good morning. it's thursday, july 19, 2012. welcome to studio 57 at the cbs broadcast center. i'm charlie rose. erica hill is off today. more controversy in the trayvon martin case. in his first interview, george zimmerman says the shooting was part of god's plan. i'm gayle king. uproar on capitol hill as michele bachmann accuses hillary clinton's top aide of having ties to muslim extremists. i'm norah o'donnell. is iran targeting u.s. interests. we go inside the stealth war that has global implications. we begin with a look at today's eye-opener. your world in 90 seconds. >> it was all god's plan and for me to second-guess it or judge

it, i'm not a racist. and i'm not a murderer. >> george zimmerman makes a public defense. >> offering an apology to the parents of trayvon martin, but he still claims it was his life in jeopardy. >> he said you're going to die tonight [ bleep ] and that's when i didn't have any more time. i'm sorry that they buried their child and i pray for them daily. >> intensified across the city and capital of damascus. >> syrian rebels strike at the heart of the regime. >> a bomb killed three top government officials including bashar al assad's brother-in-law. >> the violence has only gotten worse. it's a situation rapidly spinning out of control. >> israel is vowing retaliation for the bombing of a bus. at least eight people died. american passport as well as a fake driver's license from michigan. 80 mile an hour wind pummeled parts of the midwest.

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telling his side of the story. >> last night in his first in-depth television interview, he defended himself but a pal jazzed to martin's parents. jeff glor is following the story. >> norah, good morning. he had no regrets but also that he was sorry. >> i just think it's a tragic situation and i hope it's the most difficult i'll ever go through in my life. >> during the interview with fox news' sean hannity. george zimmerman talks about the moment he came face to face with trayvon martin and -- >> he said you're going to die tonight and took one hand off of my mouth and i felt it going down my chest towards my belt and my holster. that's when i didn't have any more time. >> sitting next to his lawyer, zimmerman appeared calm as he denied ever pursuing martin. >> i was going in the same

direction as him to keep an eye on him so that i could tell the police where he was going. >> the 28-year-old insisted self-defense was his only motivation. >> i'm not a racist and i'm not a murderer. >> when asked about regrets, zimmerman said he had none. >> i feel that it was all god's plan and for me to second-guess it or judge it -- >> but later, he appeared to backtrack looking directly into the camera to clarify himself. >> i do wish that there was something, anything i could have done that wouldn't have put me in the position where i had to take his life. >> zimmerman's lawyer, mark o'mara, says there were no ground rules for the one-hour interview. >> i have to interrupt at this point. >> he did jump in when a question came up about whether zimmerman and wife lied to the court about their finances. as for trayvon martin's parents, zimmerman had this message. >> i'm sorry that they buried their child.

i can't imagine what it must feel like. i pray for them daily. >> zimmerman remains out on a million dollar bail. his attorney says his trial could be more than a year away. jeff glor, thanks. earlier we asked trayvon martin's parents for their reaction to the remarks that the incident was part of god's plan. >> i don't know what god george zimmerman is worshipping. there's no way that a god that i serve had in his plans for george zimmerman to murder my son. >> we heard him say that they pray for you daily. i'm sorry they buried their child. i pray for them daily. how does that make you feel? >> that makes me feel still sad because i just don't believe what he says. it hurts a great deal. >> you don't think his apology is sincere?

>> no, i do not. i have a hard time accepting it because he also said that he doesn't regret anything that he did that night. i don't think god would have him in his plan to murder an innocent child. >> cbs news legal analyst jack ford is here. good morning. >> good morning, charlie. >> does this help or hurt george zimmerman? >> i think in the big picture here, knowing what they're trying to do. remember, most times the defense in a criminal case is the prosecution -- go ahead, you see if you can prove it. here, they're saying we've got a defense. a defense of self-defense which means they've got to come forward and prove some things. understanding that that's the picture, which is different for most trials, i think what necessity wanted to do is get his story out. get his side of the story. get the message out. i'm sure some people are saying it's nonsense, he's lying. others who are saying that sounds reasonable to me under the circumstances. >> as a former prosecutor and attorney, trial attorney, when you heard george zimmerman say

god's plan, what did you sna. >> i was scribbling taking notes as a prosecutor. one of the things you have to do as an interview, you should give them miranda warnings. that statement is just lick a stateme -- like a statement he gave police. prosecutors could pick out portions and play it. i'm sure you could see in some portion, god's plan coming out at the trial. >> as you were watching as a former prosecutor, did you see certain things that george zimmerman said that could be held against him? >> there's some things he said that the prosecutor will see and say that's different from what you said before. that's classic cross-examination. one of the things you want to do is show that they said something different from before. they're not telling the truth, they're making it up as they go. flip side, as a defense attorney, i'm happy his whole story is out there through his own words where he talked about being fearful for his life.

the key is here, not was he right in terms of fearing for his life. but was it reasonable under the circumstances. if it was reasonable in his mind nrt circumstances, then it's self-defense and it can fly. >> he didn't seem to have much emotion in the interview even when he apologized to the parents. does that help or hurt? >> you're not sure how people will respond. you're setting this up for potential jurors down the road. the more often he does this, the better he will get at it. it's a dry run, a rehearsal a little bit. but if you're getting on the stand for the trial and i'm his lawyer, if you feel emotion, show it. don't hold back. >> good to see you. united nations security council is scheduled to vote on another syrian peace plan this morning, one day after a bomb killed the syrian defense minister and two other top government officials. >> the white house says president bashar assad is losing control of his kun trip and the chief u.n. observer says we're not on track for peace.

