good morning. it is tuesday, july 24th, 2012. welcome to studio 57 at the cbs broadcast center. i'm charlie rose. gayle king is off today. accused killer james holmes is back in isolation this morning after a strange day in court that raised more questions about the tragedy in aurora and treasury secretary timothy geithner tells us why he thinks tax cuts for the rich must expire at the end of the year. >> i'm erica hill. ncaa president is here to talk about the sanctions against penn state. first, as we do every morning, we begin with a look at today's eye opener. your world in 90 seconds.

>> the charges on which the court found probable cause is first-degree murder. >> the accused colorado gunman makes a bizarre court appearance. >> holmes appeared to be a mess. >> he did not speak and appeared dazed. the district attorney is not ruling out the death penalty. eight victims remain in critical condition. >> no price will repair the damage inflicted by jerry sandusky on his victims. >> i was, like, taken aback. >> joe paterno has been stripped of more than 100 of his football victories. he's no longer the winningest coach in college football history. >> syria hasn't ruled out using chemical weapons saying it would only deploy them against foreign

intervention. >> they will be held accountable if they make the tragic mistake of using those weapons. >> i've never been this close to dying. >> 18 months after being shot in the head, here she is on top of the french alps with her amazing husband. >> speechless in seattle. ichiro is a yankee. >> a bow to the fans in seattle after so many years. >> is it hard to be monogamous? >> no, not at 72. >> and all that matters. >> americans lost one of its pioneers. sally ride has died. >> america's first woman astronaut. >> on "cbs this morning." >> nothing says god bless the usa like a beret. captioning funded by cbs

welcome to "cbs this morning." the suspect in the colorado movie theater massacre is back behind bars after briefly leaving his jail cell monday for a preliminary court hearing. >> his public defender is expected to file a motion for a mental health examination for james holmes as prosecutors plan to charge him with killing a dozen people and injuring more than 50 others. jeff glor is in aurora with more. >> reporter: james holmes said nothing in court. it wasn't what we heard, it was what everyone saw. >> you committed the offense of first-degree murder which is a class 1 felony under colorado law. >> dazed demeanor, dyed hair. the man accused of the worst shooting in american history put on one of the most bizarre displays in recent legal history. >> do you have any questions about that initial advisement? >> we advised mr. holmes

thoroughly. >> reporter: for the first time james holmes was in a room with relatives of the victims. seated in front, ian sullivan, father of veronica moser-sullivan, the 6 year old that died. the silence raised more questions about his mental state and the release of his mug shot did not release him. holmes waits for hear formal charges on monday. victims wait for answers. >> the one question if i had a question to ask i would want to know why. >> christina blache is an iraq war veteran hit by a bullet last friday that went through her left thy and lodged in her right knee cap. her good friend alex sullivan died. >> i don't want the lame excuse he's given because he thought he was joker at the time. i want an honest answer why he felt he needed to kill or at least attempt to kill 200 plus people in an audience at a movie. >> reporter: do you ever feel like you'll get that

explanation? >> probably not. >> reporter: that may be for the best. after being shot, doctors have told him he'll never walk the same way again. >> done with him. i don't need to worry about him anymore. he's gone. you know, i'm just trying to focus on my family. whatever he does, or how he reacts, won't impact me anymore. >> reporter: the overwhelming expectation is that this will be a death penalty case but prosecutor carol chambers has not said when that decision will be made. three people are currently on death row in colorado. one has been executed since the death penalty was reinstated in 1975. erica, charlie? >> jeff, thank you very much. former fbi official john miller joins us now. good morning. >> good morning. >> how are they going to figure out this question that still

remains motive? >> it's possible that it will take a long time or that they won't figure out for two reasons. number one, they say they had a productive search at the apartment which is they found items, things, that may go to motive, but remember the only one who knows the motive is the suspect so unless he left a note or something that clearly states this is why i'm doing it, they have to go through the clues of things that were going on in his life and hints he might have left. it's still not clear. >> what has emerged so far? what's the most interesting thing about the profile of him? >> to me one of the things that is striking is less about personality and more about tactics. here's an individual who we see in court quiet but went into that theater and actually shooting and hitting with bullets more than 52 people of the 70 injured. here's a guy who went in with what we think is about 100

