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split in half. the >> driver unharmed. >> shaquille o'neal has majority share of the sacramento kings. ♪ sacramento >> and to quit smoking -- >> on "cbs this morning." >> always something going on here in new york city. opening day at the united nations. everybody agreed it's not as much fun without berlusconi. [ laughter ] >> announcer: this morning's "eye opener" is presented by >> announcer: this morning's "eye opener" is presented by toyota, let's go places. captioning funded by cbs welcome to "cbs this morning." good morning, norah. >> good morning. we begin this morning with the battle to win control of the nairobi mall. it's in its fourth day, gunfire and explosions erupting inside the building this morning. >> kenya security forces are making a final push to clear out

all militants. country's foreign minister says two or three americans are among the attackers. at least 62 people are dead in the siege. including a woman who is more than eight months' pregnant. charlie d'agata is at the scene in nairobi. >> reporter: day four of the siege still feels like a standoff. all morning, we've seen more kenya troops arriving, widening the area around the mall securing that perimeter. there's gunfire coming from inside the mall. all indications that despite assurances from the kenyan authorities, this siege is not over. this grainy photo from a mall security camera is the first image of the attacker since the siege began on saturday but it's at least a day old and if kenyan police know the whereabouts or numbers of any remaining militants, they're not telling. they insist they have the crisis under control. that soldiers are combing through the four-story shopping complex in a clearance operation to hunt down any remaining militants.

the group behind the attack the somali terrorist organize al shabaab insisted the siege is still under way. fighters are holding their ground and they're still holding hostages. kenyan officials say they now know the group responsible for the bloody siege has left 62 dead and 200 wounded made up of foreign fighters, including americans. >> from the information that we have, two or three americans. and i think so far, one brit. the militants, from the information we have, are young men, about maybe 18 and 19. >> somali origin or arab origin? >> at least from the u.s., in minnesota and one other place. >> reporter: witnesses who survived the mall massacre said some of the fighters looked foreign and includes at least one woman. british security forces say it's

possible that woman is samantha luther, dubbed the white widow, the daughter of a suicide bomber who attacked the transit system in 2005. she's thought to have left britain years ago. adding to the mystery behind the crisis, although kenyan authorities say the hostages have been released we haven't seen any new ones in days. for "cbs this morning," charlie d'agata, nairobi. our senior deputy is here, john miller. good morning. >> good morning. >> why is this taking so long? >> that's not an accident. that's not being driven by the forces, that's driven by the terrorists. had they gone up there and blown it up, this would have been a one-eye day story and far away. especially here in the west. borrowing the tactics and

procedures from the mumbai attacks which lasted three days and stretching it out, they not only hold hostages and hold ground. here's the key, they're holding world attention. they're the global focus for four days. that's the real goal. if they can stretch this to five, they will do it. >> our dean reynolds has been reporting from outside of minneapolis, minnesota, right who are in the united states where there's a jihadist pipeline where the fbi says more than 20 americans have gone over to mogadishu. as early as 13 weeks ago they believe. or 13 days ago. why is that happening, that the u.s. is a recruiting ground for this group? >> well, this is something that we discovered in the fbi back -- back in 200 -- 2009 going to 2010. there was a young man named ahmed who was a suicide bomber, when it turned out he was a u.s. citizen from minneapolis, that took everybody by surprise. we starting peeling back the layers and we found a network of

recruiters of travel arrangers who had started this pipeline and it's been going on since. it's been real engagement by the minneapolis police department. the police in st. paul, the u.s. attorney's office there and a number of other cities to engage and get to this counternarrative. >> so the next obvious question seems to be if there's such a strog group to recruit from in the united states, are we concerned about them carrying out attacks here at home? >> the real concern is they get trained over there, trained as suicide bombers, trained in tactics and shooting and they're under the radar. we don't know they got there and that they find their way back. and that is a concern. if you look at the increased security here at penn station, some what mike downey was doing in los angeles yesterday you know in the back of their mind, they're thinking there a companion piece for an attack here from the same network. >> and new elements that may be developing is whether some of these terrorists in kenya were

women. as charlie just suggested, the white widow, what about that? >> okay. that would be a surprise but it wouldn't be the first. this is a technique pioneered by the chechens, where they used women in long baggy clothes and birk kaes and so on. these are women whose husbands were killed in the fighting and say you, too, can be martyrs, and rejoin your husbands in paradise if you fight for the cause. >> john miller, thank you. and president obama addresses 9 united nations general assembly, one of the big topic, iran. bill plante is here in new york. bill, good morning. >> good morning, norah, when the president talks to the u.n. later, he'll condemn that attack on kenya. he'll call on the united nations to impress syria to give up

chemical weapons. look, but as you said, what everybody is waiting to see is whether he'll meet with iran's new supposedly moderate president. >> reporter: white house officials have said repeatedly that there's no meeting scheduled with iranian president hassan rowhani. but that doesn't mean none will occur. a meaning would have symbolic and historic rhetoric as a meeting with the two softens. the iranian president mahmoud ahmadinejad was a hard-liner on the nuclear issue and president obama left no question as to the state of the relationship. >> america wants to resolve this issue through diplomacy. and we believe there is still time and space to do so. and that's why the united states will do what we must to prevent iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. >> reporter: mr. obama started this year's diplomatic effort monday. his first day in new york. he met with the nigerian

