good morning. it is tuesday, june 26th, 2012. welcome to studio 57 at the cbs broadcast center. i'm charlie rose. a supreme court decision on immigration leaves both president obama and mitt romney scrambling to declare victory over the controversial issue. and we'll talk with former secretary of state condoleezza rice about the race for the white house and what the u.s. should do with syria and iran. i'm erica hill. a state of emergency in florida as tropical storm debby continues to drench the gulf coast. plus, are u.s. cities ready for a major disaster? john miller goes inside one drill where the answer was a resounding no. and i'm gayle king. whitey bulger's lawyer says forget about those 19 murder charges. he had government immunity.

and when i see you at 8:00, actor/comedian denis leary joins us in studio 57. but first, as we do every morning, we begin with a look at today's "eye opener," your world in 90 seconds. the federal government, what they said to arizona is drop dead, arizona, drop dead and go away, we're going to ignore you. >> the supreme court rules on arizona's controversial immigration law. >> three of the four contested provisions thrown out, but one very controversial "show me your papers" provision left in place. >> the power for police to ask about one's immigration status when they have reasonable suspicion to do so. >> reasonable suspicion. what in the world is that? >> reasonable suspicion. define it. >> now you need to go to law school. tropical storm debby off florida's gulf coast. >> there are 35,000 people without power. >> looking at four to eight additional inches of rainfall. some historic flooding. >> we've declared a state of emergency so we can coordinate

the use of our state resources. >> coast guard rescuers plucking a family of nine, including four children, from a vacation house. >> out west, fire crews in colorado are trying to contain eight huge wildfires raging across the state. >> we may have to go help the other side. >> stay alive. according to the "wall street journal," if you use a mcintosh computer on the orbitz website, chances are you'll have to pay more for a hotel room. starting today, spirit airlines is charging $1 to print your boarding passes at the airport. a michigan couple took the plunge literally this weekend. the dock they were standing on gave way during a photo shoot. >> oh, that? do your parents get upset about the fact that you've become, you know, a sex symbol and all these things? >> i can't help it! they made me, really, naturally. >> and all that matters. finally, boston, i just want to say, thank you for youkilis. [ laughter ] >> on "cbs this morning." >> everybody was doing "winning, duh, winning." >> what was i talking about,

though? i lost my children, my job, my money, my stature, my mind. what was i winning about? >> what were you winning? >> i don't know. captioning funded by cbs welcome to "cbs this morning." police and politicians are trying to come to grips with the supreme court's decision on arizona's controversial immigration law. the justices ruled unanimously monday that police in arizona are allowed to check any suspect's immigration status. >> however, in a 5-3 vote, the court struck down three other parts of the law requiring immigrants to carry registration papers wherever they go, making it illegal for undocumented residents to seek work or hold a job in arizona, and allowing police to arrest suspected illegal immigrants without a warrant. jan crawford is outside the supreme court this morning. jan, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, erica. good morning, charlie. this was one of those decisions that really didn't make anyone very happy. as you said, they upheld that key part, struck down some other parts. they really struck a careful

balance with this law. so, what we saw yesterday was democrats and republicans each scrambling to put their spin on it, what decidedly was a mixed decision. the court unanimously agreed to uphold the most controversial section of the arizona law known as "show me your papers." it requires police to check the immigration status of people stopped for another violation. but the obama administration could also claim at least a partial victory. the court threw down some limits on arizona, striking down parts of the law that created new state crimes for immigration violations, ruling that immigration enforcement was the federal government's job. that left the two presidential candidates who have very different views on immigration praising and criticizing completely different parts of the decision. president obama said in a statement he was "pleased that the supreme court has struck down key provisions of arizona's immigration law," but he didn't stop there, adding, he is "concerned about the practical

impact of the remaining provision," the one requiring immigration background checks. presumptive republican nominee mitt romney, who was in arizona monday, said at a fund-raiser that he "would have preferred to see the supreme court give more latitude to the states, not less." romney has said immigration would be a priority for his first year in office, but he has not gone in to specifics about what he would do, as he tries to appeal to latino voters without alienating conservatives. that balancing act led to a contentious exchange between a romney spokesperson and reporters asking for more details. >> does the governor agree with the supreme court or with arizona? >> well, our position's been clear on that. >> it's not. >> it is. the president failed to address illegal immigration. >> reporter: republican senator marco rubio, himself the son of cuban immigrants, told charlie rose the decision underscored the need for federal immigration reform. >> so, i think they have a constitutional right to pass a law like this. i understand why they passed a

