>> schieffer: i'm bob schieffer today on "face the nation," president obama tells our bill plant iran must make more concessiono on inspections if it wants nuclear. we'll get the reaction of israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu in jerusalem. we'll hear from mitch mcconnell in first sunday interview as taking over. congressman craig gowdy tracking down the hillary clinton e-mails and selma 50 years after historic bloody sunday march. because this is "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs good morning, in his interview with senior white correspondent bill plantee yesterday in selma the president talked about how difficult it is going to be to get a nuclear deal with iran.

and in his clearest language yet said flatly that unlessee ran 'degrees to more stringent inspections he will walk away from the deal. here is the key part of what he said. >> there is enormous suspicion between iranian regime and the world, not just the united states. iranian had negotiated seriouslysome of the toughest sanctions ever put in place. we've made progress in narrowing the gaps but the gaps still exist. and i would say that over the next month or so we're going to be able to determine whether or not their system is able to accept what would be extraordinarily reasonable deal if in fact as they say they are only interested in peaceful nuclear programs. and if we had unprecedented transparency in that system if we are able to verify that in

fact they are not then there's deal to be had but that's going to require them toe accept the kind of verification and constraints on their program that so far have not been willing to say yes to. >> the activity of the secretary of state and his counterparts suggests a lot of people, particularly i guess israelis, that deal is imminent. >> i think it is fair to say that there is an urgency because we now have been negotiating for well over a year and the good news is, that during this period iran has abided by the terms of the agreement we know what is happening on the ground in iraq. they have not advanced their nuclear program. we've been able to go back their uranium during this time, unprecedented access into what they are doing. so we're not losing anything through these talks. >> you've said if there is no deal you're willing to walk

away. >> absolutely. no deal, then we walk away. if we cannot verify that they are not going to obtain nuclear weapon that there's a breakout period even if they cheated we would be able to have enough time to take action. if we don't have that kind of deal then we're not going to play. >> schieffer: benjamin netanyahu is back in israel after his unprecedented speech to the joint section of congress, he joins us from jerusalem. prime minister thank you for being here, the president told bill plante we will walk away from any deal if it does not include more stringent inspections than the iranians have already agreed to. is that good enough? >> i respect president obama i expressed in me speech for many things that he's done for israel. we share the same goal of preventing iran from getting a nuclear weapon but disagree how to do it.

i do not trust with the regime, it didn't work with north korea, violated it and played good game of hide-and-seek. didn't work with iran they cheated and bamboozled inspectors, under the nose of inspectors they built underground bunkers that they didn't know about the inspectors and we, intelligence agencies, the u.s. israel, britain didn't know about for years i be lot more circumspect. that you contract iran's nuclear programs there's less to inspect. >> schieffer: do you trust the president to make the right decision on this? >> i think this is not an issue, a personal issue not one of trust. matter of survival, really. deepest security issues for the state of israel for the security of the middle east, for the security of the world also for united states we can have obviously different perspectives but i chose to bring out what i thought would be a better deal. i think the current proposals as

i understand it enabled iran to have vast nuclear infrastructure which means very short break out time secondly lift restrictions after a decade, lifts all the restrictions on iran could have an arsenal of many, many nuclear bombs plus continue to develop the intercontinental ballistic missiles, any police on earth including united states of america. i think there's a better deal. better deal is to increase the break out time and limit iran's infrastructure. secondly, to condition the lifting of restrictions on iran's nuclear program in the future to change in iran's behavior to h it stopped worldwide terrorism. i think that is a better deal. >> schieffer: let me read you a tweet that the white house called -- sent out last week calling attention to an article

on why he said your predictions have been wrong for 25 years. were you offended by that? >> well, the reason i've been warning for 25 years because iran has been trying to get to the bomb if we hadn't acted i and president obama and congress and others, if we hadn't acted in the intervening years iran would have had the nuclear weapon a long time ago. and if we don't let our guard downf we had let our guard down iran would have had the weapon if we let our guard down now it will have the weapon. as far as tweets, if i had to choose i'd retweet something that we link to iran that is the supreme leader ayatollah who he cites nine ways and reasons that israel should be destroyed that gives you much better perspective on this regime. even in these times of,