clarissa ward reports from the turkish syrian border. >> we're hearing reports of fresh fighting inside damascus five days into what rebel fighters are calling "operation damascus volcano." speculation is still rampant as to the whereabouts of president bashar al assad. he hasn't been seen publicly for two weeks since he did an interview with german television and he made no statement after yesterday's bombings. opposition members are saying that he is in the alawite heartland of la katakia. his security apparatus is in damascus and latakia would be conceding damascus or backing away from the fight. one thing is certain, president assad find himself in an uncomfortable position. he no longer knows who in fact he can still trust and the free syrian army is touting the fact the major triumph saying it's

the beginning of the end for the assad regime. up until this point, we don't know who carried out the attacks and those rebel forces still face challenges. the regime is stronger and the free syrian army is not really a cohesive fighting coordinated force. for "cbs this morning," i'm clarissa ward antakya, turkey. bulgarian officials say a suicide bomber most likely carried out an attack. it happened about 250 miles east of the capital. the bombing killed seven people and injured at least 30. surveillance video released today show this bomber, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says -- john miller is here to tell us what he knows. >> new developments today. we see the video of bomber. we're told by the interior

minister's people that he was carrying a michigan drivers license. fbi people on the scene from the legal attash a in the country have looked at that and preliminary look makes it appear that's a counterfeit. you still have a situation where israel is pointing the finger, very strongly at iran. >> what should we be worried about at this moment? >> this is in the space of attempted attacks but this one was carried out. what is the potential israeli response and will it be swift? another angle is what's going on in iran as they're being held responsible for this at least in the public discussion? that they would be following these developments. but also, what happened in syria? this is a key partner state of theirs. you saw events that could topple that regime. within the power structure in iran, they have to be very

nervous at this point. >> is there any suggestion that there could be more of these attacks, that iran would want to carry out more of these terrorist bombings? >> i think the strongest suggestion, if you go backwards in recent events, you saw a possible attempt in july 3rd and july 7th in other countries. so this seems to be kind of a shotgun approach where they have a few plans out this and this is the first to succeed. >> john, thank you so much. later in this hour, john miller will be back with a report on the continuing shadow war between iran and israel, including an interview with an iranian double agent who supplied information to the cia. for much of the country, finally relief from the brutal heat wave but it took dramatic weather to make the temperatures drop. torrential storms stretching from boston to washington, d.c. and new york to chicago, dumped heavy rain and hail on city streets and knocked down suburban trees and power lines.

stunning images of the storm over manhattan went viral. former new york giants linebacker captured the power of mother nature from the window of his delta flight. in ohio, storms knocked out the electricity for 70,000 people. >> a lot of lightning unfortunately. >> a wbz weatherman in boston became part of his own weather report. lightning struck the station, blacking out the lights. but his continued report. >> that's probably why you're seeing black on your tv. you might be able to hear me right now. i'm not sure of that. we're not having any lights in here. power is knocked out. >> now to the race for the white house. the latest cbs news new york times poll shows president obama and mitt romney running neck and neck. 47% of registered voters who have a favorite candidate, back romney. 46% say they support the president. a statistical tie. meanwhi meanwhile, both are sparring over political ads.

we're pleased to have our guest back. >> i was in ohio for three days and you can't even talk about the race. people are polarized. you can't swing a dead cat in ohio and not see a political ad. it's as though it was october and we're still only in july. >> what's your sense of what ads are having an impact and what are not? >> okay. three keys here. number one is you got to trick people into watching it. they don't like politics. number two, tell them something they've never heard before. number three, there has to be a call to action. most of these ads, even though they'll spend $2 billion in what represents 2% of america, think about it, it would be better to buy people a steak dinner than to try to convince them on television. most of them are not working. >> the president's team is trying to define mitt romney and it's not working. >> it is working to some degree. even though your poll shows romney with a one point lead. it doesn't matter. i don't want to undermine the polling that you've got here. in reality, it's not the

nationwide polling that matters. it's what's happening in ohio, florida, colorado and nevada. i'm waiting for someone to focus just on those states. >> focused on ohio -- they've shown obama ahead in those particular states. it gives the obama team confidence that the attacks are working. i'm interested in what you think about karl rove's group, american crossroads is now going to spend some $9 million on ads refuting these bain attacks. doesn't that suggest that they're worried? >> it definitely suggests that they're worried and they should be worried. he works out of indiana, he describes building the stage that was used to fire him and everyone in his company. there was a company that mitt romney's bain had purchased. my god, when i showed that ad to people, they were silent at the end. i'm asking them, what do you hi? what's your reaction? they couldn't speak it was so powerful. by the same token, we've shown them ads of the money spent in the stimulus package that went

to china and europe. it's the same kind of reaction from people. how could barack obama spend my hard-earned tax dollars on foreign countries. you got this anger that's going back and forth with people. no one is giving you reason to vote for them. it's 98% negative. >> typically in a campaign are you giving the people reason to vote for you at this point in the campaign. largely about defining your opponent, as charlie said, and then everybody tuned out in august, everybody comes back and start contrasting visions for the future. >> it used to be the opposite. they would define themselves positively first and then go negative. i don't believe they'll come back to a positive. it's only going to be negative. here's the problem. for 80% of america, they're not experiencing a political campaign. for you all, the average person does not realize these ads. they live in california, texas, illinois. >> i think that's one of the common misconceptions.