law like this, but i don't think it's a national model. >> reporter: now, the obama campaign believes that politically, at least, this law wasn't so bad. the administration is going to continue to fight against it. the president yesterday suggested that one provision could lead to racial profiling. all of that, of course, could help rally hispanics, which as we have discussed could be decisive in november. charlie and erica? >> jan, let's focus on the opinions of two people. first, justice scalia, and then chief justice roberts. >> reporter: well, talk about two different opinions from two very different justices. you know, justice scalia is that colorful, brilliant, intellectual, and increasingly, he's just gotten more audacious. we've seen him during the arguments really going after the lawyers. and yesterday, his decision was almost over the top. he said the court's decision, which he disagreed with when they struck down those three provisions, boggled the mind. and he went on to say how states were going to be under siege. very colorful language. but you know what, charlie? you know how many justices voted

with him to support him in his decision? zero. he got no other votes in that dissent. what i thought was particularly interesting was the other conservative justice, chief justice john roberts. we think of him as always siding with the conservatives, help anchor that conservative bloc on the supreme court. yesterday he walked over and joined the liberals with that moderate justice kennedy to give that decisive fifth vote. now, why this is interesting is not just for immigration, but of course, that decision that we're waiting on on thursday, the big ruling about the president's health care reform. how will roberts vote in that case? how will kennedy vote in that case? we are going to find out shortly after 10:00 on thursday. >> jan, thank you. we can't wait to get to that. also in washington this morning, cbs news political director john dickerson. john, good morning. >> good morning, charlie. >> let's begin with the political fallout in terms of the candidates and the campaigns for the presidency. >> well, the political fallout here of the immigration decision is basically a split decision is

beneficial for the president. he gets to talk about the arizona law, which is unpopular with hispanics. he gets to rally that group, which is very strongly in favor of him. governor romney was obviously trying to stay away from the issue during the primaries. he was anxious to align himself with the interests of arizona. in this case, he tried to keep all of the focus on the president, saying that this decision by the supreme court came about because the president failed to move on immigration and arizona had to take matters into its own hands. >> how does romney plan to handle this? because he was very strong in his appeal to conservatives in the primary, and now he's in a general election in which the hispanic vote is very important. >> he's basically going to make the same pitch to hispanics that he's making to the rest of the country, is that the economy is bad, that hispanics have been hit by the bad economy, and that he has a plan to turn the economy around. so, the message will be essentially the same, and he's going to move on. there's no way, really, he can kind of run to the middle or get to the left of where he was in the primaries and not be seen as

totally inauthentic, so he'll just try to get the focus back on the economy, because that's what they hope the election's about. >> john, though when it came to this question, as we saw on the plane there, his spokesperson giving a nod to an answer, and there's been criticism that romney needs to start getting more specific. is this the time for him to do that? >> well, if the economy continues to weaken and governor romney can convince voters to make the election a referendum about barack obama, then he could stay vague and evasive, but a lot of the call for the specifics that you mentioned is not just from the press corps, frustrated by the total lack of nourishment, but from conservatives, peggy noonan, a slew of governors, bill kristol arguing that he can't simply run as an anti-obama. the romney campaign says they've been specific, but the specifics are the kind like we see in drug ads, where they show a pretty picture of improved health, but then you get two pages of fine print, and it's that fine print that romney never talks about and that the election should be about. >> john dickerson, thank you very much. >> thanks, charlie. florida is under a state of

emergency this morning as tropical storm debby sits off the gulf coast in no apparent rush to make landfall. >> debby has barely budged, in fact, in the past 72 hours, just socking florida with flood-producing rains, winds, high winds and tornadoes, and it is not over yet. another eight inches of rain is possible over the next few days. michelle miller is in st. petersburg. michelle, good morning. we have michelle there. we may be having a problem with the audio. >> reporter: winds are ferocious here, as they are through much of the northwest coast of florida. all 67 counties are under that level 1 state of emergency. and while no national guard troops have been activated, nor has the state asked for any federal emergency disaster assistance, florida's governor, rick scott, is urging, pleading with residents here not to take debby lightly. for four days now, debby has

stalled in the gulf, dumping 10 to 15 inches of rain on millions of floridians from ft. myers across the panhandle. the system hasn't even made landfall, and already it's drenched the state and triggered at least 20 reports of tornadoes. >> all of a sudden, it gets very quiet, and i go, oh, the storm's over. then i heard this explode, then i heard this pow! >> reporter: 73-year-old cleo robertson anxiously watched as a possible twister closed in on her home in hard-hit pasa grill sunday. >> this is the roof from here. >> reporter: it tore through her neighbor's home before jumping to hers, one of the oldest houses in the community. >> all the people came out of this apartment, six of them, scared to death, and they had to be evacuated because their roof was gone. >> reporter: another reported tornado ripped through highlands county, killing a woman as she held on to her young child. >> i can picture her holding the baby, not letting her go. just to know that my daughter was holding her baby so tight. >> reporter: the coast guard came to the rescue of another

