tv Face the Nation CBS August 10, 2014 10:30am-11:29am EDT
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>> schieffer: today on "face the nation"a world in turmoil and america returns to iraq. as the isis terrorist forces step up their attacks the president orders american war planes back in to the skies over iraq and says the fight won't be won overnight. >> i don't think we're going to solve this problem in weeks. this is going to be a long-term project. >> schieffer: latest from the region and talk to rhode island senator jock reed key member of the armed services committee. plus the latest as well on the situation in isreal and as the death toll nears a thousand, we'll talk to a top official of the world health organization about the ebola outbreak. plus, a bizarre incident at a
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new york speedway where a driver is struck and killed by race car driver tony stuart. finally on the 40th anniversary weekend of richard nixon's res ignition bob woodward and carl bernstein look back. and we'll tell you what it was like in the oval office before nixon made that famous resignation speech. >> cbs news is -- only the crew. there will nobody picture. >> schieffer: 60 years of news because this is "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs good morning again, the news from overnight is as grimace it has been for the last week. iraqi official told router news agency that the isis terrorist had killed 500 members of the yazidis, thousands are still
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trapped on that mountain top in northern iraq. more food and supplies were dropped over the area last night by u.s. transport planes, u.s. airstrikes continue, the president is on martha's vineyard this morning but as he left washington he told reporters the airstrikes may go on for awhile. what he said the u.s. does not intend to order ground forces back in to the area. >> i've been very clear that we're not going to have u.s. combat troops in iraq again. and we are going to maintain that because we should have learned a lesson from our long and immensely costly incursion in iraq. >> schieffer: more from holly williams who is in urbil. >> there were four more u.s. airstrikes here last night targeting the armored vehicles and trucks used by isis militants and some of those militants are just 30 miles away
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from where we are here in the city of urbil. kurdish soldiers from the area are the only ones still fighting isis on the ground here in northern iraq. after iraqi government soldiers abandoned their posts and ran away in june. the american airstrikes will help those kurdish fighters in their battle against the militants. now isis captured a group extending the borders of what it claims is its own islamic state. then last week the militants struck again seizing 16 more towns, military base and iraq's biggest damn. >> schieffer: could the kurdish forces on their own defeat isis if they decide to move on urbil? >> the car dish fighters tell us that they're confident they can defend which is their capital. they say if they are going to push isis out of iraq then they need the u.s. to give them weapons, because they say they're relying on outdated
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guns, where as the militants have american tanks and artillery that they captured from iraqi government soldiers when they ran away two months ago. >> schieffer: will these airstrikes be enough to actually defeat isis? >> well the very limited strikes that we're seeing so far won't be enough. but the hope is that they will give kurdish fighters who everyone is relying on here just a little bit of breathing room. >> schieffer: all holly williams, be very careful holly, thanks so much. the other story that won't go away the situation in israel why the fighting is now in its 34th day. we have two reports from there first, charlie doing da in tel aviv. >> good morning bob. once again israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu reiterated that israel will not negotiate under fire. they have no intention of sending israeli delegation back to cairo for any kind of peacetalks. further today saying no stage
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did israel declare military offensive was over. he said it was going to take time and patience. now we haven't turned to the kind of intensity of more than a week ago but the israeli defense forces say that hamas fired something like 110 rockets from gaza in to israel mostly short range rockets and mortars that are hitting the border towns none of the long range missiles capable of hitting tel aviv. they say that hamas broke the crease fire before it ran out on friday in return, israeli military has launched something like 150 airstrikes at suspected hamas targets inside gaza. israel has no intention of even addressing the demands of hamas until these rockets stop and until that happens they have no intention of stopping these airstrikes. >> schieffer: charlie be safe thank you. cbs news foreign correspondent clarissa ward joins us from gaza city what is the latest down
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there? >> good morning bob. since that cease fire we have heard steady stream of rockets being fired by hamas from gaza in to israel. us reas has been returning fire with airstrikes, with artillery, 16 palestinians have been killed so far. now obviously this bombardment is nothing like on the level that we've heard over the past few weeks. still has an affect. daily life here has ground to a halt. people are staying in their homes, the streets are empty there's no sense of that going to change with those diplomatic talks in cairo and stand still with hamas vowing to ratchet up their attacks. >> schieffer: what can hamas possibly hope to achieve here? >> well bob, at this stage politically hamas cannot 'nord to walk away from latest conflict without extracting some concession from the israeli side. the people here have paid such an enormous price over the past few weeks. what is interesting is that is widespread