president. for his part, the newly elected iranian leader who projects an image of a moderate is on a charm offensive in the leadup to the meeting. when he arrived in new york his office tweeted a picture of, quote, president rouhani making his way to manhattan. last week published in "the washington post," rouhani wrote, rather than focusing on how to prevent things from getting worse, we need to think and talk about how to make things better. there is a history here of unplanned meetings and encounters in the u.n. but when asked when a compheegt incur with president obama or a meeting by happenstance, he said nothing like that happens by happenstance. a relationship this important doesn't happen that way. even if it didn't happen there are too many outstanding issues. secretary of state john kerry is

meeting with the iranian foreign minister. norah, charlie. >> bill, thanks. the president will speak at the global initiative. former president clinton is hosting that. we spoke with him about iran and the issues facing the united states. we'll begin with kenya, first the personal, we've learned that someone close to the family, the clinton global initiative family was killed, showing you that terrorism is indiscriminate. >> yes. we lost one of our employees in our health access program which works on getting the world safe from malaria, the drugs and buildings around africa. she actually worked in tanzania, and i saw her a couple weeks ago when i was there but she was

nine months' pregnant just a couple weeks from delivery. she and the baby's father were walking that mall in nairobi because she wanted to have the baby in kenya. she thought that was best. they were both killed. >> with great sense of the tragedy that happens, do you believe, if you look at terrorism today, it's taking on dimensions that would bring it here to our shores? >> well it's been here once. and we've had some homegrown action. but i think the al shabaab, i think they clearly, you know, are targeting kenya, because the kenyans have gone into somalia to try to stop al shabaab from spreading into kenya. it appears to be that the kenyan government has been quite resolute and have done a good job. and i know president obama's administration has supported them in their efforts.

i think is this kind of a long-term deal. we have to go on with our lives. plan our normal lives and do our best to stop these things before they start and answer appropriately when they do. >> let me turn to what's happening here at the u.n., general assembly meeting. what's the risk for the president of the united states meeting with the president of iran, just meeting with him, to have some conversation, not an agreement, but a conversation? >> i think there's lots of things going on there that the rest of us don't know. and the president is calculating and was required to calculate, whether the benefits which would be enrm muss in terms of the atmosphere of seeing these two people meet and talk, would more likely trigger positive future developments, more likely compromise iranian leader with his own conservatives.

and also we don't know enough about exactly where they want to go. do they really want to get in a position where they're not ever going to have nuclear weapons which is what they say. or are we being basically diverted. i think it's just a division we have to leave with the two principals. with the president and the iranian president. but, clearly, there's a thought going on and they're rethinking their positions. and we have to do what we can to explore it. we ought to get caught trying. because we have nothing to lose by getting caught trying. >> in fact, the israeli prime minister believes that no deal is better than a bad deal with iran, that this could be a trap. do you agree with benjamin netanyahu? >> i just don't know. people have the responsibility for decisions -- in general, no deal is always better than a bad deal.

but i don't know enough about what options are available. and my guess is, we're well away from a deal. this is a question if we should start talking now, should there be a conversation at the top. or should there be other conversations in a meeting. >> we'll have much more with that conversation from bill clinton throughout the morning as the former president talks about hillary clinton's bid for the white house and the response to reported problems in the global initiative organization. that's ahead. only seven days remains for congress to reach a budget agreement and avoid a government shutdown. senator ted cruz, the republican from texas, is urging his fellow republicans to filibuster a house bill. that funds the government that takes away money for obama care. >> i believe nothing is hurting the american people more. nothing is hurting the economy more, nothing is damaging jobs more than obama care. >> but the filibuster strategy is creating a rift among

republicans. senator minority leader mitch mcconnell opposes a shutdown. senate majority leader harry reid said he vows any plan to defund obama care is dead on arrival. a former fbi agent is facing 11 years in prison this morning. he admits leaking top secret intelligence to the associated press. donald sachtleben shared classified details about a foiled plot in yemen last year. the leak sponsoreded a widespread government seizure of phone records. sachtleben is agreeing to plead guilty. authorities found him while investigation him in a child pornography case. homes east of the los angeles could be threatened by a wildfire. flames are burning in the san gabriel mountains above azusa. the forest service said the winds could send the fire toward

the canyons less than a while mile. the fire is only 5% contained. in colorado eight people are confirmed dead after last week'sed 42ing. 60 others are missing. vice president joe biden authorized the flood zone yesterday. he said the government shutdown would not impact relief efforts. >> they will not shut down even if the congress doesn't fund the federal government in a continued resolution. so i promise you, the president and i and the men standing behind you are going to stay focused on this. as i said when the cameras leave, the help is going to remain. >> fema is offering nearly $20 million for victims to repair their homes or find other places to live temporarily. it is time to show you some of this morning headlines. "the washington post" says a crackdown on the muslim brotherhood could grow. an egyptian court banned islamic groups on monday. hundreds of brotherhood supporters have been killed and thousands arrested since

