good morning. it is wednesday, june 20, 2012. welcome to studio 57 at the cbs broadcast center. i'm charlie rose. gayle king is off ka. jerry sandusky's wife stands by her man. now the former coach could take his turn on the witness stand today. i'm erica hill. he is one of the rising stars of the republican party. now marco rubio is at the center of attention in the mitt romney veep stakes. my conversation with alec baldwin, the actor defends himself over accusations he punched a photographer and talks about his long standing feud with the paparazzi. we begin with today's "eye

opener -- your world in 90 seconds." >> jerry sandusky expected to take the stand in his own defense. >> sandusky's wife dottie took the stand and she said she didn't witness any sexual abuse. >> a grown up soaping up a little boy late at night in a shower. that doesn't seem unusual. >> no. he was like a father figure to these kids. he helped them take a shower. >> marco rubio is being thoroughly vetted as part of the process. >> denied reports rubio was not on the storied list of vp candidates. >> i get a kick out of some of the speculation that goes on. i'm not going to comment on the process. hosni mubarak is on life support which follows an earlier report the ousted egyptian president is clinically dead. >> while a massive protest erupts in cairo as to who will

follow him. a florida woman tries to clear her name after complaining about a tsa pat down. >> police on the hunt for the reese's fan. snarl for the camera. did actor alec baldwin assault a "daily news" photographer. >> if i'm slugging a photographer out in front frt courthouse, i'm dumb, but i'm not that dumb. >> and all that matters. >> i don't want to answer that question. >> on cbs "this morning. arson rnn romney's horse no advances to the summer olympics. welcome to cbs "this

morning." we may hear from jerry sandusky shortly testifying in his own defense. >> the judge said defense lawyers could rest their case as soon as today. the star witness tuesday was sandusky's wife dottie, his wife of 45 years. armen keteyian is at the courthouse in belfont. >> reporter: this could be a very big day for jerry sandusky who is expected to testify in his own defense, adding a huge dose of drama to a trial his attorney yesterday called a soap opera. as the trial speeds toward a dramatic conclusion perhaps as early as this weekend, the defense played some of its biggest cards, calling a parade of strong character witnesses, questioning the tactics of key police investigators an putting sandusky's wife on the stand. dressed in a lime green outfit and speaking in a soft, sometimes nervous voice, dottie sandusky testified she saw no sign of sexual abuse of young

boys by her husband of 45 years. time and time again defense attorney joe amendola repeated the same question -- did you ever see any inappropriate conduct. each an every time dottie sandusky simply answered no. did you ever hear a young man yell for help, asked amendola referring to one alleged victim's store of graphic abuse in the basement of the sandusky home? again she answered -- no. during cross examination lead prosecutor asked what reason would any of those people lie about anything. after a long pause, do thecy sandusky said i don't know what it would be. earlier two state troopers told defense attorneys they did not lead potential accusers by telling them what other alleged victims said. but amendola produced a transcript, then a tape of the interview, where one officer tells alleged victim four -- we

all know there's a way he operates, leading to oral sex. by no means are you alone. defense will likely call its final witness today. the jury will likely get this case tomorrow. it will be sequestered until it reaches a decision. cbs news legal analyst jack ford joins us now. how effective was miss sandusky. >> you're never sure. some witnesses can be good, parts of witnesses can be good. one, she rebutted some of the allegations by some of the accusers here. she said the basement wasn't soundproof, there weren't people down there with him for hours on end. she never heard anybody screaming at all. those are important facts. but she also tended to humanize it. the prosecution has been demonizing jerry discuaerry san through this whole trial.

all the defense has to do is raise the question even in the mind of one jury, you get a hung jury -- that's a win. i think they're hoping will say 45 years, she said nothing ever happened here, i don't know. that's what they hope they might get from a yore. >> we also heard yesterday from the psychologist the defense put on, talking about this histrionic personality disorder. >> this is not an insanity defense. insanity defense requires you to say yes i did it but here's why, i was criminally insane. this is an attempt by the defense to try to explain away some of these awkward situations, specifically what were described as creepy love let some of the accusers said sent to him. i think the defense is saying if we can get jurors to look at this in a different way, come off of the child pervert view of him -- maybe he's odd, awkward and maybe has something else going on here but at least it gives the defense the opportunity to argue something other than violent sexual

pervert. >> so should he take the stand now? >> boy, charlie. i us a thought that he kind of had to and i still think that. i know it is a hard decision. there's some disagreement in the defense camp, as a matter of fact. i wouldn't be surprised to see him taking the stand. although, after having heard his wife's testimony and psychologist's testimony, they might look at this and say we got all the best we could get in here without the downside of him being on the stand. but it sounds to me as if he's going to. >> thank you, jack. president obama is back in washington this morning after the g-20 economic summit which was dom nat natured by the european debt crisis. before leaving, mr. obama said he's confident european leaders will find a solution. >> i don't want to sound pollyannaish here. resolving the issues in europe is difficult. changing market psychology is very difficult.