family and their two dogs, hoisting them to safety after water surrounded their vacation home. forecasters say flooding will pose the biggest threat over the next couple of days. residents waded in knee-deep water monday as sinkholes popped up in other neighborhoods, a truck tetering over one gaping hole. by the end of the week, debby could dump up to two feet of rain on some coastal communities. while the storm has helped ease florida's drought conditions, most here are ready to see debby move on. and the problem here is that some 30,000 customers are without power as a result of this storm, and power officials tell us they expect many more as debby makes landfall. erica, charlie? >> michelle miller in st. petersburg, thank you. out west, the story is wildfires, burning now in at least seven states. in colorado alone, eight large fires are burning this morning. one fire near colorado springs

grew overnight. it is currently out of control. at least 6,000 people were forced to evacuate on monday, and there is so much smoke, pike's peak can barely be seen, as you can see there. in central utah, a wildfire threatens about 300 homes. the fires are being fed by high temperatures and dry conditions. there is new information this morning in the uproar over leaking classified information. national intelligence director james clapper announced new initiatives monday to keep government secrets secret. >> sources say when employees of the cia, fbi and other agencies take lie detector tests, they will be asked specifically if they have given information to reporters. nancy cordes is on capitol hill this morning. nancy, are lawmakers satisfied with that response? >> reporter: well, erica, we'll find out today when republicans hold a press conference on the matter. what they're likely to say is that this is a good first step by the director of national intelligence, requiring that all intelligence agencies when they conduct routine polygraphs ask

their employees whether they've been involved in leaks, and secondarily saying that all leaked cases, if they're not pursued by the department of justice, will still be investigated internally. but what republicans are also going to say is that what we're really concerned about is the leaks that have already happened, the sensitive counterterrorism operations. they don't believe that the administration can adequately investigate itself and pursue these cases with criminal investigations, if warranted. >> nancy, let me ask you about eric holder and the contempt charges that come out of the house. if there is a vote, will it be along straight party lines? >> reporter: most likely, charlie. that vote is scheduled on thursday. and of course, this is related to a different matter. the department of justice's handling of that controversial gun-running case called "fast and furious." what republicans have said is if holder hands over the documents they want by thursday, this vote could be canceled, it could be postponed, but right now it doesn't look like that's going to happen. the administration, as you know,

has exerted executive privilege over the documents, so it does look like this will come down along straight party lines. >> nancy, thank you. the obama administration says it will send a senior official to meet with egypt's new president after the u.s. is assured that the military will give up power. on monday, mohamed morsi met with the powerful generals who took control when hosni mubarak was forced from power. then morsi, who was once a mubarak prisoner, moved into the presidential palace. a lawyer for mobster whitey bulger says he shouldn't go on trial in november because he had an immunity deal with the government, protecting him from prosecution. bulger was arrested last year after 16 years on the run. heis charged in 19 murders. "newsweek" contributor t.j. has written extensively about the case. welcome. >> good morning. >> is there anything about this that he can make this case that he's immune from prosecution? >> i don't think the case will

be thrown out, the charges. but it is a significant development. whitey bulger was a government informant and he did have some sort of relationship with the department of justice. and now with his attorney filing this motion, it means there is going to be an evidentiary hearing, and there will be a hearing on this. and it will be quite dramatic. it will be a full casting call of a lot of the people in the government, in the justice department that have been handling bulger all those years. >> and fbi as well? >> and the fbi, sure. >> so, what will we learn about the relationship between bulger and the fbi? >> well, we'll learn that he had some sort of arrangement with them. they knew he was a criminal, they knew he was a killer. this was part of the arrangement they had with him. we don't know if this was ever put down on paper. we don't know if it was spelled out on paper. we don't know how many supervisory people were in on this. we don't know who knew about it, who supervised it. >> are they talking? >> no. a lot of them are retired, they've gone on with their careers, they've retired.

in the history of the bulger saga, not a single supervisory person in the justice department or the fbi has ever been held accountable for this relationship, so i imagine a lot of them are squirming in their seats with this information. >> but as you said, too, we don't know if there's anything on paper. we don't really know what sort of proof there is of this arrangement, so how much will his claims hinge on that? >> well, there's an fbi agent, john connolly, sitting in prison down in florida for his relationship with bulger, his handling of bulger. so, we know that there was a relationship. connelly was his direct handler, but what we don't know is who above that supervised that relationship, who else is culpable. >> beyond this, what's the most interesting thing we found out about whitey bulger? >> well, we found out things we have known about him, how machiavellian he is. he is a master player. i think we get the sense now that it's possible he's looking forward to this trial. >> to show how smart he is?