you're talking about nine battleground states and millions of voters they're trying to reach. the tiny amount of people. >> the rest of america don't see the campaign. for those who do, they see it morning, noon and night. at a certain point, they're so frustrated with it because it's all negative. >> as a republican strategist, do you believe that mitt romney defended himself well here or that he should be -- >> no, i don't. >> exactly. >> anyone who knew bain. i was a student and professor. bain is one of the most respected companies for what it does. you wanted to work for bain because you knew the success. no one realizes that now. because all they see are the failures of bain. they haven't seen the successes of bain. >> there was another incident which happened in which a person in an audience described the president as a monster and mitt romney said no, while i understand why you're angry, that's not the thing to say. does that matter in terms of a perception of him? >> it matters in terms of we

want our candidate to be civil to each other. but we also want them to tell us. we want to know what's inside them. mitt romney has a significant advantage had that he's perceived as a problem solver. barack obama has a significant advantage in that he's seen as understanding people. who are we going to vote for, the problem solver who doesn't get people as much or the guy who gets people who can't solve the problem? that's why you're at a dead heat right now and we'll stay this way. >> thanks for joining us. time to show you some of the headlines around the globe. remember the prostitution scandal during president obama's trip to colombia last april. had morning the washington post reports the military sanctioned ten service members allegedly involved. three of the men plan to fight the actions through a formal court-martial proceeding. britain's guardian reports that apple has been ordered to take out ads saying samsung did not copy of ipad. the order comes from a british judge saying the samsung device

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you should not believe what you read about the court in the newspapers because the information has either been made up or given to the newspapers by somebody who was violating a confidence which means that person is not reliable. >> so you've had no falling out with justice roberts sm. >> i'm not going to talk about -- no, i haven't had a falling out justice roberts. >> no words exchanged, slamming of doors? >> no. >> nothing like that? >> nothing like that. >> best buddies? >> my best buddy on the court is ruth bader ginsburg. has always been. >> yeah. you disagree with her about everything i'm told. >> just about everything. [ laughter ] >> classic. supreme court justice antonin scalia in a rare tv interview with piers morgan denying he's feuding with john roberts

denying -- john mccain denounced them wednesday some sinister accusations. he was referring to michele bachmann and four other conservative members of congress that people with ties to muslim extremists have infill terd the government. >> huma aberdeen is -- nancy cordes has the story on capitol hill. good morning. >> good morning, norah, the state department as you may have imagine, has responded calling michele bachmann's accusations vicious and disgusting lice. ed rollins said she's being extreme and dishonest. >> these attacks have no logic, no basis and no merit and they need to stop. >> it's rare for a senator to publicly rebuke members of his own party.

but that's just what arizona's john mccain did yesterday. after five house republicans questioned whether one of secretary clinton's top aides has ties to terrorism. >> when anyone, not least a member of congress, launches specious and degrading attacks on the basis of nothing more than fear of who they are and ignorance of what they stand for, it defames the spirit of our nation and we all grow poorer because of it. >> minnesota's michele bachmann and four others sent letters to top intelligence and security officials last week warning that the muslim brotherhood, global religious islamic movement whose members have been leaked to terrorist groups in the past may have infiltrated the top levels of u.s. government. they pointed the finger first at huma abedin who is deputy chief of staff to secretary clinton and has been one of her closest aides for nearly two decades.

abedin, who was born in the u.s. and is a pakistani descent, has been described by both clintons as a daughter. but bachmann and the others wrote, huma abedin has three family members, her late father, her mother and her brother, connected to muslim brotherhood operatives and/or organizations. >> our country has gone through a mccarthy period. >> minnesota's keith ellison, the nation's first muslim congressman, said the letters reminded him of the 1950s witch hunt for communists in the government. he called bachmann's evidence misleading and fake. >> it's like a bizarre game of six degrees of separation. she mentions that her father, who has been dead for two decades, knew a guy who knew a guy who was connected to the muslim brotherhood in some unspecified way. >> abedin is a 37-year-old new mother who graced the pages of vogue in the past. she is married to former new york congressman anthony weiner who is jewish and a fierce defender of israel.