rounds. that gives him a 50% hit ratio. from law enforcement, when you go on the range and you shoot at a paper target, it is standing still and waits for you. that's a 90% to 94% hit rate in a lot of places. in combat shooting in the street, police officers often hit in ranges of 21% to 25% of their targets. the idea that transitioning from three weapons he could have a 50% hit rate on moving targets in a confusing environment goes to the idea that he's been practicing somewhere and investigators have been to two gun ranges he tried to get in but didn't and they're pretty sure there's one out there that he actually got to spend time at and they're still looking for it. >> he would have need to practice. does it say anything to you the three weapons he chose to bring? >> yeah, he chose the shotgun, which the expression the shotgun effect is blasting out. that is one weapon that he transitioned neatly from that to the ar-15 which had that drum

magazine of 100 which we believe jammed and then transitioned from that to the pistol until he was out of that ammunition. he was working effectively with three weapons. >> john, thank you so much. >> thanks, charlie. thanks, erica. this morning joe paterno's legacy is in shreds and penn state's program remains crippled after the ncaa dealt them a harsh set of sanctions. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, erica. the shock waves over yesterday's news here at penn state are still reverberating as the last remnants of the joe paterno memorial are being torn down. the big question here that remains for so many, what next? the impact of the ncaa's damning penalties leveled against penn state are beginning to sink in around happy valley and beyond.

>> you heard for all of the people that had nothing to do with this. they had hopes and dreams they won't be able to realize now. >> reporter: many believe the sanctions laid down will act over the next decade as a de facto death penalty. >> i can think of a more devastating decision made by the ncaa. >> only usc's four-year probation in 2010 comes close. that postseason ban was only two years and a total of 30 scholarships. paterno's infamous program suffered far more. after the news broke, current quarter stephon morris tweeted i'm not going anywhere. we are penn state forever but a "sports illustrated" cover paints a different picture. we were penn state. >> they just became a 1-aa school.

>> reporter: it was designed to crush what ncaa president mark emmert called a football first culture gone horribly belowrong. might have years probation and cutting the team beyond that time frame. it now appears the team is standing together. current members of the penn state football team walked past reporters yesterday without comment. whether the famous football program can recover from the cripplie ining sanctions remain be seen. it already suffered its first defection. greg webb said he would take talents elsewhere. >> i don't want to start school as a freshman and come into a mess of trouble where people are being victimized over situations where i didn't have control in it. >> reporter: the good news if

you can call it that is players will be allowed to transfer immediately without penalty and retain their scholarships if they retain good academic standing. as ncaa president mark emmert said yesterday, there's really nothing good in this situation that anyone should feel good about. charlie, erica? >> thank you. with us now to explain this unprecedented action is the ncaa president mark emmert. good morning. >> good morning. >> what was the intent of this? and what do you hope to achieve by this? >> well, the intent is fairly straightforward but the challenge is enormous. the intent is to make sure that we keep our values straight. we have the purpose of embedding in youngsters the kind of core values that we associate with sport. responsibility, honesty, integrity and fair play. when you have a sport program that cast those values aside for

the values of hero worship or winning at all costs, you lost track of what's gone on. we're trying to force everyone to look at why do we play these games and what is it about and keep those values in right perspective. >> are you using penn state to send a signal to all athletic programs at all universities in the united states saying rethink big-time sports at your college? >> well, the actions of penn state itself send that message. we are reinforcing that message by saying that kind of behavior is intolerable in intercollegiate athletics. we can't stand to the side and watch values of intercollegiate athletics be blown up in that fashion. we want everyone to pay attention. this is indeed a cautionary tale that the athletic tail can't wag the academic dog. >> you talked about how athletics should not overshadow academics and that's easier said than done. do you believe these sanctions are going to change a football

culture so engrained for so many people and it is above academics in many cases. >> we're not naive. i've been a university president and been a participant in some of the most successful athletic programs in the country. i know what that looks and feels like. this isn't about trying to hold down athletics. i'm one of the biggest supporters of athletics in the country. but it is about trying to keep perspective. trying to keep in balance the sets of values that we all hold so dear in the academy. >> there's been criticism about whether or not you overstepped your bounds with these sanctions because we're not looking at directly violating ncaa bylaws. how do you respond to that? >> i think again it's by saying this is a case that's not about any one bylaw or about any one rule. it's about an institution that had a severe systemic loss of integrity. it failed to maintain control over its athletic program. there were multiple violations

of any sense of ethical conduct. those are the things that surround and build up the culture inside an athletic department and we can't abide that. rather than saying there's any one specific rule that's been breached here, this is a systemic failure. >> clearly there must have been a sense of some kind of balance? what would be going too far and be too harsh? >> many people wanted us to impose the so-called death penalty, suspension of play. the reason that i and the executive committee decided not to impose the death penalty, felt it was too blunt an instrument. it affects too many people that had utterly nothing to do with these affairs. the marching band didn't have anything to do with this. the mom and pop that's running the hot dog stand in the town didn't have anything to do with this. the rest of the institution probably had nothing to do with this. we're trying to focus the penalties where they are most likely to change the culture.

