it's monday, july 16, 2012. welcome to studio 57 at the cbs broadcast center. i'm charlie rose. erica hill is off today. mitt romney takes heat from both sides of the aisle over releasing more of his tax returns and more of our conversation with the president and the first lady, including why this race has gotten so negative so quickly. i'm gayle king. hillary clinton gets a very rude welcome in egypt. utah hiker survives a nearly month-long ordeal in the wilderness. i'm norah o'donnell. disgraced congressman anthony weiner may try to make his way back into politics. will voters forgive and forget? we'll look ahead. first, we begin with a look at today's eye-opener. your world in 90 seconds.

he didn't gain any tax advantages from having investments in the cayman eye bands, bermuda, then show us. show the american people. tax questions dog the romney campaign. >> release the tax returns tomorrow. it's crazy. you take the hit for a day or two. >> if this were the early rounds a boxing match, romney is on the ropes and obama is throwing all the punches. >> many people looking at the campaign so far and saying there's an effort to tear down your opponent and make him unacceptable. >> secretary of state hillary clinton is in israel this morning after her first visit to egypt. protesters threw shoes, water bottles and tomatoes at clinton's motorcade in alexandria last night. >> egypt is working to free two americans held hostage by tribesmen. >> lightning, blamed in the deaths of two people in texas. >> the heat wave making drought conditions worse, rivaling the infamous dust bowl of the 1930s.

>> i don't think there's any saving it even if you got rain. it's too late. >> firefighters in northern california lost their first house. nearly 200 more homes are threatened. >> being tested today with heathrow expecting the busiest day on record. athletes started arriving. the tour de france has been overshadowed by sabotage. one of 30 ride others to suffer a puncture. >> all that. >> spike lee has a souvenir. >> make a movie out of that one. >> and all that matters. >> >> he may be the boss but somebody has more authority than bruce springsteen. >> they turned off the singers' mikes as the crowd chanted. >> flavor flav hijacked an airplane loud speaker. >> we are in the -- >> let me hear you say flav flav.

captioning funded by cbs well come "cbs this morning." as the summer heats up, so does the race for the white house. some republicans are agreeing with the obama campaign on one issue this morning, the need for mitt romney to release additional tax returns >> here's what's interesting. the motivations on the opposing sides are quite different. bill plante is at the white house this morning. bill, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, norah. for the second time in two weeks, the obama campaign is on the offensive. they're driving the business practices and financial records of romney and keeping it off the economy. the campaign has a tough new ad and allies of the white house have been all over television demanding that romney release more than just two years of his income tax records. >> romney campaign isn't stupid. they have decided it is better to get a takt on lack of transparency and accountability

versus telling you what's in the taxes. >> republicans have joined the chorus of democrats calling on romney to release more tax returns. >> he should release the tax returns tomorrow. it's crazy. release six, eight, ten years. take the hit for a day or two. >> there's obviously something there. if there was nothing there, he would say have at it. >> they want him to release more tax records to make it go away. they want to talk about loopholes that romney may have used to lessen his tax burden. >> oh, beautiful for spacious skies ♪ >> romney's already public financial information is providing ammunition for a new obama campaign attack ads. it slams romney for having off shore bank accounts as well as for outsourcing jobs while the candidate sings america the beautiful in the background. >> america, america ♪ god shed his grace on thee ♪ and crown -- >> republicans want romney off

the defensive and refocused on what they believe is the president's biggest vulnerability, the economy. it's a weakness the president acknowledged during an interview with charlie rose. >> let's look at your management of the economy. yes, it was a bad hand you were dealt. but you have not made it to what it ought to be. that is the centralality of their campaign. >> that is his argument. if i was in his shoes, i'd be making the same argument. >> that's not the argument he's making. he'll be making the argument that he needs four more years do what he hasn't been able to do so far. he'll be on the road four days this week starting today in cincinnati where he will say that romney's tax plan would create jobs but they're jobs overseas. norah, charlie? >> bill plante, thank you very much. the nasty nature of the campaign has been a storyline for the past few days. when i interviewed the president and mrs. obama last week, i asked him about the turn in tone the race for the white house seems to be taking.

>> many people are looking to the campaign so far and they're saying i see too much negative campaigning and not enough talk about the future. they look at your own ads from your own campaign and then say that rather than talking about the future, there is an effort here to tear down your opponent and make him unacceptable. so there will not be a debate or referendum on the first four years. >> i have to tell you, charlie, if you look at the ads that we do, first of all, we've done a whole slew of positive ads that talk exactly about how we need to change our education system, how we need to change our tax code, how we need to rebuild america. how we need to promote american energy. so those just don't get attention in the news. but we're very much promoting and if you look at my stump speeches, i spend a whole slew of time, sometimes people i say i talk too long because i'm outlining all the things that we want to get done.

what is true is that there's a sharp contrast, probably as sharp as we've seen philosophically between myself and mr. romney. i think he's a patriot. i think he loves his family. but he has a particular theory of how to grow the economy that has to do with providing tax cuts for folks at the very top, eliminating all regulations and somehow that is going to generate solutions to the challenges we face. i've got a very different approach. i think this is entirely appropriate for the american people to understand those two theories and the more detailed we get into what he's saying and what i'm saying, this serves this democratic process well. >> it's about choices. >> politics about choices. >> james carville is a democratic strategist led bill clinton to victory from 199. he's taken the winning slogan from that campaign and changed it a bit for the title of his

new book. it's called "it's the middle class, stupid! ." so you know a bit about negative campaigning as well as positive campaigning. has there been too much or is it a lot because they know it gets results? >> well, i mean, sure, it gets results. negative campaigns, by and large, it works. sometimes it back fires. part of the campaign, i think what the obama people are troo toying do smartly is define romney before he's out of the chute. that's the same thing people did in 2004 with john kerry. >> do you believe that obama's team is doing that so far and that romney has failed to appreciate the fact that he's being defined by them? >> right, i do. i think it's really irritating the republican establishment and the conservative base. what's happening here is not supposed to happen.