>> weiner resigned in disgrace last year after his provocative texts to female supporters were made public. in this week's people magazine, the two said they have worked hard to repair their marriage. i'm proud to be married to him, abedin said. this isn't the first time that bachmann has let her suspicions outpace the facts. last year she suggested falsely that hpv vaccines might cause mental retardation and in 2009 she urged the media to look into the loyalties of her congressional colleagues. >> are they pro america or anti-america. i think people would love to see an expose like that. >> we asked all five house members for an interview about their letters. none of them agreed. but in a statement bachmann said she is not backing down saying she would "not be silent as this administration apieces our enemies and claiming she wants a full investigation into the muslim brotherhood."

nancy, that's her motivation. what is her evidence that she cites? >> well, she and the others claim that about half a dozen members of the obama administration either have ties to the muslim brotherhood or may be part of the muslim brotherhood. they also claim that secretary of state hillary clinton brought a top ranking member of the muslim brotherhood into the united states. the problem is that a lot of their evidence either has been discredited or is very controversial. you don't see any members of the republican party and certainly not republican leadership backing them up on this one. >> and john mccain on the floor of the senate denouncing. >> absolutely. >> nancy, thank you very much. that terrorist attack wednesday in bulgaria, john miller is here to look at the escalation of the stealth war and what it can mean for america and its interests. tomorrow, republican congressman paul ryan on the budget battle and the race for the white house on "cbs this morning." [ kate ] most women may not be properly absorbing

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philadelphia police are looking for a man who tried to abduct a young girl in the middle of the day. the 10-year-old girl was walking with her young brother tuesday when the man came from behind and grabbed her. she struggled and he ran to his car around the corner. a $10,000 reward for his capture is being offered. what a scary story. welcome back to "cbs this morning." it was on camera. >> as we reported earlier, seven people were killed wednesday and dozens injured when a bomb went off in bus in bulgaria. hezbollah carried the terrorist attack they've said. >> been speaking to former cia officials as well as an iranian

official. john, good morning. >> good morning. what we saw yesterday in bulgaria is part of the escalating tensions between iran, israel and the west. but you're about to hear from a former iranian agent from that country's feared iranian revolutionary guard corps. a man who has been on the inside. he tells us that this surrogate warfare carried out in the shadows by both sides has been going on for more than a year. >> it began with the targeted killing of iranian scientists working on that country's nuclear program. then a computer virus was covertly deployed against nuclear sites. the virus, designed to make the sites self-destruct. iran publicly accused the united states, great britain and israel of being behind the plots. now, it appears iran is striking back. >> they're looking at this thing, saying we've got to respond. aggression has been taken against us, that's the first factor. the second factor is they're hearing the drum beats of war. >> that drumbeat is the

continued discussion over if or when israel might launch air strikes against more than a dozen underground suspected iranian nuclear sites. but iran has not backed away. since the killing of the last iranian scientist, iran has been linked to a series of plots. the bomb attached to the car driven by the wife of an israeli diplomat in india. a plan to use local organized crime hit men in a sniper attack against u.s. and israeli targets. israeli tar gets in georgia, a plot using a mexican drug cartel to kill the saudi ambassador in a crowded restaurant in washington, d.c. and just days ago, in kenya, a suspected plot to attack a synagogue in nairobi and israeli-owned hotels in mum bass a. the two suspected iranian agents captured in kenya on july 3rd are believed to be members of the elite revolutionary guard

force. this man, reza khalili was once a member of that group himself. for years, he said, also a double agent supplying information to the cia. we agreed to conceal his face for this interview. he says these attacks are iran's version of a warmup in the event of a conflict with israel. >> they're just sending signals that they're capable of and the ayatollah khamenei, the supreme leader that should war break out, alter roar cells will become activated and attack major interests of america countries and in america. allegedly by iran against iraeli targets, some analysts wonder why israel would keep provoking the very attack they're trying to avoid they say. >> the mind-set of this organization that is iranian intelligence service and this government, it's not a western

mind-set. we see stability as a goal. they see instability and revolution as a goal. >> reza khalili the former iranian agent says in the event of an air stiek, iran is prepared to up the ante by not responding militarily but a global campaign of terrorist attacks. >> should it become an all-out war, then they will definitely respond on war stage by terrorist attacks within the u.s., against america's interests, against israeli. >> intelligence officers believe iran has already done the pre-operational surveillance for a series of terrorist attacks. there's plenty of evidence that they have scoped out targets, taken photos, written plans for target folders for terrorist strikes in the middle east, europe, south america, even the united states. >> how do they pick the targets? >> i think we've seen something interesting in that regard, charlie. if you look at those plots at the beginning of this arc, you see israeli official targeted,

plot failed. half you can seed. israeli attack succeeds. they're targeting israeli terrorists around the world. i think they've done a shift to softer targets. >> john miller, thank you. good to see you. imagine having a nuclear bomb go off right over your head. we have the story of five guys who actually volunteered and lived to tell about it. you're watching cbs this

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gayle has a look at what's coming up in our next hour. hello. >> hello, charlie. hey norah o'donnell. 55 years ago today, five men took part in an unprecedented experiment. they agreed to stand in the nevada desert as a nuclear missile was detonated overhead. we'll hear from someone who was there and find out why they did it. we're going to hollywood for emmy nominations. find out if your favorite tv show will be honored or maybe not. actor daniels who stars in "the

newsroom" will be live in studio

a rare look inside nelson mandela's compound in south africa. he celebrated his 94th birthday yesterday as did most of south africa. 12 million south african children sang happy birthday to the former president and ant apartheid leader. that is good. welcome back to "cbs this morning." i'm gayle king. erica hill is off today. i'm charlie rosa long with norah o'donnell. spencer west reached the summit of mount kilimanjaro last month and we'll speak with him about that in a moment. but first, the story of what makes this accomplishment so unique from "cbs evening news" anchor scott pelley who met up with west while he was still in africa. >> the first half of the climb, there were lots of times there's like, i don't know if i'm going to make this. this is actually, if we're going

