>> john: today on "face the nation." house speaker john boehner joins us for a rare sunday interview. >> by design there's rambunctious senate. >> john: that may be understatement after friday's messy effort to fully fund the department of homeland security. we'll ask the speaker what's next for the funding, how he plans to wrangle some of those rambunctious republicans and about his controversial invitation to israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. we'll hear from senator dianne feinstein top democrat on intelligence committee. mike huckabee. we'll have analysis on the u.s.-israel relationship and panel on politics. it's all ahead on "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs

good morning, bob is off today we want to welcome the speaker of the house john boehner to the broadcast. mr. speaker, i want to start with the vote on friday night to keep department of homeland security open. when republicans won their big victories in the senate and house in november there was there would be no more of these crises, fiscal fishtailing from crisis to crisis, no more cliff-hanger moment. but there was things were supposed to be different they look the same, why? >> well, because the president took actions with regard to immigration that were far beyond what the law allows him to do. if you remember, john, that the president said 22 times that he couldn't do what he eventually did. i made it clear we're going to do everything we could to block the president's executive over reach. that's the basis of the problem that we're trying to deal with.

and senate refused to pass a bill senator mcconnell tried for almost a month four times senate democrats blocked ability to even debate the bill. so i thoughts the resolution to fund the department of homeland security was ample time to have senate house conference which we've asked for on friday night. and more time for the courts to make a decision about whether they're going to keep the stay in order to block the president. >> john: you had a plan. you had plan to take on the president with three-week effort but that was circumvented. we know about the problem with the democrats, this is what your allys say. you have congressman nunez who is the chairman of the intelligence committee saying, quote, small group of phony conservative members who have no credibility and no political strategy to stop obama

lawlessness, he said they were what caused the problem that afforded your plan, people who want to take it to obama undermine ability to take it to obama, peter king said this group has no concept of reality. can you run a house with that kind of group in your membership? >> we do have members who disagree from time to time over the tactic that we decide to employ. but remember, republicans are united in this idea that the president far exceeded his constitutional authority. and we all want to do things to stop the president from illicit activity. >> john: you are all working to do the same thing but they are -- undermining him. >> we get in argument over tactics from time to time. the goals were all the same. >> john: did they have plan that could have succeeded signed by the president that would have gotten them with they wanted this small group you say that basically undermined your effort? >> not that i know. >> >> was it fruitless? >>

>> house of representatives as said house is rambunctious place, 435 members. a lot of members that have different ideas of what with we should and shouldn't be doing. >> john: can you lead those members? >> i any so. i'm not going to suggest it's easy. because it's not. but remember what is causing this. it's the president of the united states overreaching that's not just on immigration. 38 times he made unilateral changes to obamacare. many of these i believe far beyond his constitutional authority to do so. so the frustration in the country represented through the frustration of our members has people scared to death that the president is just running the country right off the cliff. >> john: what is next? nancy pelosi said you made a promise, what would happen next that bill that would fund the department of homeland security for the rest of the year would be brought up in the house. did you make that promise? >> the promise i made to miss pelosi is the same promise i

made to republicans that we follow regular order. the bill is back in the senate we've asked for conference with the senate. and the senate majority leader at the time, may of 2013 said, i quote, we aren't afraid to try to resolve our differences in a conference committee. this has been the custom of the senate and the house of representatives for almost 200 years. we want to go to conference with the senate. now they have made clear that they don't want to go to conference. that they're going to have a vote when they say vote in fact not to go to conference this bill may be coming back to the house. >> john: what is he's rear to deal with democrats or members of your own party. >> i like dealing with both parties. >> john: let's switch to the visit from prime minister benjamin netanyahu. he has an election coming up in two weeks, he is coming because he opposes this deal he thinks the president is working out with iran. there has been a lot of

political heartburn abut this invitation that you offered to him. has that heartburn has that dust-up undermined the prime minister's ability to make his case? >> i don't believe so at all. the demand for seats in the house, the demand for tickets i've never seen anything like it. everyone wants to be there. what i do wonder is why the white house feels threatened because the congress wants to support israel and wants to hear what a trusteddal high has to say. it has been frankly remarkable to me to the extent to which over the last five or six weeks the white house has attacked the prime minister, attacked me for wanting to hear from one of our closest allies. >> john: has the white house damaged the relationship? >> the animosity between the white house and the prime minister is no secret here in this town. >> john: they made the worse? >> they certainly made it worse over the last five or six weeks.

