>> osgood: i'm bob schieffer today on "face the nation," the middle east on fire. and whose side we're on depends on which battle you're talking about. plus the key question following that european plane crash that took 150 lives, could it happen here. we'll get latest on that from the hero of the miracle on the hudson, captain sully sullenberger. on the middle east we'll turn to richard burr the chairman of the senate intelligence committee. adam schiff top democrat on the house intelligence committee and saudi arabian ambassador adel al-jubeir as we try to untangle the increasingly dangerous situation there. then we'll have new cbs news poll oncoming presidential race. we'll talk to former arkansas governor mike huckabee who is one of the early leaders.

plus a preview of the new edward kennedy institute. and a talk with some of his former colleagues from both sides of the aisle. this is "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs good morning, rescue efforts continue at the plane crash site in the french alps we know now that the copilot who apparently crashed the plane on purpose into the mountain was being treated for some kind of illness that should have prevented him from being in the cockpit that day. to talk about this story we're joined by former u.s. air captain and cbs news aviation and safety expert sully sullenberger who join us from san francisco. captain, all news is local i think the question most on the minds of most -- many americans this morning is simply this. could this have happened here on a u.s. carrier? >> well, bob, we must do everything we can to prevent it from happening here.

but there is one reason that this particular pilot could not have been an airline pilot in u.s. currently that is that rules now require that airline pilots have at least 1500 hours and airline transport pilot license, about two and a half times total flying experience. >> schieffer: are there safeguards in place? this is a rare thing for someone to commit suicide in the cockpit of an airplane as happened but it has happened before. are there safeguards in place and what are they exactly? >> well, we here in the u.s. have had two wonderful advantages for many decades. first, after world war ii until recently about 75% of all airline passengers have been military trained aviators. that means that they have been through a rigorous, very structured and disciplined screening process to become military pilots. then they have been screened a second time to be hired as airline pilots.

it's an important selection process, anybody who is doing this job is yell suited by training and by temperature meant. those who were not military pilots, training and hiring standards have been high enough that most civilian have hat multiple professional flying jobs, been screened by multiple employers. >> well, could a pilot conceal that he was suffering from compression if he chose to? do they have to volunteer that information or do they undergo examinations or what happens? >> pilots do undergo examinations, in fact professional pilots are the most scrutinized professional groups that exist in the united states. pilots have to undergo an fcc medical examination every year if they're under 40 every six months older than 40. we have to disclose every medical condition that might affect our -- not to do so makes subject to severe penalties. also required to list every

single doctor visit who we saw for what purpose at the time of every medical examination. there may somebody hiding going on but it's made somewhat betterrer by more enlightened approach that the faa took in terms of mental health in 2010 by allowing pilots to be recertified to fly while still taking certain kinds of medication to improve their mood. >> schieffer: captain what are the safest air explains are you better off flying u.s. carriers and -- than you are flying some of these other carriers operating around the world? >> there is variation in the safety rates of airlines around the world. safest have been north america australia, new zealand, parts of europe, middle eastern carriers have been very safe. unfortunately while we do have agreed upon international standards they have become recommendations because in order for them to be implemented each

country must mandate that its airlines and those that use air space adhere to these standards. there is variation as we've seen this week. it was primarily u.s. carriers that haddock put rule. many other carriers did not. >> schieffer: captain, thank you very much for being so candid with us this morning. we appreciate that. thank you. turning now to the other big story as the "washington post" has put it not since the 1960s has so many states in the middle east been engaged in so many wars. here is how complicated it's become. we are trying to negotiate a deal with iran to curb their nuclear program. in iraq we are aligned with iranian backed militia fighting isis. in yemen aligned with saudi arabia against iranian-backed rebels who are trying to topple the government there. and we're joined now in the studio by saudi arabia's ambassador to the united states adel al-jubeir.

mr. ambassador, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> schieffer: this has become so complicated it's like the old, you don't know the players without the scorecard here. it is extremely complicated. now, your king is saying that the saudi airstrikes which began in yemen last week are going to continue until saudi arabia reaches its goals. what are the goals? >> the objective is to protect the people of yes, ma'amen from a radical organization that is allied with iran and hezbollah that is virtually taken over the country. to defend legitimate government of yemen and to open up the way for political talks so that yemen can move -- complete transition period move towards a better place. >> schieffer: is this what this street mr. ambassador, a proxy war? saudi arabia on one side and the iranians on the other? because they are backing these rebel groups in yemen right now. >> that's correct. but i would describe as proxy.

i would describe as war of necessity. we have no choice. we tried every possible way to avoid it, yemenese tried. agreements were made, every single agreement that was made with 67 of them to be precise were reneged on. they continued to take over the country and when they were virtually about to take over the city with its president we have to step in in order to -- in response by government to do so under article 51. >> schieffer: how much did iran have to do with this if. >> a lot. ideologically with iran, they provided them with weapons. iranians provided them with advisors and provided them with money. >> schieffer: are you the arab league now said they're going to come together form coalition here. what is this, of rapid response force that you're talking about and would you expect ground troops in yemen?