sometimes disagreement, i think it's useful to remember who your ally is and who your enemy is. >> schieffer: a saudi newspapers reported that the united states plans to offer some arab states, so-called nuclear umbrella as protection against iran. any reaction to that, can you tell us you have information that that is even accurate? >> i don't know, but if it's true it raises two troubling questions. first is that iran has a nuclear weapon program otherwise why offer presumably gulf states, why offer them protection, nuclear protection. the second is, if it's true a shift of u.s. policy from preventing a nuclear iran to containing one. that is not good. >> schieffer: if there is a deal, do you believe that iran's ties to terrorism need to be

dealt with in the agreement? >> i think what you have to make sure is that restrictions on iran are not lifted and do not expire before iran stops its worldwide campaign of terrorism which is included many of attacking america and its allies around the world. i think that is important. if world power don't want to continue before the deal is signed they should certain ly condition it before the deal expires, before the restrictions on iran is lifted. i think should demand from iran clearly before you lift restrictions on its nuclear program that they stop terrorism, that they stop the aggression against the many countries in the middle east that they're gobbling up now. and equally that they stop threatening to annihilate my country one and only jewish state of islam. >> schieffer: mr. prime minister, you knew it was going to be controversial when you decided to come to the united

states and make the speech to the joint session. do you feel that it was successful? >> well, look, i knew it would be difficult. i didn't have any attempt of having part of the imposition. certainly didn't mean any disrespect to the president or anyone else. but i came because as prime minister of israel i felt obligation to speak before congress, may have important role in this deal before the deal isgned. to alert them to what i think are enormous dangers to israel and the region and to the world with the impending deal. >> schieffer: you said in the past that iran must have zero capability to enrich uranium, you did not mention that in your speech. is that still your position? >> that would have been our preference from the beginning, it always is our preference. but i said at the very least have to make sure they don't have the capability to break out to a bomb within a year or less which is current proposal

because in a year anything can happen you can have internationallal wise get away with it. i said that kind of agreement i was talking about, that is increase the break out time, limit their facilities and not lift the restrictions on their nuclear program. something that would be much better deal, something that israel and many of our arab neighbors could live with literally with. >> schieffer: that is, that basically what is a change of what you said before, am i right in saying that? >> it's not our preference. but it's our hope that this would be minimal positions that adopted by the world powers, that is not that iran would have break out capability of no more than one year but break out capability that would require at least several years which was what we had said to be starting positions of those negotiations in the first place. >> schieffer: prime minister,

thank you so much for taking time to join us this morning. >> thank you bob. appreciate it. >> schieffer: and we turn now to the new senate majority leader mitch mcconnell he joins us from louisville. mr. leader, thank you so much for being with us on this first sunday interview since you became the majority leader. you heard prime minister netanyahu you heard president obama, what is your take on how all of this is shaping up? >> first a little history. president was against the sanction, is that we passed that brought iranians to the table. the last state of the union messages he threatened to veto additional sanctions clearly the president does not want congress involved in this issue. we have couple of bills before the senate now one that would require any agreement reached to come to the senate, number of democrats who are sponsoring

that. they seem not to want to vote on it but number of democrats are sponsoring it. i think we need -- prime minister pointed out eye rainians are trouble in syria yemen, all over the middle east they're on the. they have enhanced influence in iraq. can't ignore all of their other behavior in looking at the nuclear -- potential nuclear deal. what we do know about the deal is it looks like we will leave the infrastructure in place with one of the worst regimes in the world. the fact that the president doesn't want congress to participate in this underscores what a bad deal it is. he's afraid that we might not approve it. so i'm very worried about it. and i hope that the president will not make the bad deal that we anticipate he's going to make. >> schieffer: well if a deal

