good morning. it is tuesday, july 17th, 2012. welcome to studio 57 at the cbs broadcast center. i'm charlie rose. erica hill is off today. america faces its worse drought in more than half a century. so, could it slow down any hopes of an economic recovery? i'm gayle king. pins and needles in the air as passengers on delta flights find a dangerous surprise. and i'm nora o'donnell. major mess in london, and the olympics haven't even started. we're live with what's causing the problem. but first, as we do every morning, we begin with a look at today's "eye opener," your world in 90 seconds. >> heat warnings and advisories are in effect in 16 states from the midwest to the east coast. >> a heat wave bakes half the

nation. as historic drought takes hold in the heartland. >> i've farmed this particular farm for 25 years, and this is going to be the worst crop that we've had here. >> over half of the country into moderate or extreme drought, the largest in 50 years. >> farmers and business owners bracing for what experts say will be a certain jump in food prices. >> next year, food's going to cost, isn't it? >> it might. >> yeah, that's what i'm thinking. mitt romney's team is suggesting he could pick a running mate by the end of the week. >> governor romney's experience has been investing in what were called pioneers of the business of outsource. >> who cares? pioneers opened up the west. bain was just like the donner party, they ate the weak. two people are killed when shots were fired at an outdoor barbecue in toronto. 19 others were also injured late monday. an mta bus driver is called a hero after he caught a little girl as she plummeted from a third-floor window. delta air lines is trying to figure out how needles got into six sandwiches served to some business-class passengers.

a presidential smooch. >> and that was actually the second attempt. >> he put the rebound back in, that's what happened. >> all that and all that matters. >> there are more indications that jeremy lin may be heading to houston. and police have released jason kidd's mug shot from his arrest for drunk driving. >> on "cbs this morning." >> if i just signed with the knicks, i'd probably start drinking, too. captioning funded by cbs welcome to "cbs this morning." it's been a long, dry summer for much of the u.s. and things aren't getting much better. a new report says the massive drought gripping the u.s. is the largest since 1956. more than half the nation experienced moderate to extreme drought last month. >> and with no relief in sight, the dangerously dry conditions may soon start having a noticeable impact on the price of everything from food to gasoline, and anna werner is in

jonestown, texas. good morning, anna. >> reporter: good morning, nora and charlie. we're at the edge of lake travis, which is a popular recreation spot for many texans, but the problem is not going to be just how much it costs them to drive here or to eat out here, but what they're going to see when they get here. parts of a lake are virtually dried up. the water should be right here at my feet. instead, it's 30 feet down. the biggest drought in more than half a century is leaving fields from ohio to california dried up and desperate for rain. >> we've never seen a drought like this. you can see firsthand how depleted, how serious this matter is, this drought. >> reporter: the department of agriculture estimates that nearly 40% of the nation's corn crop is in poor condition, which economist chris hurt says is bound to have a ripple effect on the economy. >> well, there's no question, this is a major drought, and it's going to cost tens of

billions of dollars. >> reporter: here's why. according to the usda, corn accounts for more than 90% of feed grain production, so as the price of corn goes up, so does the cost of feeding and maintaining cattle, which could lead to higher prices for meat and dairy products in the grocery store, hitting consumers at an already tough economic time. hurt says these prices alone could reach record levels and stay there well into 2015. >> that means that out of our paychecks, we have to spend more in our family budget on food, and that means less spending in the general economy. >> reporter: and that's not all. you may also wind up paying for the drought at the pump, as corn prices drive up ethanol costs. businesses that depend on outdoor recreation could also feel the impact. beau theriot says he's already noticed a dip in business in his restaurant on lake travis near austin, texas, where the water level has been dropping. >> i'm afraid it's hitting other people on the lake worse than

it's hitting me, but it's still necessary that we get business back up, and having water in the lake will help that, for sure. >> reporter: so, the name of this marina is the easy street marina, but people don't have such an easy time of it when they get here now. it used to be a few steps down. now it's 80 steps to get down to the marina, far down there below me. charlie and nora, back to you. >> ann werner, thank you. bryan walsh is editor at "time" magazine, where he writes about energy, the economy. >> thank you. >> how do we put a comparison on this drought? >> certainly we know this is the worst drought since 1956. more than 50% of the country in a state of drought. that will impact certainly the farm economy in the u.s. i mean, parts of the midwest you're already hearing now, but this will have a bigger impact on fuel prices with ethanol and food prices, too, and it's going to really have an impact on the economy these days, the price to

recover. >> when will we see this? >> we'll see that as the crop unfolds. right now corn is beginning the pollination phase. we'll know in the next few weeks how bad this will be, but there is a sense there is little relief in sight. you'll start to see that coming in the next few weeks, months, impacting your food bill and gas bill as well. >> can you connect this to climate change? >> it can be somewhat connected to climate change. any scientist will be hesitant to say any individual weather event can be caused by climate change. what we know is this is becoming more regular. we know that in climate change, you'll see hotter, drier temperatures, which means, you know, less rain, which often means worse droughts. >> we're talking like six to seven degrees over the national average this year. i mean, it's just hot out there. how much is this going to affect, do you think, beef prices, milk prices, some of the staples that are in our refrigerators? >> well, corn really is sort of the base of the food pyramid in the united states, and it goes through grains to feed animals,

so it will have an impact. actually how much it depends. in the united states, when we buy food, most of what we're spending on packaging and processing. it's not actually on the food itself, so we'll be somewhat insolated, but the united states is of course the bread basket for other parts of the world, so in the poorer parts of the world that need us, they could be hurt worse. >> are there consequences beyond this season because of the drought? >> absolutely. we had a severe drought in texas, in the southwest last year. if you start to see this again and again, it's really going to impact what we can grow, and that's going to be concerning not just to the economy, but the world as a whole. >> are we looking at this as just the beginning of water scarcity, which will be a problem that plagues the world? >> i think absolutely. i mean, the u.s. west is already in the issue of having water scarcity. you have growing populations in that part of the world, you have bigger issues in terms of agriculture. so really, you know, if we don't figure out a way to use our water more efficiently, to be less -- you know, to essentially stop wasting as much as we do now, this is going to be a problem that's only going to