>> i think those for separate issues. the use of force in yes, ma'am tone defend religious government and protect the people of yemen. we have coalition of over ten countries that are participating in those operations. we are determined to continue operations until objective is achieved. this is one part. the arab league agreed to creation of a force that would be similar to rapid deployment force. the purpose of this force would be to go after extremists go after terrorists, to support countries that may not have ability to do the job on their own. this is an idea that has been discussed for some time now and arab leaders at the summit agreed to begin to establish such a force. >> schieffer: do you see such a force going into yemen? >> i don't know that anyone wants to go into yemen in terms of forces, but don't want anything out. we have sufficient forces in the current coalition if need be to go into yemen. but right now objective is being

achieved through an air campaign. >> schieffer: all this playing out while the negotiations to try to pushy pan's nuclear program are underway. the saudi arabia want a deal? >> i believe everybody wants a deal. but everybody wants good deal. we have been assured by the united states by secretary kerry when he met that the deal that they intend to negotiate would prevent iran from acquiring an atomic bomb. close all paths leading to atomic bomb. will limit iran's ability to do research and enrich. it will impose intrusive a continuous on iran.e. but we really will not know until we see the details. i don't believe details have been worked out yet. we expect that they will be a framework agreement with the details to be negotiated over next two or three months. so the key will be, what will be

in those details. >> schieffer: mr. ambassador, thank you so much for giving us your perspective this morning. >> thank you. >> schieffer: we turn to the senate intelligence committee chair. richard burr joins us from greensboro, north carolina. senator let me just start with the ambassador left off. he said, everybody wants a deal but what they want is a good deal. from what you are able to tell about those negotiations so far is this a good deal shaping up? >> well, bob, we just got bits and pieces have come from administration or through other sources that are familiar with negotiations. it doesn't seem to be headed in the right direction. clearly deadline of tuesday i'm concerned with what we might give away. iranians don't seem to want to conclude this, but i think more importantly right now when we see isil and 12 different countries around the world iran playing about nine countries financially or physically. i think now is the time to push

back from the table and ask ourselves, is it really time to trust the people that we're negotiating with, the iranians. i would encourage the administration, let's take more time. let's not highways tone a deal. i near secretary kerry believes that he's got to get a deal by tuesday. >> schieffer: what you're saying is, you would be one of those who would favor postponing the deadline here and keep working? >> i think that's better than a bad deal. i've got really bad feeling about what they might come with. but i think bob i suggest you look at the realities around the world. you just explained it really well in one place we're partnering, another place we're actually partnering with the people that are fighting against iranian-backed folks. last week we saw iraqis call on u.s. for airstrikes and the shia militia boycott the fact that america was involved even some

conversation about taking the opportunity either to down aircraft or kill americans. these are the same people we're sitting at a table with saying we're going to trust them not to have nuclear proliferation. and in fact this is one of the most chaotic times in the history of the world i think. not only in the middle east but in north africa. west africa, central asia. it seems like iran their stake in the fire. >> i know you've been briefed as the head of the senate intelligence committee. what is your sense of what is happening in yemen right now? >> well, clearly we're on the verge of a civil war. i think that we have seen, as the ambassador just said, who has been a tremendous representative from saudi. i had long conversation with ambassador last week. ten countries have come together. primarily because they can't allow iran to take a foothold in yemen. this is iran. they financed them, they have

consulted them they have sent weapons and fact is, that the gulf states, this coalition will not stand by and see that presence seeded there. how we can really consult with the iranians and iraq especially the way they treat u.s. forces there. >> schieffer: should we have done something that we didn't do could we have maybe made this situation better than it's turned out to be or not? >> bob it would have started a long time ago by not removing every u.s. boot from the ground in iraq making sure that we could have a stable security force there. it's estimated that there are 30,000 either iraqi or shia militia on the assault for kick crete. only 400isil members right now. required u.s. airstrikes to

soften them up some. i think reality is that in our absence terrorism has flourished throughout the region between syria and iraq and has spread now to countries in north africa and central asia. >> schieffer: senator, thank you so much for joining us this morning bringing us that perspective. we're going to turn to congressman adam schiff he's in the studio with us the top democrat on the house intelligence committee. you've just heard all the speakers who have come before you here. congressman, who is your take on where we are right now? >> we're in a very dangerous place, certainly in yemen. i think there is a real prospect of civil war here. it is probably unlikely that these airstrikes alone are going to be sufficient to repel the hoothies best hope goes back to negotiating table. if they start launching scud missiles intoed rain then you are going to see ground war there's no telling where that ends up. >> congressman let me ask you.