the threat coming from iran and iranians have nuclear is threat to the region, threat to the united states and threat to the rest of the world. this is a serious issue. we're not going to resolve this issue by sticking our heads in the sand. the prime minister can talk about this threat i believe better than anyone. the united states congress wants to hear from him so do the american people. >> john: but there have been some republican foreign policy experts, james baker said this might backfire, robert kagan writes, the cost is too high. >> i don't believe so. congress has every right to do this. the president very few words to the threat of radical islamic terrorism during state of the union speech almost said nothing about the iranians. these are messages that we need to hear. these are facts that we need to hear. and i'm glad prime minister

accepted my invitation. >> john: do you trust president obama when he says iran doesn't have america weapons. >> i trust what he says. what we all heard what they have leaked out about these negotiations it doesn't strike me that the deal is going to be good enough. >> john: democrats -- this is a concern by both democrats and republicans. >> john: that's right. there were lot of democrats very strongly in support much israel but now this has become another partisan back and forth has democratic support for israel receded as a result of this? >> absolutely not. israel is one of our most trusted allies. there have been bipartisan support in the congress for israel. i'm going back some radio years. that relationship is going to continue between congress and israel, between united states and israel. really only conflict here is

wean the white house and israel. >> john: let me switch now to the issue of isis. you have occasionally supported this president on the foreign policy issues, what is your view of his strategy for combating isis? >> let's go back to the beginning. i do believe we only have one commander in chief at a time. and when it comes to foreign policy, when it comes to international threats. i believe that it's important for americans to speak with one voice. so i go out of my way to be supportive of the president's foreign policy when i think he's right. when it comes to the issue of isis, the president said that he wants to destroy and eliminate isis. that's what the goal is. then he outlines a strategy that nobody believes will accomplish the mission. then he asks for an authorization of the use of military force where he actually asks for less authority than what he has today undercurrent

and previous authorizations to use military force. i don't see how he can resolve these differences. we need a robust strategy to take on these terrorists. very serious matter. we're over there poking them in the nose. we're not really there to defeat and destroy. we don't have a plan that will do that. so we need a robust strategy to take them on and i believe that we need then to give the president a robust authorization to use the authority of the commander in chief to eliminate this threat. >> john: if you were advising the president what would you do? >> boots have to be on the ground. >> john: more u.s. boots on the ground? >> some 3,000 boots on the ground. >> john: more? >> not suggested that we don't. >> john: but more? >> i'll let the military commanders make that decision. the congress shouldn't do it. put -- but the president shouldn't tell our enemies what

we're not going to do. whether they're iraqi military personnel, whether we can bring jordanians and other allies their boots in there. but we have to have some people in there providing advice and those are boots on the ground. >> john: let me ask you a final question. do you like your job? >> friday wasn't all that fun. most days. >> john: why wasn't friday fun? >> it was just messy. i'm not in to mess. i enjoy being in ledge sleigh stiff body. i enjoy all the personalities and i've got a lot of them. >> john: you had a little experience with personalities growing up. >> grew up in a bar. everything -- lot of lessons i learned to do my job i learned growing up in that bar. >> john: speaker john boehner, thanks very much. >> nice to see you. >> john: we'll be right back in a minute to hear from top democrat.

>> dickerson: we're back with senator dianne feinstein. i want to start with the 'he sass nation of boris nemtsov. gunned down this the street. what is the intelligence committee know about this, if anything. >> not very much so far. and that's somewhat of a problem, it's very difficult to get certain kinds of intelligence with respect to russia. but i think it speaks on its face as to what it is. someone very much opposed to the opposition, this is a leader of the opposition to putin i think a distinguished dissident not your average person on the street, but someone who actually served in the cabinet of boris nemtsov. spoke fluent english or was prepared to take on russia with respect to the ukraine and what russia has really been doing