recur in the future. >> bryan walsh, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. both sides in the race for the white house are putting a new twist on their messages, which they're taking to the swing states. >> president obama was in ohio monday, mitt romney is in pennsylvania today, and bill plante is at the white house. bill, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, nora. well, the problem is trying to put the brakes on the obama campaign's so far successful effort to keep the focus on romney's wealth rather than on the nation's economy, but the white house is not easing up and is even trying out a new line of attack. campaigning in cincinnati monday, the president stopped for a local speciality, a chili dog. >> you know, i'm going to take the mustard, but not the onions. >> no onions? >> just because i've got to meet people. >> reporter: and he put a new spin on an old argument, that romney sends jobs overseas. he's been accusing his opponent of being responsibility for bain capital's deals in which workers were fired and jobs outsourced, even though much of that happened after romney had left to lead the 2002 winter

olympics. monday, the president pushed the attack forward, warning that romney would do the same in the oval office. >> governor romney's economic plan would, in fact, create 800,000 jobs. there's only one problem, the jobs wouldn't be in america. they would not be in america. >> reporter: a romney spokesperson countered, saying that romney's plan would lower corporate tax rates and actually remove incentives for companies to shift jobs overseas. on the defensive for a second week, romney himself is trying to change the subject. he's accusing the obama administration of cronyism, specifically of investing stimulus money into ventures of the president's biggest donors, some of whom also sent work overseas. >> i think it's wrong, i think it stinks to high heaven, and i think the administration has to explain how it is they would consider giving money to campaign contributors' businesses. >> reporter: romney has campaigned less than the president in the last two weeks, spending much of his time at his

new hampshire lake house. this has led to increasing speculation that romney is narrowing down his vice presidential choices. the guessing game continued monday when romney met with louisiana governor bobby jindal, who is said to be on romney's short list. romney's new attack brought an immediate response from the obama campaign. they charge that he's trying to avoid his own record of outsourcing, and they claim that the program romney is attacking has supported almost 250,000 jobs in the clean energy sector. charlie, nora. >> bill, thank you very much. press secretary for george w. bush, good to have him. >> thank you. >> how do you measure, if any, the defining of mitt romney during this period by these attacks? >> well, there's an easy way to measure, and that's polling. and what we know is since mitt romney won the nomination, despite almost $100 million of ads thrown at him by the obama campaign, he's cut the gap in

half. he's down about two points in the polls, which really means the race is neck and neck. >> and does the candidate, the soon-to-be candidate after the nominating conventions, plan to at some point begin to do something different than what he's doing now? >> well, doing something different? i think if you look, again, at the polls, charlie, that's of registered voters. when you go to the more likely voters, the ones more intense about the race, he's winning. so, i think mitt romney is actually getting no credit for running what's been a really smart, sensible campaign, trying to keep the focus on the economy, when you have an incumbent who's going to do everything he cannot to talk about his failed record on jobs and debt. >> let me ask you about something. charlie cook who we all respect, atches these electi closely, had a column out last night that said "the attacks on bain outsourcing and his investments are sticking to romney like velcro and it's hard to see how that will change until he picks his running mate." there is some polling evidence that the bain attacks are working, and you see panic within the republican party. you've got to acknowledge that.

>> well, there have been a couple people who have spoken out about it, but nora, this strikes me as one of those velcro issues where everybody has a different opinion about it. if you go into a poll and say this makes me more likely or less likely, people will say less likely, but it doesn't drive voter behavior, especially in 2012 when the economy is such an overarching, overriding issue. reminds me a lot of 1992. i worked for george bush's father's campaign then. we did everything we could to make an ethical case against governor bill clinton of arkansas. no one really cared it was all about the economy it was all about jobs. same type of cycle this year. i just don't see it sticking. >> but the president argued this is exactly about the economy, that mitt romney's case is that he is mr. fix-it, that he's the guy to fix the economy, but his record shows, you know, as their tag line in their ad says, that he's not the solution, he's the problem. look at how he's run his business in the past. >> well, and that's a fair comparison that was taken on there, and as governor of massachusetts, he came in and had a state with a deficit, turned it around and left with a surplus and rainy day fund. he created jobs in massachusetts as well, a net plus in jobs,

none of which president obama can claim as the man who presided over this country's economy for four years, nearly four years. so that's a fight over the economy that mitt romney wins, and the president doesn't want to engage in a fight over the state of the united states economy today. >> you've been in politics long enough to know they would not be doing this if they did not have internal polling telling them it was working. >> charlie, i don't think they have any other card to play. they wouldn't do this if they had success to run on or issues. osama bin laden's death to their credit is their biggest success, and i praise them for it, but that's it. >> the tag line is general motors is alive and osama bin laden is dead. >> and chrysler's been out-sourced to fiat. >> outsourcing as an issue, the president has been on the campaign talking about that. does that connection to bain, notwithstanding the fact that he was in the olympics, do damage, as they define him as someone,

and try to define him as someone who's out of touch? >> the whole thing about outsourcing, i get the politics of it, and both president obama and mitt romney can fairly be accused of doing their share of outsourcing. as i've just indicated, president obama sold chrysler on pennies to the dollar to an italian company. they're no longer an american company -- >> wait, why do you think he sold it to an italian company? why was chrysler -- >> but here's the point i'm about to make. when you look at it from an economic point of view in terms of what's best for the american people, americans are going to create jobs in other countries, other countries are going to create jobs in america. >> so outsourcing you think is okay in terms of the governor -- >> well, the economy flows in both directions, and that's why i think both candidates are cheapening the economic argument here by trying to score political points. i have a brother-in-law who works for honda in indiana. he's an assembly line worker there. that's an american job created by a foreign company that outsourced. >> let me ask you this, this is simple. do you think it was a good idea for fiat to buy chrysler, and perhaps save some jobs when they

couldn't find any other person or any other company to buy at the time? >> no, but if my attack on fiat and chrysler isn't valid, then all of president obama's attacks on mitt romney are invalid as well. that's the point i'm making. it goes both directions, but when you have this president obama who ran, saying we don't want to build an economy on the stand, he cited scripture, on a solid. he's doing everything on the sand now so he can cling to his job. >> ari, thank you so much. rebel fighters in syria say government troops are attacking them with helicopter gunships in the syrian capital. we've got some amateur video. it's said to show the fighting in and around damascus, which is spreading and becoming more intense. well, yesterday in israel, state department correspondent margaret brennan asked secretary of state hillary clinton if she is willing to meet with syrian president bashar al assad. >> well, certainly, we are prepared to do anything to assist the transition, but we're strongly supporting kofi annan,

