tax reforms, won't change the trajectory of the economy, but there are also the republican-controlled house is unlikely to do anything that could help the president. some members remember 1996 when bill clinton was running for re-election and cut a deal with republicans. clinton looks like a leader, at the expense of his republican challenger bob dole. clinton has publicly encouraged the president to better explain his accomplishments. >> if we get that out, i think he'll be just fine and i think he'll be re-elected. >> reporter: well, president clinton's interview last week was a very public signal to president obama and his campaign to change course. clinton obviously believes that the president's attacks on romney are a mistake and he needs to emphasize what he'd do in a second term. the president and the former president are appearing together
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tonight at a fund-raiser in new york city, though clinton may have a chance to make his argument. charlie? >> bill plante, thank you. in washington, democratic strategi strategist, terry mcauliffe. >> good morning. how are you? >> i'm well. good to have you here. tell me whether blaming others will get the president elected. >> well, i think it's important, first of all, for president obama, as they have done to get their record out there, we've had 27 months of job growth. remember, charlie, inherited an economy losing 750,000 jobs a month. the auto industry's back. president obama and their team saved the auto industry. the best may we've ever seen in the auto industry. things are moving in the right drik, albeit we have to create more jobs. we are creating jobs and we have to continue. congress has to get on the ball. the president has put a lot of common sense proposals out there. they're not paying attention. they're doing politics. >> i just saw david axelrod and stephanie cutter blaming
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congress rather than talking about the president. >> well, clearly president obama and the team and all of us have been out there talking about president obama's accomplishments and the jobs that have been created. but this is going to be a clear choice election. a romney economics, look what he did in massachusetts. under job creation they became 47th out of 50 states. he raised taxes and fees 1,000 times. he took the debt up. he increased state spending every year by over 6%. there is a clear contrast. that's economic policies that got us into the mess. president obama is out leading, we're moving in the right direction, we've created jobs for 27 straight months. let's not forget that. in a very tough world economy, you see what's happening in greece n spain, what's going on all over the world. it's a tough time to be commander in chief and the suspect out there with the right proposals to keep the economy moving. let's go guard, not backwards. >> you're close to former president clinton. he seems to be saying to president obama, you have to explain things better, and only
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by doing that will you be one-on-one with the voters. >> well, sure, it's important to talk about what you have done. and i think it's very important to lay your track record, and we're proud of the record president obama has. also lay out where you want to take this country. and i think the president has consistently done that. i think the one thing that bothers most americans today, and i think we're all very concerned about, are these super pacs, the hundreds of millions of dollars of money that can come in, you don't know who is going to put the money behind it, what they're going to say. it's very damaging for democracy. i agree. we have to lay the course of why we need to move forward with president obama. i am very confident about where we are today and that we're going to win again. look, i live in virginia. you just had the republican governor, head of the republican governor's association come on television saying that money we got from pb helped balance our budget, save thousands and thousands of jobs. people understand it, but we have to continue to lay those markers out. >> terry, you follow global economics and you know that europe is looking worse. they cannot come to some
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agreement. most people believe that that will have an impact on the u.s. economy. we saw the job numbers coming up last friday. if the economic news does not get better, how difficult will it be for the president to get re-elected? >> well, clearly, charlie, you always like to run for re-election. anyone in politics would like to have great economic numbers. i would make the argument we have excellent numbers on job creation, we've continued to do it. we don't know. we see what's happening in europe today. issues as it relates to iran. there is very difficult signals throughout the world. i would rather keep us moving in the direction with a president who has dealt with the worst economic when he became president, losing 750,000 jobs a month, our economy about to go over the cliff. it was president obama who got us back from the brink, has helped us create jobs. so my point would be, we saw what the republicans did when they control the government. if you look at the last 24 years, 12 democrats, 12 years of republicans, it was bill clinton who came in from a recession
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from the first president bush. got us great economic movement. you have president obama who came in after second bush, another gigantic recession. these choices are clear. it is the democrats who get the economic engine of this economy moving forward again. romney economics, we saw what he did in massachusetts, backwards in job creation. we're moving forward. >> good to have you here. thank you very much. >> thank you. as terry said, and we talked about growing concern that europe's economic woes are dragging down the american economy. now to erica in london for a look at the situation there. erica sdm? >> charlie, thank you. while this city is clearly in the mood to celebrate right now, there are people actually saying the queen's jubilee gives them a little chance to take a break from the reality of this growing financial crisis. the problem is, the u.s. may not be far behind with those latest unemployment numbers coming out on friday. helping to raise fears of another recession. this time a potential downturn isn't expected to come from the housing market but, rather, could originate right here.
