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everybody. good morning. it is friday, june 22nd, 2012. welcome to studio 57 at the cbs news broadcast center. jerry sandusky's fate is in the hands of the jury but it is the bombshell allegation they did not get to hear that's making news this morning. plus, stocks tank and major banks get downgraded. should you be worried about wall street's bad day? i'm erica hill. details of the secret summit between mitt romney and dozens of major donors. plus, a bullied bus monitor. jim axelrod is there when the father of one of the bullies comes to apologize. but first, as we do every morning, we begin with a look at today's "eye opener." your world in 90 seconds.
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captioning funded by cbs a jury deliberates jerry sandusky's future as new allegations surface from his past. >> a bombshell. this time it is jerry sandusky's own adopted son. >> 33-year-old matt sandusky claims he was, too, a victim of abuse. >> and he was ready to testify at his trial. >> i know before the trial matt was for him, at end of of the trial matt was against him. that doesn't say much about his stability. mitt romney trying to convince voters about his stance on immigration policy since the president's executive order. >> i'm going to address the problem of illegal immigration in a civil and resolute manner. >> under political views he says -- it's complicated. stocks posted their worst day in three weeks thursday. moody's credit rating agency after a four-month review -- >> lowered the credit rating of 15 of the world's biggest banks, including america's top five. taliban insurgents killed 18 people north of kabul.
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>> after a 12-hour standoff with security forces. the miami heat are once again nba champions. >> this is a dream come true for me. it's about damn time! a man posing as an art buff makes off with a painting worth $150,000. you having fun here? >> not really. >> why? >> too much [ bleep ], man. >> oh, that? you go to college, it's chicks ahoy. hosni mubarak. his lawyer now says his condition is stable. >> whenever you see him, he's just on a bed wearing sunglasses. maybe he died weeks ago and the egyptian military is just pulling a weekend at hosni's thing. temperatures are still sweltering. >> it's hot. why not get rid of the sleeves. they're so des brat from air conditioning, some of them actually started going into the theater to see "rock of ages."
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welcome to cbs "this morning." . the jury at the jerry sandusky trial goes back to work this morning after its first day of deliberations ran late into the night. the sequestered panel does not know about an explosive new allegation by one of sandusky's sons. >> according to his lawyers, matt sandusky says he is a victim of abuse by his adopted father. armine ka t! armen keteyian is outside the courthouse in bellefonte. >> reporter: matt sandusky, the youngest adopted child of jerry and dottie sandusky, late last week contacted the prosecution to allege that he, too, had been abused as a young boy by jerry sandusky. now 33, matt sandusky was prepared to testify for the prosecution as a rebuttal witness if jerry sandusky had taken the stand in his own
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defense. his voice fueled with passion, defense attorney joe amendola argued sandusky himself was the victim. painted as a monster by accusers, targeted by alleged victims, motivated by money. dishonest police investigators, the media, and a commonwealth desperate to take down a famous football coach. the system decided mr. sandusky was guilty, he said, and the system set out to convict him. over 72 emotional minutes, amendola took what he saw as cracks in the case -- inconsistencies, lack of physical evidence, no allegations of abuse before 1998 and built a mosaic of reasonable doubt. "folks, it doesn't add up. it makes no sense," he said. "all of a sudden, out of the blue, in his mid 50s, jerry sandusky decides to become a pedophile? does that make any sense to anybody?" in his closing, lead prosecutor joseph mcgettigan dismissed amendola's construction as nothing more than conspiracy theories. he then methodically reviewed
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the testimony of eight alleged victims detailing what he called a litany of depravity, a full spectrum of predatory behavior. amendola ended his poem was mother teresa, one he says sandusky asked him to read. included the line, "what you spend your life building, someone can destroy overnight but you keep building." in the middle of his closing, mcgettigan walked towards sandusky and said, "i feel like i have ten pieces of ten souls in my body, childhoods ravaged, memories destroyed, incinerated by this pedophile." he was standing directly behind the defendant when he left the jury with these final words -- "give him the justice he deserves." the jury is seven women and five men deliberated for about 7 1/2 hours yesterday before retiring last night around 9:45 p.m. they will begin today again at 9:00 a.m. right behind me inside courtroom number two.
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charlie? erica? >> cbs news legal analyst jack ford has been following this case since the beginning. good morning. what do you make of this latest twist of the story with matt sandusky? >> what's interesting, obviously it is a compelling story, but just because matt sandusky said he was prepared to testify doesn't mean the court would have allowed him to testify. that might sound strange to people, but here's why. generally speaking -- remember, he's not part of this indictment. he's not part of the charges against jerry sandusky. generally speaking the law doesn't allow testimony about other bad acts to come in to a case if it's not part of the indictment in the charges. that might sound strange, again, to people because the inclination is, well, if he did something wrong before, chances are he did something wrong this time. the law says you can't decide a case that way, it has to be decided on the facts of this case, not whether you are a good guy or bad guy. there are some exceptions. one is that if this other bad act can show it is a pattern of conduct here -- i'm sure that's what the prosecution would have
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argued, pattern of conduct. but i'm certain the defense would have said -- and i think the judge would listen to it very carefully. judge does a balancing test, deciding if the probative value is outweighed by the prejudicial impact of this. i'm sure the defense would say, there can't be anything more prejudicial than at the end of the trial, surprise to everybody, the adopted son of the defendant comes in and says, now i want to testify that i was abused. my guess is the judge would have done that balancing test and said, i'm not so sure that i can allow this to come in. now, there's one other exception. this is like a law school final exam for you two. i'm collecting papers after this and will check your grade. one other way it can get in. jerry sandusky gets on the stand and says not only did i not have anything to do with this, i never abused anybody before in my life. then -- the judge might have allowed matt sandusky to get on the stand and say, yes, did he abuse me. then tell the jury -- limited purpose -- only whether or not
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it affects his credibility. you can't use it to say did he it to his adopted son so he probably did it to these guys. >> 48 counts. how quickly could we see a verdict? >> these people will take a lot of time, will be very careful. case went very quickly but you have to believe they will take a lot of time. they know it is a high-profile case and that a lot of people are watching them. you never know how long it will take a jury to deliberate. >> jack ford, thanks. this looks to be the last day of a record breaking heat wave here on the east coast. a lot of people happy to hear that. more heat warnings and dvisories are out there this morning from delaware to new jersey. washington, philadelphia, new york and boston expected to see high temperatures again today. today could be in the 90s. a cold front is forecast though to finally bring a little relief by the weekend. investors are watching wall street this morning after moody's investors service lowered the credit rating of 15 major banks. citi group and bank of america were downgraded to just two steps above junk status. the downgrade was announced after wall street's worst loss in three weeks.