but the tools are available. the sense of urgency among the leaders is clear. so what we have do is combine that sense of urgency with the tools that are available and bridge them in a timely fashion that can provide markets confidence. >> mitt romney's certainly for a running mate is heating up. on wednesday the republican challenger denied reports that one prominent name, florida senator marco rubio is not on his last. as jan crawford reports, it is an issue romney would rather not talk about. jan, good morning. >> good morning, charlie. listen -- the vice president pick is the first big decision voters will see from the presidential nominee and in a close race it could really make a difference because it can be so important, the contenders are always kept secret. presidential campaigns, as you know, just don't talk about

who's on their short list until they have to, and that is where mitt romney found himself yesterday. throughout tuesday, the story picked up steam. florida senator marco rubio reportedly was not being vetted as romney's running mate. a favorite of conservatives and a fund-raising force, rubio deflected questions. >> i'm not commenting on the vice presidential process. i just don't talk about the process at all. >> reporter: finally romney had enough. late tuesday he broke his silence to confirm that rubio was in fact on his short list. >> the story was entirely false. marco rubio is being thoroughly vetted as part of our process. >> reporter: romney also had this caution for reporters. those who talk don't know, and those who know don't talk. >> there are only two people in this country who know who are being vetted and who are not -- that's beth myers and myself. >> reporter: that's romney's

former chief of stuff who is running the vp process. >> and i know beth well -- she doesn't talk to anybody. >> reporter: on his five-day bus tour, romney campaigned with several possible contenders. in new hampshire he scooped ice cream with former minnesota governor tim pawlenty. in ohio, the romneys served pancakes to hundreds with senator rob portman and his wife pouring syrup. in a textile mill in wisconsin, he got a warm welcome from congressman paul ryan. there are other prospects -- south dakota senator john thune and louisiana governor bobby jindal. they weren't on the bus tour but on the campaign trail. sources tell me rubio is a long shot and if you are betting, you should probably put your money on portman or pawlenty. >> let's bring in cbs news

political director john dickerson. so why was it necessary in this case for governor romney to say he is being vetted? because he's not going to simply go through this process with every potential vice presidential pick. >> that's right. marco rubio though is kind of a special case. marco rubio, whether he's actually picked or not, is politically beneficial for governor romney for a number of reasons. he's quite popular in the republican party, he can help him raise money and particularly he's popular in florida. that's obviously a key battleground state. also hispanic voters with whom governor romney has a big problem, marco rubio's not going to help him a great deal with hispanic voters but he helps him some. particularly in light of the president's recent decision on young children of illegal immigrants, you want marco rubio also in the confers associated with mitt romney. saying he's being vetted cleans that up, puts them close together even though he may never be the ultimate pick.

>> is there any reason specifically he would in the pick marco rubio? >> well, we don't know what's in mitt romney's head but if we look at what he said about what he had's want in his vice presidential pick, he wants somebody that would be ready to take over the office. one of the criteria governor romney has campaigned on in the last presidential race and in this one -- you need executive experience, not just experience but executive experience making decisions. marco rubio has more experience indeed than barack obama has but he has no executive experience. if he had to pinpoint one thing, that would be hurdle for marco rubio. >> how important at the end of the day is the person that mitt romney picks in terms of helping romney win the race? >> well, the political scientists say in the end it is actually not that much of a help. i think that's probably right. you can cause yourself some excitement sometimes with your presidential pick but that can also kind of run out after a while. i think in the end it is the

person at the top of the ticket you want at number two who sort of underlines your themes if you're the presidential candidate. but there's not a whole lot that a vice presidential pick can give you. most political scientists and those who watch these races say lyndon johnson was the last vice president presidential pick who really helped a presidential candidate. >> one report this morning says tim pawlenty's doing well is because he's comfortable with governor romney and he's low maintenance. >> he's good on the stump, he has a good personal story, sort of pulled himself up by his bootstraps which could help romney with those blue collar voters republicans do well with. but romney zroent any great connection so pawlenty could be helpful in those areas. we'll speak with senator rubio in our next half-hour. egypt's former president hosni mubarak is clinging to life in a cairo hospital this morning. latest reports say he is in a

coma. egypt is in the middle of a national power struggle with growing political unrest. >> reporter: former egyptian president hosni mubarak is said to be in a coma but no longer on life support. reports from the military hospital where he was taken last night from prison say that his heart and other functions are normal but he is in a coma. there have been conflicting reports about the state of mubarak's health. some even said he was on a life support system because he had had heart attacks, strokes, fluid on the lungs, and was on the point of dying but he would still appear to be alive. when news of his deteriorating health was given to protesters in tahrir square, there was a cheer, then they basically moved on to other matters. as far as they're concerned, mubarak is dead and has been for some time because he's no longer part of the political process.

there's also confusion over who is going to be the new president. both contenders claim now that they actually won more than 50% of the vote. official results are due tomorrow but may be delayed. conspiracy theorists blame that on mubarak's deteriorating health. on capitol hill, a house committee is due to vote today on finding attorney general eric holder in contempt of congress. holder has refused the oversight and government reform committee's demand for documents from the controversial fast and furious gun running operation first exposed by cbs news. committee chairman darrel issa says a last had-minute meeting on tuesday went nowhere. >> it is ultimately the attorney general who is the custodian of the documents we wish to receive and that's why the contempt cites him. we would hope that the president would ask his attorney general to be more cooperative. >> nancy cordes is on capitol

hill. what's happening here? >> reporter: republicans say holder is not giving them the documents they need to investigate whether the department of justice covered up its involvement in fast and furious or tried to silence whistle blowers after a u.s. border agent was killed in arizona and two guns that had been lost as part of the program were found at the scene. attorney general holder says there's no evidence of a coverup, that he's already provided 7,600 pages worth of documents, that this is essentially a republican fishing expedition. so he had an ultimatum of his own for issa -- i'll give you more documents if you agree to drop the subpoenas against me. >> i have to say, given the extraordinary nature of the offer that we made and given the extraordinary way in which we have shared materials to date, i think we are actually involved more in political gamesmanship as opposed to trying to get the information they say they want. >> reporter: so unless someone blinks this morning, this

