bye-bye. . good morning. it's wednesday, august 15, 2012. welcome to studio 57 at the cbs broadcast center. the presidential campaign takes a nasty turn from both sides. we'll speak with governor mitt romney only on "cbs this morning." at least 70 homes are destroyed as wildfires burn across the wegs and should you pay more to drink chocolate milk or iced tea. we're taking you to one city whose taking it to a new level. >> we begin with today's eye-opener. your world in 90 seconds. >> mr. president, take your campaign, the division and anger and hate back to chicago. >> mitt romney blasts the white house after vice president biden creates a campaign stir.

>> he's going to let the big banks once again write their own rules. unchain wall street. he's going to put you all back in chains. >> critics say biden's remark was a racially charged reference to slavery. >> the romney campaign reacted sharply. >> if they punch us, we'll punch back with brass knuckles. >> a fast moving wildfire in central washington state has already consumed more than 7 0e homes. >> the sun can go any one direction. we're very concerned about that. >> in california -- >> crews are battling a pair of fires. >> someone had shot napalm all across and it came like a rolling ocean wave of flames. >> an experimental aircraft designed to reach six times the speed of sound. new york to london in an hour. >> nashville to airport, two planes collided on the ground. >> this is an omg moment that

people text about. >> a bold thief who stole a huge tv in broad daylight. >> kicking in the door several times before getting in. >> charlie sheen threw out the first pitch in toronto. too much tiger's blood on that one. >> do you watch it because i'm hot? >> honestly? >> the only way to fix this is to -- >> one more time and you're [ bleep ]. >> you have to look at -- >> and all that matters. >> you don't drink coffee do you before? >> no. corn flakes. >> it's the secret to our success. >> she's figured something out, hasn't she? >> she's figured something out, hasn't she? [ laughter ] captioning funded by cbs welcome to "cbs this morning." charlie rose is off. the batting for the white house got especially nasty on tuesday with both sides throwing hey makers at each other. it started when vice president

joe biden seemed to suggest the republicans want to put black americans back in bondage. >> nancy cordes is covering the campaign in dubuque, iowa, where the president is wrapping up a three-day swing through the state. nancy, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, gayle. it started with the vice president and it ended with governor romney last night unleashing some of his harshest attacks to date. calling it a disgrace to the presidency because of some of its tactics. >> mr. president, take your campaign, the division and anger and hate back to chicago. >> speaking in ohio, governor romney accused the president of running a dirty and petty campaign. >> he demon eyeses some, he panders to others. his campaign strategy is to smash america apart and then try to cobble together 51% of the pieces. >> governor romney comments

tonight seemed unhinged. he trained most of his fire on governor romney's tax proposals. >> we do not need more tax cuts for the wealthiest americans much we need trelief to the workiwor work -- >> he was speaking in danville, virginia, in front of many african-americans that reminded some of slavery. >> romney wants to let -- he said in the first 100 days, he'll let the big banks once again write their own rules. unchain wall street. they're going to put you all back in chains. >> romney team quickly called it evidence of a desperate campaign. >> his campaign and his surrogates have made wild and reckless allegations that disgrace the office the presidency. >> former new york mayor and one time presidential candidate rudy

giuliani took things to another level when he suggested mr. biden might be mentally unfit for office. >> there's a fear if god forbi he was entrusted with the presidency, whether he has the mental capacity to handle it. this guy isn't bright. people think he talks a little too much. actually, he just is not very smart. >> the vice president told another virginia audience that he had been trying to play off a phrase republicans often employ about business, regulation. >> i'm told when i made that comment earlier today in danville, virginia, the romney campaign put out a tweet. put out a tweet. went on the airways saying, biden, who is outrageous. >> all of this kind of overshadowed a rather substantive debate going on between the president and governor romney over energy policy. the president has been here in iowa touting wind power. governor romney was in ohio

talking about coal and the question is, anthony and gayle, does in war of words continue to escalate today and how far can it go when we've still got 2 1/2 months left in this campaign. >> that's the big questions. nancy cordes, thank u. john dickerson is in washington. good morning, john. >> reporter: good morning, anthony. >> how much of a problem do you think biden's remarks are going to be for the obama campaign, john? >> well, it seemed just days ago this was going to be a substantive campaign. joe biden has caused these kinds of flaps before so they're kind of used to it at the white house. i think that this probably comes and goes like a lot of these other gap moments. it's a pain for the obama administration but i think while it gets those who are partisans on both sides in their usual fever, for most people who are undecided or who care about other issues, this is more proof that this campaign at times feels small enough to holding their hand.