to finish it. >> spencer west finished on top in june. at nearly 20,000 feet, the kilimanjaro volcano is the world's tallest stand alone mountain. west is as full of adventure as any man we've met. take a step back. you see that the climber has no legs. >> my family and i were told by the doctors that i would never set out by myself. i would never walk by myself and i probably wouldn't be a functioning member of society. >> they didn't know what the possibilities could be? >> exactly. exactly. >> a genetic defect at birth made his legs useless. the doctors amputated at the hip. but that didn't break his spirit nor his stride. >> there must have been times you thought about giving it up. >> absolutely. but as we got towards the top, my two best friends were destroyed with altitude sickness. at one point they were walking and vomiting and walking and

vomiting. and to be really candid with you, it was one of the first moments in my life i was like, i wish i had legs today. it was one of those daisy wish i had legs because i would literally carry my friends to the top. >> it was seven days to the summit. partway he was carried. but mostly he used a wheelchair and walked on his hands. >> along the path to kilimanjaro there's these little statues and they call them care ins. we learned they're a symbol for when you are lost. if you see one, they signify where the trail is again. that's where i first saw myself. i thought maybe i'm a carin. i'm a symbol for other people when they're lost or feel a challenge is too big. i can be that. it's okay. if i can overcome this, here's the path and you can overcome it too. >> spencer west, welcome.

>> thank you. >> before we talk about climbing, what is it about you. give us a sense of who spencer west is. >> you know, it actually started with my parents if we're going to talk about who i am in particular. my parents are incredible. they raised me number one to not ever see myself as different but to focus on what i could do instead of focusing on what i can't do. i was told i would never be a functioning member of society. we refused to believe that. we sort of set out to redefine what's possible for me. >> somebody says let's climb a mountain and you say okay. >> a little more to it than just that. >> did you feel different when you were growing up sm did you feel i'm not like the other kids? >> in the beginning i didn't. my friends and family treated me like everybody else. i never thought i was different until i went out in public. then when i went in public, people want to know where are your legs, what happened? i was like, i'm missing something here i guess i am different. >> you tell this amazing story

about when you were in africa and you met a young girl. what did she say to you? >> yeah. we sat in the grass and these kids in kenya wanted to know who i was and everything about me. literally, where am i from, where are my legs, am i from the united states? after i shared my story, a girl said to me, she didn't know that losing legs happened to white people too. that changed the course of my life. i didn't realize that there was value to my story until she said that to me. i thought, i've been missing something. if i can inspire this girl to recognize ha we all have challenges regardless of where i come from, what more can i do. >> part of this you did as part of free the children. >> i'm an ambassador for free the children which is a mott for profit based out of canada. that was the volunteer trip i went on. this incredible community that helped me find my passion in the power of my story, i went back to kenya last summer to lead a

volunteer trip and saw the effects of one of the worst droughts in over 60 years. this community that helped me find my passion now needed my help. so that was the sort of catalyst behind the climb and why we wanted to do it. to go towards the drought and help these incredible people by raising $750,000 for clean water. >> spencer, i am so fascinated by you. really, i was in the green room. i'm a little smitten. you have this larger than life personality. most people have never met anybody that looks like you, sounds like you, can do what you could. they make a lot of assumptions, a lot of questions. what is it that you want us to know about you? you know, i want to know how you function. how does your body function. how do you live day-to-day. >> yeah. i'm just missing my legs. they're amputated just below my pelvis. what i want people to realize from me is a couple things. mum one, yes, i don't have any legs. that's the obvious thing. we can talk about that. the second piece is that doesn't

just define who i am. who defines me is my name, what i do for my job. what am i interested in. all of those things define who i am. not just i don't have any legs. we can talk about that. i would rather be moan for the work that i do and who i am as a person other than just spencer west with no legs. >> here's who you are. a man who climbs mountains. >> we were trying to figure out, should we get the ramp. you go i can do it. i can do it. >> faster on my hands. >> nothing you can't do. it's really an honor to meet you. >> likewise. >>

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it was on this date in 1957 that the u.s. conducted one of the most important tests of the atomic age. a nuclear tip missile was fired and detonated in the skies over nevada. >> what was happening on the ground at that moment seems beyond comprehension today. bill plante is at the national archives in college park, maryland with that story. hello, bill. >> good morning, gayle. would you believe that 55 years ago this morning, five guys desert while a nuclear weapon exploded 18,000 feet over their heads. it was the only test of that kind. it was all captured on film, which is now held here at the ntional archives. here's the story. >> minus one. >> a little after sunrise five

officers of the u.s. air defense summer uniforms took their position next to a sign reading ground zero, population 5. they counted down the seconds. >> 8, 7, 6, 5 -- >> as two air force f-89 jets swooped overhead, one fired a nuclear tip air to aramis i will about 1/8 of the size of the one over hiroshima. there was a blinding flash as the weapon detonated. >> a very bright light. fireball as red that's floating above us there. >> 13 seconds later, the sound of the blast wave. >> it's directly above our heads. >> this is a huge fireball. >> there was a sixth man there that day, george yoesh tacky.