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>> reporter: a little rain couldn't dampen the diamond jubilee celebration in london, but the dark economic clouds gathering across europe have many worried, especially in the u.s. on friday disappointing jobs numbers sent stocks into a tailspin. the dow down 275 points, its biggest drop since november. world markets followed with steep losses in europe amid growing fears of another global economic downturn, led by europe's instability. >> europe has us all together. without that, the united states would struggle to pull through on even it's 1.9% gdp. >> reporter: with unemployment at 11%, highest since 1999, most of the eurozone is in some form of financial cries. greece is facing potential bankruptcy and banishment from the european union and more american companies are scaling back. europe's ge ceo said, quote,
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europe will be a smaller part of the company going forward. >> right at the moment it's getting very difficult to be confident. >> reporter: when prime minister david cameron took office in 2010, his coalition government announced sweeping austerity measures, cutting nearly half a million public sector jobs, raising the retirement age and sparking massive protests. today britain is in a double-dip recession. but there was little talk of that in london this weekend. as britain celebrates the queen in grand style, it gives you a chance to forget about the economy for a few days, but when it's over, it may be more like a extended hangover. was there ever any concern about the optics of the celebration? >> i think the british people are very good at understanding the difficulties a country and an economy can face when you've got this debt problem and debt issues all over the world. there really is something to celebrate. we really do do it properly. >> reporter: celebrating the
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queen is one thing. finding a reason to celebrate the economy isn't nearly as obvious. >> we should point out the markets are closed in london today and tomorrow for bank holidays for jubilee so we'll be looking to see what happens wednesday morning. we'll bring you more of our interview with prime minister david cameron coming up in our next hour. this morning officials in lagos, nigeria, fear the death toll of a commercial airliner will rise significantly. the dana air jet crashed into an apartment building on sunday afternoon as it was trying to land. the crew had just reported engine problems. all 153 people on board were killed. but officials fear many people on the ground also lost their lives. in his first speech since january, syrian president bashar assad defended his crackdown on opponents but denied responsibility for last month's massacre that killed more than 100 people in the city of houla. alex thompson of britain's channel 4 is in the capital of damascus. >> reporter: a speech by
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president assad to his parliament in damascus isn't unusual and it's clear the regime is being affected in one sense by international pressure because president assad went out of his way to talk about the terrible events in houla. he blamed them squarely on terrorists. now, when the regime here talks about terrorist, what they mean now, we were the first journalists to get into houla after those terrible events in which 108 people were killed, mostly women and children. everybody we spoke to right across that town squarely blamed the event not on terrorists, but armed militias which they claim are run by president assad's regime. they pointed out to the west where they said these armed militias had come from. yesterday we were the first journalist to visit those villages. the u.n. haven't been there yet
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in terms of their investigation into these events. we found no evidence of any militias. what the people there told us was that those terrible events just after the prayers in which all those people were massacred were nothing more than tribal score-settling between different families in houla. on, you have an extraordinary culture of finger-pointing, of blame going on here, which perhaps you might expect in any civil war. alex thompson, channel 4 news for "cbs this morning," homs. now back to charlie in new york. >> thank you. there is a special election in wisconsin tomorrow and the impact could be felt in november. voters will decide whether to recall a governor who became an enemy of labor unions and a hero to the tea party by cutting back collective bargaining rights for state employees. as dean reynolds reports, money and activists are currently pouring into wisconsin from both sides. >> reporter: one more day to go before wisconsin voters put an
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end to this dispute, at least for now. >> you've got to go, baby. ♪ hit the road scott ♪ don't you come back no more no more no more ♪ >> reporter: republican scott walker's policies have proven divisive but they please those who stand with him. >> for the fi time in a long time the actual taxes went down. not for everybody, but they did go down. >> reporter: cutting taxes but also cutting spending on things like education, diminishing the power of pay and benefit of public sector unions, but also adding 30,000 jobs. former president bill clinton has campaigned for tom barrett, walker's opponent, while walker has had help from fellow governors. charles franklin, a pollster at marquette university school of law, says the rationale for those visits is clear. >> this seems to be a big deal nationally. why is that? >> i think the real reason is that the issues go across
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borders. these aren't just wisconsin issue. >> reporter: that helps explain why walker has raised $6 million just since april 24th and why two-thirds of that money has come from out of state donors who want his belt-tightening policy to prevail and spread. all told, almost $64 million has been spent on the race. and it's close. >> close enough that turnout could make all the difference on tuesday. >> reporter: and both sides are energized. while 2.1 million people voted in the election walker won in 2010, experts foresee as many as 2.8 million participating in this go-round. for "cbs this morning," i'm dean reynolds in chicago. time now to show you some of this morning's headlines from around the globe. "the wall street journal" says facebook wants to tap a new source of users, children under 13. the social network is developing technology that would connect children's accounts on their
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parents. they would be able to decide who their kids can "friend" and what applications they can use. "usa today" reports some states are looking at new ways to tax drivers. one popular idea, charging for how many miles they travel rather than how much gas they buy. the idea is to raise more money to repair damaged roads and bridges. and tiger woods' victory in memorial golf tournament is a big story in "the columbus dispatch." remarkable chip-in put woods on the lead sunday, now tied with jack nicklaus with 73 career pga victories.