>> we heard nancy cordes say how far can it go with two months left. we heard rudy giuliani call biden unfit for office. seems to be ratcheting up, don't you think. >> i think what will restrain that is that at some point voters are still up in the air about -- they will finally say stop it, grow up and campaigns will have to go back to being more rational. >> john, what do you make of governor romney's unusually fiery speech yesterday parts of which he wrote himself we're told. saying the president is running a campaign of division, anger and hate. >> he's passionate. that's always good for a candidate. he's had some difficulty connecting with voters. more to the point, it is something the romney campaign has been working on for weeks

and their allies and the super pacs have been working on for months. president obama said he would elevate the tone. he's not doing that. don't you feel disappointed in him. attaching to a larger disappointment about president obama. they want to suggest that basically any negativity coming out of the obama camp is a sign that he's not the guy he promised he would be in 2008. >> there were reports yesterday, john, that some republican insiders were concerned about governor romney's choice of paul ryan. that that's getting a lot of attention. some of it negative. do you think the governor is having a small case of buyer's remorse considering the controversy? >> i think governor romney is quite happy about his selection. but this was coming in, these reports and conversations i was having saturday morning when this was being announced from republican strategist, moderate republicans who said paul ryan is from the movement wing of the party and that's great for

conservatives in the wall street journal editorial page. but battleground states, ryan's specifics and his policies on medicare are just too much for people. that could be a real danger. that has kind of continued over the last few days. >> john, last night paul ryan said that medicare can be a winning issue for the romney team. can the republicans make this happen? it's never been an issue that played to their advantage. they seem to be playing it now. >> it's a tough issue. they have to play now because ryan has a specific plan about medicare. the question is, are they going to run on ryan's plan or are they going to attack the president and what the president has proposed as a part of the affordable care act. right now it looks like the latter. they'll run on medicare but basically by criticizing the president. we'll see if they switch to running on what governor romney and paul ryan believe. >> john dickerson, thank you.

in the next half hour, we'll talk to the governor and vice president biden's remarks only on "cbs this morning." hot, dry, windy conditions are making life difficult for firefighters across much of the west this morning. they're battling dozens of wildfires burning in ten western states. the most dangerous fire stretches 17 miles long east of seattle. this caused millions of dollars in damages there. ben tracy is in washington. ben, good morning to you. >> reporter: gayle, good morning. firefighters battled this blaze throughout the night. this fire has now destroyed nearly 70 homes. they are making some progress, though. about 10% containment of the fire. they hope to significantly up that number throughout the day. but it will be another long day on the fire lines. >> they are fighting it on the ground and fighting it from the air. but these walls of wind-whipped flames are proving to be a resilient enemy. >> everybody's house is gone, all my friends, neighbors, people i care about. you're going to have to move,

rebuild, hug, shed some tears and start over. >> as homes build to the ground, hundreds of people are forced to evacuate. some desperately trying to save their animals. >> they were trapped in the barn. now we're just -- we thought they'd be better loose. >> the so-called taylor bridge fire is believed to have been sparked by construction at a local bridge. it began monday afternoon and in hours, it devoured dozens of acres leaving behind miles of charld hillsides. rex reed is the incident commander. they're rushing to contain the fire because it's expected to get hotter here later this week. >> what that means, like opening a chimney on a stove. if we have active fire behavior, it increases that intense. >> nationwide, 40,000 fires have burned 6 million acres of land. one million more than average. the fires are largely fueled by drought conditions. >> it's devastating. it's absolutely devastating.

lot of people have just basically lost everything. >> he's dropping in front of the fire. >> late tuesday in california, a dc 10 tried to douse a brushfire up the hillsides of riverside county outside of los angeles. in northern california, 1,000 firefighters are battling a pair of fires that had been burning for three days now. forcing 500 homes to be evacuated. >> here in washington state, the two big things firefighters are struggling with are high temperatures and high winds. it is expected to be hot again today and those winds, while calm now, are expected to once again pick up. >> gayle and anthony. >> ben tracy, thanks. now to israel's nuclear standoff with iran. israeli leaders are hinting that the clock is ticking on a military strike. however, u.s. secretary of defense leon panetta said tuesday that the issue has not been settled. >> i don't believe they've made a decision as to whether or not

they will go in and attack iran at this time. obviously, they're an independent. they're a sovereign country. they'll ultimately make decisions based on what they think is in their national security interest. i don't believe they made that decision at this time. >> let's bring in mark phillips in london now. mark, good morning. >> good morning, anthony and gayle. what we're seeing is a dangerou& of game of diplomatic chicken being played. it's being played against the background of the u.s. presidential auction this autumn. the israeli calculation is that they can turn the screws more effectively now, have more influence now on the obama administration and the run-up to the vote than they're likely to have if he wins afterwards. the last thing that the obama administration would want right now is to be involved in another foreign conflict, particularly with the country as dangerous as iran. but israel thinks it will have, in fact, less leverage action so

that is the little dangerous diplomatic dance going on right now. statement, of course, there's debate within israel as to what the effectiveness of any attack would be, whether it would be merely to delay the iranian nuclear program and one theory, of course, is that if this israel were to attack, it might force washington's hand because it would be bound to be an iranian retaliation against israel itself. the clock is ticking and ticking louder. >> mark, is there any indication that israel is trying to get the u.s. involved in the attack? >> that's the basic game being played. as i say, there's a real theory within israel that, particularly the netanyahu faction and the war party faction if you will, wants to go ahead with the attack. they're making more noises to get the u.s. to turn up the pressure themselves. >> thanks, mark. a british bank is paying

