from washington, the mclaughlin group, the american original. for overidle decades, the sharpest minds, best sources. here is your one, rating hilary. >> i think hilary is one of the finest secretary of states we have had. it has been a great collaboration over the last four years. i am going to miss here. i wish she was sticking around. but he has logged in so many miles that i can not begrudge her one. but i want the country to appreciate what a great roll show has played during the

course of my administration and a lot of the successes we have had have been a part of her hard work. >> in january of 2013 when president obama and hillary clinton shared that interview, president obama's approval rating was 49%. his handling of foreign affairs was a pillar of his presidency. and now fast forward this this summer, ' sis is running over. president obama's foreign policy approval rating was routed by that, dropping to 36%, with 58% disapproval of president obama ice foreign policy. hiss former secretary of state appears to have joined the critics. >> because ofay sis, on obama. >> family history fueled to

train syria's rebels, pro- clinton. the failure to help build up a critical fighting new orleans of the people, there was islamist, there was everything in the middle. a e failure to do that left big cuum. and in that same interview, he rejected a trade mark materia, do not do stupid stuff. why does she knock that saying from obama? quote, patients need organizing police pals and do not do stupid stuff is not on organizing principle. >> and why is hillary clinton no longer 'er to share the limelight with president obama as she did? it is a matter of principle? >> i think it is belief on her

part. he is at 36% in foreign policy. hilary said ha that he failed to support the--said that he failed to support the democrats in syria and other wise, ' sis may not have--' sis may not have taken over. and she is taking her claim for the conservative democrat in the coming race, i think she is making a bad mistake, because in the democratic party, the george [ inaudible ] come home perk, no more wars, focus on our own country, that thought, that is really almost dominate inside the democratic party and she is inviting opposition in the primaries. >> well, i think it is the same thought line that came out in the '08 primary. she has always been more of an

intervention it and you know, don't do stupid stuff, david said that not do stupid stuff like inviding iraq and hillary clinton supported that. but she has to sup rate herself from the president. i think he understands that but it is a little early for a general election campaign. i think she is misreading the polls. obama's numbers may not be great overall but the democrats still love him and she is really picked a fight her that she does not need this early in the game and she has not done it well, which is a bigger problem, as we gear up to watch her run. >> well stated. tom. >> well, it is clear that hillary clinton is running for president in 2016. i know people do not want to say it, yet. but it is obvious in the way she is making the statements

and entertaining a series of difficulties, not just on this but if you look at her book as well, the counter-sight is that she is criticizing drones to a degree so she is trying to are is the elements getting behind her and she is trying to get away from the president because of --awaits is happening in iraq and ukraine and elsewhere at the moment. >> was it a slip of the tongue in. >> no, i think it was a move to get away from the president. hillary clinton has been around for a long time. she knew what she was saying. >> how about her phone calls? to hug it out. hug it out with obama? what happened by the way. >> i was at a dinner by the way with her and she said more or less the same thing then. this is what she believes, 245 you loco through the record,- -you look through the records,

she had a much more robust and stronger line in terms of american foreign policy and the use of american forces to back up that policy. that is where she comes from. this is not just a political issue for her. i think it really degrades her real commitment to this and she was just outspoken. >> and hug it out, that tells mr. that hilary--tells me and i think she, on second thought, thought he had moved to early and too far to accept arate herself--to separate herself from obama. >> i think that is true. both the president and mrs. clinton need each other a little bit going forward. but i would agree, i think hillary clinton's issue is that she should have spoken up and

with the syria situation, she probably should've left the administration then. >> maybe, but she didn't want to go public with it when she was the secretary of state and i respect that, too. okay, changing gears for a minute. you just returned from a visit to israel and gaza. can you tell us what you went with and --awaits you saw? >> well, with others, i went with the governor of new york. and several other public officials. but we saw the tunnels that the radicals have built coming from gaza into israel and i tell you, it was like being in an empty version of the new yorkty subway system. i mean, there was a huge, open room, by the way, it had power and phone lines from it and teen they had a three and a half mile, literally tunnel. there was 25 feet of height in this thing and it was supported with con treat and it was a