>> well, it will be his last big power play. it's the last card he has to play, and so i imagine he's relishing the idea of dragging all these people that he did business with in the government over the years, dragging them all out into the open. >> so, it's his time to perform. >> it's his way of saying good-bye. >> it will be interesting to see -- >> before i go off to the big house. >> yes. >> yes. >> t.j., good to have you with us. thank you. >> thank you. time to show you this morning's headlines from around the globe. the "wall street journal" reports orbitz, the online travel agency, is suggesting more expensive hotels to people who use mac computers. orbitz made that change after finding mac users are likely to spend $20 to $30 a night more than people who use pcs. rupert murdoch's news corp. may split according to the "financial times." plans have been drawn up to separate the entertainment businesses, including the fox films studio and broadcasting network from publishing assets like the "wall street journal" and the "new york post." >> "the chicago tribune" says illinois congressman jesse

jackson jr. is taking a medical leave of absence. jackson is the target of an ethics investigation. his office says jackson is being treated for exhaustion and does not know how long he'll be away. >> the "new york daily news" says the final beam has been lifted atop a new skyscraper at the world trade center. it will be the first new high-rise to be occupied at the site. 4 world trade center is set to open in the fall of 2013. and "usa today" says the women's tennis association is cracking down on excessive grunting. officials want to develop a device to measure just how much noise the players make and then set rules on

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they're having a funny problem in pakistan. apparently, most of the pakistani police force is overweight. only 25% of the officers in the province of punjab were able to pass the fitness test, and now they're tracking down. they say if they don't get their waist size down to a 38, they could be removed from the field. looks like they're shaping up pretty well, though. i believe the politically correct term for this gentleman is a fatty pakistani. honestly, i could watch this for hours. although i will say, that video makes the fact that we snuck in to pakistan and killed bin laden much less impressive to me. >> welcome back to "cbs this morning." republicans are full of praise for former secretary of state condoleezza rice this morning after her speech over the weekend at a meeting where mitt romney gathered dozens of

major campaign donors. >> condoleezza rice is very, very well received. she's just an exceptional speaker, when she speaks from her heart without notes, she's just a master of the knowledge in her background and perspective. >> condoleezza rice is with us now from washington. p>> good morning.ood morning. >> here is what the press has been saying, or what people at the weekend retreat have said. spectacular, she rocked it, an impassioned plea. what did you say? >> well, i talked about the need for american leadership, i talked about the importance of the united states to a more peaceful world, a world that has been quite turbulent in recent years, and needs a strong american anchor, but i also talked about the essence of america, and i think perhaps that is what people resonated with, that this is a country in which people really believe that it doesn't matter where you came from, it matters where you're

going and that we really need to concentrate on rebuilding our strengths as a country of immigrants, a country where it doesn't really matter your zip code so that you can get a good education, and the need to really pay attention to those strengths so that we can lead from an internal strength at home. >> this was a retreat with and about governor romney. will his foreign policy be different than the foreign policy of president obama? >> what mitt romney will bring to the presidency -- and i believe he would be a very good president -- is he will bring first and foremost an understanding of the role the united states has to play in the world. he understands the essence of an america that believes in free markets and free peoples, and that that has really been the reason that the world has been moving toward more prosperity and greater freedom. he understands that we need to reassure our friends that, indeed, we're going to be with them, and that our foes have to respect, and indeed, fear us.

and because he has those principles and those values, he'll be very good on the foreign policy stage. >> so, what part of president obama's foreign policy and the decisions he has taken do you disagree with? >> look, i have said, and i continue to say, i understand how hard it is to be in the white house, how hard it is to be in the state department, but i do think we need a greater, more assertive america in the world. when things are moving in many different directions as they are, after great shocks to the system like 9/11 and the global financial and economic crisis, and now the positive shock of people insisting on their democratic rights, the united states can't lead from behind. the united states has to have a view, it has to gather people around that view, and frankly, i think we need to do more of that, and the last several years i think we've been lacking on that front. >> that's a point that people

who look at the president on foreign policy say, including critics within his own party, say he has extended and drilled down on the bush foreign policy, especially in terms of terrorism. >> well, there's no doubt that we have benefited from really now ten years of relative consistency when it comes to the war on terror. president bush left a lot of tools to president obama. he left him a military and intelligence integration that has worked extremely well, exceedingly well, as we were able to even bring bin laden to justice. there's no doubt that we've had consistency in the war on terror, and that is something to be grateful for, because i think it is why we have not been struck again. but there is more than terrorism in foreign policy, and i would just make two points. first, we really do need to have a view. it cannot be the lowest common denominator view of the international community through