a harvard educated community organizer is beating up a republican in a fight. they don't like that. they're supposed to win these kind of political street fights. >> what is it the romney people will be doing? >> romney has got an essential problem. he's made bain at the center of everything. as unpleasant as it is, he has to explain his life in terms of things that -- i understand he was the bishop in the mormon church. he was governor of massachusetts. you might have forgotten that. but he actually was. if you watch his campaign, you never know that. he has to define his tenure at bain as he was supposed to do. he returned money to his investors. he's got to take his campaign nd go to putting him forth as a general problem solver, not a job creator at bain. that was a mistake. the obama people have put the definition on his time at bain

and that was as this company that destroyed jobs and created jobs somewhere else. that's hard to overcome. >> james, the president told charlie that he's run a slew of positive ads. that's true, they run about $25 million in positive ads. but almost the rest of it has been negative ads, 60, $70 million negative ads. >> right. so what? >> mitt romney ran the single most disingenuous ad in the history of presidential politics. the first ad he ran in the campaign on the airways, he said obama is saying if this election is about the economy, we'll lose. what they dp is took a snippet of him in 2008 and obama says john mccain says if this election is about the economy, we'll lose. then they took the ad to washington and were bragging that, hey, we made you show it. we don't care if it's true or not. by the way, romney is a rich guy. he's not a sympathetic character. if he wants to answer it, he has gazillionaire friends. >> how about the middle class to quote your book, you acknowledge this is an effort to distract

from the president's own record, which is 40 months of unemployment above 8%. the cbo last week said you'll have a trillion dollar deficit for a fourth year in a row. >> i think the record, because of people like bain, it's been very difficult in this country. i think the president -- a lot of these companies come in, leverage up the depth, take the jobs overseas, take the profits and put it in switzerland or cayman. that's what bain did. the people don't like that. the president does have to talk about the middle class. i think you're starting to see that increasingly. i think he's going to talk about some of the things he does in the middle class. i think all of this whining on the part of the romney campaign who ran the most negative false ad of this campaign and a campaign that's gotten hundreds of millions of dollars from billionaires -- >> what does the political community think about the fact of this s.e.c. filing that says that mitt romney was the ceo even though he was out running

the olympics. >> what the political committee thinks that romney got into a fight about bain. he's losing the fight. it's getting convoluted. what people know about bain is that they shipped jobs overseas and shipped profit overseas. by the way, that's not good for them to know that about you. >> it's interesting, charlie. you'll see the president on the campaign trail today in cincinnati accusing mitt romney of, in his tax plan for the future, would ship more jobs overseas. now they're tying what romney was in the past to what he will do in the future. you're going to see the president from the stump accusing mitt romney of outsourcing. they're kicking it up a notch and trying to put mitt romney on the ropes. it's going to be really interesting to see. how does romney respond? >> the most significant thing in this campaign was the tiago owe at the end he says romney is not the solution. he's the probable lechlt here you have the incumbent -- when i

saw that, i said to myself, these guys -- i've criticized them in the past. they're really smart. the mitt romneys of the world making this difficult, not the president. it's a good -- it's an interesting kind of segue. but romney has to expand his portfolio beyond just bain. >> should romney talk more about the future and what he would do or what obama didn't do? >> that's a very good question, charlie. obama has to talk about what he's going to do in the second term too. i think that he will. right now is not the time for him to segue out. romney has actually talked about what he would do in the future. he has a 59-point plan believe it or not. he's got his tax plan that he won't tell us how he's going to pay for. he won't tell us his immigration plan. he does have plans for the future. he's got to round them out.

the tax return issue is still going to be around. >> everybody says get it out now. >> yeah, but everybody hasn't seen them. as rahm emanuel pointed out. the only people that saw him is john mccain and he picked sarah palin. maybe we don't want to see them. >> that from a source. the book is called "it's the middle class, stupid." please to see you, jim. more conversations with the obamas in the next half hour. later in the show, the president's thought on a potential second term and how his job has had an impact on the obamas marriage. secretary of state hillary clinton is in israel this morning for a pivotal discussion on the middle east. this morning she met with president shimon peres about egypt's move to a democratic government. margaret brennan has been traveling with the secretary who was in egypt the day before when she was met with a crowd of angry protesters. >> good morning. secretary of state hillary clinton is meeting with top israeli leaders and will tell

him that president morsi said they will abide by the tefrmts the peace treaty. they met with top officials in egypt and told them you have to get out of politics and get back to national security. the issue of those two americans recently kidnapped in the sinai did come up as part of her conversations with egypt's foreign minister. u.s. officials say that the secretary was surprised to learn that there's a perception in egypt that the u.s. manipulated the recent elections in favor of the muslim brotherhood. in fact, her hotel was surrounded by protesters and her motorcade was pelted with food, with water and with shoes as she exited the u.s. consulate in alexandria. now, today the secretary will discuss the push to get iran to stop its nuclear development program, stop its involvement in syria. now, secretary clinton's visit comes two weeks ahead of mitt