president mohamed morsi was ousted in july. the chicago tribune says two suspects were charged this morning in last week's shooting at a park. it left 13 wounded. police say the suspects in their 20s played a significant role but neither is believed to be the sheer. "usa today" looks at retailers cutting back on hiring this holiday season. an employment firm predicts a drop of more than 50,000 positions from last year. part of the reason, a decline in consumer confidence. the los angeles times says there may be a slight rebound in illegal immigration. a new study finds the number of undocumented immigrants went up slightly between 2009 and 2012. last year, 11.7 million immigrants called the u.s. home. that approaches an all time high of 12.3 million in 2007. and florida sun-sentinel looks at the eight-day ordeal of men rescued at sea.

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a conversation with former president bill clinton continues. he talks about the role hillary clinton has taken on and the job many think she'll seek. >> i mean, you know she's been a senator from new york with a good record. secretary of state with a very good record. i think that her work here will remind people of her domestic interests and what she can do. plus, how life is different with both clintons out of government. a father gives up his parental rights before his daughter is even born. he turned to his cherokee heritage in hopes of winning her back. now there's a ruling in the case that reached the highest court in the land.

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this is a funny moment. neil patrick harris was previewing what was coming up on the show. and watch closely the guy behind him. >> jimmy fallon presents the award for lead actor in the series michael j. fox and -- >> that is a writer for the semis, this name is paul greenberg. i'm surprised he didn't notice. someone should have told him. what kind of an operation are they running? [ applause ] the emmys, they should have the best people running it. so unprofessional. >> welcome back to "cbs this morning." coming up in this half hour, a child custody battle that reached the supreme court. a father claims his heritage gives hip the right to keep this 4-year-old girl. we'll show you why she's back with her adoptive parents this morning. plus, a lawsuit brought by michael jackson's family will

look at an e-mail that could decide a billion-dollar case. that's ahead. more now with our conversation with bill clinton, he and hillary clinton are working together these days. they both faced a lot of speculation about the presidential campaign. we asked him about where the former secretary of state talked about her future. >> your wife hillary clinton said for the first time that she is going to take her time deciding whether to run for president. do you think her work here at the clinton global initiative could be a steppingstone, a foundation for a future run for president? >> yeah, but i don't think she needs that. but, i mean, she's been a senator from new york. with a good record. secretary of state with a very good record. i think that her work here will remind people of her domestic interests and what she can do with a fair initiative.

but she feels as i do we've worked very hard to keep this whole thing out of politics. with the democrats not getting involved. so i don't think so. i think it's a natural fit for her to come to work here. because when we met long time ago, before you were born, when we met, hillary was already really active in government organization. not me, i just cared about politics. she was a walking ngo. so it's kind of fitting we're coming full circle here but i don't think it's part of her calculus. >> go ahead. >> she said you are spend are month time together. and watching movies together and taking long walks. >> yeah. >> and so how is life different now? >> you know, it's funny, for a dozen years give or take, she was a senator and then secretary of state. and we basically had the weekends, except when we didn't.

so we were together about half the time, maybe a little less or not. and now, you know, hillary is on a constant self-improvement project. you know, she's always trying to improve me. i've having to get improved more regularly. >> how is she trying to improve you? >> well, you know, she just -- i'll be all the time to sort of tone up my exercise program, do this or do that. but we have -- we have so much fun. we still have a lot of fun together. >> she can do both of these things, clearly. >> what's that? >> i'll tell you now. do you think she'd rather be, today, she can do both -- president or grandmother? >> if you ask her, i think she'd say grandmother. but have found it's best not to discuss that issue. >> sounds like chelsea may have influenced you? >> i'm just trying to -- my goal

to live to be a grandfather. it's out of my hands. >> and the human side of the president. >> it is. and we'll have much more on chelsea's role at the clinton global initiative. she's taken a much larger role there. and another couple other topics we'll talk about that piece coming up. the 4-year-old girl baby veronica back with her adoptive parents. she's at the center of a three-year custody battle involving her biological father. it went all the way to the supreme court. elaine quijano is with us. >> good morning, we sat down with her parents, matt and melanie capobiancos. they told us how they were there and raised her for the first two years of her life. while dustin brown said he misunderstand stood and never meant to sign away his parental right. it's a heart wrenching case.

late monday evening, veronica's biological father dustin brown handed the child over to her adoptive parents, matt and melanie capobianco. it's a four-year battle that began shortly after the south carolina couple began the process of adopting veronica in 2009. her unmarried biological mother gave permission for veronica to be adopted by them. as a cheerky, she cited a federal law, protecting native-american being separated from their families and tribe. >> the only people that can really give you your history your ancestry is your family. >> reporter: the south carolina supreme court ruled in brown's favor and since 2011, veronica has lived with him and his wife robin. >> i want everyone to realize that she's happy. she's very happy with us.