we're saying to penn state, don't worry about going to the rose bowl next year, worry about getting the culture right and the values right and in a few years you can worry about going to a bowl game. >> who suffers by what others did? >> everyone does. in the end, there's no pretense here that this is a surgical strike here. it affects everyone. that's the unfortunate reality of where we find ourselves. this is not a happy day for college sport. this is a very, very difficult moment. >> thank you so much. mark emmert, president of ncaa. turning to politics. presidential campaign got back into gear on monday and mitt romney is now getting ready for his first overseas visit as the presumptive gop nominee. >> it's the kind of trip most presidential candidates make as they establish their foreign policy credentials and jan crawford is in london this morning where romney will head later this week. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, erica. last week mitt romney was

campaigning hard in those key swing states like ohio and pennsylvania and this big ben, houses of parliament in london is, a long way from ohio and pennsylvania but coming here in the middle of this heated election battle is a strategic move by the romney campaign. >> the world looks for american leadership and american strength. >> reporter: that's the message romney will take on his seven-day trip to europe and the middle east. the campaign says the trip is to learn and listen but it's also to burnish romney's credentials on foreign policy. he'll start in london meeting with british officials including prime minister david cameron and former prime minister tony blair and attend the opening ceremonies for this year's summer olympics. ten years after he took over the salt lake city winter games and solved its budget woes, an accomplishment he says is further proof he can solve problems on a big scale. next romney heads to israel where he meets with prime minister benjamin netanyahu.

it's romney's fourth trip to israel. an important stop for jewish voters, a key voter. grade on foreign policy? >> an f across the board. >> reporter: a fair number of americans would disagree with that. in our latest poll, 47% of the americans we surveyed said they thought president obama would do a better job of handling foreign policy. 40% chose romney. charlie and erica? >> jan, thank you. the head of the arab league said in an interview today the time has come for syrian president bashar al assad to step down. assad's government admitted for the first time it has chemical weapons but says it won't use them against syrians who oppose assad. rebel forces are concentrating the fight in syria's largest

cities. >> reporter: the battleground, the streets and alleys of syria's largest city and its most important commercial center. the rebels say it will take over here. government troops are determined to drive these fighters out and the resulting extreme violence has caused thousands of civilians to flee for their lives. just over 200 miles to the south in syria's capital, damascus, there's a heavy troop presence after a free syrian army offensive there failed. people in most neighborhoods say life hasn't returned to normal yet but they do say they can get out and buy the essentials to survive. the events of the last couple weeks have left syria's regime looking shaky but no reason to think its collapse is imminent. time to show you some of this morning's headlines from around the globe. the telegraph reports seven former employees of rupert

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♪ >> this is wild. this is what happened when some tourists were looking at glaciers off the coast of iceland. huge chunk comes crashing down creating a massive iceberg tsunami. the iceberg actually comes right at them forcing them to crank up the engines and speed away. we were discussing in the studio some of this may cranked up the engines and sped away sooner but the video is lovely. >> welcome back to "cbs this morning." the prince and princess of monaco celebrated their first anniversary this month. >> they discussed their marriage in a rare interview with holly williams in london this morning. holly, good morning. >> good morning, charlie. good morning, erica. it's not every day you get a personal audience with royalty even if this particular prince

and princess are perhaps less well known than the more famous couple that live just down the road here in london. we sat down with monaco's head of state, prince albert ii and his wife, princess charlene at their palace and afterwards we were invited along to the swimming pool. in case you missed it, there was a royal wedding last year watched by 2 billion people worldwide. the second in line to the british throne wasn't the only european prince to tie the knot last summer. just weeks later about 800 miles due south, prince albert of monaco married a former olympic swimmer from south africa. it was a glittering ceremony with celebrity guests. a year on, the couple invited "cbs this morning" into their

home. the 700-year-old palace perched on a cliff top above the waters of the mediterranean. may i ask how is married life? >> i think it's wonderful. i can't speak for charlene. we're having a wonderful time. >> reporter: may i ask you, how is married life? >> great. i recommend it. >> reporter: prince albert's family has ruled monaco since the 13th century. the tiny country is less than one square mile in area. what it lacks in size, it makes up for with its wealth. monaco is famous as a playground of the super rich with residents who pay zero income tax. they're not shy about showing off their money. it's a big change for the former