there and was shot down in cold blood. >> dickerson: the question question about his assassination whether there is a connection to vladimir putin. >> i think there is. whether putin authorized it, whether he didn't, whether he knew about it or whether it was his friend or some of his military doing this, we'll wait and see what the investigation. but i think it comes at very bad time too. because the armistice is just beginning to be observed that is minsk ii effect february 15. the draw back of the heavy equipment, the troops are taking place. what i seen reported is that it is beginning to happen. we want it to happen. the only solution there is to work out a solution between the government. and so this certainly presents an obstacle. and i hope that mr. putin will

step up. i hope he will see that some diplomacy can prevail that he can work out a solution with the ukrainian leadership. >> dickerson: i'd like to switch to talking about isis, jihad john was identified last week as muhammad emwasi this is the person in that chilling, the execution nor in that chilling hostage video. what do we know about where he is? >> well, i don't know about where he is that's for sure. clearly he is in syria -- it could be syria or iraq somewhere, we don't know. >> dickerson: should the u.s. be going after him specifically? >> oh, yes he's a target. there should be no question about that. >> dickerson: what would dough we about his he upbringing sort of middle class upbringing, what does that tell us about what is being recruited to fight for isis? >> that's the difficult question. what it tells us is that there

are many young people, you can see this by the number of tweets on twitter, who are so disaffected, even youngsters that have parents that have done quite well in this country, which is somewhat surprising, whether they feel rejected sociallyl they feel they don't have an opportunity, whether they feel this country is anti-muslim, which it is not. i don't know. but it's clearly created a major problem. now a very disturbing thing for me to hear is that young girls are going. and that they are assured of a home, somebody else's home, but a home and can buy what they need there. this is very distressing. >> dickerson: let me ask you about israel and the prime minister's visit you're going to attend the speech. >> yes, i am. >> dickerson: is that proceed vical? >> i'm going to go. i'm going to listen quite respectfully i'm not going to jump up and down which is likely

to be the posture in that room. i am very concerned by that speech. i went to the speech in 2011, i didn't believe it was helpful then and i don't believe it's going to be helpful now. i hope that the prime minister will address what he believes will happen if there is not an agreement. or if there is an agreement between the other nations including the big powers, russia china u.k., france, germany. and just united states that is doing this. what happens then to sanctions if we were to put on additional sanctions and the rest of the nations would not abide by them. >> dickerson: i'd like to have you listen to something charlie rose sat down with the national security advise other susan rice, here is what she said about the speech. >> there has now been injected a degree of partisanship, which is not only unfortunate i think

it's destructive of the fabric of the relationship. >> destructive? >> well, i a lot of crockery as erin miller said, has been broken. and that'se. the basis of the relationship which is a support for independent state of israel. jewish democratic state will remain. there's no question about that. but i think the full page ad in the "new york times" yesterday is really beyond the pale. this is what -- >> dickerson: why beyond the pale? ricin a position as if she condones general side. that's the impact with the skulls next to her face. and she is the president's national security advisor. you may differ with her but there's no justification for an ad like that. >> dickerson: was there anything -- using the word destructive, john kerry mentioned that prime minister netanyahu supported the war in iraq, is administration escalating this a little bit too for relationship that has to

exist after the speech? >> i don't think so. i think it's getting escalated on its own. and we'll hear what the prime minister has to say. and the speech in 2011, had a lot of harsh red lines, would not accept what had been accepted all along the border with some trade land. so he threw out the gauntlet. if he throws out the gauntlet again i'd like to know what they intend to do if there is no an agreement. >> dickerson: we'll all be watching. senator feinstein, thank you so much. we'll be back in a minute.

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>> dickerson: joining us from florida is former arkansas governor mike huckabee who has a new book out that's called "god, gun, grit and gravy" welcome, governor. i want to start with the

question of the prime minister's visit to washington. has the relationship between the united states and isreal become another political football is that a problem? >> well, i hope it hasn't. i think it's very important to note that most democrats in the congress as well as i think across the united states, understand the valuable relationship that we had with israel, want to preserve it and keep it and yes, there's some washington politics involved in this. but let's hope and pray it doesn't spill over into a strained relationship with the one reliable ally that we have basically between africa and asia and very important one. >> dickerson: you've been in israel recently, benjamin netanyahu has 'lex in couple of weeks, how much of a role do you think that plays in it? >> i don't really think that that's what's at play here. i had chance to speak with the prime minister when i was there i've been going to israel for 42 years, first time when i was 17 years old.