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the dow jones industrials fell 250 points, or 2%, on thursday. with us, bloomberg's bill cohen, author of "money and power -- how goldman sachs came to rule the world." good morning. what do you make of this downgrade? >> i may be one of the only people in america that actually read through the downgrade document. what they're saying is that wall street is still a risky place. any big bank that is in the business of capital markets making markets for stocks and bonds and underwriting derivatives and securities is still at a risk for failing. then in this document, they list like 25 famous wall street firms that have gone out of business in the last 25 years, and basically they're saying, hey, this could happen again. to which i say -- hey, thanks for that. how about five years ago it would have been nice for you to tell me that. some people on wall street are saying, look, you're too in the rear-view mirror, moody's. how about what's going forward? because we have more capital now than we've ever had as a result of this crisis, we've been
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forced to have more capital, we're in a safer business than we used to be. look what happened to mf global, jpmorgan, six months ago, so wall street is still a risky place. >> if someone at home is watching this and seeing this story in today's papers dwob they say, perhaps i should be worried because i thought we were passed what happened in 2008 but maybe there's more risk than i imagined? >> well, the question is do they want to be a creditor of a wall street firm. i think for the person at home, this is going to trickle down slowly, but surely, unfortunately, as everything does, because it is going to cost more for these firms to do business. their cost of capital is going up. their cost of doing business is going up. and if they make loans to small businesses, then that's going to cost those businesses more because they're going to try to recoup their capital costs by loaning out their money to new firms. but basically most people at home won't notice any change by
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this. >> one thing people probably have been noticing, the price of gas has dropped. oil is at a very low level. if we end on a bright note here, can we expect gas prices to drop throughout the summer? >> absolutely. as we know they track very quickly on the way up, prices at the pump go up very instantly. but on the way down, it is much slower. i'm forecasting by the fall prices will start to come down. it should be much faster. oil companies are really raking it in now as a result of this. >> bill cohen, thank you. mitt romney is hosting dozens of republican heavy hitters this weekend for a meeting of the minds. as jan crawford reports, they are focusing on how to win the white house. jan, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, erica yesterday romney gave this big speech on immigration. he's kind of hoping to make inroads with hispanics. that's the group that tends to vote democratic and went big for president obama. but today it's all different. he's going to be with his big supporters, and like you said, some big-time donors. romney reached out thursday to a
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group of voters that could decide the election. telling latino officials from around the country the president isn't delivering on his old campaign promises, and they have options. >> i believe he's taking your vote for granted. you do have an alternative. >> reporter: but today, romney switches gears as he heads to park city, utah for a meeting with top republican leaders and donors. the three-day retreat at the exclusive deer valley resort includes a who's who of powerful republican figures, like 2008 republican nominee john mccain, former bush advisor karl rove, and former secretary of state condoleezza rice. also expected are top republican donors -- including casino developer sheldoned aleson and home depot founder. >> the next president of the united states. >> when they meet with romney and his wife, ann, attendees are expected to focus on the message needed to defeat the president -- the economy and next week's supreme court ruling on mr. obama's health care law.
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a big question is how the ruling could effect campaign and how republicans will react. >> in the coming days, i think you all know the supreme court will rule on the president's health care law. >> reporter: house speaker john boehner who is not expected to attend the romney retreat warned republicans thursday not to overplay a supreme court victory. in a memo he said, there will be no spiking of the ball. republicans are focused on the economy. we will not celebrate at a time when millions of americans remain out of work. now, what's unusual about this weekend's kind of secret summit is this access that these donors are getting to romney. big-time donors always have access to the candidate and the campaign but this is different. this is a much more organized and efficient way of just getting everybody together, all at one time. charlie? erica? also in washington, cbs news political director john dickenson. what do we make of this?