>> reporter: but the capobiancos appealed. this past june, the united states supreme court ruled against brown because he gave up his parental rights. but a south carolina finalized the adoption. and he tried to appeal in oklahoma where he's raised her for the past two years. the oklahoma court brought the two parties to mediation but when the talks broke down the court dissolved its order on monday, paving the way for veronica's return to the capobiancos. cherokee nation todd humbry who has been aiding brown's fight said the return was peaceful as he spoke to a group of brown supporters. >> it's a bad day for the cherokee nation. it's a bad day for native children everywhere. but more importantly, this is a bad day for the brown family and for rer ronica.

>> reporter: hambree has suggested that brown will continue to fight for custody while the capobiancos who declined our request for an interview released a statement through their spokesperson saying their long legal nightmare has finally come to an end. they will likely head back to south carolina and once again resume their life with veronica. >> she's not coming to strangers. she knows us, we love her. we'll take good care of her. we'll just try to get along and do what's right for her. >> the cherokee nation attorney general said veronica packed a bag of clothes and toys to be taken. >> elaine, thank you. in los angeles, closing arguments begin today in the michael jackson wrongful death trial. ben tracy looked at some of the key evidence from the high-stakes lawsuit. ♪ >> reporter: michael jackson was expected to make $400 million

from 50 farewell concerts in london dubbed -- but jackson died just before the show began. his doctor conrad murray gave him sedatives to sleep. the jackson is suing aeg, the concert promoter, they claimed aeg hired murray and pressured him to make sure michael jackson was ready for rehearsal, despite his fragile health in that in an e-mail, the agent wrote about murray saying we want to remind him it's aeg, not m.j., who is paying his salary. we want him to understand what is expected of him. jeff gottlieb is conferring the trial for the los angeles times. how important is that e-mail? >> it could be the single most damaging piecing of evidence that the jackson family has. the battle in the case is who is

murray working for. >> reporter: aeg's lawyer say jackson himself chose murray and their agreement to pay the doctor $150,000 a month was really in advance to michael jackson but they were aware of the singer's health issue. this is it concert producer sent messages calling jackson a trembling basket case who might embarrass himself on stage. the ceo randy phillips responded we have a real problem here. the new trial included testimony from jackson's son prince and former wife debbie rowe. she claims the addiction to painkillers began when he was seriously burned while making a pepsi commercial in 1994. >> does this seem like a fair complex case for the jury to wrestle? >> i think it's a complex case. we've been here four or five month and there's a lot of evidence that we have to go

through. >> reporter: and there's a lot at stake. the jackson family wants damages that could total more than $1 billion. for "cbs this morning," ben tracy, los angeles. and a new study says we might be able to reverse one of our basic emotions. fear. that's next on "cbs this morning." ♪

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♪ in today's "morning rounds" a new study looks at mice when infected with a common parasite they lose their innate fear of cats. that finally can help us understand how disease changes the human brain. dr. david agus is the cbs morning contributor and a professor of medicine at the university of southern california. good morning, and tell us about the study. >> hi, good morning, charlie and norah. it's a very important study. the study noticed that when mice

got a certain infection, they weren't afraid of a cat. they would walk up and get eaten by a cat. they thought it was information in the brain. the group at berkeley found that if the infection went away it retained that nonfear of the cat. and that's important because what it's telling us infection can change the hard-wiring of the brain and that's an important observation. >> and -- go ahead. >> this back tear, taxoplasma is the one that women are warned that they shouldn't touch kitty litter when pregnant. t talks about disease, right? >> yeah, a third of the people are infected with toxoplasmosis. we always hear that john was diagnosed with cancer and they changed. their personality changed.

well, all of a sudden, we start to have an explanation. >> it's a reality, is it not, a lot of things that we're learning from the brain come from either accidents to the brain or disease and how it changes the brain? >> yeah, i mean, listen. it's very important. this is why our president, president obama announced a $100 million initiative to start to map the brain. this is the next frontier. we need to sort to understand it and take it head on. we need to focus on things like infectious disease and vaccines because it does affect all of us. and there are associations of people with toxoplasmosis. and people more likely to die in a car accident have this infection. these are important observations. >> and how do we understand that? >> well, i think what it means now, we got to pay anticipation and understand the mechanism in humans. mice, we got lucky there's one particular we could observe and

we saw how it changed. humans are very complex, whether an infection or disease, not just the organs that it's around, but it affects the whole body, all of us. we need to understand that and put that in a way going forward. >> so, doctor, just to say that, do you believe that some of these bacterial infections or viral infections are connected to psychiatric disorders like schizophrenia? >> i think they're related. to see how they're associated, they're probably not in everybody, we can actually over heim hit the root cause of these