i felt like i know this country i know many of the people in government many of the people on the streets of israel. the fact is, that they arerating the issue of the election from the existential threat they face from the possibility of iranians have nuclear weapon. and israel is the canary in the coal mine, something happens to israel that's not the end of it that is the beginning. ultimate target would be the united states. enwe need to recognize that value strategic role that israel plays in our own safety, this isn't just about israel. this is about the safety of the united states. >> dickerson: you refer to how many times you've been to israel, you'll be relying on that experience if you run for president. governor scott walker said his experience combating the 100,000 protesters in wisconsin meant that he could do the same in leading the world that was in the contech of a question about isis. is it that simple? >> you know i've got enough

problems trying to explain my own views without trying to explain someone else's. i'm going to say, i don't know how to respond to what he said. he's the only one who can respond to what that meant. and so i'll just leave it to him. i'll respond to my own rhetoric. >> dickerson: let's get your own rhetoric fired up here on isis, you've said it rattle snack and compared it to a cancer. what would you do to defeat isis. >> first of all we should have been long ago arming the kurds. the most reliable force that we have in the middle east especially in the northern part of iraq. that is willing and ready to fight isis and to do it without american blood being spilled. we have not kept our promise to the kurds. the second thing we should do is make sure that wherever there's an isis target, that we bomb the daylights out of it. we make it unpopular we make it very very tenuous for anybody

to join isis because we need to let them know they are basically sign on to a death sentence if they want to join this hideous savaged, uncivilized group of people who think it's okay to burn people alive and cut their heads on. but not only to do it, john, what is most despicable they are proud of it. they videotape it. they show us to the world. they want us to see it. that makes it more horrifying. >> dickerson: where are you on the question of boots on the ground, some 2016 candidates are supporting that, u.s. boots. >> we don't leave anything off the table but if they're going to be boots they have to be more than just u.s. boots. boots from come from the saudis, jordanians and others. >> dickerson: how final question, i can't let you go without asking about where you are in your presidential journey, you want to just announce it now? >> let's hold off just a little while. we're looking very carefully at the structure that would need to

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>> dickerson: welcome back to "face the nation" i'm john dickerson sitting in for bob schieffer. prime minister netanyahu is on his way to the united states. before he left he visited the western wall in jeff ruse lem netanyahu said although he respects president obama he strong low opposes the agreement the united states is working on with iran. saying it could endanger our very existence. later called his journey a faithful even historic mission. joining us for some analysis on prime minister netanyahu's speech to congress jeffrey goldberg of "the atlantic" take us out of this political back and forth and talk about the stakes of the u.s. relationship with israel. >> the stakes are the u.s. relationship with israel and even greater stakes are what is going to happen with iran nuclear deal. that is historic feature here.

in the way perverse genius of netanyahu he's made this week very much about the partisanship of this speech. his own election and everything else. maybe this is what is going to happen wednesday after the netanyahu speech going to realize this is about a very dangerous moment for president obama. he is moving toward an historic adversary, he's about to make a deal that lot of people including people who support the idea of a deal, think might be weak. so we're heading into an incredibly tense period not only between israel and united states but united states and all of its arab allies who are also nervous job you write that netanyahu is hurting his own cause what do you mean? >> i mean that this is a fairly naked play for votes at home. he's going to re-election on the march 17th. could very easily have come on march 18th or 19th just lobby congress against iran deal that won't be done by that point.

he he has done something even more dangerous than messing around with the political system, threat in this case to turn israel in to a partisan issue in the united states. the united states is israel's second line of defense. first is its own army. second line of defense is bipartisan support in congress and american people. if he turns israel in to a wedge issue, one that separates democrats from republicans on middle east issues, that is very dangerous in the long term for israel. >> dickerson: explain what you mean, president obama is harmed on wednesday. why is he -- >> after we put all the controversy of the speech aside we're going to have to refocus our attention on what is actually happening on the iran negotiation. and it seems from what we know so far, again this is past information, what we know so far is that there are features of the proposed deal that seem fairly weak, that may put iran