who as you know, is the joint envoy of both the u.n. and the arab league. he's in moscow today. so, we're giving him our full support. >> now, clinton says the united states continues to supply the syrian opposition with nonlethal assistance. now to a mystery in the sky. this morning the fbi is trying to figure out how sewing needles made their way into sandwiches served on at least four different delta air lines flights. all the flights were headed to the united states and originated in amsterdam on sunday. senior correspondent john miller tells us what he has learned. good morning. >> well, this is going to be one of those cases where the fbi is going to have to work with foreign authorities. association the case has been assigned to the fbi office in atlanta. agents there are working with the fbi's legal cache in amsterdam to work with dutch authorities, but it's not the anthrax case. it boils down to the means, motive and opportunity. anybody would have the means to do something like this, so what's the motive? looking at disgruntled employees

in the supply chain, either at the caterer or at one of the caterer's suppliers who had access to the sandwich, going back through threats to the airlines, to the caterers and so on. so, that's a normal process. you know, on the csi end, you know, the fbi lab can look at a needle and send it to the tool, mark and dye section and say who made this needle, how many of them were manufactured, where'd this come from? but on the higher end, there's things called skin cell dna, where if somebody touched one with sweaty hands, they might have even left something that could identify somebody. but in the end, it's, again, it's not the anthrax case. >> so, what should we worry about? >> i don't think we should worry about much. i mean, this is one of those predictable is preventible situations. if you're on an airline and you have a question about your sandwich, take the top off, go through it pretty quickly, and if there's a needle there -- i hate to say we're looking for a needle in a haystack, but -- >> we're looking for a needle in

a sandwich. >> looking for a needle in some lettuce and swiss cheese. >> it's a serious issue, though, if you're looking for a needle. >> and there was somebody injured here. and frankly, the other danger is -- and this is a double-edged sword for us -- we want to tell people about it because they need to be aware, but that spawns the copycat fear. >> thanks, john, appreciate it. >> appreciate it. time for this morning's headlines from around the globe. "the globe" and "mail" reports two people were killed when gunfire erupted at a toronto block party. about 200 people were in the crowd last night. 19 others were injured. police say there was some sort of dispute and at least two people opened fire. a person of interest is in custody. the chicago police department could send almost $14 million in overtime this summer. reports from "the chicago tribune" says it's part of a plan to curb a 38% increase in murders. the overtime will pay for just over 200 extra officers. the san francisco "chronicle" reports that

billionaire zuckerberg got a great rate on his mortgage, buying his home in california for about $6 million. rates are already at record lows, but his is super low. it's a 30-year adjustable rate starting at just over 1%. financial experts say the super-rich qualify for these types of loans if they're willing to risk monthly rate adjustments. and more buzz on the next iphone. the "wall street journal" reports that its screen will be thinner with much sharper images. it will also be slimmer with extra room for things like batteries, but don't hold your breath. the new version isn't expected until, wait for

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♪ you have got to watch this dramatic catch caught on a cell phone camera and seen here on wcbs in new york city. that is a girl tumbling three stories out of a window. the building in brooklyn on monday. thankfully, a bus driver was walking home, happened to be under the girl and was able to safely catch her. the 7-year-old had been standing on an air conditioning unit when she fell. thank goodness she only has minor injuries. he's been called a hero. welcome back to "cbs this morning." >> and he is a hero. >> right. >> when you think about what it means to those parents. the 2012 summer olympics get under way next week, which means athletes have been pouring in to london. >> heathrow airport had its busiest ever day, but when its

visitors hit the streets of london, that's when the trouble really began, and elizabeth palmer is in london. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. well, as you probably know, the british love to anticipate disaster, and the media here has been having a field day speculating about everything that could go wrong. but with ten days to go to the opening ceremonies, we're really on the cusp, so we don't know yet. a record-breaking 237,000 passengers, many of them olympic athletes, streamed through heathrow airport yesterday with barely a hitch. outside on the main road, though, there were some hiccups. american hurdler karen clemens was stuck on one of three buses that got lost for four hours. athletes are sleepy, hungry and need to pee, he tweeted. "can we get to the olympic village, please?" for their parts, london locals were figuring out how to use or not to use the expressway

reserved for olympic vehicles. >> in the best of times, it's only got three lanes in each direction and one of them was taken out yesterday. and of course, if you take one-third of the road capacity out, that is going to cause an awful lot of traffic holdup. >> reporter: travel writer simon calder says london's noble pass is actually a drawback in the olympics' presence. >> the highway system is, frankly, a disaster. it was based on a plan originally put in place by the romans 2,000 years ago, and much of it hasn't improved very much since then. >> reporter: so, disruption is inevitable, especially with more than 16,000 uk troops deployed for security as well as hundreds of extra police. commuters have been warned to expect delays, or better yet, avoid them by staying home, advice that has infuriated some london cab drivers. >> they're going to gridlock the streets and not let us get around, and then they've got the

affront of an absolute bear fight to say the olympics are good for me and for london. well, they're not. >> reporter: but the run-up to these games has already added festive touches and brightened the mood in a city that has needed a lift in this radius of rainy summers. now, i'm standing in a rare dry patch this morning, but literally, the rain has practically not stopped. people are so fed up. however, a bit of good news from the meteorological people today. they say that the sun may actually begin to shine for the beginning of the games. >> liz, does this have any impact on tourism? >> reporter: well, research shows that there are fewer tourists, ordinary tourists, to an olympic city when the games are on, so maybe the great weight of these games will be alleviated by the fact that the crowds that are normally here in the summer will be smaller. add to that a pretty good public transport system, good buses, good subway, very good trains.

everybody's got their fingers crossed. we're hoping for the best. >> all right, elizabeth palmer, good to see you. thanks. turning now to shopping online. it's quick, convenient and cheaper, since it's usually tax-free, but congress is now considering a new bill that could change all of that. >> the bill would place a sales tax of anywhere from 5% to 10% on internet purchases, bringing prices in line with brick-and-mortar stores. chip reid is in washington with the story. good morning, chip. >> reporter: good morning, charlie and nora. you know, this battle has been going on for years with brick-and-mortar stores trying to get their online competitors to charge sales tax. well, now the momentum appears to be changing, and online shopping could soon become more expensive. u.s. consumers spent more than $200 billion shopping online last year. 53% of americans let their fingers do the shopping, averaging about $1,200. by 2016, 58% are expected to take the plunge, spending more