the security council and u.n. and secondly, they lies on building our strengths at home, so continuing to borrow money we cannot afford, entitlements. if we don't get a handle on who we are at home and fix our multiple problems at home, then we will not lead. and so, this election is rightly about the state of the economy as a source of strength for international leadership. >> madam secretary, let's talk about a couple items in the news, specifically starting with russia, and of course, the impact on syria there. in your experience with vladimir putin, how do you get russia to come to the table on this? >> well, you may not be able to get russia to come to the table. the russians have a view under vladimir putin that is really a kind of 19th-century view of foreign policy. you intimidate your neighbors, as they tried to do with georgia. they have a fast friend, they believe, in bashar al assad. syria has been the center of russia's middle eastern policy. and i'm not certain that we can bring them. they ought to be embarrassed by

being a part of the support structure for a dictator who is murdering his own people every day, but if they are not, then we have to make alliance with those who wish to see bashar al assad overthrown. that's most of the states in the region and including some powerful states like turkey that are now beginning to suffer from the instability that turkey is bringing. we saw this downing of turkish aircraft. and so, let's make alliance with those who understand that syria will never be stable with bashar al assad in place. let's help the opposition to organize. and syria will be better off with bashar al assad and so will the middle east. >> you say help the opposition to organize. do you support, like senator mccain does, arming the rebels? >> well, the first thing you've got to do is to get a political structure that can be on the ground and running when assad is finally gone, and a lot of work has to be done to bring that political alliance together.

and in fact, the turks have been very active in doing so. yes, i do believe that you're probably ultimately going to have to arm the opposition, maybe even today, because people are being armed. assad is being armed by the russians and by the iranians. so, it's not as if people are not being armed. and even the opposition is receiving some arms from regional players, some of whom have their own agenda in syria, and the united states, europe, those of us i think who want to see a stable, and ultimately, democratic syria, are going to have to work with the opposition and probably, indeed, arm them with a political framework, rather than what i fear is happening now, which is that various fragments are being armed in accordance with regional players who have different agendas. >> let me bring this back full circle to politics. we started at the retreat. because of your speech, there

has been some ground swell of enthusiasm about the possibility, because of your experience, because of your sense of resonance with america, that you might be the ideal running mate for mitt romney. >> charlie, i didn't run for student council president. i don't see myself in any way in elected office. i love policy. i'm not particularly fond of politics. governor romney's going to make president. he's got terrific judgment. there is a deep -- >> you are not saying you're turning it down if he calls, are you? >> i'm saying there is no way that i will do this, because it's really not me. i know my strengths, and governor romney needs to find someone who wants to run with him. there are many people who will do it very, very well, and i'll support the ticket. >> that's a no or that's it's not going to happen? >> that's it's not going to happen. and no. >> thank you very much. good to see you. >> thank you, charlie. it's nice to talk to you. dylan mcdermott played a

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dylan mcdermott actually heard his mother's final moments. diane mcdermott was having a violent argument with her boyfriend inside this house, followed by a gunshot. >> dylan watched his mother being taken out of the house on a gurney, and even at 5 years old had a vivid recollection of that. >> it was classified first as accidental, and then it was classified possibly as a suicide. >> reporter: out of this tragedy, mcdermott went on to become a big star on the small screen, recently playing a pychiatrist living in a haunted house in "american horror story." >> it's okay. it's okay. >> there's something in there! >> it's okay. >> reporter: and a ruthless boss and attorney in "the practice." >> i'm doing what i have to do to defend my client. >> reporter: but for all his success, lingering questions about his mother's death never left him. and in 2010, he asked the police to look into the case once more. investigators had difficulty

finding 45-year-old police reports, so they instead combed through newspaper clippings, reinterviewed witnesses and took a closer look at the autopsy report. they discovered diane mcdermott was shot in the back of the head at point blank range. >> it was a close-contact execution type of a gun wound. >> reporter: they now believe she was murdered by her boyfriend at the time, john sponza, a man with ties to organized crime. >> he was a con artist, he was a criminal, he was a drug addict. he enjoyed terrorizing and torturing people. >> reporter: still, police at the time believed sponza's multiple explanations for her death. the new police chief thinks the original investigation wasn't very thorough. >> it was very clear to me that something was terribly wrong with the investigation that was done back in 1967. >> reporter: sponza was killed in 1972 in what looks like a mob hit. he was shot three times and

stuffed into the back of a car. >> the car was parked in a supermarket parking lot and left there for a patrol officer to find. >> reporter: dylan mcdermott would end up being raised by his maternal grandmother. he declined our request for an interview, but last year, he told "cbs sunday morning" about the difficulties of his childhood. >> we lived on $100 a week, my sister and i, and my grandmother worked two jobs, you know. she rescued us in many ways and became our mom. >> reporter: and finally, after all these years, he has closure for his own personal "american horror story." this cold case investigation didn't just result in answers for the mcdermotts. police say they have now also been able to link sponza to two other unsolved homicide

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>> i love that dad. >> and what does he do when the ride ends? he goes for round 2. i'm thinking that's a dedicated dad but don't you think it would be disconcerting to hear your dad scream like a girl. >> i just think it's funny he did the never again grace elizabeth and there we are round 2. >> nothing wrong with screaming like a girl when you're a girl but good daddy did it again. >> dennis leery's bio says he's a four time loser at the emmy awards but he's always a winner with us here at studio 57. we'll talk to him again in a minute. >> he's a team player. this is cbs this morning.