contempt vote is going to go ahead in the committee. if it passes, then it would go to the house floor. if it passes in the house, it would come to the senate, but the senate is controlled by democrats so it's likely that the move would die there. >> nancy cordes, thank you so much. there are dueling accusation this morning after alec baldwin was accused of punching a "new york daily news" photographer after a confrontation in lower manhattan. a few hours later i spoke with baldwin about it. he says he did not hit anyone. >> the guy -- there was a person in front of me that was blocking him. he lunged and almost hit me in the teeth with the lens of the camera. so i pushed him away. they all screamed like they're political prisoners, john malkovich said. they all scream like political prisoners. i don't want to take our valuable time with this, but in this business, in the modern

era, all of us, we make appointments with the press. this is an appointment with the press. we make ourselves available as an obligation per our contract to our employers to represent the product and help to sell the product. and when i walk out the door, that's over. when the guy jumps out of the bushes with a camera and tries to take a picture of my kid, they want to say to you here's another appointment you have with the press. >> we'll hear more from alec baldwin in the next half-hour. he and penelope cruz will discuss the downside of being famous. state and local government's are taking in more tax dollars but spending less. "usa today" reports state and location the spending has hit the lowest point since the '80s. britain's kwl telegraph" report wickky leak's founder julian assange is asking for political asylum.

the new orleans times pick unisays the govern baptist convention made history yesterday choosing the first-ever african-american president. he said his election is the example of the southern baptist commitment to diversity. the "los angeles times" reports asia has more millionaires than north america are for the first time ever. china, japan and other asian countries now have about 20,000 more millionaires than the u.s. and canada. north america though still has more total assets coming in at $11.4 trillion. it is the first day of summer around it is going to feel like it. here on much of the east coast, forecasters are predicting record breaking temperatures approaching triple digits. philadelphia, new york and boston are bracing for that ddas heat compounded

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welcome back to cbs "this morning." mitt romney says florida senator marco rubio is being vetted as a potential running mate in the presidential election. romney says reports that rubio is out of the running are "entirely false." >> senator rubio is now with us from washington. he's just published a memoir called "an american son." senator rubio, good morning. >> good morning, guys. thanks for having me. >> when you heard these reports that you were not being vetted, were you already being vetted? >> i've made a decision a long time ago not to discuss the process. that's not going to change today. i respect the process that governor romney's going through.

i'm pretty confident he's going to make an excellent choice. i think those of us involved in politics and supportive of him should give him the space to do that that. that's the decision i made a while back to just not comment on the process. but i knew you'd ask. >> indeed. so the question is what happens when you're vetted? you get a questionnaire? what else do they do?& >> i'm not going to discuss the process. i have a new book out. don't even know if you've heard about it though. >> allow me to talk about the book, then come back to some political questions. what do we learn from this memoir, "an american son," about you that might be instructive to understanding you and your political life? and the things that made you who you are. >> the book is largely the story of my family and how many of the conclusions i reached and the opportunity i had are the direct result of experiences they made and had so long ago. obviously i think there are a lot of other people out there

that have similar stories. one of the things i hope is that by telling my story i can pay tribute to america because i realize i've had opportunities that my parents should have had but didn't because they didn't have the blessing that i had to be born and raised here in this country. there are also some things that i think will be applicable for people of my generation in terms of the life/work balance. i talk openly in the book how i worry about sometimes i don't get that right. i share mistakes that i've made, decisions i made a while back while i started out in politics that i wish i had done differently because i would have avoided a lot of headaches for myself. i hope that's something people will look at as well. finally, i hope people out there thinking about an endeavor, whether politics or business and being told they can't win, would read the story of an example of someone who was told that once, came to believe it for a while, got discouraged -- and now have the honor to serve in the senate. >> "american son" suggests it is about immigration. the president has proposed some

new ruse about what he thinks immigration reform ought to be. do you approve and support what the president has said? >> well, i view that issue the way i outlined in the book -- that is that immigration is a difficult issue. both sides oversimplify it sometimes. on one hand it is torn to recognize these are human being whose stories we should have compassion for especially young people who came here through no fault of their own. by the same token we have a broken immigration system and a very serious illegal immigration problem. any solution to that problem -- whether the kids who have been here or people who have overstayed visa -- that's a balanced approach. i know it is going to be welcome news for these kids desperate for a solution, i think by ignore rg the constitution and the congress, it is going to make it harder for us to come up with the kind of balanced solution i and others were working on. >> mitt romney has refused to say whether or not he'd reverse

the policy of the president. do you know why he's not answering this question directly? >> i have not had a conversation with him since the president's decision came out. from what i read in his public comments, they echo things i have said which is these kids and their circumstances -- these are young people who came when they're 5 years old, lived here their whole life, valedictorians of their school? it doesn't seem right to deport them. there needs to be a long-term solution. we're going to continue to work on this. i think it is going to make it harder to do it before the election because we've lost some of the sense of urgency. i hope i'm wrong but let's see. >> but is it reasonable to say that governor romney's positions on immigration as expressed in the campaign are at odds with your own deep feelings about immigration in this country?