athlete whose father was a salesman. how is it being a princess? >> yeah, it's great. i don't know how to answer that honestly. what's it like being a princess? >> one second. >> reporter: at that point the prince asked for the interview to be paused. it's clear his wife is still finding her way in a very different world from the one she grew up in. the last princess of monaco and prince albert's mother was grace kelly. she brought hollywood glamour to monaco in the 1950s. the press called it the wedding of the century. your mother princess grace was an icon of beauty and style and elegance. and some people have noticed some similarities with your wife. were you at all struck by their

similarities when you first met? >> i think every human being is unique. that's the beauty of the human race. i knew that whoever i chose to marry, she would be compared to my mother. i was ready for that. i think charlene has her own very wonderful personal qualiti qualities. >> which qualities, may i ask, do you -- >> gosh. >> palace official decided that question was too personal. perhaps understandably given that the couple's private life is a source of constant tabloid speculation. at 54, prince albert is 20 years older than his wife dubbed a "playboy" prince by the media, he fathered two children out of

wed lock. when he finally decided to settle down, many in monaco heaved a sigh of relief but the wedding was marred by the rumors the bride was having second thoughts. days before the wedding, french newspapers report the bride tried to run away and fly home to south africa. then during the honeymoon there were stories that the prince and princess were staying at separate hotels. when you see those stories and hear those rumors, how do you cope with them? how do you respond? >> i really do not read anything that's printed. i think rumors -- >> reporter: the stories are nonsense to your mind? >> those rumors were completely untrue and it was very unfair.

we know the source and we've been able to deal with that. it was a very unfair treatment. >> reporter: princess charlene retired from competitive swimming five years ago but now she's returned to the poolside to host the south african swim team as they prepare for the london olympics. what prompted you to make such a generous gesture? >> you know, opportunity presents itself. i thought, i would offer the team to come and climatize here before london. >> one of the young swimmers will be competing against michael phelps in london. >> i think nearly every single person that i see on the street will come up to me, have you met the princess? yes. we're for monaco. we've seen her a couple times. it's been really awesome. >> reporter: the princess told us that she sometimes misses competing and she loved the

discipline of training long before she met prince albert this was her world. now determination that made her a champion in the pool is helping her adapt to a new job as a princess. >> everything is a process. i think with time on my side. >> that was my brush with royalty. i was surprised at how informal they were. i had to call the prince and princess your heiness but palace officials said i didn't have to curtsy. >> what is your assessment of this relationship and i'm serious about this? the sense of what it is to be in the limelight like they are. >> well, i only spent about half an hour interviewing the couple. at times they looked uncomfortable but then so might many of us if we sat down and answered questions about our

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no control over at all is happening for the next 8 1/2 minutes. >> reporter: her passing prompted an outpouring of sympathy and praise. president obama wrote sally's life shows us there are no limits to what we can achieve. maria shriver tweeted every time a woman dreams of conquering the next frontier, she will stand on sally ride's shoulders and nasa called her a trailblazer. she paved the way for the 42 other american women nasa would put into space. two of those women were tragically killed when "challenger" exploded in 1986. her larger than life career had humble beginnings. >> i had been planning to go into research in physics and was continuing with those plans until the very day that i saw the announcement in the newspaper that nasa was

selecting astronauts. >> reporter: she answered that simple newspaper announcement and wound up making headlines. for "cbs this morning," seth doane, new york. >> sally ride only 61 years old when she died. she became such a symbol on one hand and she only had chance to go up in space twice and that's what they live for. she described the power when you lift up because of the disaster and presidential commission she served on, her next trip was canceled. >> an incredible role

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raindrops there in chicago on the lens. it is 8:00. welcome back to "cbs this morning." gayle king is off today. >> i'm charlie rose. it was one of the happiest nights of their lives. newlyweds going to see a midnight movie just days before the birth of their first son but as we hear from john blackstone, the colorado theater shooting changed their lives forever. >> reporter: for katie and caleb medley, this was supposed to be a happy week with the birth of their first child but in the same hospital where katie is in the maternity ward, caleb is in the icu under heavy sedation. at the midnight "batman" movie, he was shot in the eye. >> he's a strong guy.