on a pathway eventually toward nuclearly sake. >> dickerson: if the deal looks weak does israel act on its own? >> this has been the fear in washington for years. obama administration and even the bush administration before it done good job of holding israel's fire, if you will. telling them -- literally in 2012 president obama said, israel doesn't have to do whatever its thinking abut doing because we've got israel's back. that's the direct quote. no longer believes that the united states or president obama to be specific has israel's back so yes we come back in to a phase where israel might feel desperate enough and not trusting enough of night states that it feels it has to do something on its own. >> what did you feel about the administration, the way they have been playing this, relationship on susan rice's comments. >> the relationship, this is very, very important point you make. relationship must exist and must function on wednesday because we're about to head in to this

very intense period where if the united states makes this deal to iran have to give strategic reassurance to not only israel but the arab states, they have to have good communications on some level of trust. i would think at this point that the administration realizes that it needs to pull back a little bit from the heated rhetoric, there is animosity, genuine animosity between this administration and netanyahu administration. you can't have it at a certain point. >> dickerson: between the president and the prime minister? >> you know, i asked the question in 2012, i asked him i said, are you a netanyahu friend? he gave me a very elegant answer. he said you know, we're so busy with our own jobs it's hard to -- but that was a lighting the point they really don't like each other. they actively don't like each other and trust each other that is a problem for allies. >> dickerson: how to repair that? >> this is the $64,000 question. it has to be repaired. mature voices must be heard and people must understand that if

this is going to succeed, if bringing iran back into the fold or make a strong nuclear deal with iran is to succeed that israel has to understand that this is the way to go, that there's no alternative as senator feinstein said, we're all waiting for benjamin netanyahu to give a better idea. that's what everybody is waiting for. israeli they have to recognize that united states is their true and one and only indefensible ally and deal with it accordingly. obama administration has to realize it can't cut israel adrift. not only fair to israel and go against wishes of the majority of the american people, but it would be dangerous make it -- destabilize the middle east which is already unstable enough. >> dickerson: jeffrey gold per, thanks so much for being here. stay with us, we'll be back with our political panel in a moment.

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look they they can't govern or -- >> that is a complicated question. that's why this question keeps continuing for the past few years. if you take a look at the republican leaders of the congress i think you can probably fault them for not being able to control their own conference and control the situation, but you cannot fault them for failing to control the dynamics behind the whole thing. the fact is, there are about 50 or 60 republican members who are very skeptical and really in opposition to what they see as de facto amnesty in the united states. they are a small group of the republican conference yet they represent probably the he thinking of almost half the country. and they do not really trust the

elite of the party or the elite of america's financial community to come through and address their concerns. so i see this whole split intention of something that will likely continue be very difficult for mr. boehner. >> dickerson: what does he have to do to get these guys in line? >> the question that you raise about whether or not governing or just voting no, i think is a big test. that is one of the big problems that john faces that the speaker faces up on capitol hill right now. that you haveut 50 votes up there, 50 members that have defined the test of conservativism around voting against this president or voting no on bills. and i think that's the wrong message to take from the last election. so many of these members came to congress because they said, look, i'm going to washington to challenge the status quo but i'm also going to show that the institution can work again. that was the message that both speaker boehner and then

minority leader mcconnell they came out after that election that's the argument that they made which is that we're going to demonstrate we can govern. the big challenge again that john boehner has is that he has to go out there demonstrate the benefits from the american people and from republican brand of governing versus having these he one crisis after the next up on capitol hill. that is not going to help republicans. >> mid terms end republicans have big win and president has hone he has a second act the president is on the offensive since mid term. john boehner and mitch mcconnell need a second act because what happened on friday will happen again and again if they don't figure out new way to go. the balance impossible to solve in the abstract. case by case barbara boxer and bernie sanders don't have full detail power democrats are going to obstruct in the senate. you don't have to pass on them. >> here is where i think you can

fault the republican leadership. after the mid term election they came out very eloquently talked about how now republicans both in power are going to demonstrate how they can govern. are going to demonstrate how they are going to put issues important to the american people first. they had to have known when they said those words especially with additional members of a conservative caucus, what it would take to actually make those words a reality. so they either were deluding themselves or being deeply dishonest with the american people because they knew when they said, we're going to demonstrate that we're going to govern, that that was going to mean negotiations and compromise which is absolutely to that conservative caucus. >> the democrats are happy to have ha crack up and seem to be in posture to not really deal with anybody. how does that affect -- >> i wouldn't say happy about it. i would say that democrats are under scoring the message that