$340 million to settle charges that it laundered billions in iranian funds. they settled but still denies helping iran avoid western sanctions. regulators to take away the bank's license to do business on wall street. >> now to the growing crisis in syria. a bomb explode north dakota downtown damascus this morning. it went off near military buildings and a hotel where u.n. observers are staying. clarissa ward reports that none of the u.s. were injured in the blast. >> this is the third explosion in the capital in just the last four days. according to syrian officials, the bomb was placed in a fuel tanker in an upscale central damascus neighborhood behind the hotel where u.n. monitors stay and where currently valerie amos, who is the u.n. emergency relief coordinator is staying. she is in the capital for talks with the regime about how to facilitate the passage of humanitarian aid across the

country. nobody was killed in this attack. one rebel group has claimed responsibility. they're saying that the target was, in fact, a military compound. this comes one day after former prime minister, the highest member of the regime to have defected, gave a press conference. in that press conference, he said that the regime was "falling apart morally, materially and economically." he also said that many officials inside the country are wanting to defect. they're simply waiting for the right time. perhaps most interestingly, he said that the army, the syrian military capacity has been greatly diminished by this conflict. he claimed that the army is only in control of 30% of the country. obviously it is impossible to confirm that estimate. for "cbs this morning," i'm clarissa ward, beirut. a warm winter in the u.s. has given way to the worst outbreak of the west nile virus in years.

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mitt romney accuses the obama campaign of anger and hate after vice president pied en says republicans are going to put lower income americans back in chains. >> it's it's an old game in politics. what's different this year is that the president is taking things to a new low. only on "cbs this morning," we'll ask the gop presidential candidate about all this tough talk and how running mate paul ryan is changing the campaign. and in the battle over obesity, one california city may tax all sugar sweetened

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welcome back to "cbs this morning." >> we told you earlier how on tuesday president obama and governor mitt romney traded some of the strongest charges yet in this presidential campaign. this morning, the republican presidential candidate is aboard his campaign bus in columbus, ohio and with us. governor romney, good morning. >> good morning, anthony. gayle. >> thanks for being here. governor, in your speech yesterday, what many are saying is your most fiery speech yet, you accuse the president of waging a campaign of division and anger and hate. did you write those words yourself? >> well, of course. the words i use in speeches are words that i craft or put in

there or agree with. in this case, i think people across the country who have seen the president's ads and the ads of the people who are supporting him and he won't distance himself from those ads have been a little astonished by what he's done and recognize that this is a critical time for the country. we've got 23 million americans out of work. one out of six americans have fallen into poverty and they want to know how we're going to get america working again. the president's campaign is about division and attack and hatred. my campaign is about getting america back to work and creating greater unity in this country which has always been the source of america's vitality and strength. >> the obama campaign said your remarks seemed unhinged. your reaction to that? >> very measured. i could be much more dramatic, i think. i think i'm hinged when i have to characterize what we've seen from the president's campaign. >> specifically, how is this campaign about hatred?

what do you mean exactly about that? >> i think, if you look at the ads that have been described and the divisiveness based upon income, age, ethnicity and so forth, it's designed to bring a sense of en mitt and jealously and anger. i know what i'm running for. i want to get america working again with more take home pay. the president seems to be running to hang on to power. i think he'll do anything in his power to try and get re-elected. i want to get the country going again. it brought me into the race. hopefully we can talk about issues and our differences on issues and contrast in that area. these personal attacks, i think, are demeaning to the office of the white house and the comments yesterday by the vice president, i think, just diminish the white house that much more. >> your reaction to biden's

comments about putting middle class americans back in chains. what did that mean to you, governor romney? >> of course, we have to have regulation on wall street and on every street to make sure our county works well so it's -- secondly, i just say that the comments of this nature sink the white house just a little lower. the american people expect something better from the president in these kinds of divisive comments. >> isn't the metaphor that republicans have used about shackling, including paul ryan? >> you know, i can't speak for anybody else. but i can say that the comments of the vice president as i heard them i thought were one more example of a divisive effort to keep from talking about the real issues. look, no one is talking about deregulating wall street and no one is talking about the kinds of languages this white house is bringing forward.

instead, we're talking about what is it going to take to get the economy going and put people back to work? i put out a five-point plan based on energy, education, better trade, balancing our budget and helping small business and the president's campaign has put out a campaign talking about me and attacking me. i think it's demeaning to the nature of the process, particularly at a time when we face the kinds of challenges we face. >> specifically, governor, you said after biden's remarks, the obama campaign had sunk to a new low. specifically, what are your problems with his comments? >> you know, i think i've expressed myself well enough. i think the american people had the same reaction, which is they listened to the vice president and they thought, again, an unfounded charge and a metaphor which is not uplifting, not uniting. but one which is once again a divisive attack. look, there are dramatic differences between the president's course and the course i would take.

my course is designed to get working again and to draw americans together. american history has been characterized as a story of the many in america becoming one. that's the nature of what we're going to have to do to get this economy going again. >> this week, you've been criticizing the president for cuts made to -- that the health care makes to medicare. but congressman ryan's budget makes the same cuts to medicare. how do you square that? >> well, first of all, congressman ryan has joined my campaign. and his campaign is my campaign now. we're on exactly the same page. my campaign has made it very clear. the president's cuts of $716 billion to medicare, those cuts are going to be restored if i become president and paul ryan becomes vice president. you know, the president, when he was campaigning in denver, colorado, four years ago, said that medicare was on a pathway to become bankrupt.