huge effort. and there are another 33 tunnels like this. i don't know how they did it without any mayor equipment and stay just over the years dug it out. it is clearly going to be a platform for whatever attacks they anticipated. but to see it is just staggering. because you cannot imagine that people can build this without the heavy equipment. >> and now does this create a big problem in the heart of, just enabling the i tunnels? >> yes, it is going to be a major problem. maybe they don't know if they have all of the tunnels. there is another 33 of them. some of them go three, four, five miles because they go further into israel with the idea they would come out and attack. >> what is going to happen? >> i don't know what is going to happen. the israelis, they all see this now and know how serious this

is. and they are going put more pressure on the rad dallas mavericks. >> did you tour the devastation in gaza? >> i did. and there was, but the devastation, if i may describe it, was attempted on the, created on the part of the israelis, the missiles flying up, they were going after the missile targets and the launchers, it was not just bombs. >> but there is still a lot of devastation. >> there is always devastation and this is something that the radicals there were willing to absorb. but israel cannot sit there and not respond. >> [ inaudible ] >> i am just asking. >> it is a question. is hillary's foreign policy beat down, and is president obama positive that she is running for president? 2016? yes or no. >> it is consistent with the candidate for the president of the united states. >> it is another marker on the

way to the campaign trail. >> tom. >> yes, i think she is, she is running. you know, everything, the book, trying to play the different sides. but i think one interesting things just going back to per- -interesting thing, just going back, one thing she calls great, is the russian restack. and i find that staggering and it is an interesting contrast to syria. >> well, i think she is running. uld bemazed if she does not run. the book sale, i think are below expectations. >> and that is the reason why she is doing some of th >> no, i don't think it has anything to do with it. that is the last issue on her agenda. yes, but beyond that, she is a very serious person and confident and she is highly principled, from everything i have seen her do or say and act on. >> and there is no daylight

between her and israel. >> well, i think the book is a big thing. i managed to read part parts of it--read parts of it and it is good. >> yours is the of course good review. >> is that is not true. >> others say it is blah. >> well, that is because they are looking for it. she is very good an analyzing situations. >> yes, she is very popular with ex-military people. and that is true. >> yes, and i tell you, i would have din we are her, all foreign ministers, she was, three of them were from the arab world. she was the star of the night. she was analytical. >> she got it wrong, and she admits that she got it wrong, and then she said i supported the surge for political reasons. that is the statesman. >> i am not going debate this

with you. i have known politicians whoa made mistake. >> why don't you debate with him? >> well, there is nothing to debate. well, when we come back, do we engage in another war in iraq?

another war in iraq? >> for the past few days

american forces have conducted air strikes in iraq to protect american people there. forces on the ground are defending their city and we have stepped up mill tired a rice and assistance to iraqi and curdish forces. >> by supplying the forces with new weapons and sending 130 military advisors to sist them, president obama has expanded the military involvement in iraq and on wednesday, an u.s. military team landed on the mountain where thousands of the group are trapped by isis. last saturday, however, the president said that america would not become in another iraq war. >> as commander and chief, i allow the united states to be dragged into fighting another war in iraq.

american combat troops will not be returning to the fight in iraq because there is no american military solution to the crisis there. >> but on thursday, the president said for americans to expect further military action in the weeks ahead. >> whether we can carry out missions like the one we did on the mountain without committing combat troops on the ground, we obviously feel a great urge to provide some humanitarian relief to the situate. >> yes, is the president engaging in mission creep? should we be supporting the curds as we are currently doing in is america being sucked into another war in iraq? >> no. this is when the nature of the objective changes and when you really do pour in a lot of added resources. i think it is very clear that he is doing everything he can to re-stain our involvement. i think as a country, we can be proud that the humanitarian

intervention as helped and the military strikes have helpenned and there is another bit of good news this week and that is that the prime minister has stepped down and there is new prime minister in iraq who now has 30 days to form a government. so maybe they are better for the fight. and also, the fact that the britts and the french are coming in, the britts are going supply arms to the curds. i mean, i think they are the best fighters over there and i am not going to say things are in hand. but it is a bad situation. but there is more good nudes. >> --good news. >> here is is the problem, u.s. air power can keep them out of baghdad but the are no ground forces now who can take back northern syria so you are going to have an islamic state there, tabesserring and growing, anales--festering and growing unless you get some ground