they have said frankly very long time that the conservative idealogs in john boehner's cake us are a problem because they're not interested in governing. what democrats are using this is to underscore that they are not even willing to put the funding of dhs at a moment when we need it the most first as opposed to some idealogs who are trying to prove a point because they don't like something that the president did. >> i'm going to switch now to conservative political action conference which was here this week where lot of 2016 candidates were trying out they all talk about ronald reagan, peggy, did you see any reagans throughout on the horizon? >> great thing about being a reagan is when they're on their way up you can never tell, you always see a reagan in retrospect if you know what i mean. you can sort of see greatness as time passes. look, what i saw is a lot of

interesting folk, some real awkward moments. i think this is test driving the car. i think it's getting in saying i don't know does the brake work here? is the gas working right? there were moments of awkwardness, we'll see how it goes, it seems there were a lot of interesting candidates who had plenty of room for improvement. but looked promising. >> dickerson: who is running the best race so far? >> cpac in two three groups three guys who barring some collapse unexpected collapse are going to be finalists in this. jeb bush, rand paul, scott walker, all can raise money. all understand the message they plan to drive straight to iowa. marco rubio and ted cruz were very solid they are in their ebb tier right now to me. they are right at the precipice of being in that group saying we're finalists in this. everybody else rick perry chris christie mike huckabee who didn't to go cpac i think

those guys, rick santorum have to fight their way in to say we are going to be finalists in this contest. >> dickerson: anybody in the republican field look like a real threat to the democrats to the democrat? >> i've said before, that if jeb bush makes it to the nomination and it's a big if, i think that he would be formidable i think on all of the issues that right now republicans are hugely vulnerable on including stance on immigration including their ability to reach out to growing demographics that they know they need to in order to reach the white house, jeb bush has a history, his family has history of being able to do that well. but i just don't see it happening at the moment. i do think did he well at cpac he looked better than what people anticipated and handled it well. but i don't know that this is for sure it's not a done deal because the conservatives again are going to continue caucusing on immigration and common core. >> dickerson: kevin peggy

mentioned test driving the car. there was tiny moment when the clutch ground with scott walker talking about his ability to take on global problems. he said if i can stand up to the protesters i can manage the world. >> look, i think too much was made of that. i think one of th scott walker has to take on this will be the test of whether or not his candidacy is up to par. is when you are -- when you're in madison, wisconsin, you make a mistake nobody knows it. you are a potential presidential candidate everybody notices democrats jump in, three or four other campaigns that used to their advantage which seek to elevate that. the big test for scott walker now is, does he learn from this and does he become a stronger candidate as a result. so, i think that is -- i think, look the president himself actually compared isis to the jv that is the commander in chief that's a bigger problem. in the large -- if we have real debate, that is a bigger problem. scott walker has to learn from this mistake not to make those

type of awkward parallels. then move on. >> talking to people at cpac there are two front runners walker and bush. wish has to defend from the right flank, to me his big challenge is more geographic as front runner, iowa, new hampshire, where does he play, where can he win. walker i think coming out of cpac as a different hall check is people think of them as playing in both lanes which is a strength. social and religious conservative and populous wing also establishment wing. how does he balance that? how does he keep winning favor with the establishment wing that doesn't want jeb bush while not alienating people. he bounced on the populous brilliantly. >> the other big question for bush he is the front run fer uplook at organization and money. he had to make sure he doesn't run like a front runner. has to run that he has to earn this. particularly in the primary states with the -- activists don't want to be told who their

nominee is going to be. >> they do not want the run for the nomination to look like a hostile take over in which you nail down all of the strategists, all of the party egg heads and all of them money. >> i know that sort of looks like a path to success but to me it also looks like path to daneer. >> nobody ever put a bumper sticker on their truck is that said "money and organization." >> what happened to chris christie? >> i think he's under valued. the best brawler in american politics. if he decides he's willing to run with less money less organization, get in those debates and brawl i think he can still be a player. i'm amazed how republicans across the spectrum have written him off. trouble raising money bush locked up fundraiser now cangs himself as outsider. he told me in new jersey that the reason jeb bush is the front runner for the nomination because he's the son and father -- son and boar of