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money people, policy people, condoleezza rice, it all seems transparent -- or is there something i'm missing? >> well, this is the fund-raisers here are people who gave $50,000 or raised $250,000 or more. so this is a kind of a mix between a shareholders' meeting and renew afl vows. they're all gathered together to see mitt romney. he'll do some stroking of them and thank them for all the good work they've done, and it is a unity moment. so bring in all of these people who might have supported other candidates, show them how well things are going. for up and coming politicians, that to me is what's the most interesting here. if you're governor bob mcdonnell of virginia, you're getting entree to a whole bunch of fund-raisers and the important people you might need for your later career. message to you, mitt romney has given you entree to these people so always stay on message. and that's true for karl rove, paul ryan and all the other heavyweights in the republican field who will also be there. >> does this say that the republican party is very united
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behind mitt romney? >> it says that the top very wealthy part of the republican party is united behind him. and that's very important for fund-raising. one of the purposes of this is to give all of these fund-raising folks something for talk about when they go to their friends and they can say, you know, when i was talking to governor romney by the barbecue grill, he said to me that, you know, my energy ideas were brilliant. well, that gives them a talking point when they're getting money from their friends and it makes them feel important. that's incredibly important in terms of raising money, but also when -- if anything ever goes wrong in the campaign, they don't want to see one of these people quoted in the paper saying, oh, gosh, things are going wrong. this makes everybody field loved and that will keep them on-board all the way through november. >> quickly on health care, we heard what speakerer boehner sa. what about the romney plan? what's the plan? >> governor romney has to be careful here because if the individual mandate is struck
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down, that might bring up a long conversation about the individual mandate in massachusetts. and which he supported then in the state. he argues state speemts aexperi fine, they shouldn't be taken to the national level. >> john dickerson, thank you. this morning, trayvon martin's family is reacting a newly released videotapes of george zimmerman who shot the 17-year-old in february. we see the suspect at the scene for the first time describing the shooting just hours after it happened. >> reporter: george zimmerman's attorney released this videotape of zimmerman taking police back to the scene of the shooting the day after he shot and killed 17-year-old trayvon martin. >> i think i was trying to push him away from me. and then he got on top of me somewhere around here and that's
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when i started screaming for help. >> reporter: here zimmerman described the moments before the shooting, saying martin began to slam his head into the concrete. >> that's when my jacket moved up and i had my firearm on my right side hip. like he saw it. he looked at it. he says you're going to die tonight, [ bleep ]. and he reached for it but he reached -- i felt like his arm going down to my side. i grabbed it and i just grabbed my firearm and shot him. one time. >> reporter: attorney mark o'mara says he posted that tape and others on his website -- >> my fear is that people made up their minds on anger, hatred, predispositions about things, and that hurts the process. >> reporter: another piece of evidence released -- an audiotape of a police interview with zimmerman. in it, zimmerman said he was
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afraid, but the lead investigator questioned his account. >> jumped out of the car to see where he was going. that's not fear. that's one of the problems i have with the whole thing. >> reporter: the attorney for the family of trayvon martin, ben crump, says those questions are significant. >> obviously the lead detective did not believe george zimmerman. his credibility is a major issue, and you have to remember, it is only his version. >> reporter: but crump says the family believes all the evidence in the case should come out. >> they want all the evidence out because they know their son, they know what type of child he was. >> reporter: zimmerman is charged with second degree murder for martin's killing. right now he sits in jail with a bond hearing scheduled for next friday. it is time to show you some of this morning's headlines from around the globe. the "seattle times" says a national park ranger died during
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thursday's rescue of climbers on washington's mount rainier. ranger was preparing to climb as part of a helicopter evaluation when he fell 37 feet down the mountain. "usa today" reports gas prices could drop below $3 a gallon by autumn. that would be the lowest in nearly two years. the economy has cut down on demand trending crude prices falling. hackers are claiming responsibility for yesterday's twitter outrage. the site was down for 40 minutes worldwide. the hacker who claims responsibility said it was surprisingly simple to take twitter offline. the "indianapolis star" reports a toxic mix of chemicals made dozens of swimmers sick at a public swimming pool in indianapolis. swimmers reported a bleach-like odor. more than 80 were sent to the hospital. officials say it is unclear how those out of balance pool chemicals got in to the garfield park
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>> my family, all of us are deeply saddened by this whole thing and we're going to get it right. >> this morning she tells us why all those threats are wrong. lebron james captures that elusive title he so desperately coveted. >> after nine nba seasons, lebron james is finally an nba champion. as he celebrates with the miami heat, we'll look at whether it chax anything for his many critics on cbs "this morning."
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>> is that a new tattoo? oh, god, how many do you have? don't go nuts. nowadays you see the mural, the sis te sisteen chapel. >> i'm not going for the 16th chapel. >> canadian high school. >> welcome back to cbs "this morning." there is new information this morning on the bus monitor in western new york who was bullied by a group of seventh-graders. this morning the students and their families are actually getting death threats while online donations for the grandmother of eight continue to pour in. >> jim axelrod is in rochester,
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new york where he visited her at her home yesterday. jim, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, charlie. what a week for karen klein. she begins it as a bus monitor in her 23rd year of service, making $15,000 a year in a suburb of rochester, new york, not particularly well known outside her own neighborhood. she ends it as an international youtube sensation with a fund established in her name worth $450,000 after enduring some nasty harassment from four seventh grade bullies. >> oh, my god, you're so fat. >> reporter: if you haven't seen it by now, you're a member of an ever-shrinking minority. karen klein getting taunted by four seventh-graders who ride her bus. >> look at all this flab. >> reporter: in your view, are these four okay kids acting like jerks? or are these four rotten apples? >> two are okay jerks.