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support here for continuing the war even among people who don't necessarily like hamas. that's really because of one major issue, the blockade on gaza which has been in place since 2007 most people here saying they will do whatever it takes even continue this war if it means that they can somehow get that blockade lifted. >> schieffer: all right clarissa ward, thank you so much. and we turn now to one of the top democrats on the armed services committee, rhode island senator jack reed he is in providence this morning. let's talk first about what's going on in iraq, senator reed. the pentagon says that these airstrikes so far they have had some affect destroyed some things. what are you being told about whether these strikes are being successful. what do you think has been accomplished so far? >> well what is accomplished we've been able to destroy some
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heavy artillery that isis has that threatening kurdish forces. construct lines of communication, some of the convoice. basic strategy is targeted strikes on these weapon systems so that the kurdish forces can strengthen and resist, ultimately roll back isis. and i think these targeted strikes are very effective. the kurds are very aggressive with this support i think they will be able to stabilize the situation. >> schieffer: and we want to apologize to our viewers there is a sound delay between the time my voice gets to senator reed and gets back here to washington. but senator let me ask you this, a senior administration official told the "new york times" today that this is a quote, this is not an authorization of a broad-based counter terrorism campaign. why would the administration say that? why did they mean that?
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what do they mean by that? >> there are two dimensions at work here. first is protecting american interests in the region. we have personnel incurred stan. we have to protect them and not only our personnel also have to protect any type of operations that might go outside of the region in to the united states or any place across the globe. that is why we will target some of these terrorists wherever they are in yemen iraq. second dimension is political. that is making sur that the iraqi government reorganizes itself so it can successfully use all the resources that it has, has significant resources to stabilize the situation then begin with iraqi forces to push back on isis. what happened unfortunately is prime minister malaki has politicized the military and militarized the politics, that
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has to be resourced. while the iraqis are trying to put their house in order and resume the fight we can provide some limited support to deter particular incurred stan, isis but this has to be a political strategy that takes place in baghdad not in washington. >> schieffer: i want to show you a clip as something the president said, when he was asked if he had any sect thoughts about pulling u.s. troops out of iraq, here is part of what his response was. >> what i just find interesting is, the degree to which this issue keeps oncoming up as if this was my decision. >> schieffer: those words were hardly out of the president's mouth when we started getting calls from republicans who said, hey, wait a minute back in 2011 president
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obama was taking credit for pulling those troops out of iraq and was saying that he was fulfilling his campaign promise. do you see any connection, senator, between the pulling out of the american troops there and what has happened in iraq since then? >> well, first thing i think you have to recognize that the invasion of iraq back in 2003 was i think a strategic hill calculation. at the time i opposed it because i didn't think in the long run it would contribute to long term security but it would have long term detrimental consequences. we're living with those conconcerns today. in 2008 it was president george w. bush and prime minister malaki who agreed all american forces would leave iraq in 2011. some people have said well president obama could have negotiated around that in intervening years once president bush and president mall key cleared all forces
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would be out it was very difficult the president obama tried to have remaining force there training, equipping along the lines of what was proposed in afghanistan. in 2008 our troops were leaving in 2011. have they contributed to the situation here, i think what's contributed significantly to the situation has not been our presence or lack of presence it's been the politics of malaki so his alienation of the sunni community, his ideas ever military collapse of mozul not result of lack of equipment or personnel it was leadership collapse. so in to put the situation right we have to begin at the fundamental core which is leadership in baghdad iraqi leadership which will work together in unified way to defend and protect their country and to defeat isis. >> schieffer: senator, thank now the death toll is what above 900?