troops from season and they need to come from the turks, the syriaens, and the curds together, but that would take a diplomat to pup that crowd together. >> okay, who is supporting the u.s. and its mission to iraq? >> answer, our key allies. but with important qualifiers. >> i want to thank in particular the united kingdom, france, and other countries for working with us to provide much needed assistance to the iraqi people. >> but while only france is now providing arms to the curds, other american key allyings including britain and canada are supplying only humanitarian aid. but the british prime minister is considering equipping the curds to fight and they are saying that britain and the assented to join in air strikes against isis. but for now, the strikes are

being left solely to american troops. >> and is this true, have we once again doned the uniform of the world's solitary policeman? if so, how can we get the allies to better support us? >> i think it is true. the reality is that american air crews are the only ones putting themselves in harms way, flying the direct strike missions against them. and the fact is that the your pians, they are--you are pians do not want to do more than--you european. >> and what is the strategy in that? >> to get the europeans involved, we have to look at

smoke stake. >> and the state is festering there. somebody has to go in and clean that out. i mean, the americans are not going to do it with the ground troops. >> and here is the thing, with the province, one of the hopeful things over the longer term is the belief in islam, it is verses [ inaudible ] islam. and they are much more fanatical than the people. so what is going to happen is like iraq, they are going the lose their support on the ground because they cannot stop themselves. >> hold on, okay, the iraq tole, december 2011. >> u.s. soldiers killed, 4425. u.s. soldiers wounded in action, 31,947. u.s. soldiers with serious brain or spinal injuries, 20%.

u.s. soldiers with serious mental health problems, 30%. war costs, $806 billion. money lost on unaccounted for, $9 billion. u.s. veteran care, $894 billion. iraqis killed military civilians, 134,000. >> why did i read the numbers? well, you want to----numbers? >> well, you want to show that it is not going to be cheap. and that is right. but the other issue is that, it is what i call the lesser of two evils, so okay, what happens if iraq is a radical state opposing all of our allies that is in the heart of the entire inner yes world of that part of the world, which is critical to the western economy. we just cannot sit back and let that happen. it is in the making. how like city that what?

>> --how lick i will is what? --how likely is what? >> if we are not involved, you are going to have a radical community up there that is going to expand. and everyone is going to rose lose--going to lose hope. >> and this is why i think in the short term, it forces them to become political, it forces them into a corner. >> it is a direct fight. we are now helping them. the [ inaudible ] is helping them. >> that again. >> it is iraq's fight. they have is a new government. this is a chance for--there is a chance for them to get it together. the europeans are going to supply them some weapons. the u.s. is not going back into iraq. >> okay, thank you. >> the [ inaudible ] are not going defend anything else.

and a direct threat to national interest, 0-10, how much of a threat does the state pose to american interests, 0- 10? >> the terrorist threat, i would say it is now three, and with that, it takes it up to a six. >> five. >> do you want to go in? --to go? >> i think it is and eight. >> i think it is and eight because of the regional dynamics. and they are going to hand 234 support of other groups imlar to isis. and--similar to isis and most of the united state whose have learned from snowden, facts, they are off the grid, they are going back home, they will smile at their neighbors and then services will fear they are going to come to the united

states. >> [ inaudible ] >> i am talking about [ inaudible ] >> but more than just [ inaudible ] >> that you want to do. >> relationship building instead of just bombing. >> protecting american interests. we will be right back with predictions.

the ferguson, missouri crisis gets largest this week. >> ferguson, missouri calming down with the release of the police office committed the crime, justice will prevail. >> tom. >> expect changes in the ferguson, in terms of federal government transfers of military equipment to local and state police forces. >> person policy will become a major issue in the presidential election. >> president obama liberal true belivers will be so needled by hillary's jabs that they are going if redouble their efforts to persuade people to run against hillary in 2016. bye bye.

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