>> no, i don't think that's true either. what i have said sim's a big supporter of a legal immigration system. we need to remind everybody that a million people a year immigrate to the u.s. legally. no other country in the worls comes close to that. there are 50 million people or so waiting to come into this country. we get hundreds of people a year in our offices who are asking for help because their relatives have been waiting in line doing it the right way. what do we tell them? come illegally? it is cheaper and quicker? on the other hand, if you meet some of these folks, your heart breaks because they're doing what most of us would be doing if we were in the same situation. that has to be balanced in the way that takes into account the human element of the story but also we are a pro-legal immigration party, we are a pro-legal immigration nation. i think that's what mitt romney has consistency said since the primaries have really gotten going. >> sounds like you agree with what the president is doing, you'd just like to see the congress do it. >> i think there's no secret

that we were working on a plan to help accommodate these kids. it was much more comprehensive much more detail in terms of some of the unintended consequences of this policy. what i fear is that by politicizing this issue, by linking this issue to election year politics, it is now going to get harder to do the kind of balanced, reasonable approach that these kids deserve. i actually discussed that in the book and i wrote it well before this decision was made. >> there is a lot of talk about what can and what cannot get done in washington these days. former governor jeb bush who i know you're close with spoke with charlie with the need for a grand bargain or compromise. seems we always hear both sides pointing the finger. wouldn't this be a good opportunity to step up and be perhaps the person or party who starts to do away with the obstructionism even if it may seem like that's contrary? >> i think there's always room for compromise on ideas. what's much harder to compromise

on are principles. today we have two parties so far apart on principles, what the role of government is in america and the world, it is difficult to have a compromise. that has to be decided in an election. in many ways that's what this election is about. i do talk about in my book a lack of urgency. especially at the end of the book if you read it, you'll see it talks a lot about the sense that there is no urgency in washington. irrespective of where you fall on these issues, there's no sense of urgency, for example, in the senate about tax reform, regulatory reform, long-term debt, the lack of an energy policy. wish there was more urgency, irrespective of how you feel about these issues so we can have the debate people deserve. >> why don't people in washington feel that urgency? can you help that in any way if you're there and you talk about it? >> sure. that's why i do shows like thi , hoping to prod people, it is having the willingness to deal with the issue. in my speeches and private

conversations i hear back, let's get through election cycle. then things will be easier to get done. i hear that on issue after issue. the probably is there's always the next election psyccycle. >> senator rubio, the republican senate majority leader, mitch mcconnell, was on this program and he said he's in favor of a grand bargain and that he also thinks it has to do with enti e entitlement cuts as well as revenue. are you in favor of the same thing your leader is in favor of in the senate? >> i'm certainly in favor of additional revenue to the government. that's not the debate. debate is how do you get the revenue to government. i think you get it through growth. many on the left bleesh yelievet it through higher tax rates. i think if our economy grows, that generates more revenue. i believe we need more tax tears, not more taxes. that's the only way. growing our economy is the only

way you'll get a grip on this debt. can you not tax or simply cut your way out of this situation. you've got to grow your way out of this, then have the fiscal discipline to make sure that that revenue is not being used to add more to the debt. >> senator marco rubio, thank you for your time this morning. the book again is called if you think your doctor's prescribng too many antibiotics, you could just refuse to take them. but there may still be antibiotics in your food.

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a former tsa agent who was flying from ft. meyers, florida a month ago was a patdown she found intrusive. she demonstrated to her former supervisor how she was touched. now the former agent is facing misdemeanor battery charges for the hands-on display. meat on drugs is the provocative title of the new consumer report's campaign focusing on antibiotics in the food supply. >> the meat and poultry business is america's number one user of antibiotics. the new report argues that public health is being put at risk. "consumer reports'" director of consumer safety is here. so tell me about antibiotics. how does it get in the food

supply? >> well, we use actually 80% of the antibiotics we use per year in this country on animal reproduction. the misuse of antibiotics is leading to this public crisis that we have now which is bacteria are becoming more resistant to antibiotics making it harder to treat diseases in people. you should use antibiotics for treating diseases but do you need to feed it to healthy animals every day to promote growth and prevent disease in we don't think so. >> so therefore, when farmers use it, you would do what? >> when farmers use it, they use it to promote growth. they use it to keep healthy animals healthy, especially in industrial scale confined animal feed operations. but it is really sort of an artificial system. what we don't see going on is the bacteria on the farm becoming more and more resistant. when that goes downstream and as consumers are exposed to that later on, they can get a disease

that's resistant to being treated by antibiotics and it can become harder and harder to theet troes diseases in people. >> so it is not necessarily the issue with the antibiotics in the meat that we're eating but more the broader effect. >> that's right. primary issue is not the antibiotic on the meat. we have withdrawal periods. there should be minimal residues. may be somewhat of a problem but the main problem is what's happening on the farm to the bacteria and later on down the stream. >> so you did this study. you sent your secret shoppers out to hundreds of different stores to look at different meats. if you're concerned about this, can you buy antibiotic-free meat? >> yeah. we actually visited 136 different stores in 23 states and we looked at over 1,000 products in those stores that were marketed as being raised without antibiotics. so it is available in many stores. it's not available in some stores. but what our consumer poll showed is that 86% of consumers want to be able to purchase meat