is reached, will you insist that the senate approve it as it would, were it a treaty? >> yes. the chairman of the foreign relations committee has proposal that has at least ten democratic cosponsors for the deal to come before congress for approval. the president has threatened to veto. he doesn't want us to have any role to play in this i'm hoping we get 67 senators to assert the historic role of the senate and the congress in looking at matters of this magnitude. obviously president doesn't want us involved in this. but he's going to need us if he's going to lift any of the existing sanctions and so he cannot work around congress forever. i'm glad the prime minister came. we needed to hear from somebody to point out the problems with the deal that we anticipate will be made and also point out shouldn't ignore all iran's

other behavior unrelated to the nuclear program fomenting revolution all over the middle east they have built ieds killed and injured a number of our personnel. this is a very, very dangerous regime. >> schieffer: the justice department senator is preparing to file charges as you know against new jersey, democratic senator bob menendez saying he accepted gifts and trips in exchange for political favors for long time friend. do you think he should step aside now as the top democrat on the senate foreign relations committee? >> apparently no charges have been brought yet. typically when these kind of charges are brought people step aside from their leadership positions for a period of time. that would be up to the democratic leader, senator reed to make that call. >> schieffer: do you believe

hillary clinton, speaking of former democratic senators, do you believe that secretary clinton, former secretary clinton violated any law by opening this private e-mail account on her own server? >> honestly, i'm not sure but i am a little bit worried about the security of those e-mails. they would have been prime targets for cyberattacks. but i don't know what the law is. i think administration is taking a look at that hopefully we'll find out in the coming weeks just what the legal situation is. >> schieffer: yesterday down in selma the president made an impassed ly to congress to restore voting rights act will you support that? >> the voting rights act is still intact, it prevents discrimination in the voting behavior all across america based on race. the supreme court took out a portion of it. we are taking a look at that

certainly it's an important occasion. bob, disinterestingly enough, i was a young man in 1965 visiting one of my senators from kentucky, he took me over to the rotunda i actually saw lyndon johnson sign the voting rights act. that was of course four or five months after bloody sunday. it has been an extraordinarily important piece of legislation, it prevents discrimination in voting on the base of race all over america. and we all revere the changes that have been brought in our country as a result of this important legislation. >> schieffer: let me just ask you one final question here, that is, now that you are the majority leader in the senate, do you feel you are obligated to work with the president and with the white house to get things done? >> of course. and i think there's some areas that i'm pretty optimistic about. i think we'll be able to make

progress on trade, make progress on cyber-security. when the american people are not saying they don't want anything done they are saying we want you guys on each side to look for things that you can agree on to make progress in the country. that's always my first choice. >> schieffer: quick question treasury secretary sent letter to congress saying that debt limit will reach the ceiling monday republicans going to vote to lift the debt ceiling? >> well the debt ceiling will be handled over a period of month, we have number of tools in the toolbox. i made it very clear after the november election that we're certainly not going to shut down the government or default on the national get. we'll figure some way to handle that hopefully might carry some her important legislation that we can agree on in connection with it. >> schieffer: all right. mr. majority leader, thank you so much for giving us your first interview as majority leader. >> schieffer: thank you bob. >> schieffer: we'll be back with more on the clinton e-mails in just a minute. is never clear. but at t. rowe price

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clinton's e-mails. >> glad that hilary is instructed that those e-mails that had to do with official business had to be disclosed. >> you say you have the most transparent how does this square with that? >> i think the fact that she's going to put them forward will allow us to make sure that people have the information they need. >> schieffer: you heard that congressman, are you going to release the e-mails that she has sent to your commit fee? >> no, sir. not yet. we don't have all of them. there's a reason that serious investigations don't leak and make selective releases. we had eight e-mails last august, we didn't release those. we got 300 more e-mails totaling 800 pages in february. we haven't released those. it's frankly not fair to the secretary not fair to your

viewers, my fellow citizens to selectively release information. now if she wants to release all of them with the emphasis being on the word "all" she's welcome to do that. i can't stop her from doing that. serious investigation don't make selective releases. >> schieffer: let me make sure i understand why this is significant. that is by using this private account on private server she cannot only keep those e-mails from the reach of the government, as i understand it but she could delete the e-mails without anybody knowing it so she has sent you some e-mails but are there any gaps in the e-mails you have received so far from her? >> yes sir. there are gaps of months and months and months. if you think to that iconic picture of her on a c17 flying to libya sunglasses on, she has her hand held device in her hand we have no e-mails from that day. in fact we have no e-mails from that trip.