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the other two are rotten apples. >> reporter: in the video, klein seems to try to ignore it, though there was a lot more going on underneath. didn't any part of you get angry? >> oh, yeah, there was a part of me. but it stayed in me. >> would you have liked to, huh? >> oh, yeah. oh, yeah. i sure would have. just wiped the smirk right off their faces. you know? but you just can't do that. i didn't. >> reporter: no, that's not karen klein. >> i'm sorry. >> reporter: early last evening, one of the boy's fathers came to apologize. >> i apologize. >> reporter: and assure her his son would be punished. >> there's no excuse and we're going to get to the bottom of that. but i really it broke my heart and i shed a lot of tears thinking about that whole thing and i just want you to know that
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my family, all of us are deeply saddened by this whole thing and we're going to get it right. >> reporter: but listen to how she ends the conversation, alluding to the threat the boys' families will be getting. >> yeah, we'll be okay. >> you were asking him if he was going to be okay. >> sorry. >> why you sorry? that's so generous of you. >> well, i heard that story, you know, about phone calls and stuff and -- >> threats against the family. >> yeah. p>> reporter: perhaps it's that generous nature that people around the country and around the world have been responding to. clogging her inbox with supportive e-mails. >> god bless you for keeping calm and showing them how decent people behave. >> reporter: and donating more than $400,000 to a webpage
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called let's give karen the bus monitor a vacation, which is all a little confusing to her. >> they say i'm such a great person and they love me but they don't even really know me. you know? >> reporter: as for the boys, karen is relieved that what she's seen of their parents' response. >> what went through your mind when you found out your kid was 1 of the 4? >> rage. sadness. there was a lot of emotion that went on there. mostly sadness. i just felt terrible. >> reporter: but the apology she really wants to hear are not from the parents. you want to hear from the kids? >> oh, yeah. >> are you ready to hear from the kids? >> in i ready to hear from them? no. not face to face. >> it's still too raw? >> yeah.
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yes. i would rather wait a while. >> reporter: perhaps the most generous thing karen klein has done is made it very clear she doesn't want to see criminal charges. in her view, perhaps some community service for the boys, maybe they shouldn't be allowed to ride the bus for a year. but she's very clear that what happened here, in her mind, doesn't rise to the level of being criminal. >> jim, we talked a lot about the support for her. what about the community itself? as i understand it, some of the boys did issue some statements. what's the community saying? >> well, let's be fair to this suburb of rochester. lots of outrage for what happened, and certainly lots of support for karen. while we were there, people were walking up to say we're so sorry to have heard, neighbors who knew her, people who didn't know her. then there's this not only greece, but outside internationally this sense. when facebook and youtube combine in our modern culture, not only does everybody see what happened, but they have a chance
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to respond. $450,000 to send her on vacation. karen klein is ending this week, as we said, much differently than she started it. >> jim, thank you. it's been quite a story, hasn't it? >> unbelievable. i'm struck by how deeply this impacted her though. not ready to meet these kids yet. >> i thought that was interesting as well. and it's also -- it's sad, too, when you hear about things -- the behavior is reprehensible, i think we can all agree on that. but when you hear about things like death threats to these families and threats online, there have been a number of people who have come out and said, look, this is just as bad in many ways. you don't fight fire with fire that way. so interesting that response, too. >> good to see the outpouring of support though. >> it is. almost $450,000. it is going to be one heck of a vacation. >> she can go around the world a couple times. lebron james led the miami heat to the nba championship last night. a lot of fans are sitting there going, hey, what took you so
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happy morning in south florida where last night lebron james led the miami heat to a 121-106 victory over oklahoma city to win the nba title. >> james says his first championship is the best feeling he's ever had. it is also a critical moment for the league's biggest star and some say its most polarizing figure. >> james on the break! >> reporter: thursday night, lebron james silenced critics who questioned whether the nba's best player would ever win the league's most coveted trophy.
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as the miami heat beat oklahoma city's thunder 4-1 games. james, a high school phenom, crowned king james before donning an nba jersey, made fans believe they were witnessing basketball history with each pass, with every dunk. but his storybook career took a downward turn after a ill-conceived television announcement to leave cleveland. >> at this time i'm going to take my talents to south beach. >> reporter: and join two of the nba's brightest stars in miami, complete with a lavish welcome party. this drew hyperbolic anger from fans. >> absolute worst decision ever. "queen james," not" king james." >> reporter: but last night, nothing outside of the court mattered. the explosive swoops to the basket, the relentless rebounding, the barrage of shots by teammates. when the clock ticked down, lebron james and the miami heat were nba champions. >> i dreamed about this opportunity, this moment, for a long time.
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my dream has become a reality now and it's the best feeling i ever had. >> with us now, "new york times" sports columnist bill rhoden, welcome. a near decade of anticipation, unmet expectations, intense criticism and doubts -- washed away. magic johnson. i think everything changes. he cannot feel that, you know, that i am the best player in the world because i won the title. >> yeah, pretty much so. i mean -- what can you say? >> and there we go. we're all done! nice to see you! >> nice to see you, bill. >> you know, i mean, really, the guy is phenomenal. relative to what we're talking about? case closed. i'm sorry, in our business, the criticize was that, well, you didn't win the big one. well -- >> now's won it. >> not only did he win the big one, he just completely sat on everybody. >> he dominated. >> guess what? now we move to the olympics.
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now we win the gold medal. >> but was only the criticism about having not won the nba or was it something else because he left cleveland? >> well, you know what? there was so much. in our generation of media and news, it is always something. there are people who didn't like the fact that he left cleveland. including the owner who made a big deal out of it. there's a way he did it. but he went into a partnership with espn. they both decided, you know what? that's a great idea and it got great ratings. but then he went to miami and said, not one, not two, not three, not four, not five, not six -- you know. so lebron gets carried away. i think what finally happened, this is probably a message to this generation of young people, because there's just so much stuff. at some point in time you got to focus and lock in and you got to deal with substance. at some point it can't all just
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be zil. style. at some point you got to deal with substance. in sports, sometimes you got to win. >> at the end of the day, you got to have more points than they did. >> right. if he would have lost -- if he would have not gotten this done, it would have been one of the great falls i think in american sports history. >> how does this change him now though? i mean, yes, he's got the title. he's got these bragging rights now. but does it change him at all as a player you think and the way he approaches this and the way he stands up there with his team? >> that's a great question. he's always been a team person. he's always been a team person. and as a player, i think he got back -- last year the big summer with hakeem olajuwon working on his post-game. particularly a lot of young players -- >> go ahead. >> -- a lot of young players don't do that. in other words, you get so much money, you get so you don't even -- you know what, you say
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i'm at the mountaintop now. but i think that guys like jordan, you know what? we need to get better. >> okay. if he wins as many nba championships as michael -- >> charlie. but, no. finish the question. >> does that make him -- >> the greatest of all time. >> yes, sir. >> yes. but you know what? that's a steep mountain. >> and a big "if." >> look how hard to win one was. >> i can see lebron saying how about let me celebrate this one? >> that's right. well, you asked for this. but if you just saw the moment when he grabbed the trophy -- i always love that, whether it's tiger woods or whatever -- he really felt that this was for real. really meant something to me. >> you hear it hear first -- tiger will win a grand slam.