a civilian cameraman working with the air force. he wasn't told the test was directly overhead until he arrived. >> i remembered i had a baseball cap. i thought i better wear that just in case. >> afterward he found out that the film he was making was to be government propaganda. >> it was a publicity stunt to show the american public how safe it was during the atomic bomb and if there was a war and there was bombs going off that it was safe for the general public. >> by the late '50s. americans were fearful of nuclear attack. >> duck and cover. this family knows what to do. >> duck and cover drills laughable today were thought then to provide some shelter. and back then, the u.s. didn't yet have intercontinental ballistic missiles. if soviet bombers attacked, the missile fired in that test was america's only defense. >> that was basically to show that life can go on as normal

with these nuclear air to air rockets exploding in the sky. >> pete kuran is a filmmaker who has done documentaries on nuclear testing. he released this footage with the human subjects and stitched it together. he wasn't surprised at what he found. >> they wanted to show that this was no big deal and they did everything they could to say this is no big deal. >> the five human guinea pigs didn't think so either. >> my only regrets, this is colonel bruce, that everybody couldn't have been here at ground zero with us. >> it was a wonderful thrill. >> we all had a good time. they were very happy that they went out. in fact, one guy passed out cigars. they were all smoking and slapping each other and shaking hands that they survived. >> well, don't you wish you could have been there? they measured radiation at the

time and said it was negligible on the ground and george, the cameraman filmed other testing then. he's still going strong at 83. he did tell us at the time, he thought that was just another job. didn't give it too much thought. then again, he said i was young. >> bill plante reporting live. i love your question just now when you said don't you wish you cough been there? i'm sitting here going no, i don't. do you wish you could have been there, bill plante? >> no i don't think so. the officers did live fairly long lives. but everyone who was there did have cancer at some point. you can't connect it. only one is still alive. he's 88. >> bill plante, always good to see you. actor jeff daniels just entered the building face to face with our newsroom. he's sitting in the green room. you're watching "cbs this morning." single shot. >> "cbs this morning" sponsored

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two titans of the written word are with us this morning. david is one of them. a pulitzer prize winning author of the legendary author of politics, culture, fiction and humor. >> i don't know what that means. he couldn't even get through it. >> comedian andy wore wits. he has a new home at the new yorker online humor channel. the two titans. >> i like it. i like it. i happen to believe, andy that humor is a sign of intelligence. i'm thinking you must be a straight a students. you seem to find humor in everything. >> i think that's overrated. i have so many collaborators that don't get credit like michele bachmann.

she's really a starter kit. i just kind of -- >> do you send thank you notes for being there. >> i should choose the gift that keeps on giving. you had that thing this morning where she says hillary is linked to this terrorist group called the democratic party. it's a shocking thing. >> but it comes from all sides of the political equation, doesn't it? >> absolutement. >> you get up in the morning and see that, thank you. >> they do my job for me. david you have said about andy, if there's something absurd, you can -- >> what's amazing about andy and the reason he's so, to be honest, web friendly is that he can see something that's on the evening news or the morning news and react to it comically like nobody else. he's out of the blocks faster. >> a lot of this is a new yorker going back to his roots? >> we've never stopped running. >> humor, andy appeared in print. >> in a sense, the fact that it began with a large dose of

humor. >> it was known as the comic weekly. >> comic weekly before the big profiles and the serious fiction and the reporting all around the world. the dna in the magazine is comic. andy is in that groove. the website wants to react to the news in a way that doesn't wait a week, two weeks or a month. we can be at one point a magazine that writes about a world series. it's a lit errie masterpiece. you want to react to michele bachmann's latest -- mccarthyism, instantaneous. >> doesn't the news -- is it more so that it lends itself to humor. >> it's always been this way. i did an anthology a couple years ago where i collected the 50 funniest american writers. mark twain and others were doing the same stuff i'm doing. everyone says fake news is the

jon stewart and -- this has been going on forever. the news is funny. as you guys know. >> it never stops being funny. jon stewart -- >> jon stewart was asked all the time when george bush leaves, aren't you going to have a deficit of material? that never happened. >> no. >> you have something to say about sarah palin an the convention. >> yeah. this is a personal cause. i hate it when people get out there and discuss their personal causes, which is not the new yorker's. let me say there is this business where republicans are not going to invite sarah palin to the convention. speaking as a comedian, i think that's unforgivable. i think we comedians lost so many people in the last year from donald trump to herman cain, rick perry. i wanted to raise some money. i'd like to give her a party a million dollars to invite sarah palin to the convention. >> andy, you have had the last word. the good news for us, is jeff

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jeff daniels approves. he says good music. welcome back to "cbs this morning." we've been watching jeff daniels in memorable roles for three decades, like "dumb and dumber," "terms of endearment" and god of carnage. >> he takes on the role of an anchor man with personal demons. >> your father, he was an

abusive alcoholic. >> i didn't say that. >> but he was, right? >> you got that in the 40 minutes that i've been sitting here that seemed like a week and a half? can i have a prescription now? >> he hit you? >> come on. >> he hit you, right? >> how many times did you see goodwill hunting? >> he hit you, yes. he hit your mother. >> yes. >> you have a brother, two sisters. he hit them, right? >> look, he didn't hit anybody once i was old enough to hit him back. >> jeff daniels, welcome. >> yeah. little violence. >> you're kind of comfortable doing this, sitting at a table now -- >> there's this move. [ laughter ] >> what else you got? >> hello. >> there's this move to here and then up. >> you got it down. >> got about three or four moves. >> who is will mcavoy? >> he is an anchor person for acn, a fictional cable news