romney. this is her first visit to israel in two years and it comes at the end of a grueling 13-day, 9-country stop. she returns to the u.s. this evening. for "cbs this morning," margaret brennan, jerusalem. and congressman jesse jackson jr. needs time to heal according to his mother. he's been an medical leave since june 10th from congress. he is at an undisclosed location recovering from a mood disorder. on friday, his mother said jackson has suffered through what she calls enormous disappointment. >> he thought he was going to be the senator. thought he was going to have a chance to run for mayor. add young people don't bounce back with disappointment like me and my husband. >> jackson remains the target of the house ethics investigation concerning his ties to former governor rod blagojevich who

attempted to sell president obama senate seat. it is time to show you some of the headlines from around the globe. the l.a. times reports women are lagging behind men in getting new jobs. since 2009, men gained 80% of the job create north dakota the united states. including 61% in the -- male dominated manufacturing has rebounded and government jobs where women hold the majority continues to be hit hard. if you shop online like me, the tax break you enjoy may be nearing an end reports the wall street journal. republican governors searching for new revenue are dropping their long-time opposition to imposing a sales tax for online purchases. the data mill reports on sabotage at the tour de france. a spectator threw a box of tacks on the road. 30 riders, including the defending champion got flat tires. some riders had as many as four nails in their tires. >> that's cruel. >> unbelievable.

"the new york times" reports on details of carrie kin di. she may have had a seizure. the former wife of andrew cuomo was arrested with driving under the influence of drugs. she denies the charge. there was an amazing display of northern lights in minnesota that peoria journal star says a powerful solar flare on july 12th led to the nocturnal treat. the glendale news press reports that a bear with 24,000 twitter followers is back. what? >> bare. >> his fans call him glenn bearian. he was found sleeping in a tree near a glendale high school. he was shot with tranquilizer darts and he was returned to the wild once again. okay. the government releases its latest report today on the drought that's gripped more than half of this country. more than 1,000 counties in 26 states have been declared disaster areas by the department of agriculture.

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president obama talks about one of the big disappointments he faced in office. >> my expectation was that we would see more cooperation. but having said that, the basic notion that we are not democrats or republicans first. we're americans first. >> more of my white house interview with the president. and the amazing survival story of a man who spent three weeks wandering throughout desert of southern utah without his gear on "cbs this morning."

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disgraced former congressman anthony weiner reportedly wants to get back into politics, maybe make a run for mayor of new york city. >> we'll look at other politicians who went looking for a second chance. you're watching "cbs this morning."

take a look at this. a landslide in british columbia caught on tape on friday. a larger one had occurred the day before. so a news crew was out covering the aftermath when this happened. the original one crushed several homes. one body has been recovered and three people unaccounted for. welcome back everybody to "cbs this morning." now to politics. my conversation last week with president and mrs. obama touched on everything from the lessons he's learned in his first term to the first couple's relationship. at one point i asked the president if he blamed himself for not bridging the huge partisan gap in washington. >> my wonderful secretary of state when i was running against her in the primary, hillary would, i think, tease me

sometimes about saying just because you say you want to work with republicans, let me tell you, i've been through this. they may not always want to work with you. and i think that, because i knew the hunger that the american people had for that kind of cooperation and the fact that we were going flew as tough of a crisis as we've seen since the great depression, my expectation was that we would see more cooperation. but having said that, the basic notion that we are not democrats or republicans first, we're americans first, and that most of the problems that we face are solvable, not in some ideological way, but in a practical, common sense american way, that i believe as much as ever. i think so do the american people. >> here's something you said. the only way my life makes sense is regardless of culture and race and religion, there's the commonality of these essential human truths and passions and

hopes and pre septs that are universal and we can reach out beyond our differences. if that is not the case, then it is pretty hard for me to make sense of my life. >> yeah. >> you feel that? >> i do. >> you can't make sense of your life because you haven't been able to bridge this gap? >> here's the -- the reason that i remain a happy warrior in this whole process is what michelle and i always talk about, which is when you get out of this town, then my life makes perfect sense because i meet people from all walks of life everywhere i go and they've got the same values, they care about hard work, they care about responsibility, they care about family. so the challenge for me is not so much that i've lost faith in together. the frustration i have right now is that we still need to break the fever here in washington so that this town operates and

reflects those values that are shared by people all across the country. >> meaning what? break the fever? >> break the fever, meaning that we've got to stop thinking in purely political terms about who is on top, who gets advantage. >> some believe that, in fact, you've lost faith in some sense of this business, the capacity to come to compromise and that view this election to say to the country there are two ideologies and they're in conflict. you have to make a decision. >> i do think -- >> as to whether we can go a different direction. >> i do think that the american people are the ultimate tie-breaker. that's our democracy. >> they can break the fever. >> they can break the fever. the american people have to decide whether a sharply ideological shift by the republicans is what they want. this may be. it may be whether the traditional balanced responsible approach that we're taking is

one that is most likely to lead to prosperity for most people. >> where will you take the country and what will be the significant achievement and why can you do it in the next four years if you could not do it in the first four years? if you could not produce the grand bargain, how can you do it in the next four? >> well, first of all, i think it's important to know, we did an awful lot in the first four years. >> of course. >> so one of the things you learn in this office is everything takes a little longer than you'd like. >> that's a lesson of the presidency. >> right. but when i think about the next four years, what's undone? the most important issue we face as a country is how do we build an economy where the middle class is strong and growing and those who are willing to work hard can fight their way into the middle class, and the components that we've put in place have made a difference. but what we can also continue to do is change our tax code so that we're rewarding companies