than $1,700 apiece. one big advantage for online companies is that sales on the internet are, for the most part, tax-free. for years, store-based retailers have tried to change the law to require their online competitors to charge sales tax. so far, online companies have blocked those efforts, but it's possible their luck is about to change. a bipartisan bill in congress would allow states to decide whether to tax online sales. supporters like republican senator lamar alexander insist it's less about raising taxes than it is about states' rights. >> let's get out of the way, let states make their own decisions and then states can decide from whom they want to collect their sales taxes. >> reporter: and he's getting help from some unlikely sources. at least a dozen conservative republican governors who are usually fervently antitax now support giving states the power to tax online sales. why? well, it's partly states'

rights, but it's also because their budgets are so squeezed, they need the money. if the bill becomes law, an estimated $23 billion is expected to flow into state coffers. steve del bianco is with net choice, which represents internet companies. he says the bill would mire thousands of small, online businesses in a nightmarish web of new taxes. >> the big loser are small businesses, the same small businesses we're counting on to create the jobs to pull us out of this recession. >> reporter: senator alexander says the change in momentum on this issue is so profound that he's now confident this bill will become law by next year at the latest. and if he's right, online shoppers will soon have a little less money to burn. charlie and nora? >> chip reid, thank you so much. what's interesting about this is that more and more people i know are shopping online, and therefore, this is a bit -- >> i have to. i buy diapers, food, clothing -- >> everything. >> all of it, yeah. turning to a sports story, some says it's insanity to pay

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bacon and pancakes for $4.gs,ity umm. in my day, you get eggs, bacon and pancakes, and it only cost you $4. the $4 everyday value slam. one of 4 tasty choices for $4 off the 2-4-6-8 value menu. only at denny's. how do you think women are doing in silicon valley? >> overall, i mean, i think silicon valley is a great place for women, but that said, i tend to think of my experience there, especially at google, not as one of a woman but as a geek. >> yes. >> and like if you're a geek, silicon valley and google are great places to be. >> marissa mayer in may back on this program when she was an executive with google. yesterday she was hired to be yahoo's next ceo. welcome back to "cbs this morning." >> from google geek to yahoo's ceo, and she announced to twitter last night, she's also going to be a first-time mommy.

pretty impressive. >> and she got married i think 18 months or two years ago. she said to me in 2009 in an interview that i did with her, i said to her, what's wrong with google -- with yahoo? and she said talent. and that's true about silicon valley. and if she can bring talent, then she'll make yahoo a different place. >> certainly a big hire for them, all right. and also, it looks like the era of linsanity is going to end here in new york. last season, harvard grad jeremy lin took the knicks and the entire sports world by storm. now he may be headed to houston, but there's still a faint, faint glimmer of hope that he could stay with the knicks, and jeff glor is here. good morning. >> moving all over the place these days, nora. the deadline is 11:59 tonight. new york can match a very lucrative offer, but the knicks, it would seem, have telegraphed their intention. >> lin puts it up, bam! jeremy lin goes downtown and the knicks take the lead! >> reporter: it is hard to believe this was only five months ago. >> jeremy lin does it again!

>> reporter: it is hard to believe an athlete that came on so quickly -- >> jeremy lin is for real. >> reporter: -- that energized the sports world so completely -- >> some people even say lin is saving the nba season. >> reporter: -- and helped change the basketball conversation away from an extended lockout, could be gone from a team so suddenly. >> did you see this coming? >> no, i don't think anybody really saw it coming. >> reporter: joe favorito is a sports marketing professor and former head of pr at the new york knicks. >> he became a product of everything that you could take advantage of today. there was social media, television, blogs. everybody kind of caught on to it because he was an every man. >> reporter: jeremy lin's meadoric rise sold the third most jerseys last year. >> we've collected for you the worst possible jeremy lin puns. you understand what i'm saying? >> i see, yes. >> reporter: made "letterman's" top ten list. >> number four, does this look linfected to you? >> reporter: settled a cable tv dispute and turned around a season for a long-suffering team, just to name a few.

>> you've got to be livid to live it. there you go. >> reporter: for all that, he will likely an allowed to walk. why? money. the three-year deal dangled by the houston rockets includes a balloon payment year that would cost the knicks not just a $15 million salary in 2014, but potentially $35 million more in luxury tax payments under the nba's strict, new system. $50 million on one player in one year. >> if the knicks had their preference, they would keep jeremy lin. there's no question they love who he is as a player, as a person, as a talent. i think they believe in him, and i think that at the right price, they would keep him. for them, this is just becoming a hard business decision and not so much a basketball decision. >> reporter: there is an online petition to keep lin in new york, but his merchandise has already been removed from the team's website, and new york has already acquired three other point guards this offseason, which means with his hand nearly

over, houston holds all the right cards. >> it will be interesting to see how well that could play out in houston versus playing out in new york where the lights are always brighter. >> reporter: does he have the same marketing potential in houston? >> i think so. houston is one of the largest asian american communities in north america, and yao ming proved you don't have to be a global brand, especially to market to asia. >> reporter: jeremy lin obviously has a lot of people in his ears right now. if you had a piece of advice for him as he likely leaves, what is it? >> keep your feet on the ground and just keep doing what you're doing. >> so, what are the knicks going to do? >> the knicks are going to move forward, likely, with this new roster they have. they already have carmelo anthony, they have amar'e stoudemire. they're an older team with kurt thomas, marcus camby coming in, jason kidd, so it is an older team, but it's an experienced team. the rockets, meanwhile, are young and looking for a superstar. >> and he could be that for them, they believe? >> yeah. well, listen, if he becomes a superstar, i think everybody will look back in hindsight and

say why did they let him go? but he only played 26 games. we don't know right now. >> so, he may have an injury issue, or? >> jeremy, he was out a good part of last year, at the end of last year with a knee. he says he's fully healthy now. >> thank you so much. great to see you here. >> good to it is a skill that some say can come in handy in everyday life. how to know when someone is lying to you. an ex-cia officer shares his