yet, he's taking $716 billion from the medicare trust fund to finance obama care. a new risky federal takeover of health care. my commitment is, if i become president, i'm going to restore that $716 billion to the medicare trust fund so that current seniors can know that trust fund is not being rated and get medicare on track to be solvent long-term on a permanent basis. >> you made the point at the beginning, governor, that congressman ryan is now on your team. there's been a lot of discussion about his budget. are you running on his budget or your budget? >> well, my budget, of course. imt i'm the one running for president. >> can you tell us how yours is different? >> we're very much on the same page. i said at the time his budget came out that i thought it was a serious and important effort to try and get america on track to have a balanced budget. i get us to a balanced budget faster than the plan he

originally put forward. my tax rate is 28%. that's my highest his is 25. that's the difference. they're very similar. the key is i'm running to get america working again. that's my priority. one thing we must do to get america working again and get people investing in new enterprises again is to show that we're fiscally responsible. we do not want to become spain or italy or greece. we have to show that we're willing to tackle the tough issues and one thing i like about paul ryan's record is that he's been a person who worked across the aisle in congress. he's respected by democrats and republicans alike. i saw erskine bowles, bill clinton's former chief of staff lavishing praise on paul ryan. this is a guy who is not only an intellectual leader, he's a person with capacity to work with people on both sides of the political spectrum. >> let's talk about your running mate for just a second. because some of the republican insiders in your own party are saying it's a bold choice.

but they're questioning whether it was a right choice. what do you say to those in your own party raising that? >> well, everybody has the right to express their opinion. i'm very pleased with the choice i made. i gave it a great deal of thought and consideration. there are a number of people in my party who have become vice president who are qualified to do so. i believe paul's intellectual capacity, his values, his record of leadership, his accomplishments and bringing together republicans as well as democrats and the general respect of he has among his colleagues in washington, those things suggest to me if i'm lucky enough to get this job, that he and i will be able to actually work with congress to break the stalemate there and get america on track helping the american people. >> governor, they're using the term bromance to describe you and paul ryan. what do you two have in common other than politics? >> well, we enjoy sports.

we enjoy our families more than anything else. paul is certainly a person who is an accomplished hunter. i wish i had his kind of skills. but we've had a lot of time telling jokes as well. we've been on the bus together for a couple of days. he and i both enjoy good humor. and i wish that i had as much dark hair as he has. he's still got me beat in that context. >> i notice you didn't mention that p 90x work out. is that on your game plan? what are you doing to stay in shape? >> you know, i have never tried that. i might have him show me how to do it someday. i get on the elliptical or treadmill. that's about it for me. that workout of his, he's in pretty good shape. >> you're looking pretty good, governor. thank you, sir for joining us this morning. >> thank you governor romney. >> an issue in the presidential campaign. on the ballot in a california

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this morning, another battle is bubbling in those soda wars. a city in northern california is asking voters if they want to put a tax on sugary beverages. as terrell brown report, that would go way beyond the soda fountain. terrell, good morning. >> gayle, good morning to you. it's a long running battle in the country. how to battle the obesity epidemic among young people. encouraging healthy diet and exercise goes so far. in california, they're hoping the threat of higher taxes will do the trick. this is 40 pounds of sugar. that's the same amount every child on average drinks each

year in sodas and other drinks according to dr. jeff ritterman. >> these are not innocuous drinks. these are bad for you. this is a bigger killer right now than cigarettes in our country. >> the cardiologist and city councilman from richmond, california, is behind a ballot measure which levies a penny an ounce tax on any beverage with added calorie boosted sweeteners. it's the first of its kind in the nation because it taxes the vendor who sells the drink, not the individual consumer. it's led to an all-out soda war with campaigns raising a total of almost $400,000. but it's not just a soda battle. the measure would raise taxes on everything from chocolate milk to nutrition shakes to sweetened teas and certain baby formulas. >> obesity is killing 5,000 people a year in new york city. >> new york's proposal to ban over-sized sugary beverages is just one of 63 attempts by state and local governments to discourage cola consumption as a

way to fight obesity. california has already eliminated sodas from its public schools. the city of el monte in southern california is following richmond's lead with a similar tax initiative of its own. richmond's approach is different. >> not imposing a tax on the product. they're imposing a business license tax that is raising the price of doing business in richmond and that cost increase is going to get passed along on all products. >> we're going to take in about $3 million. that's the best estimate. for $86,000, we can teach every third grader in richmond how to swim. >> the money raised from it, not one thin dime of that revenue is specifically anti-obesity programs in richmond. >> those in favor of the richmond might need to fatten coffers if they hope to win in november. some are outspending them by almost ten to one. if richmond's ballot measure is successful, it could become a

national model. other localities including san mateo county have expressed interest in following suit. we'll have to see what happens. >> to be continued. thank you, terrell. kobe bryant says mike krzyzewski is a perfect leader. coach k is home from the olympics after coaching the usa to basketball gold. we'll speak with him in our next hour on "cbs this morning." [ female announcer ] the magic begins when jif fresh roasts peanuts