it's strange credibility to believe that if you're on your way to libya to discuss libyan policy that there's not a single document has been turned over to congress. there are huge gaps, with respect to the president it's note up to secretary clinton to decide what is a public record and what's not. we need someone -- frankly i've lost confidence in the state department toe make that determination, they're the ones who allowed this arrangement did nothing abut this arrangement until they got request from our committee frankly i think your viewers are entitled to a neutral detached auditor to determine what's a public record first of all. that never should have left the custody of the government. secondarily, what is our committee entitled to, we're not entitled to everything. i don't want everything. i just want everything related to libya and benghazi. >> what else is there to know about libya? >> there are three -- why did we

have facility that didn't need any security specification whatsoever. they had a separate classification for our facility and why? why in spite of the escalating violence did we lower our security profile instead of raise it so that's the before. the during our military response, where were our assets located. after all this is the anniversary of 9/11. if you are better prepared to defend the embassy in paris than embassy in ripley i think me fellow citizens want to know that. the aftermath. i continue to naively believe that people have right to expect their government to tell them the truth in the aftermath of tragedy. we know that the video was not connected. we know it was not a spontaneous protest, what we don't know is how early the administration knew those two narratives were false. >> schieffer: congressman i'm going to have to stop you there we've just run out of time.

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>> schieffer: welcome back. continuing our conversation about hilary e-mails with senator chuck schumer. do you believe senator, that she is obligated to come forward and give some sort of public explanation of why she did this? >> well, bottom line is very simple bob. that is if she complete ly complied with the law different secretaries of state have made different choices. colin powell i think did similar to her. but she's turning over more documents than anybody else, 55,000. i think she's come forward mob thaws just about anybody else has. >> schieffer: isn't this sort of -- i mean, it may not be legal but does it really pass the smell test? after all by doing it the way she did it she could delete e-mails without anybody knowing she deleted them. >> well, the law is that you

preserve the e-mails and no one has alleged that any of them were deleted. the fact that she had so many of them. the fact sha she turned them over before all this came public i think in october the state department asked all secretaries of state to send their e-mails over and she's the only one who has done it. >> schieffer: doesn't this sort of reinforce what some of the critics have said about the clinton family over the years that they will cut a corner when they can and we have this now we have disclosures about foreign governments giving to the clinton foundation. just seems to raise a whole lot of issues that people used to have and it looks like they're back in the news. >> well, look, i mean, bottom line she's a national figure, potential presidential candidate. people are going to shoot at her. i know her. we were the two senators for new york for eight years she's is one of the most finest, most

upstanding, most hone rabble people. always trying to do the right things. cares deeply about the country and the middle class. this is politics. this is how it is. i don't think the public is going to pay much attention to this. they care much more about middle class people, who is going to get their wages going up again. who is going to create good paying jobs. these are the issues that matter to people despite the little storm we have in washington right now. >> schieffer: let me turn to the iran deal, you heard prime minister netanyahu this morning, you heard president obama should congress vote and approve a deal with iran if in fact one is reached? >> well, if one is reached. i think senator mcconnell overreached when he put the bill on the floor without bipartisan support. israel-american relationship has always been bipartisan. i was interested to hear not say raise debt controlling that is a little bit of gamesmanship, not in answer to your question but i think worth noting.

bottom line, congress passed the sanctions itself. congress has very much an interest in the sanctions not like president negotiated some arrangement far away in congress had no say. second congress is going to have to do something about this anyway because iran will never sign an agreement where they say permanent and president waves them. going to be a new president in a year and a half. what the bill did layout a way to do it, it shouldn't be done, i nash it shouldn't be done. before there is an agreement, if there is an agreement that the deadline of the 24th, congress has right to weigh in i support it. >> schieffer: all right. senator, thank you so much. >> thanks, bob. appreciate it. >> schieffer: we'll be right back.