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it is 8:00 a.m. welcome back to "cbs this morning." soldiers in kenya are still hunting the last of the terrorists inside nairobi's westgate mall. charlie d'agata is there. former president bill clinton says there's nothing wrong with his foundation's finances. we'll have more of that interview. and graham nash has spent 50 years making music. this morning, he'll tell us what went wrong with crosby, still & young. but first here's a look at today's "eye opener" at 8:00. gunfire, all indications that despite assurances from the kenyan authorities this siege is not over. >> battle to win control of the nairobi mall, it is in its fourth day. >> are we concerned about them carrying out attacks here at home. >> the real concern is they got trained there and they're under the radar, meaning we don't know they got there and they find

their way back. >> everybody is waiting to see is whether he'll meet with iran's new moderate president. >> clearly they're a thought going on and rethinking their position. >> only seven days remains for budget to reach a agreement and avoid a government shutdown. >> republicans should vote together on friday, against giving harry reid the power to fund obama care. >> the cherokee nation said veronica packed a bag of toys and clothes before she left her biological father to be back with her adoptive parents. >> i'm so happy for you. >> thanks. >> you just read that off a cue card. [ laughter ] ♪ i'm charlie rose with gayle king and norah o'donnell. security forces in kenya are fighting to secure a nairobi mall this morning. bursts of gunfire and explosions can be heard from inside. more than 60 are dead in the four-day siege. >> the kenyan government says

most of the hostages are free and it's close to retaking control. but the al qaeda-linked militants who claim responsibility say they have the upper hand. charlie d'agata is at the scene in nairobi. charlie, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, gayle, norah and charlie. what's clear is this is still an ongoing crisis. we've heard gunfire this morning. we've seen lots of kenyan forces arriving in the past hour to secure the perimeter around the mall. we've been kept well back. kenyan authorities have said they sent in a bomb explosion unit. we've heard a couple of explosions this morning. that may explain that. perhaps controlled explosions. not much is known about the militants that remain inside. from the number initially it was 10 to 15. now, we believe it's 7 or 8. all we've seen really is a grainy still shot taken from security cameras inside the mall. but we must point out even that picture that you may be seeing is sat least a day old.

meanwhile, the foreign minister's confirmed that two or three americans are suspected to be among the attackers. as you mentioned al shabaab, the somali group that claimed responsibility for the attack said the fighters are still fighting and they still have hostages. on that note, one mystery remains, the red cross said 65 people remain unaccounted for. charlie, norah and gayle. president obama is here in new york where he will address the united nations general assembly this morning. he's expected to focus on opportunities for progress and middle east peace, along with the syria crisis and iran. what everybody will be watching is this lunch today, hosted by the u.n. secretary-general, the new president of iran, hasan rouhani is also on the guest list. officials say they're not rule ought a meeting between the two leaders. president obama will also talk about his health care law with former president bill clinton. his ninth global initiative

begins in new york. it brings together high-profile leaders, celebrities to speak about the initiative. we spoke with former president clinton about the problems. we're here at the clinton global initiative this is the first year that your wife, the former secretary of state and your daughter chelsea are co-hosting. what's different this year? >> well first of all, we're having a good year. we've got more members coming in. we have morally new commitments. and we're going to have a lot of impressive progress reports. that's important to me. because when i agreed to start this, i said, i don't want to just have another meeting. i want people to commit to do something and i want us to check. so i think it will be more and better, i think and it will be focused on how do you mobilize people to actually get done what you want to do. and a lot of our commitments will feature that. will feature big partnerships. the kind of thing we need more of in washington. big partnerships.

people working across lines. >> this is a sprawling philanthropic organization. you have helps hundreds of millions of people. however, as you know, there have been reports about financial mismanagement. >> which have been clearly disproved i might add. >> no deficits? >> no. there was never a deficit. and we did have a rough year in 2009 because of the financial crisis, but we've always saved enough operating money for a whole year. so we never ran a debt. >> and the report that chelsea was coming in to clean things up. >> no, chelsea came in -- first of all, chelsea's been working around the foundation for two or three years now. and she did suggest and something i warmly embraced which is that we have a review of where we were, which is typical for any information at age 10. and several years in the first

decade, we were the fastest growing foundation in the world. >> but is this a reminder when you've got fund-raising for the foundation and the clinton global initiative and the same people are doing botha it's important to be transparent and vigorous in the account sewing that the impression doesn't develop? >> absolutely. and we are transparent. i believe in transparency. but if you are transparent. then you have to depend on the good faith of the people looking at your documents. >> you and i were on stage when you announced this, the clinton global initiative. >> yeah. >> and it was a surprise to people at that time. what has it not done that you believed it could do? >> well, actually, it's grown bigger, faster, than i thought it would. but i think we just have to keep working on it. but one of the things we started doing last year, and we'll do more of this year, is to give more progress reports on the commitments already made. and i'm hoping if we highlight

the progress report on equal footing with the initial commitments, that maybe that will attract more interest. that's the only thing that i thought would have happen that hasn't. otherwise, cgi has affected more lives in more countries than i thought. >> it's a metric accountability? >> yeah. >> it's interesting to hear the president talk about chelsea clinton, his daughter's, involvement. he did acknowledge he worked at mckenzie doing consulting. that she wanted to bring in an outside group to look at the books and suggest some changes. and she's playing a big role. >> indeed. i was struck by the earlier pat of the conversation we had this morning where he talked about mrs. clinton what he said about her. he said i was only interested in politics. i think that's still his primary interest. i was reading he's constantly on the phone with members of congress just finding out the latest intelligence, what's happening in the political world. >> during that context, hillary