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how do you prepare yourselves for this kind of strength to do what you have to do in front of the entire world? what is that process? >> once you have a dream for something, you can put your mind to it and work towards anything. >> years and years of practice. >> yeah. >> is that not a good answer? >> you don't drink coffee before -- >> no. jittery. >> but you -- >> eat corn flakes. >> eat corn flakes. >> that's the secret to our success. >> she's figured something out, hasn't she? [ laughter ] >> never get tired of seeing the women's gymnastics team, especially with dave. welcome back to "cbs this

morning." i'm gayle king. charlie rose is off. we're well covered today. 'm anthony mason and james brown is with us. >> i took a lot of coffee today. >> the men are talking about fashion. >> you missed this part. they were discussing what to do with their handkerchief. >> how do i match my pen to my outfit. >> the fashion segment of the show has been cut. a group of former u.s. intelligence and special forces is taking aim at president obama in a video out this morning. the organization accuses the obama administration of putting americans at risk by leaking classified information. it also says the president took too much credit for the death of osama bin laden. >> mr. president, you did not kill osama bin laden. america did. the work that the american military has done killed osama bin laden. you did not. >> senior correspondent john miller, a former deputy director of national intelligence is with

us now. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> what is the video and where did it come from? >> it's a carefully crafted 22-minute documentary-style video, highly produced kind of in the born identity way with a lot of radar dishes and graphics going. it looks a little bit like a spy film. what it is, is it's the mixture of some undeniable facts threaded through some conjecture, some speculation and some propaganda. it's an interesting piece which leads to the second part of your question, where did it come from? this is on sec. a term of art for operational security meaning keeping things secret. it's a 501 c 34 corporation where cough dengs at is one of the highest when it comes to corporate records. what we know is they claim to be national security people. they claim to be nonpolitical, their spokesman, however, is a former director of national

intelligence spokesman from the bush administration. and they started off with a million dollars. they solicit donations and say the identities of donors won't be released. it's a little murky. >> john, you said there were -- there's a lot of factual accuracy in the film. but the film says that the leaks come from the white house. is that a fact? >> that has not been proven. it is the subject of a department of justice probe. the obama administration has been most aggressive on starting leak investigations and leak prosecutions much to the unhappiness of a lot of the washington press. but so far the jury is out on that answer. on the other hand, there are some things in the film that you just can't get around. the leak of the name of the pakistani doctor or the leads that led to him being identified who was involved in the dylan continue operation.

that was bad. the early leak of the underwear bomber and an undercover british agent that -- that was bad. the leak of the stocks net virus, that was bad. they've taken facts and woven them together. i think it's a politically bent message. >> you talk about a politically bent message. the group says it's not political but it accuses the white house and obama specifically of putting politics ahead of national security. >> that's really interesting, james. like all interesting films that has a message, it has a direct message, which is the obama administration, through leaks, that they haven't proven or tied to the white house, but they're saying the obama administration, through leaks, has endangered national security. that's the direct message. the sub text that floats to the rest of the film is that frankly, on the national security basis, the obama administration, the big feather

in its cap that it did what another administration knt do. tracked down osama bin laden and eliminated him and the president is getting credit for that. what they're trying to say is he doesn't deserve credit. that's a big selling point. it's interesting also to note that the president is shown in this film saying i directed, i ordered, i supervised this operation. they're saying no you didn't. this was done by navy seals. in a realistic context. the president's advisers sat around the table from the secretary of defense to most of his senior intelligence people except for the head of the cia and told them the a abbottabad raid was a bad risk. >> he did it anyway. >> what you're seeing in this film is not a documentary. what you're seeing is the continuation of an ongoing political battle over message willing. >> what do they hope will come of it? >> i think they're trying to

raise questions for people who favor the administration for its strong stand against terrorism. the use of the drone, the killing of al qaeda senior leadership, including bin laden and have them say geez, i think these guys, that's not a good thing, it's a bad thing because through the message of this film, they're endangering the special operators by talking about it. one point they make in the film, they should have never released the abbottabad raid and announced that bin laden was killed that night. we had a crashed u.s. helicopter left on the scene blown up. we had four of bin laden's wives and the pakistanis on the scene within 45 minutes after we left. you don't think bin laden's four wives and umpteen children were going to tell them who was living in that house? i mean, it's -- again, it's got some information and it's got some spin. >> all right. john miller, thank you.

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today. that remix of her tv highlights was just put out in her honor. many restaurants are putting her recipes on the menu. happy birthday dear julia. welcome back to "cbs this morning." as we looked around the web this morning, we found a few reasons for j.b. and me to make some long stories short. >> i'm ready for it. >> chicago.com reports united airlines refused to help a 10-year-old girl at an airport. she was traveling the summer camp by herself and missed a connection. her parents called an airline official. when i asked to speak with her to make sure she was fine, she said that was not possible. when i asked to talk to her supervisor, she put me on hold for 40 minutes. phoebe made it to camp, but adding to insult to injury, united lost her bag. >> you will gasp at this, gayle. a young player was thrown out of a national scrabble tournament for cheating. another player saw him hiding blank tiles to apparently use in the next game. now, officials say the teenager

did confess and this is the first time anyone has been caught cheating at the national championships. >> that's big. blank tiles mean you can make up any letter you want. not good. >> usa today has a story on geek chic. at nasa, mohawk guy works on nasa's curiosity mission to mars. so does adam with his pomp dore. he's known as the elvis guy. president obama was watching them during a congratulatory phone call, he said you guys are a little cooler than you used to. >> my daughter says i lost my cool a long time ago. get ready for a new temptation. the daily news says cinnabon is expanding into the pizza market with a pizza bon. it's like a regular pizza but smaller. not as much sauce. that would be good for me. it uses the same bread.

i wonder how many weight watcher point that is. >> i don't know the points. i do know the calories, a gazillion. >> bloomberg says a connecticut homeowner is getting a big refund from her electric company. for the last 25 years, she was billed for the electricity used to power the streetlight near her home. she was reimbursed almost $10,500 when she finally noticed a strange charges on her bill. i'm confused how do you not notice the charges on your bill if you're being charged for the streetlights? >> and to pay them. better than a check from the irs. i'm going to ask a question or two. he led the star studded u.s. men's basketball team that won a gold medal in london. coach k, that would be mike krzyzewski talks to us approximate that incredibly emotional victory. more with the coach after the break. this portion of "cbs this morning" sponsored by mercedes-benz. experience truly great engineering today at your authorized dealer.