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that's right. >> dr. curtis is also my daughter's mentor. is that who you're talking about. recently dr. coroners gave a glowing college recommendation. when i read it i cried. you would have me believe he is running around dressed up like a giant dinosaur. >> he has transformed himself into a giant lizard. >> we need -- do i in the new film the amazing spider man denis leary place a captain trying to catch the superhero who is dating his daughter. >> dennis leer's with us at the table.

i like you so much hello. >> why wouldn't you. >> what's there not to like. >> you don't know me well enough. >> can i lean in like this or am i going to be in charlie's the shot? >> i have really bad posture and i feel like i have to -- >> i do that all the time. >> you can sis sit however you choose. >> this is what i thought was funny. i'm thinking the best way to get a role in the spider man movie is saying i'm not really a spider man guy i'm a bat mankind of guy. >> my wife is a huge spider man person as are my kids and i got a call from mark webb, the director talking about the new spider man idea so i couldn't tell my wife because if i told my wife the guy from spider man called me she would say don't even read the script. just do it. so i read it and i liked it and i talked to mark again about the characters and he told me

he was playing spider man and again stacy. and i was a huge fan of emma stone and i had just seen the social network with garfield in it and he was fantastic so when i sat down to dinner on the third day and i knew i was taking it and i said to my wife guess what they're making a new spider man and she was like screaming at the top of her lungs but i'm a bat man guy so the thing i liked about mark's take was that it was going to be darker and it was going to be more character oriented because my favorite bat man stuff is the stuff they're doing now with christian bail. bale. it was great these kids are the real deal. >> he was in death of a salesman. >> fantastic. >> and this kid -- mark wanted too to shoot a lot of the stuff without tag lot of green screen and he trained with the stunt guys and he was doing a lot of the stuff that you see in the

movie, the swinging and bouncing off trucks and these crazy stunts. he was actually doing them himself so there's stunts that haven't been seen before. >> we have a picture over here -- go ahead. >> i'm sorry. go ahead. >> there you go. it's amazing. >> look at this picture over here. this is one great looking family. >> good looking family. >> she would have said instantly do spider man because. >> because she loves spider man and she's a smart woman. >> okay did you go to her for advice in terms of what roles you should take and not take. >> i do talk to her about what's coming in, you know. a lot of times something like this like i said, i knew she would say yes to, so -- and my kids, the great thing about this is that the my kids like i guess anybody any dad, my kids don't think i'm cool. >> they do not? >> once my kids -- when they were small and i was in the first couple ice age movies they thought that was cool then they got to the age i had to

drop them off two blocks from school in the morning. >> don't want to be seen with you. >> and they'd say don't make any jokes when my friends are around. >> and now my kids are coming to the premier with me because they think it's a coelome view. >> i'm expecting them thursday at the premier, dad don't stand too close to us at the premier. >> your -- you've got such a great looking family den is and your son is in college out of college. >> he just graduated. >> i always think when you go to college graduations the commencement speech can be so deadly boring. how was yours? >> are you talking about the one you gave? >> no the one you just went to with your son. >> i'll tell you what, it's emotional, because you're proud and you start to cry and all that stuff that happens but the other worry is that it goes rob for too long but i have to say that david gregory spoke and he was absolutely hilarious and i didn't know he was funny.

>> he's very funny. >> he's a great mimic too. >> but you were talking about you doing a commencement speech. what did you say? >> this is what i said i spoke at my alma mater emmer son college i felt i didn't have to do any work for it i'm dr. denis leary. >> so when i went i remember when i graduated and governor michael due coo discuss spoke and he spoke for about an hour and a half and it felt like seven months, and we just wanted to go out and we had worked for four years. we wanted the thing, take the pictures with the parents and then party, right, so when i got up there my speech was a minute and a half long, and i basically said life's going to suck from this point on. you just had the best four years of your life. now it's all death and taxes and let's get out of here and