i'm not used to him, you know, not used to seeing him like that. i don't want to see him like that again. >> seth medley is caleb's brother. >> caleb is stable but he's still in critical condition right now. you know, he's making some improvements. some small steps. but he is not anywhere near out of the woods. >> reporter: he hopes to become a standup comedian and has a series of videos online. some sharing his comedy. >> my parents kicked me out. >> reporter: some doing movie reviews. >> i go to a lot of movies. i went to a lot of movies this summer. >> reporter: among his reviews is the previous "batman" movie. >> you are ask why is commissioner gordon chasing after batman? don't go see this movie. >> reporter: one of the couple's best friends is michael west. >> you have known katie since

kindergarten. known caleb since -- >> since freshman year of high school. >> reporter: he's a funny guy? >> yeah. make you laugh the most mundane things. >> reporter: caleb's family has been told his medical bills could total $2 million so west is trying to raise money. >> caleb doesn't have any insurance so i put together a website. >> reporter: he was looking forward to being a dad. >> we talked about it. he needs to get better. he needs to be a dad. >> reporter: even under heavy sedation, caleb has somehow managed to make his friends and family feel just a little better. >> he will close his hands. he will squeeze and he has given the thumb's up. he's going to fight through this so he can be with his newborn

son as much as possible. >> reporter: for caleb and katie, the midnight "batman" movie was meant to be their last night out before they needed a baby sitter. for "cbs this morning," john blackstone, aurora, colorado. >> so far that website has raised $150,000 for caleb and his family. warner brothers is reportedly making a substantial -- that is their word -- donation to victims of the colorado shooting. the source says the studio behind the dark knight is in talks with the governor's office in colorado regarding a

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founder bill gates. i sat down with him to discuss the importance of the developments that have been made in the fight against hiv and the road that still lies ahead to cover. speaking of the united states, there's obviously a lot of focus right now on the campaigns and politics. the fact that this conference is being held in the u.s. for the first time since 1990 is a very big deal and yet the president won't be there in person. does it matter that he's not going to be attending? >> secretary clinton, secretary sebelius, a lot of great people from the u.s. government are at this conference. the u.s. should be very proud of its leadership role in this whale cause. the president has spoken out very positively on aids support. i'm sure people would have liked to have had him come. you know, if you have a choice of keeping the funding and not,

having the president or not, the funding is what saves lives. >> you'll take the money? >> and, you know, it's a very successful conference. fitting that it's back in the u.s. >> do you think he could have an a impact on the way americans view this issue and potential funding for it if he were to be giving the keynote address? >> he's spoken out on aids including domestic aids situation which although it's gone down hasn't gone down nearly as much as it should and ironically it is actually the nation's capital where this meeting is held that has the highest prevalence of aids in the entire country and so he announced a new program that's focused on learning and he picked people very committed to this cause. i give the u.s. government a high grade on what they're

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lost six pounds more than those who didn't keep them. women who skipped meals lost about eight pounds less and those who ate lunch out at least once a week lost about five fewer pounds than those who ate out less frequently. experts agree to lose weight you need to eat less but if you are honest and write it all down, you'll shed more pounds. i'm dr. holly phillips. >> announcer: cbs "healthwatch" spor sponsored by aveeno the natural oatmeal formula goes beyond 24-hour moisture. it's clinically proven to improve your skin's health in one day, with significant improvement in 2 weeks. for healthy, beautiful skin that lasts. i found a moisturizer for life. [ female announcer ] daily moisturizing lotion. and for healthy hair every day, try new pure renewal hair care, with balancing seaweed extract. only from aveeno. are made with sweet cherries and the crisp, clean taste of our cranberries.

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ways that government can conduct surveillance on americans using technology. the book is published by simon and shuster. you call what you do faction. usie ining facts for fiction bu like to be out in front of the headlines with it. >> i do. as a thriller writer my job is to beat the headlines and i want to put out a book this summer that's the next best thing that people will talk about. that's my goal with each book. this year with "black list" the explosion i thought would make a great premise with a thriller. what happens if all this data collection that we do in this country gets turned against us. i thought that would make for a great read. >> give me a scenario of how the data collection can be turned against us and what we mean by data collection. >> we have a digital exhaust that we give up. i give you an example. in 1975, senator frank church went on "meet the press" and

said if nsa turns listening ears on the u.s., we would cross to where there was no going back from. fast forward to 9/11, they turned the giant listening ears in and we became possible suspects. our phone calls, e-mails, all of that stuff, there's a reason the national security agency has outgrown its facility and had to spend $2 million to build a new one out in the desert. every day, you, me, our children, anyone that has anything plugged in is tracked and that data is stored, sifted and analyzed. i'm a law and order guy. i love when technology gets used to nail bad guys. what i don't want it to be used for is to track what i'm doing and what you're doing and say wait a second, is he possibly going to do something wrong. >> what would you recommend to