that invest here in the united states as opposed to shipping jobs overseas. investing in our education system so we have great new teachers, especially in math and science. making college more affordable. invest in our infrastructure and bring down our deficit in a responsible balanced way. those are all components of an overarching strategy. >> what do you think the lessons have been that might guarantee success in a second term in that happens? >> when i think about what we've done well and what we haven't done well, the mistake of my first -- couple of years was thinking that this job was just about getting the policy right. and that's important. but the nature of this office is

also to tell a story to the american people that gives them a sense of unity and purpose and optimism, especially during tough times. i need to do a better job of that in my second term. >> better job of explaining? >> well, explaining but also inspiring. >> hope is still there. i mean, hope doesn't get actualized in 3.5 years. if that were the case, we'd be out of luck as a country. so people still need to grasp on to something important, and they need a leader and a message and a set of possibilities for their lives. >> you had an enormously successful health care legislation because the supreme court did not declare it

unconstitutional. >> my proudest achievement is table liesing the economy to avert a great depression. because if i don't do that, nothing else matters. we're not where we need to be and you're right, the unemployment rate is way too high to where i want it to be. and a lot of folks are still hurting and struggling out there. but the fact of the matter is, is that we were able to stop the hemorrhaging of jobs, get the economy growing again, add 4.4 million jobs, 500,000 manufacturing jobs, save the auto industry. all those things provide us at least a base from which now to grow. and the central question becomes building on what we've done. where do we go from here? and making sure that we are constantly thinking about growing this economy, not from the top down, because we tried

that and it didn't work and hasn't worked in our historically. but rather, how do we make sure that every man and woman out there who is willing to work hard has a chance. that's what we're going to be spending these next four months debating and that's what i hope to be spending the next four years working on. >> norah o'donnell is at the white house and covers the first family every day. what's the question you most want him to answer? >> well, i think he said to you, we've got to break the fever. we've got to break the stalemate. how is he going to break the fever and the stalemate if republicans hold on to the house and might win the senate? we may be looking at deadlock again even if president obama is re-elected and so does something need to change. how he expects to deal with congress. i guess this fiscal cliff, this crisis, this fiscal armageddon that's coming, where is the planning involved there? >> is there anything about our

understanding of him that differs from -- or your understanding of him that's different from the perception of the man we see here? you don't get to be president without being tough. >> right. i mean, look, i think -- i thought him as he's very relaxed. he talks about his vision, he talks about the middle class. behind the scenes, this is someone who is wanliging a toug campaign. he sees politics as a necessary evil and in order to get re-elected and achieve -- >> do you think he likes politics? >> not as much as others. >> retail politics. >> retail politics. he's certainly out there on the stump. >> four more years of it, whether he likes it or not, he wants to be there four more years. all right. another story we're following this morning. one rescuer said the man was probably just a day way from death. this is about a hiker in utah who survived nearly a month in

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chained him down, then he wouldn't have gone. but there was really nothing we could do. >> in early june, he set off. but in boulder, utah, all his food and camping gear were stolen. he called his father, who suggested he hitch a ride to page, arizona, 225 miles away by road where he could can pick up money. instead, he set off on foot hiking along the wild he is ka lan day river toward lake powell. >> he said that it was calling him. that particular area. so that's where he wanted to be. >> a doctor who treats people with autism says lefevour's persistence is typical of those with asperger's. >> it's hard for them to take no for an answer. it's hard to redirect them and they can repetitively go after a particular interest or a goal over and over again. >> for almost a month lefevour disappeared until a search helicopter spotted his makeshift camp by the river. his clothes piled on a rock.

>> unbelievable that we found him at all and that he was alive. >> i was completely taken back by how thin he was. >> he had lost about 50 pounds. he survived by drinking river water and eating frogs. his sister believes the same focus that led him to make the risky trip helped keep him alive. >> he survived it. i mean, he did something many people couldn't do. i mean, i certainly couldn't do. i tell you, i would have died out there after a week. >> william is being treated in a utah hospital where his focus now is on recovery. for "cbs this morning," john blackstone, san francisco. i love the fact how survival focuses the mind. >> eating frogs. i'm glad he's okay. amazing

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gayle is at the table. what's up sm. >> i'll tell you. disgraced congressman anthony weiner may be plotting a comeback. with judges steven tyler and jennifer lopez out, people are asking is the beginning of the end for "american idol." how will the hit show reinvent itself? we'll talk with billboard's joe leafy about that. who is your favorite teacher, norah? >> mrs. sawyer. >> mrs. peers sol. >> we all remember. she's national teacher of the year about the five things that make a great teacher. she should know. deepak chopra is here with a key to living a longer life. don't we all want some of that. plus, emmy award winning actress kyra sedgwick, she's here too. you can catch us on facebook, twitter and google plus. we try to make it easy for you

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i believe you know this that i found fascinating. you said, i trust her completely. but at the same time she's also a complete mystery to me in some ways. is that tension between familiarity and mystery that makes for something strong. is that more so now and in this place? >> absolutely. >> that's very sweet. when did you write that? >> 1996. >> that's a good one. >> you know, i am happily surprised at how i think this experience has strengthened rather than diminished our marriage. i rely on her even more now than i did back then. and i do think that part of the great thing about our marriage

is we have complete trust and honesty and that keeps the relationship fresh and young. >> it is 8:00. welcome back to "cbs this morning." i'm gayle king. erica hill is off today. but charlie, i have to say, i always think it's nice to see a couple in a marriage saying that they're happily surprised. you know about being married too. happily surprised is nice. >> that's a wonderful ingredient in a marriage. she completely surprises me and there are things about her i don't even know. there's a certain mystery that remains about her. it's a good hinge for a relationship whether you're married or not. >> absolutely. >> don't you agree, norah o'donnell? >> i don't know. i've been with my husband for 20 years. i don't know if there's any mystery left. >> doesn't jeff come home and you say, boy, you surprised me today. i never knew that about you. >> this is too personal. i am going to turn the color of my dress. >> i'm charlie rose, norah o'donnell is here. the political rumor mill is in high gear this morning here in new york. reports that former congressman anthony weiner is thinking of