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in london on sunday, 12 of the nbas brightest stars defeated spain in men's basketball. you saw it, right? >> since 2005, coach k has led the u.s. team to an amazing 62-1 record. now he says it's time to step aside. he's joining us this morning from duke university where he's preparing for a new season at his, i guess we can call that his other coaching job. good morning, coach k. good to have you with us, buddy. >> yeah. good morning. good morning. it's good to be with you. >> coach, i'll have to start off, because you've indicated this is your last time, you're done with it. i'll know it'sreal if you tell me if the women in your household, are they saying this is it for you? >> they said it was it for me

after 2008. so i had to twist their arms. i've been -- my three daughters and my wife have a lot of influence over me, which is most of the time really good. >> what would it take coachk to change your mind. many people are saying, say it ain't so, coach k. say it ain't so. >> well, if spain hit a few more shots they'd be helping me out the door. it's time. i'm going to stay involved with usa basketball and try to help continue the momentum we have. we have three straight championships with beijing, the gold medal there and then world championships in istanbul in '10. now the gold in london. we got to get our teams ready for madrid for the world championships in '14 and the olympics in rio in '16.

i'll try to help in another capacity in getting us prepared. >> coach, while your public demeanor is normal placid, we know that you can get fired up. i found it interesting that most of the players who the public things are ego maniacal superstars won't listen to anybody. you were quite effective at doing that and returning the u.s. to the lofty perch. >> put modesty aside, what was effective it your communication with these players? >> well, first of all, they're good guys, james. they're really good guys. they're professionals. they get it. they're brilliant. they want to play for the u.s. so it's not like me having to do some magical things to get them to do that. they want to do it. they want to cooperate. and then you are honest with one another. pover the years.know each other so there's familiarity, there's friendship, there's trust and -- but it comes from them.

they were never a second one problem. not one second. and totally -- all of them, to a man say coach, i'll do whatever you want me to do to win the gold medal. and then they cooperate fully. we never have one problem with these guys. they're terrific. >> i think that's what happens when people love x respect and admire you so much coach k listen, many people have seen you in action on the sidelines. you're always cool as a cucumber. you're no stranger to winning but you show no emotion usually. i saw you jumping up and down on the sidelines. where did that burst of emotion come from? it was so great to see. >> i'm coming out with a new exercise video for 65 year and older people and i wanted to do like -- i think lebron lost a shoe during that game. no.

it comes from -- still being a kid. you know, i mean, you're basically into the moment and they were kids too. watching them celebrate at the end of the game, i think that's what everybody loved. because we see them as these magnificent stars which they are. but they're real people and they're real guys who want to win a basketball game and they want to win a basketball game for their country. they did and it was fantastic. >> coach, you've really put a humility out there, which has always been you for sure. congratulations. quite successful on the olympic scene. glad that you're going to continue to stay involved and keep that success going, coach k. >> thank you. thank charlie for the notes he sent me in london about how to attack the zone defense. they were very, very good.

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♪ welcome back to "cbs this morning." taylor swift premiered her new single called "we are never ever getting back together" on tuesday. it is the number one song on itunes. it took less than an hour to reach the top spot. taylor swift always sings about former love interests. guys are probably thinking i hope she's not talking approximate me. >> john mayer is listening. >> we're always hearing about discounts and deals supposed to save us money.

as you know, the so-called bargains can backfire. executive editor of cbs "moneywatch" is here with five things to know about discounts. first, good morning, jack. >> good morning. >> senior citizens checking accounts are more expensive than regular checking accounts. >> this was disturbing. the most egregious example was a checking account that cost $25 a month. it was the same as the basic checking but costs twice as much and a minimum balance of $5,000 to avoid the fee instead of $1500 people should ignore the labels. don't pay more to get 0.01% interest. and seniors need to look out for this. they pay higher interest rates for everything else than middle aged counterparts and get sold bad products. like variable annuities. get the basics and don't go by the label. go by the price. >> why does that happen to

senio seniors. >> egregious and no fair. >> it sounds bad. but i think they're being taken advantage of. it's a tough marketplace out there. look, if you're not as savvy, it's ease krer to lead you to, say a high commission product that the salesman knows he's pocket more money for selling it. >> people selling their home by owner aren't really saving money. >> this is an argument i make in my book. generally, you should avoid paying people to do something you can do yourself. in the case of a real estate agent, you need sales and marketing skills, need to be a good negotiator, do the research to find comparable sales and get that out there. plus, in this market, it's a lot harder. the real estate broker has to work harder to sell your place. you're getting more for your money. finally, there's a subtle bias against the for sale by owner thing you're talking about. true, the buyers' agents are required to show their client all suitable properties. but maybe they'll overlook you because you're not represented