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it's 8:00. welcome back to krcbs "this morning." we reported earlier how the "new york daily news" reported alec baldwin punched one of its photographers. baldwin says the photographer was the aggressors and that he was simply defending himself. >> baldwin wrote on twitter, the photographer almost hit me in the face this morning. yesterday after that incident i spoke with baldwin about his new movie and actress penelope cruz with a with him, co-starring in

the woody allen movie, it is about the issues involved with being famous. here's part of that conversation. >> when you have an incident like you did, is it because you get upset somebody's invading your privacy? >> the guy almost hit me with a camera. >> what happened? >> there was a person in front of me blocking him. guy lunged and he almost hit me in the teeth with the lens of the camera. so i just push the guy away. my favorite line was john malkovich. he said they all scream like they're political prisoners. >> paparazzi. >> yeah. he said they all scream like political prisoners. i don't want to take our valuable time with this, but in this business, in the modern era, we make appointments with the press. this is an appointment with the press. we make ourselves available as an obligation per our contract to our employers to represent the product and help to sell the product. when i walk out the door, that's over. i don't have -- when i guy jumps out of the bushes with a camera and tries to take a picture of my kid, they want to say to you,

here's another appointment you have with the press. >> don't get me started on this -- >> she and her husband are huge victims of this at home. correct? >> but i think it is good to talk about this. i think it is good to talk about this. this movie also talks about this subject, of fame. other day woody was saying another interest things about it. they asked him. he was saying, okay, if you have to choose, some of the advantages of being famous are great. i get great tickets at basketball. great table at the restaurant. but woody has been in both sides of it. he knows what it is. he knows how to deal with the difficulties of it. but somebody ask me and i said, yeah, i agree with him that the advantages are very unfair but the disadvantages are also extremely unfair. i don't get if somebody takes my pictures. by as alec was saying, it has to be on mutual agreement. it isn't. okay.

i can't deal with that when they're out there and take my picture. when it is about children, when there is not a law protecting the privacy of children, it drives me crazy. and until there is a law, like there is in many countries in europe, there is nothing you can do. you can't complain about it. but there has to be a law to protect the children so that those children can go to school and can be one more in the class. they don't have to be the daughter or the son of so and so. because it really changes the dynamic. don't you think? >> yeah, i think so. but i think to finish that, i love doing this kind of stuff under the right circumstances. this is a joy to be in a group of people and it is different and you go and do letterman. we all have our favorites. we all have the ones we like to do more than others. but this thing in the public, it's tough because the press and the instant social network twitter age, people think that i'm out there just decking photographers willy-nilly, nothing could be further from the truth.

i'm in front of a courthouse, the place is crawling with cops. >> you were getting your marriage license. >> if i'm slugging a photographer out in front of the courthouse, i'm dumb, but i'm not that dumb. there must have been ten cops right there on the block. but they do -- this is a guy who had baited me before. he camped out this front of my house. they've done this before. so i was stalked recently by a woman. you ignore it -- i'll tell you a story and just end with this. you ignore this. many, many years ago i was friend with an actor who he was dating in its infancy -- earlierest parts -- rebecca schafer. who got shot in the doorway by her stalker. so we minimize these invasions in our lives until one day it is not advisable. so sometimes i do draw the line myself. i say to somebody, put that camera down or we're going to have -- >> do you think more that they know it may make you angry the more likely they want to do --

>> that's the sean penn syndrome where they come after you and they know you're going to take the bait and come after you. they say i hit him with my fist. that's absolutely untrue. when i do these things -- the legitimate press, i respect them and i can't wait to do these kinds of things. i want to help sell the movie. especially with somebody like woody. >> i would like to say you come here because you like the show. >> in a world where we have a job to do, these are the ones we like to do. some we like to do a little bit less. but these illegitimate people out ought to be deported to some island. >> what was it that you tweeted about this? >> i don't remember now. >> oh, something. just one last moment about this. it is one thing but, it is also about your kid, too. protecting them. >> it would be interesting to

hear somebody complain about this and the way the world is now, to hear some actor say, what are you complaining about? i understand that. but i'm not -- i never complain about it for myself. but i've seen it with many children or friends that do the same job and when it's about children, this is not a game. this is a serious thing. i mean that law exists in so many other places. there is a reason for that. but not here. >> and you think you need more protection here. >> it's obvious. it's not something create for us. it is like basic needs that are human being needs. >> if they want a picture of you -- for example, i live here. she lives in europe. we're here and they follow you around. what's unusual, tomorrow we have a red carpet for woody's movie. they could take all the pictures of her that they want to or whoever tomorrow. we're there, by appointment, tomorrow. but yet they have to follow you around all day and harass you.

>> we do these like ten days in a row and we do press for every country. we are very happy do it because we want to support the movie. yeah, of course i love you show, this is part of our job. there are many other shows that maybe i don't love but we have to do it because we have to sell the movie. this is part of our skrob. you have to have a few hours in the day that are just for you and for your family. >> but another aspect is that also with the social media and twitter is that you have people who -- if you're outspoken politically, let's just say -- >> let's say for the sake of argument and you don't mind expressing it and you are very vocal and you have your political opposition. they get on the internet, within 30 minutes the misrepresentation of the story is out there. by your political opponent. you go on twitter, fox nation says baldwin punches photographer. not true. and that's the thing that i find the most difficult.

because in the world we live in where our reputations are a component of what we do -- i mean there's your work and your craft and whatever -- there's your reputation is a part of what you do. we're no different than other people, which is to be wrongly accused of is something is one of the most painful things can you deal with, for someone to something say abouting that isn't true and to disseminate something far and wide about you that isn't true. they say things but and it spreads like a wildfire. before you know it -- i'll walk down the street and have something happen and i'll walk in the door -- i'm not kidding. this is like a woody allen movie. i'd love woody to do a movie about the internet and social media. my doorman would look like you and go -- i'm awful sorry, mr. baldwin. i read on the internet that you had that -- you know, with that -- whatever. that thing with that guy down in -- you know.