network. he's got issues. he's brilliant at what he does, he's good at getting to the truth of the matter with any kind of guest. however, personally, he's a mess. it has to do a lot with mckenzie mchale his executive producer played by emily mortimer who we used to have a relationship way back when, she broke my heart. i love her to death but hate her. >> it's like call me, don't call me. >> who is boss? >> she's the boss much to my chagrin. >> i read that before this part came along, you were actually thinking about giving up acting, true? you are so great in this role? >> thank you. i'm tired of it and bored of it. you play squid and the whale. it's about a dysfunctional father. that's what you get offered. except it's five scenes and you're in a movie with some 28-year-old who is making $10 million and can't find his mark. i'm going, i don't need to be

doing this anymore. aaron sorkin and hbo come along and you're going i should still -- >> the script and the dialog, jeff, with the rat-a-tat-tat delivery. you describe it as an intellectual car chase. is it hard to do? it sounds improvised. >> not a word of it. the beauty of aaron sorkin, you memorize every single word and don't ad lib. that's not a negative. actors all -- you go to star school and there is a star school. >> okay. >> some people have graduated couple laud from star school and they can write. you have sorkin sitting there saying memorize my words. theater people know -- it's very good. >> that's great. >> it's not. >> if you have seen the show. i know. very good.

>> you know, it's a fabulous drama. it includes a love story and all the tension. so it's a great drama. there's a message behind this. i think it's sort of fascinating. i went back since i watched many of the episodes pulled the monologue where you make this change and sort of the broadcast. you say, we'll be deciding what goes on our air and how it's presented to you based on the simple truth that nothing is more important to democracy nan a well-informed electorate. you've said, you are admittedly a ratings who anchor and sticking out more tougher stories. >> right. >> what's the message? >> or getting you the information you need. >> isn't there a message that you and aaron sorkin are trying to deliver? >> i think there are many. specific to that is that i don't think we're informed anymore as a country. i think we have the attention span of a gnat. >> we do. >> with cell phones and twitter. that's all fun and great and a

great time to be alive. we don't need to know as much as we know. especially in a presidential election. when there's more candidates going on than actual stances on issues it seems. i think the american electorate should work a little harder at getting informed. that includes hearing truly listening to the other side. the left or the right. aaron, one of the things he's trying do is go, start paying attention. >> one of the things norah is pointing out, on the one hand, aaron has a political philosophy, a take on the world. that's reflected here, which is his take. at the same time, the argument that is expressed, you need the truth in order to make a decision about democracy. >> uh-huh. >> are we seeing aaron's truth? >> to some people, yes. to some people, less. it could be argued that there's more disinformation from the

extreme of one side than maybe from the other. here's what i know, charlie. is that whoever said it might have been chris matthews. but it's true. aaron, i think, says the same thing. you govern in the middle. that's where you govern. that's where democracy seems to live. at least to me. i'm just an actor on a fictional television show. what do i know? when tip o'neil and ronald reagan sat in the white with a bottle of scotch and worked it out, that's days are gone. also in the series, aaron keeps saying we're trying to present to you and right now it's beating up on the tea party, but why not? we're looking at trying to find the best two competing arguments and then throwing them in front of the electorate. that's what he's -- where he's headed. >> now that you know how this business works, you know we're live. we have to get it right on time. that means we got to go jeff daniels. >> drive safely. >> don't for get to tip your

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will you let your child watch jersey shore when your kids are 15 or 16? >> i think my child is going to figure it out anyway. it's going to be like your mom is snooki, eeww. >> is what mommy did, what not to do? >> yeah. >> newt seems mystified by this conversation. >> i saw your first book. >> oh, really sm. >> congratulations on best sellers. >> i'm trying to be like you. [ laughter ] >> they're getting ready in north hollywood, california, at this moment to announce nominations for the 64th prime time emmy awards. >> nothing for newt to do but laugh. there is sentimental favorites and number of worthy newcomers.

ken tucker is standing by. let's go live to the academy of television arts and sciences where the academy's ceo is about to begin. so they're gathering in l.a. and they're going to make the big announcement, ken. >> they are, indeed. >> in north hollywood, california. >> good morning. i'm bruce rosenblum, chairman and ceo of the academy of television arts and sciences. welcome to the 64th prime time emmy awards nominations announcement. this is truly a golden age of television and this morning we're honored to unveil those who are in the opinions of our members, at the top of their crafts. joining me for the presentation this morning is the star of scandal, ms. carrie washington. [ applause ] and the host of abc's hit jimmy kimmel live, mr. jimmy kimmel.

