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for over three decades. the sharpest mind, best sources, hardest talk. issue one. immigration showdown. >> so we're going to offer the following deal. if you've been in america for more than five years, if you have children who are american citizens or legal residents, if you register, pass a criminal background check, and you're willing to pay your fair share of taxes, you'll be able to apply to stay in the country temporarily without fear of deportation. you can come out of the shadows and get right with the law. >> president obama then reminded the american people about the origins of our
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nation. >> my fellow americans, we are and always will be a nation of elegants. we were strangers once too. and whether our fore bearers were strangers who crossed the atlantic, or the pacific, or the rio grande, we are here only because this country welcomed them in and taught them that to be an american is something about morn what we look like or what our last names are or how we worship. what makes us americans is our shared commitment to an idea. that all of us are created equal. and all of us had the chance to make of our lives what we will. >> question is the president right? is this executive action more than idealism in action? pat buchanan. >> we are also a nation of laws, president obama has said
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clearly he does not have the authority. he is behaving as a rogue president john. politically it may be a very clever move. he's sticking it into the republicans' peace after their victory. now you pass your bill. but the problem is, i think he is really poisoned the well with republicans for the next two years. maybe he felt there was no other alternative. that was going to happen anyway. but i think john, this is going to be no doubt about it, a along with obamacare, one of the signal achievements of the obama administration and i think it's going to backfire on him politically and i think it's going to backfire on the democratic party. >> eleanor? >> i think it's a huge step that this president has taken. not only for the some four million people whose lives will be directly affected and living mortgage us take -- among us taking care of our children. doing all kinds of work. i think it's an appropriate policy step. i think he's on strong legal ground. he's cited a number of
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precedents that republican and democratic presidents have taken. the only difference with this is it's a larger group of people and tim grant population has grown. and the republicans have an easy answer to this. jaspises their own -- pass their own bill. the congress isn't working. the republicans made sure of that when they took over the house in 2010 and now they're paying the price for that. power is going tomo to the executive and the courts if the congress can't get it back together. i think the president is right to take action and not let the huge problems continue to fester. >> tom? >> i mean the issue here is that this is -- you know the full circle from the president to the presidential candidate of 2008 about changing the tone of washington. it's executive overreach to a huge degree. whether the president's policy is right, it's not right in procedure. and i think it's a great disservice not just to the executive branch and the presidency and this president himself, but also actually to
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the notion of american law. i mean you have to remember that this is a harvard law graduate who has done this in such a disdainful way and it has poi poisoned the well and that's a deep shame because i think there was opportunity. the boehner and mcconnell were talking about area of opportunity going forward and now i don't see it happening. >> martin? >> well, i mean, i have seen -- came here as an immigrant myself coming from a different country and i was fortunate to be able to get into this country. and stayed here ever understand obviously. i think that it's a great opportunity for people to do that. but the way i did it of course was a legal way. and i think this is going to have to be taken into account. there will be, i system, some -- suspect, some legitimate legal for support what he's doing but politically i think it's a huge huge mistake because he has now poisoned the well of his relationship with the congress for the rest of his presidency.
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and that it seems to me, there's going to be repercussions and very very difficult issues that come up in this country that will be not be able to reinvolve because of the hostility that will come out of this. >> excuse me, the well was already poisoned. i mean the republicans made a decision early on to oppose virtually everything this president did. now, if they disagree with him on that, they say oh we might not confirm an attorney general and we're not going to confirm any of your appointments and not going to do anything on your other issues. that's like a third grader's response. you think the country is going to retoward? i hope not -- reward that? i hopeot. they will only argue with him on procedure and they won't argue with him on the substance of what he has done because what he has done is correct. >> if you can't get it true -- >> stand up in the court. >> if you cold front get it through the -- can't get it through the congress of the united states, you cannot do it unilaterally. he said so himself. he told them for years i can't do this fellows. i would like to do it but i
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can't. it's unconstitutional. >> he didn't -- >> it's a constitutional lawyer. >> he didn't include the parents of dreamers. he concluded that went over the legal line. they have careful legal backing for this and there has been no successful legal action taken against the extension of the legality to the so-called dreamers. >> the president? >> we don't have a rogue president. we have a rogue congress if anything. >> what about the object though -- he's alone, he answers the door. he walks down a hallway and he takes a position another the rostrum -- at the rostrum. really quite dramatic. >> he said look you guys can get around this, you can pass a bill. in other words, i'm going to do it but a if you pass a bill, then you can get it done yourselves. he doesn't have the authority to do that. >> do you remember a movie called "high noon"? >> yeah. gary cooper. >> he went into a city. and his life was in danger. >> he had to -- badge on. he was a sheriff and nobody backed him up except for grace