running for public office again. >> weiner resigned last year you may remember after sending out sexually explicit photos on his twitter account. there are published reports that say he may run for the office of new york mayor. >> lee cowan says weiner may be the latest in the long line of officials asking voters to give them a second chance. >> bad decisions. >> anthony weiner's is not the resume most campaign directors would relish. first, there's the pictures the congressman sent to several young women. then there was the lying about the pictures. then the tearful resignation over the pictures. did we mention the pictures? so today i'm announced my resignation from congress. >> conventional wisdom dictates that after a tweet storm of the weiner variety, no amount of disaster assistance could rebuild his political career. or could it? given the reaction of voters in the past, history may be on weiner's side. consider congressman charles

rangel. charged in 2010 charged with a dozen ethics violation. did it matter? he just won last month's new york primary. his seat just might be safe. >> i did not have sexual relations with that woman. >> president bill clinton, of course, is the poster child for political redemption. not a proud moment for him or the country. but infidelity hardly ended his political career. >> thank you. >> nor did it for some high wattage presidential hopefuls. both rudolph giuliani and newt gingrich had well-publicized affairs and remarriages. never became their party's nominee. cheating hardly seemed a deal breaker in the eyes of many voters. just what would? it's hard to say. >> i'm going to to leave here and go about the business of government. >> take d.c.'s mayor, marion barry. in 1990, he was caught on tape smoking crack with an fbi informant. but he went on to be re-elected.

eventually ending up d.c.'s mayor yet again. it's not that moral and ethical lapses can't end political careers. >> i did an awful, awful lot that was wrong. >> cheating on his wife that was suffering from cancer, john edwards ended his bid for the white house. but he now hints his public life might not be over. >> i don't think god is through with me. i really believe he thinks there's still some good things i can do. >> maybe anthony weiner feels the same way. maybe voters really don't care what a candidate does in his private life or maybe they really can forgive and just want to forget. for "cbs this morning," i'm lee cowan in new york. well, there certainly is evidence of for giving and for getting, but i'll bet it's a rare time that anthony weiner wishes his name was anything else. anthony rose. an ththony o'donnell, maybe anty

king. it remains to be seen what happens. >> when you look at what people have come back from, it does show that american voters are willing to take a second look. in some cases. >> uh-huh. i'm thinking he must think there's some interest, otherwise, there wouldn't be a conversation. >> he's sitting on four plus million dollars in campaign funds that have been raised that he can use. >> no doubt. i think they think this period of him out of the spotlight has been a recovery period. >> he has a remarkable wife. just stunning. >> yes. we wouldn't be voting for her. but that would be interesting. hume a was running, i don't think there would be an issue. to be continued. >> it says something if the wife forgives, i think. >> okay.

some big talent is leaving "american idol." jennifer lopez and steven tyler say they're moving on. we'll see if it spells the end for the hit reality show. tomorrow, there's a super model roundtable. this is going to be good. we'll hear from beverly johnson and carol alt and maybe mr. rose would join us at the table. >> you think charlie wants to be in that conversation? nah. >> maybe. we'll see if he's available. we'll see if he's available. you're watching "cbs this morning." [ female announcer ] looking for a bit of indulgence?

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the yankees' bat went flying into the stands, right to spike lee. who did the right thing. he -- nobody was hurt. lee showed off his swing to the crowd and got to keep the bat. >> i wonder if that's his son there? >> it is his son. he likes basketball and baseball. go spike. the right place at the right time. >> good seats too. really good seats. >> as we looked around the web, we found a few reasons to make a long story short with all of us at the table. i like it. the huffington post reports that more than 200 passengers were stranded in shanghai for three days. it started with mechanical problems, a boarding issue delayed the flight. the crew did not have enough time to make the flight under federal safety rules. they finally made it home saturday morning after the passengers staged a revolt. they say. united says that the passengers will get full refunds. >> i hope they got dim sum while they were waiting. >> a dramatic twist in the bat

of the sexes. women have scored higher in iq tests than men for the first time reports a telegraph.com. james flynn, an iq testing expert says it may be the demands of juggling family life and building a career that has made women more intelligent or just that women are just now realizing their own potential. you like that, don't you? >> i agree. what about you norah? >> i agree too. i don't think we needed that report. >> no news there. >> it's helpful for charlie to know. >> exactly. >> he's pleased to know, by the way. >> good. the daily news reports there was a bomb scare at the bod way hit spider man turn off the dark. police say a theater goeer made a bad joke saying his luggage would explode if the show was bad. guess who was expected to be in the audience, first lady michelle obama and her kids. no bombs were found. >> not a good time to say just

kidding. basketball star jason kid hasn't played a game with the new york knicks and he's in big trouble already. he was arrested for allegedly drunk driving on sunday night in the hamptons. the ten-time allstar crashed his suv into a telephone and just last week he signed with the nicks for $3 million a year which says he could probably hire a driver. just saying. >> indeed. the new york post.com reports that a curfew got the better of bruce springsteen and paul mccart mi. mccartney joined springsteen in hyde park saturday night in london. they ran past the 10:30 curfew so the mikes were shut off in the interest of public health and safety? that's a long story short. >> boo, his. >> here's paul mccartney who jumps on the stage as a surprise. the two worked it out. surprise to the crowd. at 10:31 somebody kills the plug. >> buzz kill. >> not a good sense of humor or doesn't know good music.