[ applause ] carrie, jimmy, thank you so much for being here this morning. >> this is a sex dream, isn't it? [ laughter ] >> wow. >> they roused me out of bed in the middle of the. >>. >> clearly. >> this could be just as good as noon, really. [ laughter ] >> jimmy, who are you wearing? >> this is from the husky baby collection. thank you for asking. would you like to begin? ladies first. >> i shall. the nominations in the drama series category are, boardwalk empire, breaking bad, downton abby, game of thrones, homeland, and mad men. >> finally. the nominees for lead actress in a drama series are. kathy bates, harry's law, glenn

close, damages, claire danes, homeland, michelle dockery, downton abey. julianna margulies, the good wife and elizabeth moss, madmen. >> for a lead actor in a drama series, the nominees are. hugh bonneville, downtonabbey. >> steve beau semi-. bryan cranston, breaking bad, michael sea hall, dexter. johnham, madmen and damian lewis, homeland. sniefrnlt f >> for outstanding miniseries or movies, the nominees are, american horror story, game change, hat fields and mccoys. hemingway and gel horn. luther. and sherlock, a scandal in bell

grave i can't masterpiece. the nominees for lead actress in a miniseries for movie are: connie britain, american horror story. ashley judd, missing. nicole kid man, hemingway and gelhorn. julian moore, game change and emma thompson, the song of lunch, masterpiece, just masterpiece. the nominees for lead actor in a miniseries or movie are: kevin costner, hatfields and mccoys. benedict couple ber batch, sherlock, a scandal in bell graphia, master spees pease. luther. woody harrelson, game change. five o clive owen and bill paxton, hatfields and mccoys.

the nominees for outstanding host for a reality or reality competition program are: tom bergeron, "dancing with the stars." cat deely, so you think you can dance. phil coe began, the amazing race. ryan seacrest, "american idol." and betty white, betty white's off their rockers. [ applause ] >> only old people get up this early i guess. here are this year's nominees for reality competition program. the amazing race, "dancing with the stars," project runway. so you think you can dance. top chef. and the voice. the nominees for variety series

are. the colbert report. the daily show with jon stewart. jimmy kimmel live. [ applause ] late night with jimmy fallon. real time with bill maher. and saturday night live. >> should i give a speech now or what? how does this work? that could have been very uncomfortable. that's exciting. nominees for lead actress in a comedy series are. zoe desh nell, new girl. lena dunham, girls. edie falco, nurse jackie. tina fey, 30 rock. julia lieu dreyfuss, veep. mike and molly. amy poehler, parks and recreation. >> the nominees for lead actor in a comedy series are. alec baldwin, 30 rock.

don cheadle, house of lies. louie see kay, louie. john cryer, "two and a half men." larry david, curb your enthusiasm and jim parsons, the big bang theory. all right. now we're going to complete theemia announcements by bringing back bruce rosenblum to. here he is, bruce. >> thanks, jimmy and carrie. the nominations in the comedy series category are. the big bang theory, curb your enthusiasm, girls, modern family, 30 rock, and veep. carrie, jimmy, thank you so much for your participation in morning. >> you're welcome, bruce. >> jimmy, congratulations on your nomination. there's a complete list of all the emmy nominees at emmys.com.

tune in to abc on sunday, september 23rd. we're here with ken tucker editor-at-large of entertainment weekly magazine. there they are. what do you think? >> i think it's a good morning to be a member of the down ton abbey household and girls, lena dunham the creator of that show, freshman year. it's a big year for them. >> what surprises you most? >> the fact that betty white replaced jeff probst in the best host for a reality show category. i think that's pretty surprising. >> did you see, ken, everybody cheered when they said betty white. she seems to be a crowd favorite. it wouldn't be a nomination if betty white didn't get a mom nation in some category. >> there were certain predictable things in the sense that breaking bad and madmen nominated. a lot of the nominations. but this hugh bonneville for

down ton abbey, michelle dock y dockery. also the fact that sherlock on pbs. it's really the biggest year pbs has had in a long, long time. it's a renewed life for them. >> when you tallied up, 81 for hbo, i think and the network, cbs the most with 60 nominations. >> the hbo often dominates the movie and miniseries category. game change and hemingway and gelhorn were terrific. cbs this very, very year after year solid comedy block. those big bang theory nominations, jim parsons. i was surprised that johnny ga electric i did not get nominated. >> kevin costner. this is what i think is interesting. you see big screen movie actors now nominated for tv. >> yes. >> you've also hit upon the other real good story about the emmy nomination, which is that hatfields and mccoys is a

miniseries that came out of nowhere. the history channel picked it up. it was supposed to be a feature film that was brought to tv. kevin costner and his production company said do you want to air this? they said yeah, okay. they were shocked the morning after what a huge ratings it >> wasn't it the number one cable-rated movie? >> yes, exactly. it's really both a testament to costner's savvy and to just the american public now for finding shows like this. it's really good. >> now, i did just notice in best actress, i think it was, there were like seven nominations as opposed to five. how many? does that mean there were so many good actresses. >> in a certain sense yes. the a cad mid changed the rules in the actor and actress categories. there are seven nominations. the other nomination which was significant was julia louie dreyfuss for veep. >> first time show. from seinfeld.

coming into the first season of veep. it could have gone either way. >> they need to have jimmy kimmel do the announcements all the time. he's a lot of fun. >> everybody should be in pajamas. >> you can suggest all the good thank you ken tucker. you're watching "cbs this morning."

>> picking up on what we saw, the emmy nominations. do you watch much television? >> i dvr a lot. i'm pulling for breaking bad. >> that does it for us. your local news is next. see you tomorrow on "cbs this morning." see you tomorrow on "cbs this morning." see you then. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com

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