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today sed rick the entertainer himself, one of the original kings of comedy. >> and sweet and spicy asian dishes. live on cbs. welcome back to cbs this morning we had a great conversation during the commercial break. weather conditions denis don't leave. >> i'm still here. >> and he said you're prying me out of this chair over my dead body. >> what am i the fourth host. >> one of the things we said that was interesting is that you live for the news every morning first thing you do. >> yep. >> online what's going on. >> and comedians do as well all comedians do because that's the blood for them to be what they are. >> yeah, i mean, i'm a sports

nut, too so of course i want to get those scores and the things i didn't get the night before, but yeah, you can't operate. i mean as a comedian i can't operate unless i think i have a sense of what the news was that day, and you know, we were talking about john stewart before, you know, sometimes if i've missed a really busy day and missed a lot of the news, like you can actually pick up what the days news was from john but toy get that information. when i turn to somebody and i go did you hear about blah blah blah and they go when did that happen. what do you mean when did it happen. it was all over the news this morning. >> you're not paying attention. what's your take on politics, on the political season. >> i don't know what to think right now. >> really? >> meaning? >> meaning i don't know which way it's going to go. i keep waiting -- you know, it's like baseball to me. this is like the baseball season. it doesn't mean anything until we get to september and october. that's when we're really going to get into it. a lot of the stuff going on now

i don't really care about it, but to me the most interesting part about the politics is really i primaries when you get to see who's going to make a fool of themselves and step on land mines and i love that. we know they're coming between these guys. when baseball heats up in september and october is when it's romney and obama. >> you pay attention to what's happening with the red sox. >> oh, yeah. but i mean, you've said to me earlier when i reminded you that we had had you take us on the 100th anniversary of fenway park and your red sox manager bobby valentine have done some trading, building and you say that's fine with me. >> i think it's fantastic. and also i have to say as a red sox fan we won in 2004 and 2007. 2004 was a dream. we beat the yankees four in a row. 2007 was gravy and a surprise. my dad came to this country in 1950 became a red sox fan and

lived his whole life and died without seeing them win. 2004 i was done. like my son every day i can't believe they're doing this but i'm already thinking miles ahead because i'm an old red sox fan. we've time. if we have to sacrifice this season it's fine with me. >> there's one thing about me you don't know that will make you jealous, i got to know ted williams and spend time with him, had conversations with him, had baseballs signed with him. >> did you really? >> i mean, ted was the most impressive man. >> the real john wayne. >> as a jet fighter pilot and was the greatest hitter in the history of baseball. >> last hitter to hit 400 but such a charismatic guy. >> every red sox fan i know. >> i heard an interview with him one time on the radio with bob costas 25 years ago. he was talking about hitting and it was on the radio and when i turned the radio on i

thought john wayne was being interviewed. the timber of the voice was exactly the same. as you closed your eyes and listened to him talk it would sound like john wayne except he was the real john wayne is because he went to war twice. >> ted williams had this extraordinary vision as it would be with a pilot and he saw the plate once and he was like a millimeter off and the umpire said no it's off and they came and measured it and said you're right. >> there was an hbo special about george bush senior that's on. >> oh, 41. >> yeah, 41 that's actually fantastic to witness him or a guy like ted williams who said it as well. when george bush senior talks about -- they have footage of him being rescued. he talks about it like it was a double and he slid into 2nd base. they talk -- these guys were

genuine heros and did things that my generation certainly never did. we're worried about where the remote is. >> bush 41 says maybe i could have done more rather than -- >> the greatest generation when you think about it that's what so many people talk about when they say that. >> there's still a lot of those men around, navy seals our firefighters our cops and military full of them. it's just extraordinary people. what we do is really what we do, but what those people do is really. >> have you developed a relationship with firefighters because of the series. >> it was actually before that. my cousin became a firefighters and a lot of the guys i went to school with in my neighborhood, about 30 or 40 of those guys became firefighters and he died in the line of duty in 1999 along with fire other firefighters and i started my foundation to help those guys and one of my best friends

became a firefighter when we were in our 20s. my admiration is never ending and i look at those guys, you guys just did that piece about firefighters, they're our first responders. on 9-1-1 they were our first responders. i can't say enough about them. >> totally agree. >> before you go charlie said something that made you a little jealous. is there something about you that would make charlie jealous? >> i can tell you one right away. >> your family. >> i'm the luckiest guy in the world. i'm a broken down hockey player that couldn't do math and science and the nun's kept telling me nothing good was going to happen and i'm that lucky and meeting my wife was the best idea i ever had. >> we thank the nun dr. leery.