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>> you know what? that would be great. i'll cover it. >> charlie will be there with you. bill, fleiss to see you. police on long island may not be looking forward to summer over fears that it could be the start of another killing season for an apparent serial murderer. we have new information from a ""48 hours mystery"" investigation of those killings. that's just ahead on cbs "this morning." today's workout is hardcore...
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this is true though. it changes our business a lot. tv the supreme court ruled tv networks can show momentary nudity. yeah. so by popular demand, "the view" is now a radio show. >> it is 8:00. welcome back to cbs "this morning." i'm charlie rose. gayle king is off today. i'm erica hill. as summer begins, authorities on new york's long island are wondering if they will find more victims of an apparent serial killer. police still don't know who killed ten young women and dumped their bodies in a secluded beach area. meanwhile, the death of another woman found in that area six months ago is being called an accident. her family says that's a mistake. tomorrow night on "48 hours mystery," erin moriarty reveals
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new evidence in shannon gilbert's death. >> you know he's still out there, he could be killing someone as we speak. >> reporter: sheri's sister shannon, an escort on a call, went missing from a gated community just three miles from the dumping ground of the long island serial killer. in may of 2010. it was the search for shannon that led to the four victims -- young women like shannon, all linked to the sex trade. >> this is the american version of jack the ripper. that's the kind of case that this is. >> reporter: on the last night of her life, shannon made a 911 call pleading for help, ran from her client's home and disappeared into the night. police finally found her body 18 months later in a nearby marsh. >> we have located the skeletal remains. >> reporter: richard dormer who was police commissioner at the time told "48 hours" he
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shannon's death was not related to the serial killer. he believes she ran into the marsh, disoriented and drowned accidentally. but then why were her clothes found a quarter mile away. >> that's explainable but she's hysterical and she's discarding her possessions as she moves along. >> but her clothes? >> well, her jeans could have come off from running in that environment. >> there isn't a scintilla of a reason why she would willingly take off her jeans and leave them behind to run half-naked into the swamp. >> reporter: so attorney john ray decided to test the police theory. >> we will now proceed into the marsh. if she had abandoned her shoes if she was walking barefoot through this, it would seem almost impossible for her without cutting up her feet very badly. >> reporter: the team comes to the place where shannon's remains were found just 100 yards from a parkway. >> you can see the glistening of some of the vehicles as they pass.
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for her to suddenly just give up and die here wouldn't quite make sense. >> reporter: he believes shannon gilbert was murdered and says that the similarities between her death and the other women found in the area shouldn't be ignored. you think that shannon gilbert was killed by "the" serial killer. >> i believe that the evidence is extremely strong that shannon gilbert was killed by the same person. >> erin moriarty is with us now. is this credible evidence that perhaps she was killed by the same person? >> well, i think investigators disagree with him, but then think about that. that means there's more than one killer out there. the serial killer, the person we know as the long island serial killer, targets women who are by themselves. and in shannon gilbert's case, she had a driver. we know the three men who were with her. we actually take a close look at these three men who saw her in her last few hours. i think it is hard to believe that she was killed by the same person who killed these other women, but then that means there's more than one killer out there -- if in fact the family
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of shannon is right and she was murdered. and there's certainly a lot of evidence to suggest that. >> is it evidence that's moving things forward at this point? >> it's really hard to know. no one's really talking. but what we do know about the long island serial killer is fascinating. i mean this is someone who likes attention, this is a brazen person who's actually called the family of one of its victims making up to eight phone calls and taunting them, then disappearing, not making any other phone calls. he may or may mott be familiar with police procedures because he also knew to stay on the phone just so long or where to make phone calls so that he couldn't be traced. >> but they're not sure if that -- that just means he watches a lot of tv. >> absolutely. because i think the three of us know a lot about police procedures because there are so many of these police procedural shows on television. >> what's common to all the killings? >> they're all online escorts. they're all vulnerable women. what's really sad about all this -- i say in the past when you would go out, you'd have a
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madam, someone who knew where you were going. these women all do it online so no one knows where they went, what time they went. and often these women are never reported missing. so it's really hard to track the killer. >> thank you. >> you can see erin's full report quarterback t report, the long island serial killer, tomorrow at 10:00, 9:00 central right here on cbs. here's a look at your as temperatures rise,
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tomorrow is the 40th anniversary of title 9. it is just a short clause in a law that requires equal opportunity for women in all aspects of education, including sports. it changed everything for female athletes. >> most women in sports today can't remember a time without title 9 but they benefit from it every day. i spoke with one of the law's early champions, tennis great billie jean king. >> that was the whole purpose. it was about social change. >> reporter: in 1973, the nation was captivated with 29-year-old
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billie jean king defeated tennis ace bobby requirementiggs in a dubbed the battle of the sexes. for king, it wasn't about proving she had the skill to beat a man on the court. it was about the future. why was that so important to you? because it was about much more than a match for you. >> oh, it was about social change. you have to remember in 1973 when i played bobby or in 1972 when title 9 was passed, women could not get a credit card on their own without it being co-signed by a male, for instance, just to give you one example. and i knew that my match against bobby riggs was about social change. >> reporter: the change had begun in washington one year earlier -- 1972 with the passage of title 9. an amendment to the civil rights act which granted women and girls equal access to federally funded education and related