clinton since she's an ngo, more interested in helping people. >> and policy. >> it was such a wide ranging interview, guys. i loved, charlie, when you said will it be president or grandmother? >> it almost looked like he was choking on his drink of water at that particular time. you all covered everything. he was very comfortable in answering anything you had to say. i was wondering about the issues raised about the money in the foundation. >> he also which we posted online gave a full defense of one of had its longtime personal aides who went through scrutiny for money raised for a company he has. he spoke up for his former aide. more of that online. >> what were you saying, charlie? >> well, i was going to simply say that the idea of being a grandmother, i think, she has expressed time and time again, something that she really looks forward to. >> but chelsea i think is not talking about it. >> she doesn't talk about it anymore. well, moving on, long before anyone owned one of those

minivans, volkswagen, you'll remember, had a very small bus. now the counterculture heading down the road of no return. michelle miller is showing us why vw's putting the brakes on one of its most famous models. >> reporter: for some, the volkswagen bus was the driving spirit of their youth. while other, it's an enduring relic, long past its prime. ♪ but for all its draw, volkswagen will stop producing the him-shaped vans after december 31st. that's when brazil, the only country where the bus is still being produced will start requiring air bags and antilock brakes in all new cars. >> volkswagen, rather than bringing the bus up to that standard, has decided to stop selling it there. >> reporter: that will mean the end of the road for a vehicle first introduced in 1950. >> really, without the volkswagen bus, you wouldn't have seen the popular edition of

kind of a mass market people-mover, like a minivan. it's something that's almost universal appealing. it making people smile whenever they see them. >> reporter: in the u.s., the buses sometimes resembled art projects on wheel. others were immortalized in actual workings of art like the one in this bob dylan album cover. "argo," the bus was less art and more hero. carrying employees to safety. the basic design has not changed much through the decades. a testament, the vehicle's found engineering and functionality. >> it really resonates pretty broadly, every segment of car guy in the world loves a volkswagen bus. >> reporter: the second car model introduced by volkswagen, after the beatle, since then 10 million buses have sold worldwide. for "cbs this morning," michelle miller, new york. >> are you sitting at home going i want a

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it before. it was to set a new guinness world record. no one attempted it, as far as i know. everybody's done invention in the world but there's still some out there. >> you did it on a shoestring budget, how much money did you have? >> it worked out to $10,000 a year, my visa were a huge expense. saudi arabia cost $250. >> where did you stay? >> i stayed with local people. >> you called it couch surfing. >> couch surfing. didn't really cost me anything. instead of staying at hotels that would have cost a fortune, i stayed with local people. and it gave me an extra dimension. also traveling on public transportation that was cheap. you got to hang out with locals. >> did you pack lightly? >> i did. i actually got my backpack in the green room. it's this big.

i only have one pair of trousers and shoes. >> the guy has the coolest passports number one, afghanistan, saudi arabia, iran. were you arrested twice along the road. you were a bad boy, were you? >> no, i wasn't. first time i was in cape verde. and employed some fishermen to take me over there. i was greeted by the cape verde authorities that knew i was coming because my mom had sent a fax telling them i was coming. they thought i was trying to get into -- >> what was the favorite place and most disappointing? >> my favorite place, the one that sticks in my mind. i love egypt and bolivia and thailand. i went to palau in the pacific ocean. i'd never heard

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♪ ♪ getting to the point . welcome back to "cbs this morning." coming up in this half hour, it may be the best known and most somber mission ever for air force one. bringing home president kennedy after that fateful day in dallas. author chris jones is covering new details about the flight. he's in our toyota green room. he'll show us what he's learned about the people on the aircraft that day. plus, graham nash, he tells anthony mason about the ups and downs of crosby, still, nash and young. the san francisco chronicle looks the a new law passed in california. it lets teenagers delete embarrassing online posts. awe if a minor in that state makes the request. south carolina is the state newspaper says the winner of last week's $400 million

powerball jackpot is a man from the columbia area. he wants to remain anonymous. he said he went out to buy hot dog buns. the convenience didn't have any. instead, he bought $20 worth of powerball tickets. it's the second time playing the lottery. >> his wife sent him to get hot dog buns and there weren't any in the store. "usa today" says burger king is rolling out its new french fries today. they're calls satis -- fries, why? 20% less fat. we turn to history, november 22nd mark 50 years since the asass -- assassination of robert

kennedy. in a moment, we will talk with author chris jones. but first a look back at the day that changed the nation. it was 12:30 p.m., central time, a friday, november 22nd, 1963. excited spectators lined the streets of downtown dallas hoping to catch a glimpse of the young president and his glamorous wife. but seconds before a limousine would go over a railroad overpass, gunshots erupted. >> there's been a attempt on the life of robert kennedy. >> walter cronkite broke the news. >> president kennedy has been given a blood transfusion at parkland hospital here in dallas. >> reporter: as doctors worked frantically to save him a crowd quickly gathered outside anxiously awaiting any news. >> from dallas texas, the flash apparently official, president kennedy died at 1:00 p.m. central standard time. 2:00 eastern standard time. some 38 minutes ago.