presidents. that is going to be populous message, if i'm jeb bush i'm worried about who is going to be on the stage with me i'd be more afraid of -- >> what is the chris christie argument? >> he's going to win because -- got elected twice in blue state he can take it to hillary clinton. >> he's a natural campaigner. can i point out chris christie has opposite problem of scott walker, scott walker gets to say things in wisconsin, the press doesn't notice. chris christie is across the river from mark. he's across the river from the mainstream media they kill him every time. >> one of the things that struck me is that every single candidate took a swing at hillary clinton. they were obsessive about that. >> they had targets. >> that's true. none of the candidates i think i saw this in all the coverage as well, really rose up to the level of being able to deal with foreign policy. like she would be able to. if she runs. >> republicans, a lot of them

said, ask them what hillary clinton achieved as secretary of state. >> that would be running talking point for sure. >> what is the ons? >> well the short answer to that is that she focused on making sure that america was stronger abroad than it was when obama took office. that is absolutely -- of course republicans will -- >> that's not an answer. >> not a good one. >> an important thing -- name a country who the united states has better relationships now than when president obama took office. >> the world is very complicated place. what hillary clinton was able to do was to make sure that those conversations happened behind the scenes something that had to be repaired when president obama took office. nobody can say that is not true. i think moving forward that is going to be her focus if she runs, she's going to focus on how the conversations took place, what she was able to

accomplish if iran gets -- she will have done a lot to make sure, to do the ground work for that to be -- >> the arena has best line. her criticism of hilary was that getting on a plane and going some place is something you do, it's an activity. it is not an achievement. you know i think that kind of bolsters the talking point you go back and look -- >> it might have been at -- >> dickerson: before we get to the clinton knock down, the fundraising questions how big a problem? >> they're big and they're careless. i have sympathy for the clintons on this they were taking money to do great work around the world. but she's known she's wanted to run for president. taking money from foreign governments which when she was in state department they didn't think was acceptable good idea. continuing to give paid speeches, i don't quite understand why when this is clearly areas of all her -- why she keeps doing this, allows these to happen. almost inexplicable. this gives republicans something

to talk about. it gives them something that does -- plays right in to the narrative of the clinton, is that is amongst the most dangerous. >> dickerson: what should hillary clinton do to get out from under that, give back the money, give a big speech explaining it? >> no. giving back the money would be great. i guess what you're saying is how do you get rid of this as an issue, i suspect it's simply going to continue as an issue. i don't think she will give a big speech. i don't think she'll give back the money. and there are republican criticisms that the money for the clinton foundation went not only for wonderful good things. but also for some things that were essentially keeping the clintons going as an operation. will work it's way out the biggest speech is the one that tells us why she is running for president, what she wants to do. end of story. >> let's be cheer the clinton foundation is a global

foundation. they take money from organization corporations, governments, individuals, from all over the world because of the kinds of things that they are doing to make millions of people's lives better. give back the money, i don't think it's going to happen. if bush becomes nominee should the bush library give back money that kuwait has given them? saudi arabia has given the bush library? >> >> not her foundation. >> dickerson: and hillary clinton's brothers comparison to roger clinton. >> republicans will have to -- i feel like john boehner here. >> don't make me do my boehner impersonation. >> the big hang over this is the american public looks at this they see the clinton drama coming back. is it something that they want to revisit particularly at time where hillary clinton he's argument, the key argument that nicholas to make, what is my vision in this contest for the future. and it's hard when lot of voters

are constantly reminded of the bad things about the clintons and the money scandals and influence scandals and that is something that i think really hurt -- >> i think when voters compare the records of the last clinton and last bush, i think hillary clinton will come out winning. >> that is the last word. thanks to all of you. thank you we'll be right back in a minute. "

>> dickerson: be sure to join us next week as we continue our coverage of the 50th anniversary of the selma march for voting rights. senior white correspondent bill plante who covered the march nor cbs50 years ago will interview president obama in selma for cbs news. and we'll have some of that conversation here on "face the nation" next sunday. we'll be back in a moment.

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