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programs. but it's most commonly known as the bill that gave girls equal access to sports. at the time, only 1 in every 27 high school athletes was female. now, as a result of title 9 -- 2 out of every 5 varsity athletes are girls. >> without title 9, women wouldn't have even been in the game. probably one of the most important pieces of legislation of the 20th century. >> reporter: one of its most visible milestones came in 1991 when the u.s. women's soccer team won the world cup. mia hamm was part of that legendary team that proved female athletes could play and win on a professional level. like her teammates, hamm credits much of her success to that landmark legislation. >> i wouldn't have had a career without title 9. i think first and foremost i wouldn't have been able to play
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soccer or any sport that i loved in high school. >> reporter: yet despite the gain by athletes like hamm and generation of girls who can't imagine a time when they couldn't play on the same field as the boys, hamm believes title 9's work is far from over. >> i would love to be in a state where we don't need it, but right now i think it is relevant. i think we still need to consider and create those opportunities for young girls. >> sports is a microcosm of society. we take care of both genders. the world is in a good place. it is when we leave somebody out that's not good. we still don't have as many opportunities. >> much more to do. >> a lot more to do. it's going to be never ending because you always want to create more opportunities to both boys and girls anyway. even if the women were, let's say were even, you'd still want us to have more for both. >> that's good. it will keep you busy. >> oh, for me? like you need one thing more to do.
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>> she told me this really great story. i asked her, she was so intent on this match being about social change, the battle of the sexes with bobby riggs, i asked did he understand what it meant to you? she said no but they became very good friends. throughout the years they talked about it a lot. i think she said it was actually the night before he passed. he had been very ill and she talked to him and he said, you know, we did a really good thing, didn't we? he said yes, we do. a remarkable woman, as you know. >> a pioneer. >> absolutely. and she still continuing -- that title still fits today. she's still very busy making sure -- that she is not done. >> exactly. author stephen mansfield has written about the fate of barack obama and george bush. today he'll tell you buy the gop presidential nominee is mormonizing america. [ female announcer ] i found the best cafe in the world.
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♪ i believe that god has a plan for all of us ♪ ♪ i believe that plan involves eating my own planet ♪ ♪ and i believe the president speaks directly to god ♪ ♪ i am a mormon and dang it the mormons just believe ♪ >> the book of mormen is a gigantic broadway hit. best selling author steven mansfield says, it is also one example of how americans are becoming more aware of the church of jesus christ of latter day saints. >> he writes about this in his new book, "the mormonizing of america." stephen mansfield joins us now.
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welcome. how do you explain the growth? >> birth rates. really good strategies of evangelism. and community. today people want to belong before they believe. mormons give them that opportunity. they're about belonging, they're about oozing around people and drawing them into relationships and in a lonely fragmented society, that works. >> the misperception? >> about mormons? that they're all about the odysseys that everybody wants to talk about publicly, the undergarments and rituals and some of the other maybe more extreme views. in fact, if you asked a mormon, a mormon's going to say what's really important about mormonism is the restoration of priesthood authority. it is the idea the ancient priesthood has been restored that all men can be priests and literally they believes signs, wonders, prophecies happen at the hands of these people. >> are mormons offended when some in the political debate say they're not christians. >> that does offend them and it is going to continue to be offensive because really what's going on there is a bit of a battle over the definition of what christian is. even an objective atheist
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looking at the traditional christian doctrine and mormon doctrine would say these two things aren't the same thing but they both continue to claim to be christian. it is about a battle for the name really. >> in a battle for the name because one plays better than another in american politics. >> yes. the other view is that you're going to be a cult. which is the other insulting word that's used of mormons. >> yes, the case has been made that, speaking specifically of mitt romney, maybe this is something he should play up, because mormons, if we're stereotyping here, great family, strong commitment, strong belief system, fantastic work ethic. aren't those all good qualities? >> required service. exactly. the problem is americans don't tend to know these religions really well. we don't teach them in schools. we're a little hesitant. there's a great deal about mormonism that should commend mitt romney. he's going to be radically committed to his wife as an eternal thing. he's going to be about strong families. he's probably going to be far more hesitant to lie than another president perhaps after different faith simply because he believes this is determining
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his ultimate exultation. those are the positive things. then other things -- what about being baptized for the dead and how have the jews felt about that and how does mormonism shape maybe public policy regarding israel. there are controversies and those discussions may need to be had during the campaign season. >> how important is he within the church? >> well, some folks are trying to say, well, he's just lightly connected to the mormon church. no, no, no. he's a mormon bishop. >> what does that mean? >> it's several levels up from sort of the entry level preedhoopreed ho priesthood. he's not at generic level of all men being priests. he has had a leadership role that was about being essentially being clergy, being a pastor. he taught week to week. he assured doctrinal uniformity, he disciplined members. he was maybe something like a bishop in the anglican church, or maybe just a pastor of a mega church perhaps at that level. that was the way he functioned
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regionally. >> you think he should be more outgoing about his mormonism? >> yes. and that's counter what his advisors are telling him. senior advisors are feeling like he overdid it in 2008 by drawing it back from. i'll have to say, that's a mistake. we're going to have a mormon moment. it is going to come in this campaign. something's going to happen. the poll is that -- i'm sure you've heard -- 20% of republicans won't vote for a mormon, 27% of democrats won't vote for a mormon. those numbers haven't changed since 1967. you simply are going to have a collision in this election between these two men and their faiths. somebody's going to bring it up and we're going to have to articulate it. >> they can start preparing by reading your book. >> i think they all should read the book. >> "the mormonizing of america." lucky for everyone, it is actually on sale now. stephen, nice to have you here. if you need someone to think outside the box --
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good morning, seattle. welcome back to cbs "this morning." listen to one of the strangest most imaginative stories ever. you ready? abraham lincoln, vampire hunter. >> this combination of history and horror fantasy is opening in theaters today. jeff glor talked with the man who came up with the idea. jeff? >> charlie, good morning.