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remember a guy named anthony weiner, congressman? >> yeah, yeah. >> he had one of those picture-taking cell phones, and he would -- [ laughter ] you talk about your junk mail, ladies and gentlemen. i'll tell you. he wants to run for mayor again in 2013, and he's got a new slogan, and it's "wiener's got a fire in his belly and a bulge in his pants," and he's ready to go. >> saying leave me alone. leave me alone. not so fast. it's 8:00. welcome back to "cbs this morning." i'm gayle king. erica hill is off today. >> and i'm charlie rose. you might assume that a lie detector test is the best way to get to the truth, but a former cia officer conducted thousands

of interrogations and created new techniques along the way for recognizing deceptive answers. >> his name is philip houston, and he's one of three former officers who have written this book. it's called "spy the lie." i like the title, mr. houston. he joins us with senior correspondent john miller, a former fbi official. hello, hello and welcome. >> thanks for having me. >> i now look at life totally differently, i have to say, after reading your book, including how i behave and what i see in others, but you say that everybody lies, everybody. >> yes. in fact, the research shows that the average person lies at least ten times a day, which of course includes some of the serious lies, but also the social lies. >> is there a difference between lies men and women tell? >> yes. men tend to -- and this is a generalization, but men tend to tell lies often that make themselves look a little bit better, whereas women, you know, often tell lies or the social lies to spare people's feelings. feelings. >> who tells more lies, men or

women? >> there's a raging debate about that, but i think there's a lot of folks that believe that men might slightly have the edge. >> men have the edge, charlie. >> let me talk about -- thank you. let me talk about the process, too. i mean, you administered polygraphs when you in the cia, correct? >> yes. >> and coming out of that, you were asked to do what? >> i was approached at one point to help develop a training program to train officers to do a better job of collecting information when they're in that mode of being face to face with the target that they're focused on. >> so, if you're talking to someone and you want to know whether they are lying to you, what do you look for and why are you sure about your own perceptions? >> well, one of the things that we know, charlie, is first is to understand what we shouldn't look for. in the past, there's been a lot of focus on things called global behaviors. so, for example, i might in the past focus, say, well, gee, john

is not sitting in a way in which he looks truthful. he may have closed posture -- >> no, no, not my guy. >> i swear i'm telling the truth. >> but the problem with that, the problem with that is i'm only guessing why he's sitting that way. he may be cold, he may be comfortable. that may be how he always sits. >> right, right. >> but what we've done is we have identified what are the most reliable deceptive indicators, and we help people understand how to connect those indicators to the question that they're asking or the topic that they're interested in. >> what are those indicators? >> yeah, such as? >> they're both deceptive verbal and nonverbal indicators. so for example, verbally, when you ask someone a question and all of a sudden, they repeat your question, that might be an indication that they need to buy a little bit of time to create or come up with a more acceptable answer. >> we see that every day at this table. i mean, you see people that are, especially in fact, people -- it's political season and you can see them thinki ining or

repeating the question. i mean, that's obvious. >> yes, exactly. you also see people go into what we call the convince mode. so, if you ask me the question in which the facts are not my ally, then immediately, i have to figure out, if i can't talk about the facts, what can i talk about? and so, what i'll often do is go into the convince mode. >> which means what? >> i might do something such as, say, if you're an investigator and saying, so, did you take this missing money? i would never do that. i'm an honest person. ask anyone. my goodness, i wouldn't jeopardize my job by doing something like that. and it sounds good to the untrained ears, but to someone who's skilled in detecting deception, there are immediate red flags when you see someone do that. >> john, what do you think of all this. >> well, when i was with the los angeles police department, i brought phil and his team in to train detectives. we did the antiterrorist division and the robbery-homicide division, and these are some very jaded people. they've seen it all.

and they've questioned all the suspects and they've caught all the lies. so a lot of them walked into the room, especially the people who have been doing it 25, 30 years, saying you know, what's some cia guy who questions spies going to tell me about, you know, how to break a murder suspect? i have to say, after the three-day course, i had veteran detectives coming up to me, hitting their heads saying i need to requestion every suspect i've interviewed in last two years. and it's very dramatic, and it's simple. >> i get that, too. when i was reading the book, john, i understand why veteran people are saying that, because we would have places where people say, "swear to god i never did that, and you said that's also an indicator, when someone brings out the lord. >> sure. >> somebody goes on attack mode -- what are you saying about me, john miller? why would you suggest that? do you know what your job is? i started looking at everything very differently, so i understand why veterans would do that. when we led to you, david letterman did the clip about anthony weiner, you include anthony weiner in your book. >> yes. >> which i guess you could say

is a classic case. can we show a clip -- >> sure. >> and then if you could weigh in on the other side about what you thought when you saw those events. >> congressman, i think the main question that everyone has is, was that a picture of you? >> well, the main question that a lot of people are asking is did i take the photograph? i did not. this was a prank, a hoax. >> what about that said to you he's not telling the truth? >> the first indicator, the immediate indicator, he doesn't answer the question. the simple question is a yes or no question, is that picture you? and obviously, he doesn't want to share the fact that it is me, because that fact is not his ally, so he immediately goes into the convince mode. and as you said a minute ago, sometimes they even try to attack a little bit, by saying, well, this is a prank or it's a hoax, someone has done something to me, to try to maybe get you even to back off a little bit in your questioning, not pursue it. >> what is it like for the children that grow up around you? i'm thinking, what kind of

dad -- what is it like to have a dad that can spot a lie? do you use this at home? >> well, i tend to be selective. i'm very fortunate i have great kids. they're all grown now, but they presented challenges at times, and this certainly helped along the way. >> i think of the homework example. >> yeah. >> where even as a parent, you're like, did i phrase that question the right way? you asked your son about homework once. >> yes, exactly. my son had a little bit of a problem at one point doing his homework. so, he came home one day and i happened to have the day off. and he walked in, and i just simply said, without thinking of it, i asked the wrong question. i said do you have any homework today? and chris looked at me and he said immediately, without batting an eye, he said, dad, we had a substitute today. and i thought, that makes sense, and it wasn't, you know, until a few minutes later, i realized that my son had just shuckered me. so, i had to ask a better question, so i asked him how much do you have? and he had a ton.

>> asking the better question. >> yes. >> so, you don't say did you steal the money, you just say what did you do with the money that you took? >> yes. >> presumptive question. i learned a lot. thank you, john miller. thank you very much. thank you, john miller. thank you, philip houston. the name of the book is called "spy the lie." it's on sale now. but first, let if you're chilling out indoors today, you can thank willis carrier. you may not know his name, but i'll bet you know his invention. it's called air conditioning. thank you, jesus.

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♪ hot town, summer in the city, back of my neck getting dirt and gritty ♪ as much of the country swelters under the summer heat, a useful invention made its debut today. >> i know. there was a live shot, 80 degrees already in new york on the upper west side. yikes! 110 years ago, the first air conditioner blasted into action. terrell brown looks back at this very important milestone. good morning to you, terrell. >> hey, gayle, good morning to you. you know, if you've ever just taken a walk outside and actually looked at the air conditioning unit that's out there, that thing can look like a clunker. take a look, though, at what we found underneath an old printing press in brooklyn, new york.