you clocked that guy down by the courthouse. not very smart, mr. baldwin. not very smart. cops everywhere, courthouse. you might have waited until you got a couple blocks away or behind the hot dog stand maybe. >> the u.p.s. guy getting out of the truck, mr. baldwin, not too smart. >> that was funny part of it. but it is a serious conversation. what's interesting, they do acknowledge the benefits of fame which are many. but at the same time, her legitimate concern -- and it is different in europe about her children. she has a new child, as we know -- and the sense of sometimes the altercations that take place and you never really know exactly what sets what person off and you can't figure out exactly what might have happened to not have had that happen. >> it is also scary when you think about children. i went to a matinee of a performance in new york city just a couple of months ago and suri cruise was there with her

mother, katie holmes. got there right after to meet a friend. she told me the rush of photographers and people surrounding this poor little girl and her mother coming in. yes, some of it comes with it but this is a 5, 6-year-old child. you imagine how scary it must be, even if you grow up with it, to have that rush of people constantly around you? there needs to be some consideration for children. >> at the same time, people look at those of us in the public eye and they say don't be complaining too much. you have a real opportunity -- >> sure. >> -- to use the public platform to

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good morning. more people than ever are watching tv shows and movies not on tv -- but online. last month the video service hulu had nearly 26 million viewers. >> hulu has 2 million pay subscribers and that's creating its own programs. ceo jason kyler is with us now to talk about the future of the television business. welcome.

in the interest of full disclosure, i should say that my program is on hulu. but for the benefit of the audience, what is hulu and what does it mean and where did you get the name? >> so i'll start with the last one first which is the name hulu is actually a mandarin word. it comes from a parable that describes hulu as the holder of precious things. we thought it would be a great name for the company because we're all about premium video, precious video. so that's where the name comes from. what hul summit an online video service that lets you watch what you want, how you want and when you want it. that's what motivates us. >> who is your competition? >> anyone or anything that competes for screen time. when people make decisions about watching something on a screen, that's competition. >> why would i go to hulu rather than go to, say, cbs.com? >> in that particular case the real value for hulu is aggregation. you can get content from over 380 different content partners.

obviously appeals on a big way. >> you are saying the benefit is not just one network on one website but a number of different choices. >> exactly. >> what what does it cost? people are used to getting things for freon line? >> of course. we have two services. the original hulu service is free and app supported. a relatively new service is hulu-plus which allows you to access great content on any device and that's a subscription fee. >> where are people watching it? once you convince people to pay for it, which is the great hurdle in many ways, do they watch more on, say, an ipad, smartphone, their pc? >> so it's interesting. it's changed a lot over the last 18 months since we launched that service. the pc originally was the single biggest use case. now you seem gaming consoles being a big deal, xbox, the nintendo, wii. tablets are coming on strong as

well. last category is as a matter of fact phones. >> here's what you also get. you guys -- meaning you, hulu, netflix -- are not only aggregating, you're now going to produce programming for hulu. >> that's right. yes. so we actually just launched earlier this year our first scripted series called "battleground." it was so fun because on my way in here somebody who works for the program was gushing about how great the show was and so you're absolutely right, we are producing a number of original series for hulu. >> two questions about the world we live in today. beam are going to watch television from now how? >> so i think that the most important thing about the future of television is that it is going to be personalized and so when you turn on a screen, it is going to be a very unique experience for you versus erica's experience. >> but are we going to turn on an ipad or whatever the competition is for an ipad? smartphone? on a big screen at our home? where is the predominant place to watch video? >> i think the predominant place is going to be sitting in a living room. i do think that ultimately is going to account for the most minutes.

but it is not going to matter because television can be in your pocket with a smartphone. it can be up on a wall. it can be in a little tablet. >> you think the networks will worry about you? >> when i talk to a lot of folks in the industry, at the end of the day content producers have confidence in their content and the notion that there's more places to distribute their content is good news. >> i tell you who is worried -- advertisers are worried when they see machines that can allow people to skip the advertising. >> absolutely. and they should be. if you're an advertiser, you care about two things -- one, how do you get your message out to a lot of people and how do you do it effectively. >> but you also rely on ads for that free service. does that concern you at all in. >> for us, we're in a very good spot because you can't skip through the modest amount of advertising on hulu. for us, we're actually a big friend of madison avenue and it allows us to keep the service free for consumers. >> jason, thank you very much for being here. we'll talk about katherine allen's hugely successful career

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good morning, las vegas. welcome back to cbs "this morning." a rather bizarre moment on the air happened monday night. the rangers tv announcer dave barnett stumbled mid game. take a listen. >> 2-1 game. tying run at second. lead off single.

go-ahead run is at fifth. on what adams is insisting on calling it a botched robbery. actually happened was his hinchman took a piece literally -- >> you just heard him say a runner was on fifth base. he mentioned a botched robbery and henchman. officials say a migraine may explain his confusion. we wish him a speed ya recovery. fine restaurants in restaurant to san diego, california will soon make it illegal because of animal cruelty concerns. fans are rushing to gets it while they still can. >> reporter: mike the is one of the hottest young chefs in l.a. his top chef winner is about to lose one of his favorite foods db. >> the first time you taste it, it like changes you.

you eat it and you just like -- wow. i can't even talk about it or put it into words. it's that type of ingredient that you just -- it's just good. >> reporter: he's talking about the expensive french delicacy made from fattened duck livers. voltaggio serves it as his signature waffle. >> it's so delicious and scrumptious. >> it's the flavor that really makes it. >> reporter: across town, this chef is trying to keep up with the foie feeding frenzy. his restaurant has been slammed because california is banning foie on the first of july. >> creamy flavor, that rich texture, it's just amazing. >> reporter: well, not these people. >> animal cruelty's got to go! >> reporter: protesters are packed in front of citrin's doors. >> if you would close your big ignorant mouth long enough to hear the answer --