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seth grahame-smith is a prolific jung writer and producer. we met him at new york's historical society to chat about abraham lincoln, ax-wielding and alternate history. before abraham lincoln, vampire hunter, was a movie -- it was a "new york times" best seller. actually, widely praised by lincoln scholars for its blend of real history and fantasy. >> we call this a completely ridiculous premise to start with. >> it is. it is. i think you'd be crazy not to acknowledge that it is a ridiculous premise. abraham lincoln to the best of my knowledge did not in fact fight vampires. it's an absolutely sort of muscular, ridiculous badass ride. >> the idea came from where? >> reporter: before he was the
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new hollywood "it" kid, seth grahame-smith was a no-name writer. >> i'm considered an overnight success and i spent 11 years in a one-bedroom apartment writing things day and night that nobody would read. >> reporter: his first hit came in 2009, "pride and prejudice and dom zombies." this year's it's "unholy night," a subversive recasting of the three wisemen as thieves. in between -- there was lincoln. >> i think that abraham lincoln, the real man, was in a lot of ways the only american super hero. i mean it's the ultimate sort of american dream story in a way. >> but tell me, mr. lincoln, what do you hate? >> no education. >> i hate that my mother was taken away. >> no money, no family name. yet he's able to pull himself up and not only become the president of the united states,
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but then unite the united states. >> reporter: grahame-smith knew the film with not be a critical darling and would be met with less an glowing reviews. but he says at least it's not boil boilerplate. >> the way i see it, whatever else it is, it is a huge summer movie that is, for a change, not a sequel, prequel, reboot, remake, based on a toy, a video game or a board game. that's where i come in and make my case like, hey, let's do something strange. let's get back to doing cool genre films. >> reporter: his current genre -- the outrageous historical recreation -- >> now we are engaged in a great civil war. >> reporter: -- is one he's energized. he just doesn't want it to define him. >> you don't want to be nobody as the mash-up guy. >> no. because frankly, i don't want to become a parody of myself. if i'm writing peter the great,
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ape hunter or something, which would probably actually make a pretty good book -- >> grahame-smith freely acknowledges the pressure. his first screen play, this spring's "dark shadows" starring johnny depp fell flat, even in 3-d. >> it largely didn't work. i guess financially and critically it was -- i'm proud of the movie, but you can't live and die with each thing. but you do feel it. you know? my concern with lincoln is that maybe people don't quite know what to make of it. if people really like it, great. if they don't, then you just move on and try to do better next time. >> reporter: now, he has more than a dozen projects in development. including producing the stephen king classic "it." >> king, to me, is one of the most underrated writers of the 20th and 21st centuries. >> because in many ways he didn't get that respect. >> he didn't.
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he didn't. and he still doesn't despite the fact that he's written 50 worldwide best sellers and he's among the most prolific and i think talented writers of our generation, or of our time. i'm, frankly, not that good a writer but i want to write the stories that i want to write. >> you've sold a lot of books. you've covered a lot of different ground and yet you say you're not a very good writer. >> for me, i have to think of myself like that. because i tell people, if you don't wince when you read something that you wrote two years ago, then you've got a problem. because it means you've stopped growing. >> reporter: that is certainly not the case with seth grahame-smith. if anything, his ambition is expanding. >> first i was just in shock that i was invited to the party. you know? then you're happy that you're invited to the party, and then now i'm in the phase where i'm like, well, okay, what am i going to do here at the party. >> do you want to take over the party? >> yeah. little bit. i mean i'd be lying if i said
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no. >> sounds like a guy who knows who he is and knows what he wants to do. but if he doesn't want to be a genre writer, what does he want to be? >> i think he wants to cross into different genres. he does say he wants to direct -- wink-wink. everybody says they want do that. he said, listen, i want to have a long career, not a sexy career. he knows he's kind of the "it" kid right now. i think he's a little bit trying to beat that, some of those expectations and tamp down some of that energy and -- >> sounds like he has a very good business partner. >> jeffrey zuckerberg's son. right. these boys are smart, they clearly have connections and are clearly staying very, very busy right now. >> "it." i'm a scaredy cat. i'm awful. but i remember my sister being obsessed with this book. that's a big deal. >> that's a huge deal. the stand is still one of my favorites of all time. >> yeah, i wouldn't know. i'm too lame.