>> in this building, this is the start of a revolution. >> reporter: 110 years ago today, the five-story brick building in brooklyn, new york, became the world's first air-conditioned building. >> this is the first time the blueprint which down here is dated july 17th, 1902, has been back to the original site where they were doing the printing. >> reporter: historian eric schultz says engineer willis carrier struck upon the idea of an air cooling system to improve production at an onsite paper publishing company. >> the paper was curling at the edges, wasn't going to the feeder properly. sometimes they had to shut down the machines for a couple days. >> reporter: the brooklyn building sat above a natural spring and carrier's system of blowing air over the cold water piped into the basement of the printing press became a basic building block of the modern air conditioner. 20 years later, and for $100,000, carrier brought his weather maker to the movies. >> in 1925 in new york city, modern air conditioning is

launched in the theater on broadway, and it's a sensation. >> reporter: from there, it was off to the races. >> here's a new idea in luxury, the new 1955 rambler offers complete year-round air conditioning. >> reporter: from skyscrapers in manhattan to four-family homes in suburbs like levittown, long island, a whole new world of cool opened up. >> it's just flush inside and doesn't interfere with the drapes. >> beginning in 1950, you start to see the spread of residential air conditioning in the suburbs. >> reporter: in 1955, 1 in every 22 american homes had air conditioning. by 1960, that number had jumped to 1 in 5. >> 1970, the federal census, "the new york times" calls it the air condition census, because you can really see the movement of population in the united states. >> reporter: the national academy of engineering named air conditioning among the top ten inventions of the 20th century. but what happens when we can't keep our cool? this june, record-breaking temperatures contributed to the

hottest 12-month period our nation has experienced since 1895. and with well over 100 million air-conditioned households tapping into the grid in the u.s. alone, experts warn that our addiction to cool and the short-term comfort it provides may not always be sustainable, as we saw in 2003, when the entire northeast went dark. >> people who considered it a luxury now consider it a necessity. >> reporter: perhaps it's just another excuse to try to stay cool the old-fashioned way. >> cannonball! >> nothing like a good, old-fashioned cannonball to stay cool in this heat. you know, the thing i think about is when you look around in the studio, could you imagine working in here without air conditioning? >> no. >> i mean, i would be a big puddle of makeup sitting in this chair. [ laughter ] >> that's a nice picture. >> yeah. >> no, listen, mine broke the other day, and you call to get it fixed. apparently, the arraf conditioner repair guy is doing

a great business because the lady sort of laughed on the phone and just said wait in line. >> one of the interesting things that historian said is just the point that you make there. you know, if you're in the office and e-mail or the internet goes down, you can usually stay. let the ac go down and people start clearing out of the office. it's a matter of necessity for productivity and comfort. >> it is one of those things like the car that changed a whole century. >> right, and for that very reason. >> deserves to be there among the top ten inventionles century? >> i believe so. the new york stock exchange the first building air-conditioned just for the comfort of its workers, yes. >> we are grateful to mr. carrier. thank you, terrell. if you're a little closer to retirement, we can tell you five things that you really need to know. you are watching "cbs this morning." your local news is coming up next. i'll have the $4 everyday value slam with... bacon.

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♪ welcome back to "cbs this morning." from where to live to how to spend your money, there is a lot to know about being retired. >> executive editor ken budd of the magazine of "aarp" tells us the top five things everyone needs to know. welcome. >> good to be here. thanks for having me. >> so, this is what you're telling us is what we need to know about being retired. >> exactly, right. >> so, what do we need to know about being retired? >> well, the first thing, financial, obviously. we tell people to cut your savings -- excuse me, spend less, save more, diversify your investments. and most financial advisers will tell you to follow the 4% rule early on. don't spend more than 4% of your savings and first-year retirement.

those are the main things you want to follow and there are online calculators that are like t. rowe price, vanguard, that can help you crunch the numbers. >> the thing about retirement, i can't imagine being retired. we're different ages here. >> right. >> yet there are some people who actually look forward to it. >> exactly. and that's number two on our list are people who want to keep working and keep finding a career. this is a great time to start your own business, because you've got a lifetime of connections, you've got a lifetime of experience. so, we find people doing everything from high-tech consulting businesses to home fix-it businesses, and you're going to deal with the things like licensing and credentialing, but there's big payoffs. one survey said that 96% of people 65 and over were happy about the decision to work independently. >> what does retirement age mean? what is it? so i know exactly what we're talking about. when is it? >> i think the whole notion of retirement age has completely changed. >> 85. >> i like that, charlie. i like 85. >> well, we always think 65, but people are working longer because they want to, and some cases out of necessity. >> and longevity, the fact that

we live longer these days. >> right. >> but i'm thinking if you decide to retire, it surprises me you're saying start a new business. i'm thinking if i want to retire, i don't want to do anything else. i want to chill. >> that's the great thing about retirement. some people want to chill and some don't want to chill at all. that's the beauty of it. >> i like that you used the word chill. we also need to stay mentally sharp. how? >> you want to keep learning, and that means building new brain cells. you can't do what you're used to doing. if you do crosswords, do sudoku. brush your teeth with the other hand. try new situations. >> brush your teeth with the odd hand. >> you want to trick your brain, force it to do different things. >> isn't that in terms of exercising the mind? we're learning more and more about preventing alzheimer's and all of the other preventible disease. it's about staying very active. >> exactly, and it's also about exercising physically. you can lower your dementia risk 30% to 40% if you have a high activity level versus low activity. >> it's also important to lead a

fulfilling lifestyle, you say. and you can do that by? >> well, you know, i find that people -- >> brushing my teeth with my other hand. i'm actually going to try that tomorrow. >> i'm going to take up golf. >> yeah, or golf, that's right. >> i find people are happy in retirement, people who say i'm busier now than i was when i was working. so, it's people who, you know, you've always wanted to play the piano, learn a language. we talked to one guy who broke it up in two. he said the first year, i'm going to do whatever i want whenever i want. so he drank coffee, read books, took long walks. then after ithat, he wanted to become a chaplain, so he studied and did that. if you have a plan and do what you want to do and remember boredom is your enemy. >> you know people who are technically retired from their job and moved on to second careers? how many people are working after 65? >> the numbers are growing and baby boomers are leading the