by one of them. >> here's why i'm not allowed to do shopping online. i see free shipping and i think it's a good deal. how do you keep people like me from taking advantage of sales. >> you go to amazon and say you're getting $22 worth of stuff. if i get $25 i get free shipping. for 45 bucks, you're getting free shipping. so what you want to do is two things. one, just put that first thing in the cart. you don't have to push buy today. wait until you need something else. go back to the cart. it will still be there. or think outside the usual amazon box. the other day we were getting a book for somebody, wanted that free shipping. so she checked the price, the same price as the drugstore. so think about what else you can add to that cart that you really need. >> that's not me. >> then you talk about the upgrades on cars. that quite often you're thinking, i am going to upgrade, upgrade, you end up spending more money than you intended to. >> sure. what happens, this is a sort of

twist on the classic upsale. you get yourself the most popular car in america, the toyota camry. you just need something to get you from pointa to point b. i'll mark money off the base model. gayle, i could put you in the xle and knock a thousand dollars off. that's a big savings. if you look at the sticker price of the more expensive car, it's actually about $2,000 more. >> yeah, you saved a thousand but paid a thousand more. you need that moon roof, go for it? >> go for it. they throw in extra things you don't want. they throw in a package that gives you five things, you want two. >> what's amazing are the pickup trucks. guys need different capabilities if you're using it professionally. i looked at one difference. it was $5,000. you got a compass and a thermometer. the steering wheel matched the exterior design or something. >> i do that going to the movies buying popcorn. when you can get the medium, the large is 50 cents more.

okay, i'll get that. >> having a boat motor on my rear bumper won't work? >> if you roll into the water, maybe. >> that's what i was thinking. >> what should we know about buying in bulk, jack? >> this is the famous costco effect. you walk out with a ten-pack of peanut butter, laptop computer and nine pounds of smoked salmon. we looked this up. nine pounds much salmon, $125. that's probably a pretty good deal for that. but seven pounds will end up with freezer burn. go to the gourmet store, spend a little extra per pound. ultimately, only $40 left your wallet. you saved $79. >> jack, you're no fun. >> sorry. >> focus, focus, focus. >> think of all the money you're saving. >> i thank you. steve martin first got our attention. you remember with the arrow through his head, that wild and crazy guy became a fine movie actor. this morning, we'll show you what he told charlie rose about

doing stand-up his way. but

♪. steve martin was one of america's most popular stand-up comics in the '70s before he became one of hollywood's most respected actors. charlie talked with steve martin about his life as a performer. >> tell me about growing up. >> i was born in texas, waco, texas. i lived there nuntil i was four. we left for california when i was about five. we moved to englewood or hollywood actually. my father was interested in acting and my mother hated the heat in texas. and she was very excited to move to california where there were

movie stars and a different life for her, i think. >> your dad ended up in real estate. >> he ended up selling real estate, yeah. >> tell me how you developed your sort of philosophy about what you wanted to do up on stage. >> i first of all, just wanted to make people laugh. then as you start to get older at 20, 21, i'm in college at this point, i'm being introduced to new artists, new writers, philosophers, a whole other level of sophistication i'll say. i started to examine my act or comedy and at the time comedy was with some great exceptions, like bob newhart, was basically set up in punch line. they were told by people -- there was sort of a cliche, rat a at that time, rat a at that

time. >> what was the braeeakthrough r you? >> i think in the early '70s, touring colleges, things are starting to come together. playing every dump and every nice place and every kind of situation and you're just so experienced at this point. you go, okay, that was a bad show. and there's a confidence that comes out. a real deeper confidence that i think the audience smells. >> the commercial breakthrough for you was where, when? >> i would say -- that's a tough one. i have to give it three elements. one would be the "tonight show." second would be my first record. and the third would be saturday night live. >> when he was a young man, he never thought he'd see people standing to see the boy king ♪ king tut ♪

>> you've told me this, someone else may have told me this. you're one of those people who prepare really hard knowing, you know, that if you do this well, it's great for you. some people just sort of take it lighter than others do. i'm told and maybe you told me this, you really concentrate on that week that you're going to host on "saturday night live." i do. >> i find it stressful. because i want it to go well. so, you know, i do like to work hard on it or at least feel comfortable. >> we're two wild and crazy guys. >> have you ever done a performance and thought this is as good as i'll ever be? >> you know, probably. >> when was it or do you know? >> it would have been somewhere around 1975. i mean, it wasn't downhill from there. but looking back now, i go, that's when i was really funny. i think the reason i was really

funny is the act was unknown to people. it had not been exposed. it became exposed by 1978. the act you saw. everybody is way ahead of it. >> it's fun for me to see the people in the audience with the amateur arrow through the head. >> someone stood up to you and say, how do you be successful and you said you have to be undeniably good. >> well, really it is this. when people ask mes say how do you make it in show business or whatever. >> he's a dentist ♪ >> what i always tell them, i've said it many years and nobody ever takes notes of it, because it's not the answer they wanted to hear. what they want to hear, is here's how you get an agent, here's how you write a script. i would say be so good they can't ignore you. and i just think that if

somebody is thinking how can i be really good, people are going to come to you. it's much easier than doing it that way than going to cocktail parties. >> i still remember him in the mid '70s coming to college. he came to georgetown and performed. he led the entire audience with his banjo. down the stairs, into the quadrangle and across the campus. >> were you thinking, where are we going? and it doesn't matter. just having a great time. >> everybody was following him. >> he gave me goose bumps with that line. be so good they can't ignore you. that's great advice no matter what you do in life. >> most people work toward a standard of excellence. >> isn't it nice to see charlie's old interviews. i get a big kick out of them. go charlie rose and steve martin. jason silva calls himself a wonder junkie.