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oh, my gosh. my son. monica, she called, she's in rome. i toll her she could stay with us. she just broke up with her boyfriend so she's a bit at loose ends. >> trouble. trouble in every city. >> trouble. why trouble? >> you're just going to love her. she's smart and funny and interesting. men just adore her. i think it is because of the sexual vibe that she gives off. >> favorite on the independent film circuit, now earning a
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place in mainstream movies like woody allen's latest, "to rome with love." >> she plays a woman whose boyfriend has eyes for someone else, her flirtatious friend, greta gerwig is here with us. to rome with love is four vignettes. >> yes. it's like short stories that intermingle and they all take place in rome and it's very romantic and there are mishappens. >> but who car working for woody allen in rome is like combining two amazing things. i'm so lucky. the movie's beautiful and funny. >> and woody as a director. >> he's quiet and he's precise and he makes me very nervous. i'm always worried i was going to get fired. >> he made you audition. >> oh. i auditioned for it. i really properly went and i acted for him, he gave me notes. thendy it again and he hired me. so i'm really --
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>> clearly you took the notes well. >> yeah. >> but you are telling us you were talking with us, seems there's a little intimidation there. in your mind he's still woody allen. >> every time i have an interaction with him, nerve-racking experience. i watched a pbs documentary on him and i felt like -- but you've met the man but it still feels like he's so iconic for me. it is hard for him to just and person. >> the idea of filming in rome for woody, he's gone to these european cities to make films. >> he always says that that's where the money is. that's where he gets financing. but i think there is also something that inspires him about those cities. once is he there, he creates these different stories in his mind and they really influence the film. >> in fact, this one is kind of homage to great italian filmmakers. >> it is. it's also -- i mean he grew up loving those movies and he
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talked about that. he said he wanted to photograph rome in tribute to them. >> and you even -- the way he shoots your schedule, you actually got to enjoy a little bit of rome. which isn't so bad when you get paid to do it. >> he doesn't shoot long days and italian crews also do not like to work long days. between the two, we'd have these leisurely lunches in the middle of the day where everyone would drink wine. then go back to set. we were like, well, we just had a bunch of white wine. i guess we'll keep going. >> those are probably some of the best scenes you'd ever done. >> it was amazing. it was beautiful. i loved the city so it was really exciting. >> tell us where you want your sort of acting career to go. what kinds of things -- >> i'd like to act in all different kinds of films. love writer-directors. woody allen as being the pinnacle of that. but i really love it and would like to work with as many as possible. i also like to write and direct
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my own movies because i realize part of me wants to be woody allen. >> you're not only thinking about your role, you're watching what he does to make sure there is a lesson to be learned. >> i am. being an actor, it is kind of like you get to be on so many different sets. it's like going to film school every day, if you pay attention. i'm always looking at how they're frame being the shots, thinking about it. yeah. it's really an educational experience. >> so what have you learned from watching him? >> well, i think that there's a quality that all the directors i love have. they're very calm and very precise and they're very directed. they're not -- he has a kind of frenetic comic persona, and actually when he's directing, he couldn't be more clear. he's very calm and his sets are quiet and i like that. i like that. >> does he do many takes? >> no, he does very few takes and he doesn't give you very much information so everybody's on edge because they know you've only got three shots and he's the only director i've ever worked with who says, print that take. because he's from an older
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school of making movies. >> he knows -- >> you'll do the take and you'll know that it was good because he'll go "print that take." which is exciting. makes me feel like -- >> very quickly, you said everybody else gets kind of nervous. alec baldwin, penelope cruz were in this movie. did you see a little bit of that with them? >> alec was very comfortable. but me and jesse, jesse eisenberg and ellen page, the three of us were very nervous. alec -- >> he's alec baldwin. >> he has a long film career and he's so comfortable. he put us at ease. i remember the first day me and jesse and emily wellen were swe and so nervous. >> penelope's in a different vignet vignette. >> i didn't meet her. i'm in love with her. >> anyone who isn't will definitely be after this movie. >> i know.
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this island is 141 square miles of unspoiled charm. just 30 miles of paved roads and no traffic lights. >> it is a close-knit community so hopefully -- >> bill and melinda gates were so enchanted by its beauty, they rented every hotel room and chartered every helicopter on the island for the 1994 wedding. some of the estimated 1,900 residents expressed trepidation with the sale but were also relieved to finally know who now ons their home. >> we're a little in the dark about this but at least it is good to know we have a name now. >> kind of scary. yeah? because we don't know him. we don't know his personality and all that. >> reporter: 67-year-old ellison is said to have been circling the island for some time. he's a yachting enthusiast who won the america's cup finals in 2010. with the purchase of the island, the billionaire joins a select
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group of island owning celebrities, including johnny depp, jean hack man, leonardo dicaprio, and steven spielberg. the maui news reports the previous owner, self-made billionaire david murdoch, had set an asking price between $500 million and $600 million. on wednesday, his company, castle and cooke, filed a transfer application for the 98% of the island that will now belong to ellison. >> my first question is -- who owns the other 2%. >> i wondered the same. >> my second is, wouldn't you like to be able to do that? your own little island? >> um -- yeah. or if you knew someone who did, you could go visit and then you don't have to worry about the upkeep. >> better than owning the boat is having a good friend that owns a boat. >> that's why i'm friends with you. >> tiny boat. >> it still counts. >> it does. a boat is a boat, and water is water is water, an island is an island. >> maybe we can just find a
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friend big enough with a boat big enough to take us to the island and we can check it out. >> i have some ideas. >> okay. that does it for us as we look back at the past week, we want to show you the names of the people who brought you this broadcast. all of them. take a look. and have a great weekend. >> i think what the president has done is going to make it harder for us to come up with the kind of balanced solution i was working on. >> but would you repeal this? >> well, if it would be overtaken by events. >> it's very important for president obama to appeal to some of the groups that like him. >> i'm not going to discuss the process. i have a new book out. i don't know if you heard about it. >> a result that brings a bret of relief for the country. >> what they hope is that this meeting will be a catalyst for action. >> one way of dealing with that sort of instability is to have more of an older man managing your money. >> the two men barely looked at these other. >> is this couple on the outs or are they expecting a baby? >> republicans say holder is not giving them the documents they need. >> justice department said your
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