make sure that doesn't happen? >> it's very difficult. my kids eventually will want to get into social media. i don't want them in that sphere. one of the things that i am going to do for my children is set up fake accounts under fake names. their friends can know that my kids are not really sally doe and bill doe but there's a lot of different things that exist out there. part of what you have to do as a parent is really train your kids that is permanent. that's not footprints in the sand. that's outside of the movie theater in cement. >> you paint a scary picture especially for a lot of people sitting at home saying i'm on facebook and now the government will come after me. >> it's the best thing the government -- you could do for the government is put your relationships on facebook. >> they know where to find you. you get a lot of your information by talking to people in the government. you're part of this homeland security program called the analytic red cell program.

do you think maybe i shouldn't know that now even if it's background for a book. >> the rule when i got asked to participate in the program which after 9/11 when dhs was stood up, they said let's bring creative thinkers in from outside of d.c. to help us war game what the next terrorist attack might look like so we don't have a failure of imagination again which was one of the things the 9/11 commission said was the reason 9/11 happened. i say the red cell program is las vegas of the government. what happens in the red cell program stays in the program. how i come up with creative is the way i do for the novels so i don't use anything that's in there for the books. >> you do speak to other people. >> what's interesting is you can see a pivot in my last three books. i actually -- because my books are popular in d.c. in the intelligence community and department of defense and white house and other places, i have people i'll see in d.c. for

dinner and say i'm not supposed to tell you this but you need to look at this subject because they're concerned about it. government is almost not a collection of individuals, it's like its own entity. a living, breathing thing that gets fatter and fatter and fatter. there are good people in d.c. concerned with where the country is headed. as you know leon panetta said the next pearl harbor may be from cyberspace. >> that's a big concern. we're so dependent on the int internet that if we lost it and we've seen data that suggests that chinese would like to take away our ability to use the internet. the chinese are creative. >> you have seen data from where? >> let me put it this way. there's an interesting white paper that was done for the department of defense after the 2008 financial collapse and there were also papers done after the northeast blackout. >> done by? >> done by private contracting

groups. private organizations for the government that studied the data around the electrical grids collapsing during the blackout suggesting there were chinese hackers inside the system mapping our system and somebody tripped something. this is something the u.s. government does not want out there. does not want to be talking about very much because technically there are people that could say that's an act of war. chinese don't belong anywhere inside our internet infrastructure in the united states to be mapping it but they are actively mapping it and that's part of what i bring up in the book. i'm a beach read. have a great white knuckle edge of your seat thrill ride but if you walk away feeling like i learned something or i'm going to look into this more. >> do you assume we're doing the same thing to the chinese. >> i hope we are. when it comes to american security, i'm very passionate. i very much hope we are doing that. >> great to have you here. the book is called "black list." it goes on sale today. dna testing can reveal a lot

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secretary timothy geithner with wide ranging conversation about the economy and challenge of the european debt crisis and fiscal challenge that is coming up, the fiscal cliff, and we talked about that and other things including recent criticism of him. what is driving the confidence factor in the american economy? >> there are two clouds over us. one is the impact of europe on growth here and around the world and concerns about how they manage this crisis and the second is a broader concern about whether the political intuitions of the country are going to find a way to move again, to govern again, become unstuck and do things that are good for the economy in the short run and long run. >> what's the role of this administration in the european debt crisis? >> what we have done from the beginning is worked very, very hard with european leaders mostly in private to try to bring them together and support a more powerful set of reforms to restore stability and get growth stronger and put in place

a more durable set of institutions to make monetary union work. >> some say that merkel believes she can always come in and rescue at the last moment and that's her operative philosophy. >> the balance is very important. if you leave europe on the edge of the abyss as your source of leverage, your strategy is unlikely to work because you'll raise the cost of the crisis more expensive to fix and you'll do a lot of damage to politics of those countries because the human costs of what's happening not just in greece but across europe now are enormously high and you see that reflected in much more political extremism and huge really remarkable levels of deprivation for what were modern mature economies. >> what happens if you have tax increases, spending cuts, and a huge defense cut that scares what happens to the american economy if the administration and the congress cannot come to

some bargain on this? >> it would cause a lot of damage to the economy. >> tell me what that means. a recession? >> many people look at this and say, yes, you would at least get a recession. >> that's what the chairman of defense says. >> the cumulative size of those cuts, tax increases and spending cuts are very, very large. >> that's the reason they made them in the first place it would be so painful that people would try to make the agreement. how damaging depends on whether people believe it's a quick, short-term stalemate that will get resolved very quickly or they need more time to do that. it's hard to know that people would view this as something that washington is going to be able to heal and repair quickly. >> and the question then is why are you optimistic that this time you'll have a different result than you did last time? >> because i don't believe it is tenable to put the country through what we went through last august. i don't think it's possible for