there was a great deal ofs did belief at first that the president had even been shot and even more disbelief that he was dead. 1:26 p.m., vice president lyndon johnson left the hospital for air force one soon to be sworn in as the 26th president. 20 minutes later, police arrested lee harvey oswald following a brief struggle. 28 minutes later, a wife -- white hearse carrying the coffin left. 2:20 p.m., the long journey home was about to begin. chris jones say writer at large from "esquire." his peace is called "the flight from dallas." welcome. >> thanks, charlie. >> how many people on the plane are still alive? >> just a handful. four or five, as far as i could tell. >> and they're the source for what happened on the plane?

>> some but there's lots of original documents, there's new audio, there's all sorts of information out there. >> what's the most interesting thing you discovered? >> the whole flight was a fascinating thing. i really like the human element of that for me it's a way to take that story that's so big and abstract, something with jackie sitting in the back of plane with the casket literally beside her still covered in her husband's blood. that's an amazing scene. >> at the end of the day, jackie kennedy lost her husband and the country lost a president. there was a lot of conversation whether jackie kennedy should be president when lbj was sworn in. some said leave her alone. others said she wants to be here. talk about that exchange. >> yeah she was in the bedroom. one of kennedy's principale guys

was saying, no, i'm not going to get here. and johnson she wants to be here. johnson said, no, she wants to be here. it was important for johnson to show some kind of seamlessness in this erupt transition. >> she's covered in blood because she said i didn't want to clean my clothes. >> she was besieged many times. no, i want them to see what they've done. >> you have small details throughout the story that we didn't know before. tell us about those. >> i mean, it goes down to sort of the small details like the photographer that took the famous picture of lbj getting sworn in. him running off the plane with the film. literally the only proof of this event in his hands. to the fact that johnson was the only one eating, to the fact that jackie had her first scorch. >> who did the president talk to on the phone in the plane? >> all sorts of people. in constant contact on the ground, setting up meetings. it was very important for him,

bipartisan, setting up meetings with the cabinet, members of the senate. >> and in writing about this, too, it was an incredible time for him to show that the country was in firm hands. >> exactly. but there was this two-hour period when this plane was in the air -- >> that nobody knew. >> nobody knew what was going on. two worlds that johnson is the president. >> the conversation between bobby kennedy and lbj, the two of them never seemed to have gotten along that well. i love that part in the article. >> this is one of the subjects of debate. i can't answer this question but johnson does call bobby, after brief condolences asked him about the swearing-in. where's the oath? bobby kennedy is saying, why are you asking me this? the debate is whether johnson was doing it on purpose, whether it was the chaos of the day. >> there was a call to the president's mother. >> there was a call to rose kennedy.

johnson doesn't know what to say. rose clearly wants to get off the phone. there's another phone call where johnson and lady bird called governor conley. >> i remember many stories from jack pawlenty who was in that picture. chris jones, incredible piece. thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. for the first time in its 59-year history, a woman is now the top commander at the u.s. air force academy. lieutenant journal michelle johnson is taking over. jan crawford was with her. >> good morning. it's a career that has taken her all over the globe, and now, she's landed in colorado springs. we went out and visited with her during her second week on the job and she is just a force of nature. i've got to tell you, she's had this remarkable life story. and now facing big challenges, including that growing problem of sexual harassment in the

military. >> carry on! >> lieutenant general michelle johnson has lived a life of being a first. the first woman to join the air force academy, 36 years after she enrolled here to be the first female as a cadet wing commander. >> people say why do you want to do it? the same reason you want to do it. >> did you hear that from fellow cadets? >> everybody. people couldn't imagine that mix. look at this, this is inspiring. >> reporter: johnson always has been a woman who sees no obstacles. growing up on a farm in iowa, she was a state champion in track and star basketball player. but she wondered what was beyond her midwestern horizons. >> used to go in low buildings on a farm. hog house, if you will. my dog and i would climb to the top and i could see the horizon of the earth out there. i thought that's a big world out there.

>> reporter: at the academy, johnson excelled and today remains the college's second leading scorer in basketball. she was a rhodes scholar and embarked on a career that was refueling tankers. and she even reported to two presidents, george w. bush and bill clinton carrying top secret codes. johnson is now responsible for nearly 4,000 cadets, and high-profile cases in the service academies and also against officers, some who led sexual assault prevent programs. when you have officers who have been charged with sexual assault who are responsible for preventing it, i mean, what kind of message does that send? >> it's hurtful. all the leadership in the air