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kelly. >> he walked down the middle of the night. >> all right. >> and he waited for somebody to take a shot. >> frank miller. >> frank miller. do you think there were over tones of that -- >> i don't know. somehow or other, i didn't think about that. >> i'm missing something john. i got to tell you something. >> reminded me of gary cooper, don't you understand? >> no, i don't understand. >> he was out there by himself. >> gary cooper didn't come to mind. i have to say. >> he had the guns here? >> oh yes listen. >> he was ready to move? >> the president would have -- >> he would have been shot down except grace kelly shot the guy in the back. >> the republicans -- [ laughter ] >> it's a group fest. okay republican response. >> in response to president obama's executive action on immigration reform, including granting legal status to millions of illegal immigrants, republicans are gearing up for a fight. one proposal that's gathering steam is to prevent president
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obama from funding the documentation prerequisites of his amnesty namely preventing funding for formal ids and social security numbers that would allow illegal immigrants to find work and receive benefits under federal and state laws. republican senator elect cotten explains. >> we have fully funded our military spending bills the last six years and put restrictions on what the president can do in terms of transferring terrorists from guantanamo bay to the united states. there's no reason that we can't fund all of the immigration agencies and law enforcement agencies yet not let the president use taxpayer dollars to give social security numbers and work permits and photoids to illegal immigrants. >> question, how will republicans respond to president obama's executive action? eleanor clift? >> they'll probably try to piggyback this on as well with obamacare. but that is going to be a major talking point in the republican primaries and there will be a show of hand. will everyone take the vow to
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overturn the president's executive order and maybe there's going to be one or two who won't take that vow. and if jeb bush is in that lineup maybe that will make him stand out. and he'll give us a different republican party. but this is going to define the republican party. going ahead for good or if will -- for will. >> it's going to fracture the republican party at least in the short-term. ted cruz already coming out very strongly and using it for '16. you know but again my real issue is that it has burnt the bridges with boehner and mcconnl. but they did exist. they did exist after the midterms because there was a clear rhetoric change and that was under a lot of pressure from tea party activists and now the president essentially told them get lost. i'm not interested. this is it. i'm done. i'm the executive president. good-bye congress. and that is the legacy now. >> do you remember my question? >> more or less okay? but -- >> work for the less and see how far you get. >> i think the residue of this
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is very negative for the country. i really do. it's going to become extremely difficult to address a lot of issues in the country as a result of the breakdown in whatever constructive relationship would have existed between the president and the congress. that's not what the president ought to be doing. >> you're exactly right. i think what you're getting is a breakdown if democracy here between the two branches here. they're going to be at war on everything except for what's essential. a blast from the past. in april seven months ago, republican house speaker john boehner mocked his own republican colleagues for resisting immigration reform. here's speaker barrener. >> most of my colleagues for doing this and not real good. this guy is back here with a camera. but here's the attitude. oh! don't make me do this! oh! this is too hard. >> question, speaker boehner rit?quote unquote too
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hard for republicans in the house to pass immigration reform. tom rogan? >> it isn't too hard but what the president has done here is make it a lot harder. that's the whole problem. there were areas -- senator rubio going out on a limb. there are republicans who have been willing to buck the trend. i would agree with eleanor that the republican party is to a degree -- >> took back the limb. he backed away from it. >> but boehner and mcconnell were saying -- >> let her finish. >> boehner promised the president for a year that he was going to take it up and finally he went to the president and said i can't do it. which is when the president said if you can't do it. then i'm going to do this. first he said end of summer then by the end of the year, this is a campaign promise the president cannot walk away from. >> john, there's war inside the republican party over this. the corporate republicans, the chamber of commerce, the business round table, those guys. they would like to get it off the table. they don't have any problem with it. it's the base of the party and it's also the base of middle america. sees la losing the country
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because they've gotten the invasion unchecked across the border and the commander-in- chief won't do anything about it. >> that's how you define middle america? looking a lot different over the coming years. >> all right. >> as a matter of fact nobody is coming across the border anyway. we don't have a good economy. people overstay their visas. is this immigration executive action within the president's proper authority? >> or does it exceed the president's proper authority? pat buchanan. >> it's impeachable act and they shouldn't impeach him. >> congress can decide who's eligible for citizenship. the executive has broad authority according to the supreme court to deport people and th's the president is using his prosecutorial authority. >> and the president is supposed to be a president. sorry. this is unmitigated insult to american constitutional law and it is. >> morety? >> i agree, it's a fundamental
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two palestinians murdered. four rabbis, and an israeli police officer at a west jerusalem synagogue. three of the rabbis had dual u.s. citizenship. they were then shot dead by israeli security forces, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu condemned the attack. [ speaking foreign language ] >> and good-bye israel's revival of the practice of destroying the homes of families related to palestinian assailants. palestinian president mahmoud abbas denounced the attacks at the synagogue and the razeeing of the homes. [ speaking foreign language ]
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>> palestinians are furious that ongoing efforts by elements of the israeli religious right to gain prayer rights on jerusalem's temple mount. home to the third holiest site in islam. the mosques. at president only muslims are allowed to pray at the site. despite this, mr. netanyahu says the status quo won't change. palestinians are using the controversy to justify attacks. in jerusalem they're suffering. in october two separate incidents. palestinian drivers rammed pedestrians in central jerusalem killing a total of four people including 3-month- old baby. question, has the violence in jerusalem crossed a new threshold, mort suckerman. >> absolutely outrageous and horrible attack on the people in prayer. a number of rabbis were killed as well and this was just an