us and responsibility for the elected leaders of the nation to try to defer these things indefinitely. i think both options are unatenable. to defer is untenable given how consequential these changes are and you see people struggle with realism about what's necessary. >> there's a new book written by neil barofsky that suggests while the t.a.r.p. program was necessary to deal with a possible financial collapse, the foreclosure part of that was not properly administered. you were not as enthusiastic about that as you should have been. >> obviously i don't share those -- >> what would you say to him to say you got it wrong. >> let's go to the substance of the basic debate. if you look back to that time, we talked about this a lot, you had an american economy falling off the cliff, shrinking at the

end of 2008. you had a financial system where you face a real prospect of banks failing across the country and people pulling money out of banks and complete collapse. it's like the power grid going dark for a long period of time. and what we did are things you would never want to do. you never want to have to do. with the authority congress gave two administrations and alongside a very aggressive and creative reserve including when i was there and with the recovery act force that congress authorized, we pulled the economy back from the abyss, stabilized the system and got the economy growing again and those things were absolutely necessary. there were no alternative. nothing would have been possible without those basic actions but many people looked a the that the and felt it was unfair and unjust. >> you said in a conventional way you bailed out wall street but you didn't bail out main street. >> our job was to protect main street, the average economy,

from the failures of the financial system. that's what we did. that's a just and necessary thing. to let it burn would have been much more damaging to main street, the average american, than what we did. this is very important. remember, people saw the spectacle of the government doing things we had never done before, putting hundreds of billions of dollars into the banking system. but it's important to recognize that we are going to earn a positive return to the taxpayer on those investments we made. >> he raises this question was tim geithner too friendly to the banks. >> i'm deeply offended by that. i find that deeply offensive. you know, it's the result of an urban myth significantly. a lot of people thought and wrote in publications of record that i spent my life at goldman sachs rather than as a public servant which is what i did in my life. i thought it was a private bank

rather than firestation of the financial system. people were deeply misled about the basic choices we faced and the alternatives we confront in that context. a lot of people including many critics said we went out and gave and lost trillions of dollars of the american taxpayers' money at that time. terribly damaging to the confidence. the cost of that has been damaging to the president and damaging to the integrity of the basic effort. >> a growing number of people are getting dna tested often. to find out about the family health history. this morning we'll see how hi there.

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unexpected results. >> reporter: neil schwartzman was 10 days old when he was given up for adoption in 1960. >> i had been looking for my biological mother my entire life. >> reporter: he grew up in montreal with loving but adoptive parents but questions about who he was. >> it's like having a picture puzzle and two pieces missing. >> reporter: finally he turned to technology. >> i opted to do what some people find strange. i spit in a test tube and sent it down to california. >> reporter: a test tube from the silicon valley come 23 and me named after the 23 pairs of chromosomes in human dna. in this region, built on information technology, the information gathered by 23 and me is the most personal of all genetic code. >> 23 and me strongly believe this is is something you should get. it's your information. >> reporter: anne wojcicki is the co-founder of 23 and me.

she's married to sergey brin, the co-founder of google. she wants to make dna information assessable as google has made so much other information. on the 23 and me website, users can learn how their genetic makeup can play a role in more than 200 diseases and physical traits. >> we started with the company with the idea we wanted to do something revolutionary where consumers could come and learn tons of information about themselves and revolutionize health care. >> reporter: that mission grew more urgent when 23 and me's testing revealed that her husband, sergey brin, carries the genetic gene for parkinson's disease but dna isn't just about health. online users of 23 and me can sometimes unlock long hidden family secrets.