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welcome back to "cbs this morning." i'm charlie rose. erica hill is in london. erica, what do you have coming up? >> charlie, i was kind of surprised to see the goodyear blimp going over buckingham palace. i didn't realize it made it over here. >> by the way, the background looks great. >> it's a beautiful shot. thank you. not too shabby being here at potter's field in london. just ahead from london, we'll bring you more of my interview with prime minister david cameron, and also sir tom jones, we sat down with him yesterday afternoon and took a lovely stroll in the rain. he'll be performing tonight as part of this grand concert for the queen in front of buckingham
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palace. we'll take you back to the garden you just saw a shot of, charlie d'agata is there with more on the festivities at the palace. >> a lot to look forward to. the man who says he shot and killed trayvon martin in self-defense is back behind bars this morning. george zimmerman turned himself in sunday, nearly 48 hours after a judge ordered him to surrender. mark strassmann is in orlando, florida. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, charlie. later today george zimmerman's legal team will file another motion asking for another bond hearing, hoping to spring him from jail yet again. they're going to argue in part that zimmerman has proved he's not a flight risk by voluntarily turning himself in for the second time. about 40 minutes before the court's sunday deadline, george zimmerman in handcuffs was escorted back into seminal county jail in sanford. >> he's quiet and cooperative. is he is being booked and processed per judge lester's order. he'll be held on a no-bond
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status. >> reporter: zimmerman will live alone for the foreseeable future in a 67 square foot jail can, separated from the jail's general population for his own safety. >> mr. zimmerman can't sit back -- >> reporter: last friday judge lester revoked zimmerman's bond. the judge believed the murder defendant and wife misled him never mentioning their online defense fund had raised $150,000. >> he can't sit back and obtain the benefits of a lower bond for circumstances based upon those material false hoods. >> reporter: the judge also ordered the release of state evidence kept from the public because of sensitivity concerns. the material could include zimmerman's original interview to police about shooting trayvon martin and jailhouse phone records, transcripts of conversation between zimmerman and his wife. prosecutors claim the couple talked in coded language about transferring money from their online defense fund and convinced judge lester the
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zimmermans lied to him. mark o'mara is zimmerman's lawyer. >> it's a credibility question with mr. zimmerman. now that credibility has been attacked or tarnished. and now he has to rehabilitate it. that's up to him. >> reporter: if judge lester grants the motion for another bond hearing, zimmerman could have explaining to do. he'll be asking for the benefit of the doubt from a judge who already feels lied to. >> thank you. if the judge refuses a new bail request, zimmerman could stay in jail until he goes on trial. that trial is not expected to begin until next year. we speak with his attorney, mark o'mara. good morning. >> good morning. >> there seems to be in the way you express that some tension between you and your client. is there? >> no, there's no tension. certainly there was some frustrations with realizing that what was i truly believe an oversight, or at least a mistake that they made, has now truly come to bear on mr. zimmerman directly with his inkarps rags. >> come to bear not only the
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fact he has to go back to jail but also his credibility as -- in terms of what he says? >> absolutely. i think the family made a mistake. i think it was out of fear and maybe some frustration with having their lives turned completely upside down and not having a good level of trust with anyone they were dealing with, but i think they realize it was a mistake. they look forward to clearing that up with judge lester. >> explain what you mean. the family, what, they thought they didn't have to do this or they thought they would be misrepresented? what? >> i truly want that explanation to go directly to the person who deserves it, judge lester, but not to sound coy, my understanding is that the family had been put upon with things thrown out of their house, their jobs, schools, other family members in hiding, for whatever reason they felt the need to protect some of that money for a very uncertain future. i think now they realize they should have simply trusted judge lester and the process to work with them fairly, even if they had not been treated fairly in
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the past. i think they'll clear that up with judge lester. >> you understand and appreciate the fact that the judge did the right thing by putting him back in jail? >> judge lester gave us a strong signal he and he alone runs the courtroom and everyone is going to tell the truth. i'm certain not only the zimmerman family but all other witnesses who come before judge lester had better tell the truth and nothing but the truth if they're going to be treated fairly. >> what will you say to him at the bond hearing? >> i think the zimmerman family needs to apologize to the court for having not giving him full information. i'm going to ask the court to rely on the fact that mr. zimmerman has, but for this event, treated the court fairly, treated the system fairly, surrendered himself now twice, he's of course voluntarily given the police department all of the statements they've wanted, he's involved in whatever testing the state has wanted or defense has wanted. i think he's doing everything he should do. i think they were acting out of fear and frustration but they don't have that luxury. >> mark o'mara, thank you for
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joining us this morning. now back to erica. >> thank you. the queen's jubilee festivities continue right here in london. boy, what an impressive tribute on the thames yesterday. of course, stretching the length, about seven miles here. we'll bring you more of that pageantry with one of our own who made it onto a boat. that's ahead. you're watching "cbs this morning." we're at the exclusive el chorro lodge in paradise valley, arizona, where tonight we switched their steaks with walmart's choice premium steak. it's a steakover! this is perfect. the meat is really good. one of the best filets i've had.