entrepreneurship. forget mark zuckerberg, it's the people in the older group who are doing this. >> community is important in terms of not being alone, having people you can share experience with? >> exactly, and that goes for a small core group area and also where you live, and that was one of our five as well, the great places to live. we do an annual list of the top places to live. this year we focus on places you can live for $100 a day. our top picks were pittsburgh, omaha, san antonio, gainesville, florida, and grand junction, colorado. and what they all have in common, low cost of living, high quality of life, culture, recreation. pittsburgh has a world-class symphony and espn's top-rated baseball park. so, you can find those five and five more on aarp.org. >> anything on the west coast in the top ten? i'm surprised there was nothing in the top ten in your file. >> see, you got me from the other side. i need to be brushing my teeth, but -- >> for some people, they say go west, young man, go west. california is considered nirvana for a lot of people. >> and today it's urbanism. a lot of people want to be in

the city, especially after their children are grown. they say i want to go back to the city. that's where the xirmt is, that's where cultural opportunity is. is that a part of the phenomenon? >> exactly. we're finding people want to be able to walk to restaurants, walk to the museum, to sporting events. i think they're looking for that lively atmosphere that you find in a city. >> all right. thank you, ken budd. they are a trio of top-notch beauties, you could say, and they are all here, all three of them this morning. you should see the green room and all the people that are making trips to the green room this morning to say hi to beverly, kim and carol. they're going to tell us what it's like to be a supermodel back in the day. beverly johnson, carol alt and kim alexis joi

i love these shoes, as long as i don't have to walk. they'll just have to carry me anywhere. okay, i'm ready to move. you do live in a bubble where everyone tells you how beautiful you are all the time, and they run and get you coffee or

whatever you want. i was the first african-american to grace the cover of "vogue" in august 1974. wow, that's a long time. >> wow, but that was big. that clip from a new hbo documentary. it's called "about face." it's supermodels then and now. it's a look at the lives and the careers of some of the best-known women to ever walk a runway, and we're lucky because we've got three of them here live and in color this morning. hello, beverly johnson. >> hello! >> carol alt. >> good morning. >> and kim alexis. >> hello. >> welcome, girls, welcome. i love there's a part in the documentary where i think it's paulina who said what 15-year-old girl doesn't want to be told she's beautiful? so, when did each of you know that when you walked in a room, men and women started to say, wow? there was a point where you have to go, yeah, i am, i'm beautiful. when was that, beverly? >> i think that when i saw the first issue of "glamour" magazine, i did a ten-page spread. because really, i didn't know what the big deal was. >> you didn't? >> no, i didn't. so, when i saw the pictures, i

was like, yes, yeah, i do look kind of good! so, i think it was when the first issue of "glamour" magazine came out. >> and you, carol? >> i think for me it was very different. i think every girl has a different relationship to this business, and for me, i never felt like i was beautiful or gorgeous. for me, it was -- >> carol, carol, you have to stop. i always hate it when i see gorgeous women like you go, you know, i never felt beautiful, i never thought -- >> no, gayle, i see the cracks. i see the cracks. i wake up in the morning and i go, oh, my hair, i'm having a bad hair day. we're lucky we get hair and makeup and what not. >> yeah. >> and i'm lucky because i found a way that really works for me. >> got it. >> so i feel really blessed in that way. but in reality, it's like, the hair was like this, the lighting was like that, and i do believe what paulina said when she said, you know, i look back at those photos and i could have been naked all the time if i had that great body! and yes, i think in retrospect, i look back and i go, they were great pictures, they're a part of history. >> i saw some covers that were

really stunning. for you, kim, when did you know? >> i am not -- you know, you look back and people would say things and you didn't believe them. >> yeah. >> even when i started in the business, people would say you're beautiful. and because i come from a swimming background, i didn't grow up having that as my value system. my value system was good grades, my value system was my inner self, being a good girl for my parents and having fast times in swimming. so, i never really thought so much about the outside. i always had wet hair and didn't read the fashion magazines. so, it took me a long time to realize. >> but there's also a time, too, guys, when they say as beautiful as you are, there is always someone trying to pick you apart. >> yes. >> to your point, carol. who did your eyebrows, you're too overweight when you might have been a size 4 or a size 2. >> yes. >> so that can also be debilitating, too. >> i was just going to say, kim and i actually got off on the wrong foot when i met her because i was overweight according to standards. i was about 5'8", 150 pounds and maybe a size 12. i ultimately ended up on the

cover of "sports illustrated" getting back to probably a size 2. but at the point that i met kim, i was in this argument with john kassa blancas from elite and he said, speak to kim alexis. she'll tell you all about having a problem losing weight. so i said very naively, kim said you have a problem losing weight, too -- >> and i said, you tell john! because i was a swimmer. so when i was discovered, i was true muscle. >> and i was a lacrosse player. >> in the documentary, guys were saying what we consider today sexual harassment, back then we thought of as a compliment. is that true? >> yes, that's very true. i can remember i did a test job. they send you on testing to do a job. this photographer's taking my picture and is coming closer and closer and before i knew it, he was kissing me. i was just terrified. i ran all the way to the agency. i'll never forget. i ran 59th street, ran up the stairs and i said, this photographer's taking my picture, he kept getting closer, then he started kissing me! she said, is he doing that

again? then i knew i had to take care of myself. >> and you were worrying about hurting feelings, weren't you? >> yes. >> no, i wasn't, i was -- >> i was! >> i was getting out of there. >> you were worried about hurting people's feelings? >> i was so naive when i first started, i thought i can't say anything. and you have to learn to put some healthy boundaries around you, like you know, now i feel really ugly because nobody ever tried any of that on me! >> you were dressed in army fatigues. >> but you know, it comes with the confidence of getting older. there's a word called aging, when you can sort of speak up and find your own voice. >> yes. >> as we sit here today, jerry hall said in her southern accent about aging, kim? >> we all don't want to get old and get sick and get diseased. >> we know that's going to happen. >> that aging is not a good thing. and i actually look at aging and think it's something to be celebrated. so, as you sit here today and you've grown up all being very attracti attractive, is aging something you worry about, think about? >> i think about it and i just try to age gracefully. i try to be the best i can every single day. i do and eat what works for me.