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bob yesterday marked the 50th anniversary of bloody sunday the march for voting rights from selma to montgomery that ended up protesters being beaten. one of them injured congress than john lewis made the margin yesterday along with president obama, former president george w. bush and other leaders in the civil rights movement. >> if someone had told me that we were crossing this bridge that one day i would be back here introducing the first african american president, i would have said, you're crazy you're out of your mind, you don't know what you're talking about. president barack obama!

[ applause ] >> we can protect the foundation of our democracy with so many march across this bridge that is the right to vote. [ applause ] voting rights act the culmination of so much blood so much sweat and tears, product of so much sacrifice in the face of wonton violence, voting rights act, future subject of political rancer how can that be? the voting rights act was one of the crowning achievements of our democracy, the result of republican and democratic efforts. president reagan signed it when he was in office. president george w. bush signed

it renewal when he was in office. 100 members of congress have come here today to honor people who are willing to die for the rights of if we want to honor this day let that 100 go back to washington gather 400 more and together, to restore that law this year. >> schieffer: we are joined by senator tim scott the first black republican elected from the south since reconstruction. he is in montgomery, alabama. he was in selma yesterday. senator, thank you so much for joining us. you heard the president yesterday make that pitch to congress to restore the voting rights act. do you support that and are you going to push your leadership to run this through the senate? >> i certainly, bob, i would tell you i think every single american should demand making sure that every other american has right to vote. i think we're all on the same page on that.

the question how do we get there. specifically punish six southern states for atrocities that happened 40 or 50 years ago without updating that formula seems to be discriminatory in and of itself. what i would support is take second view of the voting rights act and look at seeing how we can apply universally to all americans, every place. let's judge people based on performance today not 40 or 50 years ago. >> schieffer: well, so, in other words you're not for restoring it as it was but a new version of it? >> when you look at the triggers back in the '70s and '60s the south carolina no longer qualifies. look at current history of the current state. the governor of south carolina, she is indian-american. i was elected statewide to the united states senate by the voters of south carolina i was first elected to congress at the

home, the start of the civil war. there's no doubt about the fact that there has been amazing progress throughout the south and we should make sure that the formula, is that are used do not punish the history of the state but should represent present state of affairs. >> schieffer: senator, let me ask you candidly how do you think the first black president in america has done in terms of improving race relations? >> i would say that we have had probably neutral position on progressing from a racial perspective in america over the last few years. we have not made as much progress as some would have liked to have seen. if you look at specifically the challenges faced by black america, last six years have been challenging. unemployment rate is near 12% overall. poverty rate near 28%. i will tell you last six years have not been good but most folks, middle america and down this has not been a good economy for those of us who live in

middle class america and living now. there is a lot of opportunity for progress, john lewis spoke about what that looks like going forward, he specifically said education is the key. education is the key. he said it several times yesterday. i wanted to say it twice because my opportunity agenda focuses on the foundation of the american dream and starts with education. you can have a fantastic life here in america in the south, in the north and west and east if you focus your attention on outcomes driven by expectations. >> schieffer: let me ask you this congressman, do you think the justice department ought to dismantle the police department in ferguson as some are suggesting? >> you know, i looked at some of the information, i will tell you that the challenges faced by ferguson police departments goes very, very deep. we have to pay close attention to what happens next. i'm not sure what is going to happen next.