force has said how hurtful that is. it's not right. we can't have it. >> sexual assault say crime. >> reporter: johnson tackled that issue the first time she spoke to the cadets. >> when you cross that line, there's a lifetime of human cost on both parties and that's what we need to be aware of. >> reporter: her words carry weight. meetinging with flight ininstructors and lunch with the cadets, she comes across as engaging and approachable. she's been here and she's been through it. the worst of it. as a cadet in late 1970s, johnson class, the second to include women was 12% female. it wasn't easy. what would you hear most often? what's something that really stands out in you, an experience that you had? >> you know, you shouldn't be here. why have you come? >> reporter: other cadets would tell you that? men? >> yes. there were faculty, too, who just couldn't wrap their brains around it. >> reporter: you've obviously broken a lot of barriers as a woman. you have ever personally

experienced sexual harassment? >> i've had people question me and challenge me, but i wouldn't say in terms physically that way. there have been things along the way, it hasn't been institutionalized. it hasn't been someone who is abusing authority. it's been somebody block headed. i'm not going to say that doesn't happen. >> reporter: johnson considers herself fortunate. that's her attitude across the board. she's also a mother of 10-year-old twin boys. her husband retired from the military to be home with them. now she sees her mission as educating the next generation of military leaders, young men and women. now when you watch johnson in action and you talk to her, you get the sense that she's almost indomestic inable. but she said she faced her biggest challenge after the twins were born. she started having trouble with her vision she went to the doctor and she was diagnosed to her shock with multiple sclerosis. she says her symptoms are

minimal. she is able to manage it and she doesn't mind talking about it. charlie, norah, gayle, i think her approach to m.s. is in many ways reflective of her approach to life. she said you can't quit before you absolutely have to. you have to stay positive, keep the hope, and you just keep going. >> that's what she does very well. great story. thank you, jan crawford. he created one of rock 'n' rolls fi

♪ graham nash, the founding member of crosby, still and nash is out with a new autobiography. it's called "wild tales: rock and roll life." anthony save sat down with him.

>> while it's 50 years, he's definitely not slowing down. >> reporter: from the hollies -- ♪ are you thinking >> reporter: to crosby, still nash and young. ♪ teach your children well ♪ ♪ >> reporter: it's been quite a ride for graham nash. >> i got to the end of the manuscripts and i looked down at the pages and i said, wow, i wish i was him. >> reporter: he grew up a working class kid in manchester, england, where alan clark became obsessed with the everley brothers and decided to form their own bands. the hollies took the british charts by storm in the '60s then followed the beatles to america in the british invasion. ♪ marrakesh express >> reporter: but 1980, nash became frustrated with his

group, he fell in love with joni mitchell and went to laurel canyon where he said cass elliott of the mamas and the papas who introduced her to david crosby, who introduced him to stephen stills. >> it seems there was something in the water? >> i don't think it was in the water. >> reporter: nash was traveling in morocco when he wrote a new song called "marrakesh express." >> you brought that to the hollies? >> yes, i did. >> when i brought it to david and stephen, they were, oh, i know what to do. ♪ >> reporter: crosby, stills and nash first sang another in joni mitchell's house. >> whatever we had as vocals

were born in 40 seconds. >> reporter: crosby came from the birds. stills from buffalo springfield. ♪ we've got to stop, children, what's that sound ♪ >> reporter: their union created one of rock's first supergroups and they're debut album was an immediate sensation. but to tour, they needed another member. their label recommended neil young. >> your reaction to that? >> i didn't see the need, because we'd already kind of perfected this three-prong beautiful sound, so why did we need to screw with that? ♪ getting to the point >> reporter: nash relented and the group would only play its second live gig at woodstock in 1969. ♪ sometimes is hurts so badly i must cry out loud ♪ >> reporter: but csny now had

too many eag too manile egos. you write it's like in a vacuum >> it's like four bottles of nitroglycerin, while you're walking everything is fine until you drop one. >> and you walked out two days in a row [ bleep ] you -- >> it was the ego and fame and the power and the money, it started to spiral downward. >> reporter: in the middle of it all, joni mitchell broke up with nash in a telegram. >> western union. >> what did it say? >> if you hold sand tightly in your fist, it will run through your fingers, love, jon. >> and you knew? >> it was over. it was a devastating time for me, like i said -- so? ♪

>> reporter: crosby, stills, nash and young fractured but never officially broke up. ♪ >> reporter: nash says the band is like a mother ship that in between other projects, they all come back to. ♪ ♪ she helps me with my suitcase ♪ >> reporter: now 71, nash is on a solo tour. a rock 'n' roll survivor who's made it through in part he says because of his native temperament. >> that sense of being english of it's going to be all right, it will be all right tomorrow. >> i imagine that attitude was pretty valuable in the middle of some of the troubles you went through with csn? >> absolutely. i always kept my eye on the music because that's all that's going to last. ♪ before i go to whom it may

concern ♪ >> nash has been inducted into the rock 'n' roll hall of fame, not once, but two times for crosby, stills and nash in 1997 and for the hollies in 2010. >> man, you do this so well. >> it's so much fun. >> exactly what i was thinking. >> the best part is watch oeg >> watching this woman watch the story. >> gayle knows every song. >> i love the songs, the music, but i didn't know the back story. >> that's what you get. >> we'll be right so what can i get you?

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