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>> yeah. it would mean that it's about 900, a little bit above. >> schieffer: a little bit above. is this expect the death toll to go higher or do you think we're at a peak here or where are we on this? >> bob i think that we anticipate that there will continue to be cases and if we continue to have cases then we will continue to have people dying from this disease. this is a severe infection. we expect both numbers to increase over the coming weeks. >> schieffer: would you call this at this point an epidemic? >> it's certainly a large outbreak affecting that region. typically when outbreaks get big enough we call them epidemics. i think that the way we think about it is that this is something which is risen can be stopped. among the people working on it we frequently call it an stuart's racing team calls it a tragic accident. but there are questions.
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>> schieffer: a lot more on th anniversary of richard nixon's resignation coming up with none other than "washington post" reporters bob woodward and carl bernstein stay with us. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety systems & technology. shipping and manufacturing. across the united states bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. when we set up operation in one part of the country people in other parts go to work. that's not a coincidence. it's one more part of our commitment to america. he was in the oval office that night as the camera technician. george, you must have sensed
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this was going to be a day like no other. >> the president has always come win handlers and other people to secure his position and to make sure he's okay before his presentation. this i remember the president nixon come in alone very quiet, very still time. >> schieffer: surprisingly the president was joking around before the speech. >> are the lights okay? that's enough. my friend does take a lot of pictures. catch me picking my nose. >> schieffer: and then unexpected request. >> he asked everyone to leave the room who did not need to be there. and when herters, of course we're talking about none other than bob woodward and carl bernstein whose books "the final days" and
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all the presidents men" are being reissued by simon and shyster part of the cbs corporation. the two were played by robert redford and dustin hoffman in the film adaptation of the classifying all the presidents men." and disclosure here, red ford and dustin hoffman were not available so we have woodward and bernstein. two of my oldest friends here in washington gentlemen, thank you so much. you know i got to say i think a lot people in washington felt this way. one reason it took awhile fort that this was really serious it seems so stupid. the president was ahead breaking in to the watergate. whoever broke in to a campaign headquarters that's where they keep the yard signs and stuff. there are no secrets there but yet they did. when did the two beginning of the presidency to the end of the presidency and this vern gangs and this hatred which he
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talks about in his -- >> where he was sweating, his wife, two daughters two son in laws and there's a moment right at the end where he kind of waves his hand as if he's going to say i called you here for a reason. that reason is i have an understanding, i know what this was all about. then in one of the most fabulous lines of the american presidency he says, always remember. others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them and then you destroy yourself. this was the piston of the nixon administration. where did it come from. >> schieffer: a friend of mine said to me the other day you know he ran against john key many lies. >> schieffer: do you think this could happen again? could another president get himself involved in something
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like this? i guess part of the question i ask, what advise would you give to people who find themselves behind those iron gates where only the people you see are the ones you want to see. what can they do to immunize themselves -- >> we're not good at -- it was seven years ago i went over to do what turned out to be the last interview with bob mcnamara who was secretary of defense for kennedy and johnson. mr. vietnam. and who apologized for vietnam. it was three hours, he had an apartment in the watergate kept pressing mcthat mayor remarks squeezed out what's the final lesson of the mistake of vietnam. and he sai turning point finally support those kurdish, means those who face death. they have enough supplies.
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>> schieffer: that brings up an interesting point. you goat -- we did throughout the iraq war that the kurds were really good, they were good fighters all of that. a man who was a senior commander in that region said yes but pretty much like light infancy. he says frankly they could not turn back these isis forces if they decided to mount a campaign to take urbil. they are going to need a lot of help it seems to me. >> disaster here islamic state has american armor and weapon re millions of dollars that was given up when iraqi -- iraqi army. do they have the expertise? >> appear to. what is astonishing they're able to maneuver, use this weaponry they can move a thousand guys very quickly and that they
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