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here in london it is another busy day of celebrations. over here at potter's field, the rain has begun. the diamond jubilee marking queen elizabeth's 60 years on the throne. more than a million people lined the banks of the thames river yesterday, braving some nasty weather to watch a display of pageantry that was truly fit for a queen. mark phillips is with us, many
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braving it on the water yesterday. >> you might have thought that a thousand boats and a million people would have been enough of a celebration for one queen, but you'd be wrong. this is a four-day weekend, a four-day celebration, and not just here. ♪ >> reporter: not only is the celebration of the queen's jubilee going on for days, it's going on around the world. this bonfire beacon is one of many being lit today in the country in which the queen is head of state. she herself, once she presumably warms up from the prevails of yesterday, will light the last beacon in london tonight after another series of events. but everybody is still talking about the great river pageant that will be remembered as being as british a celebration as you royalty, nostalgia, tradition and terrible weather. nothing hasrks the wave of glor
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when brittania ruled with 1,000 boats and with the queen ahead of them. the royal barge was a converted river cruiser made fit for a queen but it's the thought that counts. >> we've got waterproof coats, trousers, we've got food. we've got good company. >> reporter: boy, did they have company. the crowd would stretch for miles along the riverbank and across its bridges was estimated at well over a million. if the weather was cold and wet, so much the better for demonstrating the quality the british so admire in themselves and the queen. this pageant was a very british event, even down to the weather. there hasn't been one like it in at least 150 years and may be that long before another. the inspiration for this pageant came from an old painting from this river pageant in 1700s. the river thames was then
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london's main street and for a day it was again. this celebration was about creating nostalgia for the future and supplied images galore. this four-day celebration is taking many forms. many would take this queen away from this year's biggest horse race. so epson derby day was day's events. for those not able to get to the big festivities, there have been hundreds of small ones, street parties held across the land. but what people will be talking about was this, the lasting image of an 86-year-old woman standing in the rain, watching the boats go by, and returning the tributes of her people. so, the jubilee pageant, the jubilee horse race, the jubilee street parties, tonight's the jubilee concert, the jubilee picnics, and tomorrow the jubilee church service, had enough yet? >> no. phillips.ike more, mark -
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so, the weather is kicking up here. i love in your piece you said the weather was very british, which seal to be the assessment to everybody yesterday. it wasn't a big deal. you were made to do this if you were british. >> it almost added to the occasion, the idea of through thick and then, carry on regardless. i thought the weather would, in fact, keep the crowds a little lower, below estimates. >> definitely not so. what was it like -- i mean, the spectacle and everything on the river, which had to be incredible. was it as cold and wet as i imagined? >> no, it was colder and wetter than you imagined, but we were warmed by her majesty's presence. no, it was -- for all that happened and all the weather that happened and what have you, just one of the things people will be talking about. if it had been a bright, sunny day it would have been nice. the fact it was a lousy day made it even more of an event for people that came out and have a good time. >> the queen stood the entire ride. wouldn't go inside or even have a it up of tea. >> wouldn't step in. >> nice to see you in person.
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one person who is watching all of these events very closely is london's mayor, boris johnson. he actually made the trip down the thames yesterday with some members of the royal family but we caught up with him just before he boarded the boat for a little history lesson. >> reporter: you were recent saying the monarchy is a great unifier of the nation. for those in the u.s. that may not understand, give us context. >> in 1776 you made a tragic mistake to descend with the sovereign. that was the way america chose to go. but i do think it's fascinating that the idea of a constitutional monarchy remains central. it's something that brings people together. the monarchy is above politics. incarnates the history of the nation, unifies the country, gives people a contact with their history. >> in our next hour we'll visit with the great tom jones, sir
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♪ it's 8:00. welcome back to "cbs this morning." i'm charlie rose. gayle king is off today. some say she's been spotted in paris but may be back. erica hill is in london, covering the diamond jubilee for us. i'm here in new york. erica, good morning. >> charlie, good morning to you. i tried to see gayle across the thames, but i couldn't find her. >> partying, i heard. >> we told you earlier -- gayle? i don't know about that. we told you earlier the jubilee comes at a time when britain is struggling with severe economic problems. we spoke with prime minister david cameron on sunday, sat down with him actually just befoe the launch of the royal pageant on the thames. he says the anniversary, despite
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the economy, is still worth celebrating. cameron would not answer any questions from us about the economy or about the uprising in syria. he wanted to focus solely on the queen. >> reporter: we often in the united states refer to britain as our greatest allies. we know what your role is as prime minister. give us the sense of the importance of the role of the queen in this equation. >> i think she's hugely admired. especially here in the united kingdom where we're celebrating 60 years on the throne. an incredible record. but she's seen as a great symbol of britain around the world, particularly in the united states, where i know there's a lot of respect for the institution of the british monarchy and the way she's conducted herself in particular. 60 years, and i don't think anyone can think of a foot she's put wrong. incredible service and dedication. i see it as prime minister, have hourly audiences wih her every week. and her knowledge and insight into particularly international affairs, where she's traveled more widely probably more than
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anyone else on earth and knows heads of state, governments, issues in different countries very, very well. >> reporter: the weekly meeting you have, and we know the contents of that is very closely guarded -- >> no one else in the room. a predecessor of mine said it was probably the only private meeting he ever had because just the two of you. the task of the prime minister is to map through the problems in the world and her majesty, the queen, who's listened to 11 prime ministers beforer me, starting with winston churchill so she's heard it all before, seen it all before, but does have tremendous reserves of knowledge and also great british common sense. >> reporter: you mention you lay out the issues for her, but as you're painting the picture, it is sometimes the queen laying out for you, perhaps, what she would recommend as a course of action. >> she knows that must be the role of elected government, but she has great insights and great
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knowledge, through all the conversations she's had over the years. so asks brilliant questions that make you think. i think that's a really good role. i mean, many countries will find their own ways to have that mixture of stability and democracy that we all cherish. in america you have the constitution, something that you revere. in britain we don't really have a constitution, not a written constitution, but we have this combination of monarchy and elected democracy that works so well for us. >> reporter: approval for the monarchy seems to be clearly at a high right now. you walk on the street, it seems every building and every person is draped in union jack, celebrating these four days here. with the economy dipping back into recession, was there ever a concern about the optics of this celebration? >> i think the british people are very good at understanding the difficulties that a country and an economy can face when you've got this debt problem and debt issues all over the world. also, we're quietly spoken.