>> reporter: and all ready for a foie fight. >> eat somewhere else instead! >> reporter: animal rights activist calls this the delicacy of despair because ducks and geese are usually force-fed corn to fatten their livers to make foie gras. >> it is one of the most cruel things. >> reporter: the law was pushed in the california legislature, it was backed by some chefs including golf gang puing wolfg. >> i'm banning putting tubes down ducks' and geese' throats and forcing food their their esophagus. that's what i'm banning. i don't have to see it to know that. >> reporter: the biggest impact is on the one family in california that actually makes this product. here at this farm near stockton. how many ducks did you used to have out here?

>> in this orchard? there used to be about 30,000. >> 30,000 ducks. >> reporter: he's been making foie gras here for 36 years. he's now out of a job. are you angry? >> no, i'm not angry. i'm sad. i'm sad and i'm offended. >> reporter: offended because he says people don't understand how foie is made. he says the feeding mimics the gorging the animals do in the wild before they migrate. they have no gag reflex and can store a lot of food in their esophagus before digesting it. >> the key to obtain the best results is to take the best care of the animals from day one until the last day. >> reporter: the last days are now here for guillermo and his wife's business. they say the new law forced them to shut down. back at his restaurant, michael

volt voltaggio hypocritical. >> i don't know any animal enjoys the process that it goes through from being out in a field to ending up on someone's plate. >> reporter: diners in california have just 11 days before this particular duck dish disappears. for cbs "this morning," ben tracy, los angeles. >> renowned chef jose andreas is an outspoken advocate for improved health and nutrition. good morning. >> good morning. >> tell me what you think of this ban and what -- are we making too much out of it? >> well, i think we should let the legislators to start taking care of what's happening in the economy in california and not getting into something like is that the right thing, that liver the right thing or that liver not the right thing. it is very funny to me that no

legislator has driven to the farm to see how actually at that farm operates and you cannot be legislating without knowing. so this is the first thing that i don't think is right. come on, guys. if you're going to be moving forward something, first you have to have all the knowledge before you are going to be moving something so important. >> california's not the only state though that has been concerned. other countries have been concerned. >> correct. countries like israel, or countries like argentina. but come on, i mean we've been eating foie gras for over 2,000 years. the way these farmers are taking care of their ducks today has improved dramatically over the last 20 years. so here what we are doing is punishing farmers that freely are taking care of those animals like never before. so i'm saying, let's get to the table, let's talk, let's be rational but let's not ban

something. why? because if we ban ducks right now, guys, start forgetting our chickens, start forgetting our turkeys on thanksgiving and about your hot dogs and burgers on the fourth of july. this is what's behind this law. it's something kind of very dark. the foie is like an issue for groups that are trying to ban almost everything. >> do you think they're trying to ban almost any meat but there have been legitimate concerns about the way food has been processed in this country. you heard the chef say there's probably not any animal that enjoy the process from the farm to the plate. are there other areas you think should be looked at? chicken, for example? veal? >> sure, no. what we are seeing is that the food industry is working very, very, very hard to improve the food that us humans eat and also to improve the living conditions that every single animal that we eat, you know, come on. at the end of the day we are killing every one of those

animals. i mean if you are saying that the way we treat the duck is kind of inhumane, guys, what do you think the way we are killing them at the end of the process? come on. we are at the top of the chain and we are eating animals. i think the farmers are improving the way they're taking care of those ducks and i don't think that should be the reason to ban. what we should be doing is talking and by talking we can move this issue forward. but banning things is not a way to be moving forward this issue. >> some people would say, as you know, that you're simply voicing your pocketbook. >> well, you know, this is a very short way to see it. because right now with this ban, i'm not an economist but i know that we're going to have hundreds, if not thousands of people losing their jobs because this ban. you know, i don't think we should be having legislators putting people out of business, out of jobs, especially in the moment. what we need in america is to be taking care of the people, to be taking care of job creation, to

be taking care of growing the economy. so something like this to me is very sad, especially in california where we have so many issues with the economy. >> just one last quick question for you, chef. do you nind find it at all crue way some of these animals are force fed to create that foie gras. >> okay, i'm going to be answering you with -- i've been to those farms, i've been to the hudson valley, i've been to new york. i see how the farmers, they've been taking care of those ducks. i've been in spain on a beautiful farm in the southwest part of spain that farmers are really changing and improving the methods of feeding those ducks. me, i have no issue. we've been doing this for thousands of years and to me we have bigger issues in americans like making sure children are not hungry, creating jobs, et cetera, et cetera. that's the real issues to me. i don't think that we are doing something wrong to those animals. actually, when i go to those

farms, the only thing i see is very happy ducks. very happy chickens, very happy porks and things are improving day by day. >> a happy duck and chicken. thank you. >> see you soon. >> all right. >> jose andres, nice to see you. for many victims of domestic violence a dog is a woman's best friend. this morning, we'll show you how one woman and her great dane are helping other victims sta

every day battered women go to domestic violence shelters in this country, but sometimes they do not stay because they're not allowed to keep their pets. >> that was the rule at a shelter in kansas city until one victim and her heroic dog needed help. as michelle miller reports, those rules have now changed and so has the shelter. >> what was going through your mind? >> reporter: the woman at the podium -- we'll call her mckenzie -- is out of focus to protect her identity. >> when your life is being

threatened and you're in that situation, you don't think. >> reporter: her life could depend on it. >> just make it through the next blow, just make it through the next second. >> reporter: it's already been saved once by her 140-pound great dane. he protected her from a brutal attack at the hands of her boyfriend. >> he grabbed me by my shirt and put me through the wall. >> threw you into the wall. >> no. through the wall. literally drywall, boards, nails, to the other side. >> reporter: hearing the commotion, the dog came to investigate. >> and my boyfriend goes in to hit me and he laid on top of me. >> reporter: he absorbed the blows meant for mckenzie. frustrated her attacker, picked up the heroic canine and threw him off the porch. then led him to this busy intersection and left him.