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walk this way. that would be you, steven tyler. there's a lot of buzz over big departures at "american idol." last week, judges steven tyler and jennifer lopez announced they are leaving the show. >> some say if the right judges aren't found, it could mean an eventual swan song for the popular program and billboard reporter joe leafy is here with us this morning. good morning, joe. >> good morning. >> what's happening with the pshow? >> the show is changing. the show has to change. it's got to keep up and compete

with two other shows, the voice and x factor. they've done it younger. they've used real recording stars. people who are making hits right now. britney spears is going to be on the x factor. adam levine, blake shelton on the voice. this changed the game for "american idol." they've got to keep up. >> how critical are the judges? when it first started, you weren't really looking for the judges. now, i find i'm looking to see who is going to judge. >> yeah. as i say, i think kwx the voice" and x factor raised the stakes on that. the judges aren't the whole show at the same time. "american idol" has to make a choice, in between making great tv, are we just about making a tv show or really about finding the next star? "american idol," unlike the voice or x factor, has done it once or twice. they've made real stars. >> you've got "american idol," x factor, and now the voice. do you think maybe, joe, that there's too many? i remember, i used to be front and center for "american idol" because it was the only game in town. now that there's so many --

>> i think there's a little viewer fatigue. one stops and another one starts. there are other ones on in the summer. there are a whole bunch we're not mentioning. frankly, i think we could start one here. we could start one here. "cbs this morning" idol. i'm judgmental. you sing. i'll judge. we can get it off the ground. >> perhaps, you weren't aware, we're trying to get viewers. we're trying to get them to come to the table. >> this is a big deal for fox. "american idol" is a profit center for them. >> it's their biggest show. it was the biggest game in town. the biggest show on television until it tumbled 25% in the ratings last season. it's still only number 2 to sunday night football. 20 million viewers. most other shows would envy that number of viewers. but for "american idol," that's a decline on top of a decline. they've tumbled for two seasons. the show is 12 years old going into this season. you know, people grew up with it. people are aging out. people are coming in.

maybe they've had too much. >> but see, you made a good point, though. when you said that it's tumbled 25%. the number is still ginormous. >> yes. >> while there may be viewer fatigue, there's still a lot of people watching. >> there's still a lot of people watching and crucially to fox, there's still a lot of money to be made. if they can find the right people to do it and tune it up in the right way, they can keep this on the air for quite a few more years. >> j-lo is leaving, steven tyler is leaving. >> we don't know about randy jackson. will he stay or go? >> my prediction is i think they're going to revamp the whole thing. i was surprised jennifer lopez was leaving. i thought it was a negotiating tactic. i was wrong. >> i think it may have been a negotiating tactic. but i'm not sure they were willing to meet her price. britney spears is getting a lot of money to do the x factor. i'm sure j-lo doesn't want a penniless. >> if you were making the decision, who would you put on the panel? you had to pick three new people, who would you pick snoo. >> mariah carey and the talks

are serious supposedly. it would be a great get for them. it would be good for mariah. she could work steadily. she doesn't have to leave home, leave the kids. >> she has baby. >> it would be great for her. >> that's one. >> i'm lobbying for me. i want the job. >> i'm going to go out on a limb, you ain't getting the job. do your kids watch, norah? >> they're too young. they go to bed at 7:00. it's good fun. >> it is good fun. >> thank you joe, levy. >> now over to deepak chopra and kyra sedgwick. you only see that on "cbs this morning." there's deepak coming up next. you're watching "cbs this mornng." your local news is next. why should our wallets tell us what our favorite color is?

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♪ abc, 123 ♪ >> that's a good choice in the music today for obvious reasons. you'll see in a second. back in april, we announced the 2012 national teacher of the year right here on "cbs this morning." guess what? she's back. rebecca milwaukee joins us again today. >> hi. >> good morning. >> she's, as you know a seventh grade teacher from burbank, california. president obama officially gave rebecca the award noting her commitment to education. she will share the five things that make a great teacher. again, welcome. >> thank you. >> did you like the music coming in? >> i love it. >> that's an ode to you. >> number one, you've got rebecca in spades. the e-word.

>> he's an e-ticket ride. enthusiasm. >> you got it in spades. >> kids are tough critics. they know inside of ten seconds if a teacher likes them, likes their job. they know. they can read you. they have a sensor. you have to capitalize on that. you've got to take that sense of your own enthusiasm and excitement and meet kid where they're at, with what they're interested in and use their passions, their interests, their hobbies, what they're curious about to feel your instruction. you have to be happy in your job and love kids. that's evident from the minute they step through the door. >> it's also important that you don't have a one size fits all approach. you have a classroom with many different personalities, many different kinds of kids. >> right. every state has a set of expectations and standards that we have to have kids master. that's what i know about my job. what i don't know is the kids. so the minute i meet them, i find out what you like, what are you into? is it music, dance, is it anime? is it debate? we have to figure out what kids are into and design our

curriculum about that. once you can hook kids with what they love to do, they'll go with you where you need to take them. >> what about communication skills? >> is essential. today we're so connected but parents are working long hours and families don't see them during the day. using social media like a facebook page, twitter, you have to survey parents and say how do you want me to connect with you about what we're doing in the classroom. i have a parent who could only get texts. she was a high-powered attorney. every time there was something that was great. i sent her a text. she was so connected. she was a busy lady who cared a ton about her kid and what was going on. however you can reach them. >> twitter and facebook. you're all in favor of that sf. >> absolutely. we have to throw open the doors of the school. i think not enough americans know what's going on in classrooms. there is some great things going on. i'm so excited about what's happening in the schools. >> last time you were here, you