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when there really is something to celebrate, and i think 60 years of service from our monarch, there really is something to celebrate and we do it properly. that's what you see. i represent a constituency in rural areas, and going through this morning with flags, every village doing its own thing, having different events. you can see a great wellspring of enthusiasm for the monarchy and for the queen personally. people know there's something to celebrate, even during difficult economic times. >> reporter: what is one of your fondest memories of the queen? >> i suppose the memory i will always hold closest is when you become prime minister, you drive into buckingham palace, you go and see the queen and she asks you to form a government. and you never forget that moment. obviously, in my situation where i was trying to form a coalition government, i had to for the first time ever say something when a prime minister said to the queen, i'll do my best at
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forming a government. i'll tell you how i get on. but that's the exact moment i'll always treasure. just watching her do her job around the world, i often look and see just this incredible devotion and professionalism and think, how does she keep it up? >> reporter: you're about to join her on the flotilla. were you kerpd about the weather or classic british weather? >> it's obviously sad we don't have the sunshine, but that's th way our weather works. we just carry on. >> reporter: thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> erica, nice conversation. you took -- it took place at 10 downing? >> it did. >> tell me about going there because it's interesting, 10 downing and 11 downing, where the chancellor live, are right next to each other. what happens when you go there and how do you get to see the prime minister? >> they are right next to one another. you literally, which is kind of
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funny for us in the u.s., to go through the security checkpoint before you walk down half a block to 10 downing. then you walk up to the door and knock and they open the door and let you in. which is not something that you would imagine. you hand them your phone -- >> i'm david, hi. >> he didn't answer the door. what was interesting, and you kind of -- you told me about this before i left, but 11 downing and 10 downing are right next to one another, and sometimes they use the door to 11 downing but they actually broke through the building so they're connected. we were walking around waiting to find a spot to do the interview. we were talking with one of the people that works with the prime minister. they said, do you see this doorway? this is where finally a little while ago, people decide instead of going out and around, why don't we connect the two buildings? >> good idea. you know what amazes me about this whole weekend is the queen stood up for the entire journey, which is extraordinary to me and
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shows some sense of her wanting to connect to the people of britain. >> i think you put it very well, charlie, in that she does want to connect with them. one thing you'll hear over and over is about the queen's very intense sense of duty, her duty to the british people but also her duty to her job essentially to her role as the queen. it's something she takes very serously. so, despite the weather, she was going to stand out there and wave to the millions plus people who lined the thames.
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♪ richard dawson yelled "survey says" so many times and with such enthusiasm is became a catch-phrase. dawson died sunday at a los angeles hospital. he was 79. as lee cowan reports, he became a game show legend with a kiss and a smile. >> the star of "family feud," richard dawson! >> reporter: say what you will be his trademark freaky suits and the good luck kisses, and there were a lot of those. richard dawson seemed to have more fun hosting "family feud" than the contestants did playing. >> survey said! >> reporter: his energy was unstoppable. even "saturday night live" took note of that. >> can we cut the condescending crap and play a game? >> whatever you say, joe. okay. >> reporter: all kidding aside
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for a kid born in england who moved to america to become a comedian, he did pretty well. as the corporal in "hogan's heroes," dawson came in as dismisses ive brit, held captain at stalig 13. his quit wit made him a favorite on game shows long before he became that well-dressed ref on "family feud." "match game" he was just as popular. >> i swear on my life, eight was my answer. now please -- >> reporter: he never took himself too seriously. he didn't even seem to mind parodying himself with arnold schwarzenegger in "the running man". >> i'll be back. >> only in a rerun. >> reporter: even playing a sadistic game show host, he was somehow charming. when asked two years ago why he kissed all those women all those years ago, it wasn't vanity, he said, it was something much bigger. >> if we only were a little
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nicer to each other, i just think it would make the world a better place. >> reporter: dawson's battle with cancer ended over the weekend. out of all the questions he asked contestants over his career, for that there was no easy answer. for "cbs this morning," i'm lee cowan in new york. >> lee cowan on richard dawson. the phrase olympic games may remind you of this summer's big sporting event in london. david sanger says it's the code name for a top effort to topple iran's nuclear effort. we'll talk about his new revealing book on "cbs this morning." all multivitamins give me the basics. they claim to be complete. only centrum goes beyond. providing more than just the essential nutrients, so i'm at my best. centrum. always your most complete.
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method to disrupt potential security threats. president obama has made cyber warfare centerpiece of his military strategy. david sanger, chief washington correspondent for "the new york times" is revealing important facts about that program. his new book is called "confront and conceal: obama's secret war and surprising use of american power." welcome. >> nice to be here. >> we've been waiting for this book. let's get a sense of what you call the obama doctrine and how this president micromanages foreign policy. >> well, the doctrine itself, charlie, is that when there is a direct threat to the united states, it seems that president obama is as willing or more willing than president bush was to use force. think of the bin laden raid. think of olympic games, which was aimed at the iranian -- >> but bush started some of that and built on it. >> he did.