or find long lost relatives. anne wojcicki got her mother and sister to take the 23 and me gene test and when anne first met tad, he somehow seemed familiar. >> anne said you remind me of my father. we may be related in some way. would you be willing to take one of my genetic tests. i said, sure, why not. >> reporter: turned out he is part of the family. a not so distant cousin. >> for me it was very special because i unfortunately lost most of my family in the holocaust. all of a sudden i have a wonderful new family. it's been a very, very emotional and thrilling experience for me. >> reporter: it's hard to beat what happened to jolie pearl. >> i had been doing family history research, genealogy research for a few years, and had developed a fairly extensive family tree. >> reporter: her 23 and me

results revealed the family tree had a secret branch. >> i got a notice on the computer saying, you know, you want it find your closest relative and i press a button and here's my brother. >> reporter: a brother she had never known. neil schwartzman. >> i got an e-mail from somebody who said, hey, i think you may be my brother. >> 23 and me as identified us as potential siblings. >> that was very stunning news. it rocked my world. >> reporter: over the next weeks they unraveled the story. >> she kept this secret which was terrible. just a terrible secret because it tore her up. >> reporter: their mother was pregnant with neil when their parents separated and felt she couldn't afford a second child. she kept jolie and gave up neil for adoption. tell me about this first meeting. >> first thing he said to me was

you're short too. >> which one of you had more questions when you were sitting together? >> her. >> you already knew you were adopted. i didn't know he existed. >> exactly. this was the end of a journey for me. for jolie, it was the beginning. >> reporter: it's a journey they are continuing together. in a lucky coincidence, neil got a job in california and now lives just a few miles from jolie. a brother and sister separated for 50 years reunited after silicon valley unlocked the secret of their dna. for "cbs this morning," john blackstone, california. >> powerful stories. examples of people following relatives or parents. personalized medicine being able to less and less expensively map your own human traits has opened us up to go places in medicine

and fight disease we never could have done before. >> one thing we talked about with bill gates yesterday is funding and how he's so dedicated to funding research for disease. the return on that investment is so great. >> and more and more they build up these personalized profiles and then they have a data base to look at cases and give insights into the genetic impact on our health. >> it is fascinating. many ways this is just the beginning of what we could potentially know. he has directed everything from "rock of ages" to episodes of "glee" and this morning the multidimensional adam shankman is here to talk about his new film "step up revolution." that's next. [ male announcer ] where did all the obama stimulus money go?

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a taste of "step up revolution" for you there. the series was the brain child of director, producer and choreographer, adam shankman. he's not busy enough so he moonlights on the hit show "so you think you can dance." pleased to have you here. >> thrilled to be here. >> why do you think these are so successful? >> they're about heroism and joy. they are very clean. wonderful movies about a sense of family and community and they are always about someone's self-discovery knowledge with dancing. people are just really into dance these days.

>> this is a fourth one. they are already talking about a fifth one. >> i said it would have to be done in space or maybe i said we should do swim up about synchronized swimming. >> it would be timely to get that done in time -- >> for olympics. that's what i was thinking. >> how do you talk people into getting involved? tom cruise in "rock of ages." >> they want to be a part of something. i tend to do joy. i don't do heavy. i'm into joy. i do very uplifting material. sometimes people want to be a part of it, you know. that's the only thing i can explain. >> they like winning franchises too. >> that never hurts. you brought "rock of ages" and tom cruise which you directed over the summer. didn't do as well as people thought at the box office. what was that like for you? >> it was weird. the people who saw it are loving

it like crazy. people have gone 30, 35 times to see the movie. >> those how people were with the musical itself. >> i went to the musical 387 times. it's one of those pieces of material. i'm proud of the movie. i think it's like a cult thing. it hurt for a second that happened but i'm proud of the movie. like i said, people see it absolutely love it. >> if you're in hollywood and you think about making a movie, is the first call to you, hello, adam? >> it seems to be rather quickly to me. just because of my involvement in "so you think you can dance" and that. >> what is it you bring? what are you looking for? >> i'm from theater. i feel like when i do my movies i bring my sense of theater to it and here's the truth. when i see a script, it looks like sheet music to me. when i see people moving, it

looks like core og rhoreography. people come to me for feel good. i'm a feel good guy. >> who has influenced you not only in the skill but -- >> i was raised on old musicals. i'm really super old fashioned. i worked for steven spielberg before. really good story telling. >> what you do appeals to the young. >> what i do appeals to the young because i work with a lot of young people and i'm super immature. i'll just be really honest with you. i'm really immature. >> you relate on their level. >> i woke up -- last week i woke up three times with the song "call me maybe" and twice i was thinking it and once i woke up singing it. actually out loud. >> colin powell sitting in that

seat where you are sang it so if you want to belt it out. ♪ so call me maybe ♪ i just met you >> don't be afraid to join in. >> please. i want charlie rose. >> your begging will not do it. >> this is the most amazing experience ever. >> you want to see me made a fool, don't you? >> we founded a foundation where we find arts programs in schools and we dance for our foundation to let's face a music. >> i will dance any time you want to. wouldn't you like to have him back? >> one of these days i would like to see charlie rose -- maybe you could choreograph something for him.

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