i don't think i don't think the justice department knows what is going to happen next. a thorough investigation is important and necessary. >> schieffer: let me just close, senator by saying i called you congressman i apologize for that. you are the first black senator from the south since reconstruction. and it's been a pleasure to talk to you this morning. thank you sir. >> thanks, bob. thanks for having me back on "face the nation." >> schieffer: all right. in montgomery for benjamin crump represents the family of trayvon martin the young boy killed in cleveland and michael brown. we had quite a celebration down in selma yesterday congressman -- mr. crump, but it comes in the week that the department of justice unveiled a scathing damning report of racial abuses in the ferguson police department. the the out going attorney

general, eric holder says he's going to fix that. do you think he can? >> we have to look at not only what he said in the doj report on the ferguson police and this systemic, the scathing report of discrimination and police excessive force on african americans. also we have to look at these individual shooters and we can't have the department of justice sanitizing all these of people of color who are unarmed. we have to address that head on if we don't have consequences then we won't see any results if our most epidemic that you see unarmed people of color being killed all over america. >> schieffer: well as devastating as this report was there is not going to be any

charges brought against police officer darren wilson who killed that young man. how do you get justice for this family? what happens next? >> first of all we have to look at the high standard that attorney general holder, we have to prove what was in the mind of the shooter that it was some hate, some racism that is such a high standard. instead of having this explicit, should be where we can show implicit bias. you look at that report you see all of these scathing facts come out about racism. don't you think that spills over to the individual officers? we got to address, we can't stick our head in the sand if we really want to stop this from happening on the 50th anniversary of selma now looking at -- have to be honest about it have to speak to the issue, we have to work on the remedy.

>> schieffer: all right. mr. crump i want to thank you so much for joining us this morning. and for being in selma yesterday. we'll be back with our panel in just a minute. a remote that lives on your phone. more wi-fi in more places. a movie library you can take wherever you go. internet speeds that have gotten faster 13 times in 13 years. at comcast, we're creating new possibilities. together with time warner cable, we'll be able to extend those to more people. comcast and time warner cable. together is better for more people.

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>> schieffer: we talk to all of this an our panel on week that we were rulely, i don't know about you but i was overwhelmed by all this. ruth marcus with the "washington post." welcome april ryan to the broadcast she's the white house correspondent for american urban radio networks. the author of "the presidency in black and white. march guess brennan is our intrepid state department correspondent and gerry seib with the "wall street journal." april, what did you think of the president's speech? i must say from standpoint of oratory best speech he's made in a long time. >> it is the best speech he's made in a long time. it was impactful he brought in not just -- didn't just talk about the struggle in the black community and what happens in selma. also touched on every community in the nation. he brought us together as we the people. we shall overcome.

and yes we can. at the end he brought in that rousing scripture from isaiah he brought it out with a moment of the obama that we seem to understand and gravitate to when he was running for president. >> schieffer: this was not the college professor speaking in the abstract that so many people have expressed some disappointment in the president from time to time. this sounded like a very different. >> it was heartfelt as april said. also i thought one of the things that was fascinating used the speech not only to discuss the state of african american america and all america but also to implicitly answer his critics on the question of american exceptionalism does he love -- underlying question does he love the country. to talk about exceptionalism of america as being understanding america as a work in progress and constant struggle towards improvement.

and i thought it was just a fascinating linkage of those two things especially on a week as you discussed earlier in the show that we had this appalling report about ferguson to say what fantastic moment for john lewis, beaten on the bridge, could be introducing an african american president. and he did really the most interesting job in the speech on we are exceptional because we are constantly improving. >> schieffer: gerry which brings us to ferguson the same week as president makes this speech you have this week's celebration down in selma this appalling report comes out the justice department reports on what's going on down there in ferguson. do you think that anything that happened this week in selma will push the administration and justice department to try to do something about that? >> there's a line in the speech that rang in that, america is strong enough to be self critical that's what this justice department report was about.