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and he doubled down and tripled down. the difference is when there's sort of a general good out there of something the united states would normally have taken the lead on or moved in to deal with very firmly, president obama usually hangs back a bit and says, i want the countries that have more direct interest at stake to go in and either take the lead or have skin in the game. think libya. think of the paralysis on syria where the u.s. has not stepped in and no one else really has either. >> so, what is the obama doctrine then? >> the doctrine is we only use force when there's a direct threat to the united states. and then when you do it, it's only in this very lightfoot print way, where you go in with the drones, with the cyber. you do your work and you get out. no more occupations, no more long wars. and i think this is -- you know, this is a big political element as well. the country is clearly tired of these wars where we spend a trillion dollars occupying a
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country and the country resents our presence. >> people come to criticize not you, not the book but the fact that the obama administration, according to senator mccain from singapore where he was attending a conference, obama's administration, they accused him of leaking details of a reported psycher attack in iran and other operations to bolster the president's image in an election year. >> i'm sure there are people on the political side of the white house who are perfectly happy to hear about the president sitting in the situation room calling on drone strikes or trying to figure out -- >> and choosing targets. >> choosing targets or figuring out what kind of cyber weapons you could use. i can only tell you my experience, which was this was an 18-month investigation that began after the stuxnet virus. i pulled on that string. i worked from the bottom up. this is not something where someone from the white house says, why don't you drop by and we'll tell you about our program. that doesn't happen.
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>> move me to olympic games and what that is. it was a very successful operation, question, was it and does it continue? >> we think it does continue. however, its success is a matter of some debate. it began in the bush administration when president bush recognized he was tied down in iraq and afghanistan. wasn't going to be able to take military action against iran. he needed another way. both the military and intelligence officials came to him and said, we have a very risky experimental policy, which is that you send a beacon into the computers that control the nuclear enrichment fuel, you create a blueprint of what that plant looks like and then send a worm in that would basically destabilize the centrifuges that run at supersonic speed and make them blow up. >> and the messages go crazy. >> it took several years to build the beacon, they tested
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the thing, they brought it in on repeated occasion. for the first few years, iranians had no idea there was a worm. they weren't sure -- >> not much time. israelis were involved in this with the united states? >> deeply involved and wrote much of the code and may have written the mistaken part of the code that allowed the stuxnet to be seen by the world. >> so that's a negative for this program. >> that was when the program ran into trouble. the book actually opens with leon panetta and others going into the sit room saying, with do we have to kill this project? they kept it going. >> this book has a lot of interesting information. "confront and conceal: obama's secret war and surprising use of american power" by david sanger. it's now on sale. st. paul cathedral has been a look of hope and stability for more than 300 years. we'll look how it's getting ready for its role in the queen's diamond jubilee. all of that is coming up.
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and choose two more large sides free. today tastes so good. ♪ welcome back to "cbs this morning." i'm charlie rose in studio 57. erica hill is in london. erica? >> did you hear that, charlie? >>dy. what was that sound? >> well, i don't know if you can actually see it in my shot but tower bridge is just opening up behind us. >> i can see it. >> i think it's sort of announcing it's going through the bridge. that's my guess, as a mariner. yeah. not my strong suit. charlie, though, when you think of some of the great symbols of this city there's, of course, tower bridge, tower of london over that way, and also buckingham palace where charlie
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d'agata is. he's been looking at the proud and long history of another magnificent building. >> reporter: here behind buckingham palace. that's a rare treat. the reason we're here behind the palace is because out front some of the main acts of today's jubilee are warming up. first, we have to go to st. paul's cathedral. we were given special access to speak to some people responsible for staging tomorrow's main event. it's been the setting for some of the most important moments in british history. designed by master architect, christopher wren, st. paul's cathedral was the centerpiece of a new london after much of the old one was destroyed in the great fire of 1666. it's where they held the funeral for winston churchill. it's where prince charles and diana were married. and it's where the queen celebrated her silver and her golden jubilees.
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the majestic cathedral, close to the heart of her majesty. now they're getting ready to raise the roof of st. paul's once again in celebration of her diamond jubilee. the man tasked with bringing joyful noise to the 85,000 square foot building is director of music, andrew carwood. ♪ >> reporter: he personally auditions, recruits and coaches the little boys with the big voices. ♪ >> reporter: but just because he's looking for choir boys, it doesn't mean they need to be little angels. >> there's a sort of "x" factor you need as well. it's hard to pick. a little sparkle in the eyes, a little naughtiness, a child who wants to do something loud and will be inspired by it.