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absolute massacre of innocent people. and that has so dramatically escalated the tension between the arab communities and the jewish communities there. that we're going to see a lot of fallout from this over a long period of time. >> the attacks are targeting the religion and not just the israeli state. is that true? >> no. that's not. unless certainly -- the israeli state which was founded as a practical matter provide a home for the jews after what happened to them. but israeli state is israeli state. he brew is their regular language. the majority of the population are jewish without question. there's a group in there who are orthodox. and a number of them were killed. it just mercilesslessly in the midst of a religious ceremony. >> you have the war in gaza and mutual atrocities, now the horrific thing that happened in
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that synagogue has added a religious aspect of fanaticism to the political and the historic battle and what it says to me is quite frankly that i think you got to be almost near despair as to whether you're ever going to get an agreement in any approachable future between the israelis and the palestinians for an independent state. especially after gaza where some of those rockets went right near bangor january airport and they shut it down. i don't see any israeli leader from me yahoo right -- netanyahu right to lieberman who are ever going to give up the west bank. >> any connection against jews with terrorism? >> the political theology of sunni groups -- hamas for example and isis share a hatred of jews and people they believe as you know, apostate against the fates. there's a more nationalist vein
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to palestinian islamism. but this attack reflects the fact that as much as there is a profound political disagreement between different groups, there is also a profound hatred for the very essence of judaism unfortunately in palestinian terror groups. the murder of the rabbis at the mosque is the greatest symbol of that and it affects the political environment beyond. >> earlier this year four people were killed in brases els at the jewish -- in brases els at the -- in brases els has the jewish museum. does that bind things together and -- >> there is -- >> i mean it's terrifying in europe. the rise of islam. but also the rise of just general antiimmigrant hatred. and you have that combined with the populous backlash against the constriction in the economy. and i think you know jews probably feel like they're being singed out but i think
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muslims feel like they're being singled out. >> let's develop -- >> i'm going to interrupt here. the jews do not feel they're being singled out except by muslims. the muslims are not being singled out by the jew okay? it's the muslims who are attacking the jews in most of the capitals of europe. >> second generation but the muslims population in france it's something like five to six million. ten times as large as the jewish population and second generation muslims are some of the folks that are going out and going over to syria and fighting. it's becoming very radicalized. it's a very big problem. >> isn't just jews in israel. who are under attack. >> today anti-semitism on the rise across much of europe. in belgium, jews are warned not to wear their religious adornments in public. in france, jewish stores and synagogues are regularly attacked by young muslims.
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in germany, neonazi groups recently issued a formal request for the number of jews living in the city while the request was disregarded, it speaks to a trend. even in britain, jews are worried. >> but why is what you see in a demonstration, why does that affect the way you feel about how safe you are? >> because they're -- things to the joys and hitler was right. and things which i don't see what that has got to do with israel's policy in gaza. and that's scary as a jew living in the 21st century in modern britain. to be encountering that kind of blatant fragrant anti-semitism frankly. >> sweden recognized state hood. would other european countries follow suit and do you understand why sweden did it. >> there's a much more sympathetic viewpoint in the european middle class to
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palestinian side and the israel palestinian conflict. but going back to the anti- semitism issue, it's a real concern and i think it's actually not recognized as such. the hatred for jews beyond any construction of israel -- >> but this is not 1938. you have the french and german leaders all speaking out about this. but you have fringe parties on the left and right that are embracing some virulent attitudes right? >> you don't have to be anti- semitic to support a palestinian state. i don't think that surprised anti-semitism. in you see happening inthe places? instances in europe is -- and instances in europe is anti- semitickic. >> the european jewish congress has a president and his name is moshe cantor. he is quoted quote -- never at any time since the end of world war ii has anti-semitism so
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manifested itself on the continent of europe. what about that? >> he's absolutely right. it has first place, a part of it comes from the fact there's a large muslim population in europe. but people who have emigrated to europe. frankly for economic reasons. and there's a significant community there. and they are the core of it. but there's always ban residue of anti-semitism in europe as we know. but it had a great deal of it being just diminished and it had disappeared. it's coming back again and it's principally pushed by the muslim community. >> we'll be right back with predictions. at perdue, we know fresh chicken.
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... to bring you a fresh tasting chicken. perdue. we believe in a better chicken. predictions, pat? >> new congress will try to arm ukraine, a mistake. >> the next president even if it's a republican, will leave obama's executive order in place. once rights are given, they usually aren't taken away. >> tom? >> before the new congress takes office, senate democrats will attempt to leak the cia report. >> mort? >> the class of energy prices is going to pressure russia's economy and on putin himself. >> next year, the supreme court will rule against the legality of obamacare subsidies on the happy thanksgiving. gobble gobble. bye bye.
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