were jumping out of your chair. >> i'm like a third grader. i'm sorry. >> flexibility is key. i think about all the great teachers. before you came, we went around the table and all name our teachers. flexibility is key. >> what are were you going to say about norah. who is the teacher the one who changed your life or saw something in you? everybody has somebody. >> what do you think about the debate in testing? do you think there's too much standardized testing? >> i think there's a thirst to quantify what it is teachers do so we can get a handle on how to make every teechler great and be competitive globally. i get that quest. it's like going for a physical and saying the temperature that the nurse took is your health profile. that's not it. it's a piece of it. it's an important piece of it. we do have to have numbers about whether kids are learning. that's why we're there. >> what's the best metric for that? >> oh, gosh, i want an evaluation system that comes and sees the all of me.

the all of every teacher. you need to see the rapport with kids, if you're en caging the kids. you need to know if the kids are learning. hi, that's why we're there. >> test scores -- >> it's part of a really nice picture. as soon as you throw open the classroom doors and get people to see, whether your principal or community members or you guys to see what's going on, it becomes crystal clear. the incredible job teachers are doing to help kids learn. it's a little bit about the tests and a lot about everything else. >> the most important to me, we could all take this lesson is compassion. no matter what you do, i think that's so key that's the best one of your -- >> it's this piece where what we all bring to the job is wisdom and mastery of our content and knowledge about the way kids learn best. what they bring into the classroom is something else completely. learning disabilities, hunger, homelessness, poverty. i had a kid last year whose mom was dying of breast cancer. i thought we were going to lose her. he acted out.

he was not in a position to learn. he hurt people, he hurt kids. teachers didn't quit on him. they understood where that kid was at and what he needed. that's what great teachers do. that's not -- you can't tell that from bubbling -- >> we saw you before you were going to the white house. you met the president. >> i did. >> all that. everything that comes with that. which i think is nice. no mat who are is in the white house. >> you were talking with bill gates about education and got family reading time. >> it's an incredible -- >> family reading time known at your house as -- >> art. >> davis, you better be reading tonight. >> the family meeting time. >> i love that. >> great to have you here. >> continued success. you can see rebecca's latest book club, what is that? >> oh, my gosh. my personal book club is called wild. it's the cheryl stray books. >> very familiar. thank you, rebecca. you can now turn to you-tube for daily inspiration. deepak chopra is here to tell us

approximate that. wonder what he's

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♪ we could have had it all ♪ deepak chopra has been influences millions of people for decades through books, cd's and media appearances. >> now the position and alternative medicine pioneer is launching a new lifestyle channel along with his children. we're pleased to have him here. >> thank you. >> why the you-tube channel? >> we wanted to reach younger demographic, elevate the conversation, talk about creativity, imagination, insight, intuition, choice making, conflict resolution, well-being. >> was is your idea, deepak? >> i thought deepak and you-tube. what's wrong with this picture. >> it's the kids' idea. >> they came to you and said -- >> they said you got to be cool. >> i think those glasses are

pretty cool. >> i said, i'll need your help. there's a different language on you-tube. >> we were talking about social media. you tweet all the time, including on the golf course. >> i do. you know, i reached over a million followers recently. >> norah o'donnell is one of your followers. what do you get from him, norah? >> i get when he's playing golf. he tweets pictures of himself playing golf. i'm like, this guy is living the dream. >> lifestyle, you're looking for lifestyle insight? >> you talk about meditation, other things. there are sayings about how to live your life. how do you sort of do that? you say you never get angry. i don't believe it. >> i don't, actually. i don't. i watch my reaction to react. in the mirror witnessing of it. i let it go. >> really? >> we've been talking this morning about the white house and the president. one of the things that everybody wants to know is the president in the next four years, what he hopes will be his significant achievement.

what is it that you're about and hope to achieve in the life deepak? >> i want to influence the critical mass of consciousness in the direction of peace, sustainability, conflict resolution, social justice, economic justice. >> that seems daunting? >> it is. >> don't we all want that? >> yeah. but it won't happen unless we transform ourselves. as gandhi said, you have -- >> how would you measure that? what's the metric for that? >> there are demographic metrics that 1% to 2% of a population influences the trends in the population. today we call these the cultural creatives and they're setting the new standard for everything. from how we care about the environment to how do we resolve conflicts, how do we exercise our choices, what kind of food we eat, et cetera.

even the fashions are being determined by it. 50%, the fundamentalist are about 24% and the cultural creatives right now are about 25% and increasing. >> the cultural creatives. >> creatives. >> that's a new term for me. >> cultural creative. >> i want to be. >> looking for a more holistic integrated way to look at the world. >> i like the sound of it. i want to go back to norah's thing. i didn't write that down. put it in my blackberry later. norah's point, i read when you never got upset, you never get angry. how are you able to do that? i don't have a short fuse. >> you add to the melodrama. there's no creativity in hysteria and melodrama.

you've got to have sobriety. noord to have sobriety -- >> fundamentalism. >> how do you release when somebody irritates you? how do you release it? >> exercise, golf, meditation, music, yoga, breathing, imagination, visualization. >> you teach and practice. who has been the -- who has shaped your mind and attitude more than anything or anybody else other than gandhi. >> i used to read this huxly -- these are my mentors really. >> philosophers and psychologists? >> yeah. >> how will it work? how will your you-tube channel work? your grandchildren or children who came to you and -- your children are adults. >> yes. >> and my grandchildren too, who are ten, seven and five. >> so did they come to you and say -- what did they say? i know they said be cool.