mckenzie would escape. she rushed to this police station. cops sent her to a women's shelter, the rosebrook center. but mckenzie was thinking of j. matthew. >> i said let me go get my dog and we'll come back. they said, well, we really don't accept dogs. i say, we'll drive out of town and just go stay at a rest stop. >> what is it about this dog that you were not going to part with? >> the fact that he saved my life. how could i not save him? how could i walk away from him? >> mckenzie's not alone. as many as 40% of battered women say they don't leave abusive situations because they're afraid to leave their pets behind. >> just like so many of us who are pet lovers, j. matthew is her family, her safe place and her child. >> reporter: susan miller is the rosebrook center ceo. >> what could we do?

we made an exception and i must say, we're glad we did. >> reporter: the center broke its own no-pets policy and welcomed them both in. >> it was just great to see the bonding that they had, the healing process that they went through together. it really made us realize that this was something that we needed to do that we needed to provide this opportunity for women to bring their pets. >> reporter: and so they did. unveiling last week a brand-new pet kennel, adjacent to the center. they dedicated it to mckenzie and jay matthew. how rewarding is it knowing that your story helped to create a place where pets are allowed? >> it is awesome. it is -- it is amazing. >> reporter: but the kennel is more than just an accommodation to pets. it is a potential life saver. >> to be able to know that a woman will no longer have to make that choice, that they will either have to try and get safe

or have to abandon their pet, it's worth everything. >> there's no doubt in your mind that this new pet policy will save lives? >> absolutely none. no doubt. this pet shelter is life. >> michelle miller is with us now. you know you're here with two big dog lovers. this is a fantastic story. how are mckenzie and jay matthew doing today? >> they're doing great. though mckenzie doesn't have a full-time job, she is working steady. she spent 60 days -- 90 days in the shelter and is now out and the great thing is that jay matthew now is a dog of valor. deemed such by the u.s. humane society. >> what happens to mckenzie's attack sf attacker? >> he spent 60 days on probation, sentenced to 60 days of probation and is now free. one of the reasons why we had to protect mckenzie's identity. >> michelle, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> kathy ireland says she made a

journey from the beach to the boardroom. cover girl-turned ceo is here to show us how a different business model changed her life.

kathy ireland has always had determination. she went from the cover of "sports illustrated" swimsuit issue to the cover of "forbes" magazine. >> she's now ceo and chief designer of kathy ireland worldwide, a $2 billion retail empire that started 20 years ago with socks. pleased to have her with us now. welcome. >> thank you. >> so how did you do it? >> that's a great question. a lot of times people i think wonder why and how. i entered the modeling industry as a business person already, as a designer. designed as a child. my mom made dresses. i made coordinating accessories and jewelry.

we sold them at the beach. modeling for me was really an education and exposed me to the best designers in the world. it was college in many ways. and i often felt more like a spy learning the industry and the trade secrets rather than a model. >> but i mean to build a $2 billion empire requires some remarkable skills, i would assume. >> i think it's all about people and if i have any skill, i think it's being a good judge of people and really building relationships. some say it was counterintuitive building our brand with a single pair of socks. we were able to grow our brand beneath the radar for a long time until "forbes," wwd licensed global magazine outed our brand. i think one of the reasons we were able to be so discrete is our distribution, our foundation

as the independent retailer. typically independent retailers don't have large ad budgets. so while others were buying awareness, we were building relationships one at a time. >> so obviously a lot of the air wearness though comes from your name. yet you said that maybe this would have been a little bit different and perhaps you would have been looked at differently if you weren't a model first. do you think you would have initially had more respect as a ceo if you didn't have that background? >> there are times when i think if i showed up pat a business meeting with my stretch and my designs, my business plan in hand, without that extra preconception that people have -- and when women say, well it's easy for you, you have a-month-olding background -- i say you've got a clean slate, can you build your brand from the ground up with a clean slate and that's a perfect way to go. that anonymity is really priceless. >> did warren buffett advise to you go into home furnishings? >> we began in the home industry with flooring, with our partners at shaw industry and it is part

of berkshire hathaway, also nebraska furniture mart. it was one of our first retail partners. something that he said early on was, fashion and apparel, it cycles so quickly. in home it's more consistent. i listened carefully. it's good advice and i love working with great mentors. >> good person to listen to. >> if you have to listen to somebody about business, that's a good place to start. so where do you want this to go? what are your dreams? >> with the elasticity of our mission that began with finding solutions for families, especially business moms, it's expanded to finding solutions for people in love, finding solutions for people in business. there are always solutions that our clients need. our brand is not perfect. i'm certainly not. our philosophy is life is messy. but if we can bring some beauty, if we can bring some solutions, that is what we're looking to do, working with great people. i'm here in new york this week with the antidefamation league.

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