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>> reporter: inspiration isn't too hard to find. these halls are a study in elegance and a lesson in here in the american memorial chapel is the scroll containing the names of more than 28,000 americans who gave their lives on the way to britain or while serving here during world war ii. a conflict in which the cathedral itself almost became a casualty of war. a target for hitler's bombers in 1940 during the blitz. taken by herbert mason of "the daily mail" this photograph became one of the most iconic images of the second world war, st. paul standing proud while london burns. >> it's a miracle it survived. >> it was. partly because some remarkable men and women who acted as watchmen who were fire watchers and who moved in at the risk of their lives very quickly when bombs did drop in the area, so a
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lot of bravery and a lot of courage saved st. paul's. >> reporter: for tomorrow's festivities, the queen and the cathedral are working together, on every last detail, every verse read and every note sung requires the royal seal of approval. >> we work very closely, of course, with buckingham palace. the queen takes these things very importantly. the queen's faith is re important. she wouldn't have just signed it off. she would have read it and see if the music and readings we suggested spoke to her personally. >> one and two -- >> reporter: the weight of history and sense of occasion needs to be carefully nurtured in its young stars. ♪ >> there's an old saying in the music world you're only as good as your last performance. so, that's what people remember. you may be fabulous but someone comes along, hears when you're not very good, that's all it takes. ♪
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>> if you can inspire them and get them the right way, they will just flourish and they will perform fabulously. ♪ >> reporter: and speaking of fabulous performances, we're expecting some big ones tonight. on center stage at queen's jubilee concert, elton john, stevie wonder, tom jones, they'll all be there, and so will i. >> must be nice. yes, i hear you have a ticket. very fancy, charlie dallas d'agata. there will be something for people who actually won tickets to the concert beforehand and that's basically where you are right now. >> reporter: yes. later this afternoon there are going to be 12,000 people here, people that have been invited. they put their names in a lottery and they're treated to the queen's diamond jubilee picnic with their very own picnic basket.
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and on the menu, we've got scottish salmon jubilee chicken, strawberry crumble crunch, and no british picnic would be complete without a deluxe waterproof poncho. >> let's not forget, it also wouldn't be complete without their choice of either a beer or glass of champagne. you can see where my focus is. thanks, charlie. >> reporter: and that comes with it. thank you. you can expect different music at tonight's jubilee concert. we will hear from sir tom jones, just one of the many big names on stage tonight as we continue our coverage f [ male announcer ] olympic tennis players bob and mike bryan
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as hundreds of newspapers and magazines struggle to survive "the new yorker" is doing just fine, thank you very much. it has more than 1 million print subscribers and another 270,000 digital readers. pulitzer prize winning author david remnick has been the managing editor for 14 years.
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welcome, sir. 14 years. how have you changed and how has the magazine changed? >> i've gotten wiser, charlie. >> have you really? >> what's changed is the digital future for the magazine and it's an add-on. the print magazine is incredibly healthy in all ways but we've gotten many, many more readers. before we admired and not read in certain places, abroad, for example. england, india -- >> i want to stay away from that for a second. i want to come to what you've done to meet the digital future, but the magazine itself, what you want this magazine to be in its essence, whether red digitally or like this. >> i want it to be in many ways what it's always been, which is about depth and beauty and spending a lot of time on particular stories. this is something that's very rare. you know, the internet is extremely rich and extremely varied, but the number of places people are spending more than a few minutes or a few hours, much less days and months on a story,
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and getting to the kind of story that david sanger just talked about, takes time. it takes -- and it takes money. in journalistic terms that's what we're all about, and we're about fiction and serious criticism and being funny. >> and about editors, too. >> yes, curation is the cliche word, but editing. >> is it the dream job for you? >> it's absolutely fantastic. fantastic. >> how do you continue to write these books like the obama book? >> that's pretty rare. that was maybe an experiment too far. i wrote -- i've written one real book in 14 years of being editor. i spend 99% of my time editing. once this a while as a holiday i come back to write. >> i promise to come back to this digital essence. russia today, a country you know well, but yet if russia would do something, syria might change. >> russia's interest, the least
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sentimentme sentimental of countries. largest arm sales are to syria and foothold to the middle east is through syria. the slad meyer putin getty dewy-eyed -- >> and the president, are you satisfied in terms of the man that you wrote about, the man we've seen as president? >> well, in some ways yes, in some ways no. i find the parading -- to me it was a pure leak story in "the times" and "newsweek" and elsewhere about the kill list and he's riding neiber and -- >> leaked by the white house. >> oh, completely. have you to know how to read stories a certain way. i found this distasteful. you know, there are many things about the administration editor that are upsetting to me. >> like? >> lack of any movement on the environment, which is in many ways question number one, our global future. it's been pushed off into the
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side. but i think there's enormous frustration, legitimate frustration of the administration with congress, which has been totally dedicated to the defeat of barack obama. that's priority number one, two, and three. the effect on our economy is very clear. >> turning to the magazine, are you on facebook? >> yes. oh, as an individual? >> yes. >> because i don't need another place to get man you vipts but the magazine is very much on facebook and twitter and all the available social media outlets. >> and on ipad? >> ipad we found 50,000 additional new readers and hundreds of thousands of our readers read it in both ways. >> you still have a pay wall? >> on the -- >> do you have a pay wall? >> yes. you cannot -- look, as i said, you cannot get these stories for free. so, i cannot give you everything on the internet for free and make you think, well "the new yorker" is something that comes out of the faucet. and i think the newspapers made a big mistake saying it's all
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for free and reap it back in web add vr tiesing. that never happened sufficiently and all newspaper hs to reverse their decision. >> the idea the genie was out of the bottle that you can never go back, can you go back and say, have you to pay for this, that's the only way to survive and we can't give you the quality you want without paying for it. >> i'll say this. i think the publications on web, on digital platforms and in print, that people really want are going to survive and thrive. "the new yorker" is something people have proven over and over is something they really want. they want it in different forms sometimes. soon you'll be able to read it entirely on your hand-held. is that the absolute best way to read it? >> no. >> for some people maybe if they're in a subway car -- i've seen people read a dickens novel on a hand-held. god love them.