this video artist and philosopher is here to show us how technology is making our world a little better. we'll hear what jason has to say. he's joining us next on "cbs this morning." dad look, you can get eggs, bacon and pancakes for $4. umm. in my day, you get eggs, bacon and pancakes, and it only cost you $4. the $4 everyday value slam. one of 4 tasty choices for $4 off the 2-4-6-8 value menu. only at denny's.

if you like pizza, get ready to cough up more dough. will obama care make your pizza more expensive. >> it's driving the price of your pizza up the roof. socialism -- >> under socialism, people wouldn't have to foot the bill. health care would be the responsibility of the state and not private businesses which i'm sure your colleagues, bob, who is a liberal is going to point out to you except that -- come

on, man. shut the lid. that is not right. [ laughter ] >> you are hypnotizing him. that is not fair. >> it does make you wonder what's he thinking as he's looking at that pizza. >> couldn't decide on the pepperoni. jason silva has been called a timothy leary for the viral video achbge. he gets people excited about look at this video from this conference. a festival of new ideas. >> open this. it's huge. it's a universe of possibility. it's gray infused by color. it's the invisible reveal. it's the mundane blown away by off. we need to cultivate radical openness as a way of participating and accelerating evolution. >> wow. [ laughter ] >> jason silva is with us this morning.

good morning, jason. >> good morning. thank for having me guys. >> let's talk about radical openness. >> for me, it's about creating spaces in which ideas can intermingle to create spaces where the free flow of information can occur and where ideas can have sex. there's a school of thought -- >> ideas can have sex? >> yes. >> what's that look like? >> that's mind blowing. >> literally. >> richard dawkins coined the term, talking about ideas almost like sharing the properties of organis organisms. ideas can mutate and evolve and have sex with other ideas and so just like in nature, we want to create spaces of innovation like the coral reef for example which is the most biologically diverse. radical openness is a calling, it's a callout to say, let's create these spaces where this openness of ideas can happen basically. >> i can tell, jason, that you're somebody that loves life. i can tell by the way you move and you talk. you describe yourself as a

self-professed wonder junkie. >> yeah. >> what is it about you, how is it that you look at life that you see what? >> i just think that to be in a perpetual state of wonder is the ultimate antidote to ex i tension. there's a great line that it's a defense against being overwhelmed. when we go through life feeling stuck in the mundane, it's sort of safer than to sort of gawk at the ubiquitous everyday wonders that we might be disposed to ignore. i'm interested in content and in ideas that force us out of our comfort zone that decondition our thinking and make us see things as if for the first time. >> i can see why a class of yours would be riveting to say the least. i once worked for a tv executive who said to sugarcoat the education bill. you take the esoteric and you package it nicely. packaging is krit kalg in selling a new idea. when did you come upon that? >> i guess it's because there are certain ideas that are so big, i think they're even bigger

than their usual sort of academic packaging. as much of a fan as i am of ideas and wonderful books, i think that today if you don't have a.d.d., you're not paying attention. we're overwhelmed. there's so much content and attention is the new limited resource. i don't feel entitled to people's time if i don't want to tell them something fascinating. by creating content that's dense, idea dense, i call my ideas shots of philosophical espresso. they're going to invigorate you, pull you out of the comfort zone for two minutes and pull you out of context that they make you see things in a new way. hopefully that buzz will remain far enough that you will go and read more or study pour or go watch the ted talk that i mentioned. >> it's hard for people to come out of comfort zones. why do you think that's crucial for us to do? >> for one thing, the rate of

change is accelerating. we live in a world where technological progress is -- we have brains that evolved in a world that was linear and local. one of my favorite futurists and friends, he talks about when he explains linear growth versus exponential growth in terms of people getting comfortable with the changes. if you look at linear growth and take 30 steps, one, two, three, four, five, 30 steps later you're at 30. if you take them 2, 4, 8, 16, 30 steps later you're at a billion. that's the difference. it's that naturally, we look at things in the linear way. but technology is progressing exponentially. what that means is disruption. things don't change generation to generation. things change year to year, month to month. the world is going to be a very different place in 3, 5, 10 years. we're moving into a future as the physicist says where a new generation of artists will be writing genomes with the nun si that blake and byron.

when the canvas of art is biology itself, what are we going to make? what new forms of beauty will we create. so people are always afraid of new technologies because they're disruption and pull us out of our comfort zone. i read be somewhere when writing was invented, they criticized it. if you write everything down, you won't remember everything. it's going to atrophy your brain. people are afraid of change. in the end we assimilate and it's a good thing. >> so did you and chris, engage in intellectual gymnastics when you met a year ago. >> we did have a wonderful exchange. i remember feeling quite abuzz after our talk. >> what kind of buzz was it? >> that's the question. >> thank you, jason. >> looks like i need an iphone. i still have the blackberry. thank you jason. that will do it for us. your local news is up next. that will do it for us. your local news is up next. awesome is right.

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