i work out and stay fit with a trainer, and you know, i also have a good marriage, so i feel good about myself and i feel that i'm a great mother, and those things are important. the inner things are important. you work on the outer stuff, if you can, but it's the inner stuff that's very important. >> well, and the alternative is that you're dead. but so, you know, i think that, you know, it's part of life and it's -- you know, the great thing is that everybody has to do it. but nobody's -- [ everyone talking at once ] >> but when you grew up looking this good, guys, there is such a thing about do i always have to look good? is it something you worry about now as you're older? >> i think women always worry about that because they're compared to other women, and i wrote my book specifically about that, about how to age gracefully, to be healthy, because i think for women as we age, health is a big issue. hormone balancing. we were just talking about that in the green room, hormone balancing -- >> don't be looking at me! >> and being thin enough and looking good. and you can't always do all of

that by plastic surgery. really, a lot of that has to do with diet. >> well, and i really feel that because we're models, i think that the spotlight is even more so on us. >> it is. >> and people get disappointed if they look at you and they're like, oh, i saw her and she wasn't looking so good. >> right. >> women in general are judged, we're judged more harsh. >> yeah. >> do you think you could be supermodels in today's world? >> there are no supermodels, i don't think, because they're not allowed to have peppers or ants in the magazines. all the actresses have them. >> you raised a good point. it used to be the models and now -- >> we want those back. we want those back. >> when you look at your life, you have to say life was pretty good. >> life is pretty good. >> to walk around and do what you do, you have to say life is pretty good. >> and for me, it's made me who i am today. >> it's made you what? >> who i am today. >> and you are? in one sentence. >> i am beverly johnson the supermodel. >> okay. fair enough. kim, carol and beverly, we thank you. the name of the documentary is called "about face."

it makes its debut on hbo on july 30th. she plays a usually nasty high school coach on "glee." jane lynch. i see you, jane lynch. but she's here this morning, no nastiness with her ever. trust us, she's as pleasant as she can be. sue sylvester is just the character, but she's here in the flesh when we come back.

and we have a little bit of a family dynamic going here. it pretty much mirrors what i grew up with, you know. my father was the task master, the disciplinarian, which is what i do. i'm the mommy -- >> like mr. punishment. >> yeah, oh, well, you know, i also reward. but sherry's responsible for the

unconditional love. >> decorative ability. >> exactly, the heart and the soul, you know, which is what my mother did, and that was her job. you know, she was there for the unconditional love, and it worked for my family, until my mom committed suicide in '81. >> i remember that. that's a classic moment from "best in show." sorry. it's not funny. with jane lynch, who has played everything from a dog-handler in the film to coach sylvester, the beloved bully on "glee." >> now the actress joins us in studio. good morning. >> good morning. >> jane lynch, it's so good to see you again. >> thank you. >> i was thinking about you and it all began with a frosted flakes commercial. >> it did. i was doon doing commercials in the late '90s and i got a callback and it said christopher guest and i said what's he doing directing commercials? so, that's how i met chris. >> so, meeting chris went to "best of show." let's go back to frosted flakes for a moment. isn't it best with raisins?

>> getting to sprinkle the sugar on top of it. >> tony the tiger. >> tony would be the commercial. >> you play comedy very well. is that what you always wanted, comedy? >> yeah! yeah, i love it. i had this thought that i should probably be a dramatic actress at one point and i kind of went down that road and i ended up playing a funny person in the drama. so i love doing it. i love trying to find what's funny about everything. >> there is humor in everything. >> there is. you can find it in everything. >> there is humor in everything. >> yes, yes. >> well, i've been a fan a long time. love you in "glee," of course -- >> thank you so much. >> which makes me laugh out loud. >> thank you. >> but now you're bringing the focus to a very important issue, which is student loan debt, which people forget, there is more student loan debt than there is credit card debt, car loan debt. >> it's insane. >> it is crippling young people, older people, too. >> i guess there are billions of dollars owed by people over 60 it follows you through life, so it's a very important decision to make as you're about to go to

college, and for parents to make. and our website launches today, called collegefinancecenter.org, and it's just a terrific resource for researching these products and coming up with the best student loan for you so you can avoid majoring in debt while you're in college. >> i was impressed you were doing it, jane, because did you have a personal issue, jane, with college debt? >> i did not. back when it was simpler, when i was in college, i went to a public university, my parents helped pay and we supplemented it with student loans and i paid it off. i deferred it a couple times, but i think by the time i was 30, and i wasn't saddled by this debt. it's completely different now. my nieces and nephews who are getting the 1-800 calls every day because they cannot pay. and the interest rates keep going up. and well, what happens with this collegefinancecenter.org is you can research all of these products and find out, you know, be really knowledgeable on how the percentages will go up or if they won't. and so, you know, it's a good place to start. >> what do you hope it will

accomplish? >> well, i hope that people will take on debt knowingly, knowing what the terms are. >> so, it's information. >> exactly, it's information. you're armed with information, then you're not blind-sided when you get out of school and you're like, oh, i owe this much now. so, you go into it with your eyes wide open. >> you're on vacation, then? >> i am. i'm in vermont. not right now. i'm here with you. >> what are you doing? >> what am i doing? a lot of nothing. >> really? >> i'm reading, having a really great time. i'm in woodstock, vermont, which is -- >> what are you reading? >> i am reading "the paleo diet" by rob wolf about cleaning up my diet and there's an interesting thing about the hunter-gatherer -- >> you don't look like you need to be on a diet. >> i've been on it for about seven months, and i feel really good. >> how is it different? >> well, no dairy, no sugar. i'm doing -- >> that's a good start. >> no sugar? >> when you eliminate that, the weight falls off and your numbers get better. >> it does. >> so, it's basically that. >> when did you start filming "glee" again? >> two weeks. in fact, the first two episodes were delivered to my home in california last night, so i

cannot wait. my niece is house-sitting, i said read it, read it, tell me what happens. >> how do you prepare? >> i don't necessarily -- what i have to do for "glee" is i do run-on sentences, so i have to start working on those immediately. so i'm driving around town talking to myself. >> you have a great couple of years. >> yeah. >> you're now celebrating your second wedding anniversary. >> in may, yeah. >> and your first year, you guys moved. >> oh, i know. >> we wrote a book together. >> you wrote the book. >> she quit her practice in sarasota, came out to los angeles with our daughter to be with me and we built a house all in the first year. >> they say that that's stress, but you seem to be handling stress very well. >> we handled it quite well. well, we handled it. >> congratulations. >> thank you for coming on for us. >> thank you so much. i appreciate it. >> that does it for us. your local news is next. we'll see you tomorrow right here on "cbs this morning," as we continue the conversation. thank you for joining us. >> take it easy. [ male announcer ] subway is the only place under the sun

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