being strong enough to be critical to the way justice is dispensed in the country right now. you sort of have sense of eric holder. the attorney general who is leaving kind of wanted to leave a legacy here he decided that the -- not going to be prosecution of the white police officer in ferguson but there could be systemic change in the way justice is dispensed not at the top in washington but around the country. so, yeah i think so, this is going to start the ball rolling that is going to be moving for a long time and discussed for a long time. >> schieffer: i've got to ask you about the hilary e-mail story. you think you've heard everything then you get this report. you know, those on hillary clinton's side there is nothing illegal here, we get lot of people have done this in the past. have a lot of people done this in the past margaret? >> e-mails? no not like she did. secretary albright, powell, rice we didn't e-mail for official business or when we did

we have gone through -- we don't have access to those records. hillary clinton not only exceptional secretary of state because of her history as first lady because of her prominence but also realized solely on personal e-mail. that is this new territory and state department lawyers are really sort of hashing this out right now, to be honest they seem quite surprised at the outcry trying to figure out how they're going to possibly sort through these 55,000 pages redact some of the personal information then decide going through the freedom of information act process which can actually be publicly released. i don't think we're going to see the e-mails for a long time in the public space. >> schieffer: what is your take on this? it just revives all those old stories of the clintons will take advantage whenever they have chance. >> it sure does, with all due respect to your guest senator seweller this is lot more than a hiccup. i won't continue the metaphor.

but the notion as secretary clinton folks have been saying thee complied with the spirit and letter of the law it was clear to everybody especially aftermath of the controversy over the bush white house use of personal e-mails, something secretary clinton herself criticized that better course if you're going to be government official use your official e-mail. everybody seemed to know that except for secretary clinton. if you didn't use your american e-mail make sure that that stuff got transferred not after the fact after congressional commit these ask for it but in realtime. >> schieffer: april, you covered the clinton family for a long time. >> i have. i find it very interesting, i think former secretary hillary clinton will have to make a statement about this.

hearing on your show the clinton sent 80,000 pieces of e-mails to state department and state department has onus on this. but democrats saying 55,000, either way it's a lot. looking for benghazi and libya he hasn't seen the pieces, the e-mails that he's looking for. she needs to come out and make clarity before she runs or potentially runs for president of the united states. >> schieffer: why would she do it? you watched for a long time as i have. why decide to do this. >> release the e-mails? >> schieffer: decide to have private e-mails. >> that's the real question. why do it this way. why subject yourself he. now the problem is, this will, a, go on for a long time. it's going to take a long time toe redact 55,000 e-mails. and b, in the meantime, this keeps the benghazi story alive. this is way to keep the benghazi

question rolling on for months and months. that's exactly what is going to happen now. why put yourself in this position. that's really the question people are scratching their heads about. >> i think if we can secretary clinton we know the answer to. she has a history unfortunate history, one that doesn't seem to be adequately learning from, of always erring on the side of keeping things behind closed doors and secret rather than going for full disclosure. i would guess that she figures this was better way to protect herself and not for the first time without being much more harm than doing it the regular way would have ended up being for her. >> schieffer: you know, this team of rivals that president obama put together in this administration, was it possible that she did this because she didn't want some of the rivals,

could this keep these e-mails out of their reach? >> even they they came together, state department was separate from a white house and lot of ways. but i suspect that she was told, state department was told the white house has said and did say this white house that all e-mails should go through the account. the white house account. they understand that you have a life before, you have gmail or anything will be transferred but to not do that. she just didn't want to conflate both issues maybe. we don't know. but she needs to come out and talk about it. >> what we know in 2008 or around that time platal aide working for them set this account up. what we don't know what the state department lawyers decided when hillary clinton came in to office which was kosher or not. appears what president obama told bill plante he wasn't aware

of it, the state department they did know she often used personal account. in this edibly charged political environment making these decisions right now. and right now it does not appear what hillary clinton's camp feels the need. >> one would think state department documents this is totally kosher way to proceed that we might have -- >> schieffer: is it going to be an issue? >> sure, it's going to be an issue. as ruth said it adds to the narrative. whether that is the spirit it is going to be an issue. >> schieffer: thank you all very much. this is one of those things that obviously we're going to hear more about before it's over. and we'll be right back.

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