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>> but doesn't do that. >> no. but my commute is short. >> the magazine is called, obviously "the new yorker." it is a wonderful magazine. you can get it in many forms. we going back to erica in london. >> charlie, thanks. he sold over 100 million records but bei ining inviteknighted by queen was a major highlight. he talks about his adoration for the imagine jesy and his performance tonight.
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♪ beautiful london there, as & seen from the sky. tom jones, sir tom jones, was las vegas nobility for decades but he became the real thing when queen elizabeth dubbed him
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a knight of the british empire in 2006. sir tom performs tonight at a star-studded concert for the queen as jubilee. fellow knights, sir elton john and paul mccartney will be there. we talked about that and his long storied career. >> when you get a royal wedding or you get what's going to happen tomorrow, a jubilee, is & that it brings people together. you see happiness on people's faces. >> reporter: for nearly as long as queen elizabeth has occupied the british throne, tom jones has occupied the hearts of the british people. you performed for the queen a number of times. is there anything different, though, about the diamond jubilee? >> it's a once in a lifetime thing. to start with. i was there ten years ago, i did the -- at the back of buckingham palace. now this is in the front. so, we made it to the front door. no, it was very exciting. it's a wonderful thing.
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>> reporter: and you've been knighted. >> and i've been knighted. >> reporter: what is that experience like? >> fantastic. they told me i was being considered for knighthood, which i -- unbelievable. it shook me up a little bit to begin with, until i actually went to buckingham palace and then the queen knighted me. once i felt the sword on my shoulders, it was all over. it all came to reality. and it was a wonderful feeling and still is. it's a great honor. >> reporter: does the queen say anything to you in those moment? >> yeah. she said, you've given people a lot of pleasure for many years. and i said, well, i've had a lot of pleasure doing it, your majesty. and she said, well, i'm sure you have. her face lit up when she was speaking to me, and i like that. you know, i put a smile on her face. >> reporter: that's a good thing, especially when it's the queen. but she's a tom jones fan. >> i hope so.
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she's never said that but i think so. >> reporter: the queen would be in good company. jones has sold more than 100 million albums in his nearly 50-year career. >> there i was on british television with the peoples and the storms and the british. i was on those shows with them, top of the pops, and then i went to america in the same year to do an "ed sullivan show." five in all. and i was meeting elvis presley and franc sinatra and sammy davis. you know, i thought, my god, and it happened very quickly. i was meeting these people early. so i thought, wow, you know, i haven't just broken through. i've, like, pow, exploded. ♪ treat a lady >> reporter: before long the sound of a welsh coal miner was the toast of las vegas. his sound, style and moves forever linked with sin city. i read in a recent interview you
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said you ort of got tarnished with a certain vegasy image that probably didn't do you any favors. >> i was having a great time. i might are been a little too outrageous, i don't know. you know, with my persona. so, sometimes things happen without you realizing it and you get tagged with certain thing. i think my image overshadowed my talent. >> reporter: do you think he would be where you are now had you not gone through all that? >> no. you have to experience things. you should learn from it and by it and add to it. i mean, i've become a better singer. yeah, i think you have to live in order to sing certain songs. >> reporter: jones' new album "spirit in the room" reflects that philosophy. the collection of strip down soulful covers offering a window into an artist clearly entering his best stage yet.
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tower song, the lyrics in that, which seem to be fitting in many ways. >> yes. i wouldn't have been able to sing it 40 or 50 years ago. i started -- ♪ my friend are gone my hair is gray ♪ >> there are things i can sing now that i maybe wouldn't have been so important or would have rang so true years ago. not the ones i'm doing now, you know, so there's a feeling of accomplishment when you've been in the business for any length of time. the feeling is slightly different to what it was when you first start. but i'm exploring all the time. i'm always learning. i don't think -- you're never too old to learn about music and explore different parts of your voice that maybe i haven't done before like the andy cohen song says. there's still wonderful things
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to experience. ♪ i'll be speaking to you sweetly from a window in the town of soul ♪ >> it was a really lovely afternoon, charlie. one of the things -- the other things that stood out to me is his son mark is his manager, has been for a number of years. they have a close relationship. they're more like brothers. he really trusts him. i asked him about his upbringing. the son of a coal miner from south wales and he said he grew up in this tight-knit family. so many live near him. and he really believes it's so important to have that love. i think that really helps him a lot in his life, to be so loved as a child, which i thought was lovely. >> one quick question for you, what has been the highlight for you? >> wondering what the heck is next? no, it's all been wonderful. it was a pleasure to meet the prime minister, to speak with the mayor, to speak with sir tom jones and so much more to. come i can't answer that question until wednesday morning. >> tomorrow, up next, your local
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