>> these kids who are less than ten years of age, they start their day with you-tube. they don't even watch tv. they start their day with you-tube. >> more than facebook? >> more than facebook. it's the second largest search engine in the world today is you-tube after google. they're the same company. >> you're not concerned that there's something in conflict with using social media with some of your teachings, which is sometimes too much of this facebook time or twitter time or texting time doesn't lead towards a more peaceful -- >> right. technology is neutral. what we do with it is up to us. i think it's the extension of our mind. example today on our launch, we have lisa ling, we have 50 kids from urban new york in the housing projects. we have president fox joining us on the google hangout to talk about how can we elevate the conversation. >> cool. >> i like the idea. continued success. >> i like the conversation.

>> i like his glasses. >> my grandchildren chose it. >> what do they call you? >> they call me na na. >> i have a five-year-old who speaks chinese, english, spanish and indie. >> i have a five-year-old -- >> future of human. that's the global human. >> that's right. >> i feel so calm. >> yeah. >> i'm thinking i feel cool today. >> thank you, deepak. >> thanks for having me. always a pleasure. >> always good to have you. we've happily watched her put the bad guys behind bars for years. now we're sadly by eagerly watching the final episodes "the closer" starring kyra sedgwick. kyra is here as it comes to a close. she'll join us at the table after the break.

i've always given my professional best and i've always, always done everything he told me to do. >> yeah, yeah. >> just assumed he had my back. but he doesn't, he doesn't have my back. it's really upsetting. i'm really upset. >> i can see that. i'm not going to sit here and defend pope. >> you can't. he has no defense. kyra sedgwick has been in the acting business for more than three decades. >> she's won an emmy, golden globe for her popular tv show called "the closer" which is single tear, now in its final season. hello and welcome kyra sedgwick. >> thank you very much. >> are you feeling single tear but also ready? >> absolutely. there was a lot of boo hooing the last month or so of the show. yeah, i'm excited about the future. i mean, it was my choice. it was time. it felt like. >> now for people who haven't

seen the show, because i became hooked with that first iconic line. go ahead and say it. when we first met chief johnson. >> well, someone calls her a -- she said if i liked that, i'd still be married. >> when i heard that line, i thought it's going to be a different kind of show. they call her the closer because she can come in at the end and get the confession like nobody's business. >> that's right. >> i read that you were reluctant at first to take the role because it shoots, you're here, they're there with your family. >> >> right. >> kevin bacon and your two kids. >> right. >> are you glad you did it? >> i am. i don't have a lot of regrets in my life. that's not one of them. the family is still intact so far. >> should we be concerned mrs. bacon? >> no. i'm always ready for the other shoe to drop. i don't know about you guys. and you know the show is just a phenomenal success in many different ways. i mean, creatively, personally,

it was wonderful. >> that's what cable offers these days, isn't it? an opportunity for really good actors to find a place to do a series that has meaning. >> absolutely. absolutely. >> you know, i heard you describe, i didn't know what it meant but i like it. the 20-something that oprah for the 20-somethings. when you heard that characterization of you, what did you think? i'm wondering what advice you give 20-somethings. >> i thought a new career. no, i thought wow, i couldn't believe that. actually, it was -- i had spoken to a reporter after seeing "girl". >> on hbo. >> i said something along the lines of oh, gosh, i'm not going to remember. that what i thought girls did very well was show the disconnect between the way that -- the age that women are in their 20s mentally and emotionally and the way -- and men are. and often they're not in the same place. >> yes. >> women are trying to figure

out what's wrong with them, why can't they connect with men their own age. but it's because men their own age are kind of still boys. that was sort of the idea i think. i also talked about honoring yourself and not abandoning yourself even if you think that other people are doing things that you're not doing. just being, i don't know -- thinking well of yourself. >> yes. >> something like that. >> it's sad that your show, the closer is closing at the end of the season. do you think that you had as a character been sort of a cultural icon in some ways? i mean, you represent a really strong feminist character. you've got this great sort of southern accent. you're tough. you've got a little bit of a mouth on you. in some ways you're sort of pushing through cultural barriers. do you see that? >> i think the wonderful thing about brenda leigh. there are many wonderful things about her. she's a powerful woman who never apologizes for her power. i think that's unusual.

>> the femininity. it's not a weakness, it's a strength. >> right. >> it's almost rare that you see that on tv. >> that's right. she embraces her womanhood and uses it to make people underestimate her. she's very much a woman. she's fragile and she's strong and she's everything. >> what's next? >> i have a movie coming out in august 31st. movie called the possession. it's a good old-fashioned horror movie, scary but character driven that i'm really proud of. i don't know. i'm looking for that next great thing. >> open to all possibilities. >> absolutely. >> you know what i think about you, you and kevin have been married such a long time. you got married in your 20s. your son is now? >> 23. >> you were the same age as your son, 23. >> can you imagine being married at 23 nowadays? >> no, i really can't. >> i look at that and go wow. >> i know. i look at my kids and think, who are you? >> what's your daughter's name.

>> sosie. i thought it was unusual without being weird. >> i was doing a show and one of the painters, the spec painters, her name was sosie. i said that's an unusual name. i love that name. i took it. stole it. >> kyra thank you so much. say hello to kevin. >> thank you so much. it's good to see you guys. >> that does it for us this morning. up next is your local news. we'll see you tomorrow right here at this table on "cbs this morning." >> coming back, norah? >> i think so. >> coming back, norah? >> i think so. >> thank you. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com

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