>> you called me dr. leary. >> just ahead legends in their field, musician neil young, this morning they give us a look at their latest project. >> howard bernstein with you on this tuesday morning. beautiful out there. had a front go through yesterday. produced some wind damage in the richmond area. that front through the carolinas now. we have clear skies low humidity levels levels and a flies little breeze today out of the northwest, 10 to 15 gusting to 20. highs today beautiful, in the low 80s. 9 news now is sponsored in part by nissan.

i remember i used to have a pup tent. i lived in this pup tent out here during the summer, and my dad would call out of the back door to wake me up, and i'd have to stick my hand out of the tent to let him know that i was awake. i slept on a cot in a little pup tent so i could be out closer to my chickens. i think that's why i was out there. >> everybody likes to be close to their chickens, legendary singer and song writer neil young goes back to his hometown in canada in the new film neil young journeys. he takes us on that trip to visit his routes just before taking the stage at toronto mass see hall last year. >> the movie is the third

concert film these two have made together and we're delighted to have them both here in studio 57. welcome. >> this is one great collaboration the two of you. what makes it work. >> we like each other. we have fun, you know. we respect each other and so we it's a give and take thing. it's a good relationship. >> it began with southern man and the title sequence for philadelphia. >> southern man i attempted to see if it would be possible to get a neil young song that addressed home phobia and aids prejudice in the same way that southern man addressed racism, and neil wrote that very beautiful song philadelphia. >> he nailed it at the end. part of the leer ricks city of brotherly love, place i call home, don't turn your back on me. i don't want to be alone. love lasts forever. i remember neil at the end of the movie and the song comes in your voice, that velvety voice of yours you're like a puddle

when you're sitting in the chair listening to that. you knew instantly that okay, that's going to work. >> oh, my god yeah. >> neil how do you describe your voice. >> i try to stay away from that one. >> do you? >> oh, yeah i let other people describe. >> i would say velvet liquid. this is what i learned about you, i loved on the documentary, you and jonathan are in a car you're driving and you say the best place for you to listen to music is in a car. it doesn't matter what kind of radio it is it can be a cheap radio. why is that? >> because you're moving. it's like a constantly changing picture. music and a changing picture is comfortable. if you stay in one place listening to music you start to close your eyes. >> i get that. i get it. >> if you're driving i don't think you should do that, don't close your eyes. >> no, weapon we don't

recommend that. >> you're there. i mean, in the quiet of your own car and you're moving. >> you're inside your own space. >> exactly. >> having done these, what do you look for? i mean take journeys, what are you looking for you didn't know about this guy? what do you want us to see here? >> you know, if you boil down to the earlier question, you know, what makes it work when we work together, it's neil's music. it's his song writing. it's his musicianship, it's his -- the character he assumes when he sings songs. so my job is just to try to as best i possibly can figure out how we can kind of sinmatically get inside these songs and get inside him and put them on screen as best we possibly can. in terms of the way neil young journeys -- it's a performance film like the other two we've

done but it's also an authentic documentary. we never want to repeat ourselves. the first picture we did together was neil young heart of gold, the most elegant music film you could ever hope to see, perfectly designed, lovingly designed. this piece is different because neil is alone on stage and therefore we're deprived of the ingredient we had going for us on the other movies which was the way neil interacts with the other musicians. >> it almost looked like there were cameras on the guitar or cameras in the car. i heard you had six cameras at one point true. it was very simply shot. >> we had six camera operators and then deklin quinn had icon cameras and they're about the size of a cigarette patch and he attached them to unlikely places. >> when you write a song, how

do you do that? what are you looking for? >> i don't do anything. >> it comes to you? >> i just wait like the hunter, you know, looking for a rabbit to come out of a hole, but if you stand there looking down the hole, it's not going to come out. it's going to hang out. >> you're waiting for what? what are you waiting for? >> waiting for the rabbit. i'm looking for the rabbit to come out of the hole so that's the song. that's my little metaphor. >> but in one point in the documentary you get so excited it almost looks like you spit on the camera. >> i did spit. >> i wasn't sure neil, what that was. >> that was phlegm. >> it was saliva, not phlegm. >> it was saliva cam, another first. saliva cam. i saw that and i went it's so sigh cadelle lick.

it's all distorted people think he's a straight film maker but there's no way he's gone psycho dellic on this movie. >> this is a song where neil puts himself in the shoes of a human being who's spearmented with every drug known to man and it's a terrained unhinged song. when as fate would have it the little cameras that deklin had attached to the micro phone it just so happened that when neil unleashed this song, you know as half the spinningers spew a little bit and the camera slipped down a little bit and we found -- >> changed the angle a bit. >> and it became the perfect shot to portray this journey the singer takes.

>> let's get that straight, there's nothing auto biographical about that song is there. >> no, yes,. >> are they all autobiographical in one way or another? >> some of them aren't. >> which is the one that is most autobiographical? >> well, you know, almost all of them. >> i'm being as direct as i can be. >> you know, really, they are all -- i mean, you know it's crime in the city -- they come out of me, and i'm just here. >> you love every bit of it? >> i really do charlie, you know, it's not all great while it's happening but i'm glad to be here for it. >> and so are we. thank you neil. >> beautiful music. beautiful. >> thank you charlie. >> thank you. >> journeys is the film directed by john deme starring neil young. >> it pays to have a little patience in life. this morning author frank

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