let's say somebody sitting out there watching this broadcast this morning saying, yeah, this is all bad. but how does that impact on the united states of america. what do you tell them when they ask that question? >> couple of things. in yemen we ought to be concerned what happens there. in the chaos that is going on right now al qaeda and the peninsula aqap the most lethal franchise of al qaeda has chance to grow. that is a real threat to us. we were talking about aircraft earlier on the program, they have been building these bombs that can get past our metal detectors have made repeated attempts to blow up our aircraft. giving them any opportunity to grow is very important to stop which means we have very acute interest in yemen. also see in places like tikrit they are coming together, we have couple competing objectives in iraq, we want to make sure that we defeat isis because they

pose to our homeland. we don't want if see iranian increase by making iraq some kind of a vast state of tehran. those goals are somewhat in conflict. complementary in part because we're trying to defeat isis at the same time, this heavy reliance on these iranian backed shia militia is concern. >> how does this trying to get some kind of deal to curb their nuclear weapons? you heard the reservations that senator burr just expressed. >> i'm for a good deal f. we can get one. think it's still unclear what that final deal is going to look like. and i would be very good because alternative is we pass new sanctions which i would support. we hope to keep europeans together if we're lucky. and we wait for that additional economic pressure to bring iran back to the table get a better deal. the problem is, that may take

years. they may get to israel's line before that time comes. alternative is also dangerous. but i'm trying to keep my -- >> schieffer: should we extend the deadline? senator burr would be willing to go along with that. >> i was interested he said that. there's been a lot of g.o.p. pressure on finding out what we have by the end of this month or applying new sanctions as the pointed out clinging to this deadline puts us at disadvantage we need to reach a deal by then more than iranians do. i'd be in favor of taking the time. by the end of june. one other point you asked about relation between these issues, i think it's vitally important that we have the saudis back in what they're doing in yemen right now because that may give saudis some comfort that even if we do reach an agreement with iran on the nuclear program that doesn't mean that we're not going to be willing to confront iran as it tries to expand it

nefarious influence. >> schieffer: thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you. >> schieffer: we'll be back to talk a little politics in one minute. jack's heart attack didn't come with a warning. today, his doctor has him on a bayer aspirin regimen

to help reduce the risk of another one. if you've had a heart attack be sure to talk to your doctor before your begin an aspirin regimen. >> schieffer: now politics. the new cbs news poll on the 2016 presidential race is out. it suggests republican race is wide open, no surprise on this one. hillary clinton is the favorite of most democrats. what is surprising, 66% would like her to face strong competition in the primaries. who that would be is unclear. on the republican side who would you consider voting for jeb bush topped leaderboard at 51%. but mike huckabee is next followed by rand paul marco rubio, ted cruz, scott walker and rick perry. finish can out the field, rick santorum. and lindsey graham.

and governor huckabee joins us now from destin, florida. let me ask the ox question. are you going to run? >> well, bob decision hasn't been made. i've been saying it's going to be this spring. it's still snowing in boston. give me a few more weeks. but i'll make an announcement relatively soon. >> schieffer: it's clear that ted cruz is going after what you consider your base, that is conservative christians. tell me why you can represent them better than he can. >> well, my base is beyond just evangelical. a lot of people perceive that. certainly important part of the base that i enjoy back in 2008 but i think that untold secret that a lot of supportive, i anticipate that i will have is the working class blue collar people who grew up a lot like i

did. not blue blood built blue collar. there's a real sense in the republican party that there's no one speaking not only to them but speaking for them. if someone can capture both blue collar working class republicans, the conservatives, many of them even union members. as well as evangelicals there's real pathway to the nomination. >> schieffer: what do you see as the main challenge for the next person who becomes president? >> i think restore hope in america again. bring this country back where we believe we're going to be able to be at our best. people are discouraged, i meet people every day whose economy is not recovering, they're not feeling the sense of recovery that people in washington are boasting about. their economy is not recovering. folks out there working hard. and i believe if we don't give people a sense of hope and optimism, first about their own

economic situation then about the world that is on fire, it's going to be hard to get america back on track. and i believe most americans in the polls reflect this. believe that we're on the wrong track right now. >> schieffer: you got good reviews when you were governor of arkansas for the most part. but do you consider yourself qualified to handle foreign policy? you've just heard what we've been talking abut this morning. i can't remember when the world was more tangled up than it is right now. what can you bring to that? what will you tell people when they ask you that question? >> well, a lot of people don't know my first trip to the middle east was in 1973. 42 years ago when i was all of 17. i've been to the middle east several dozen times. just got back from israel last month, was there three times just last year. i've been to virtually every country that we talk about whether it's egypt, jordan

israel iraq afghanistan, the saudi, saudi arabia, emirates kuwait. turkey pakistan india. this is a part of the world with which i am familiar firsthand and as a governor i also met with many world leaders as well as ceos of multi-national corporations. frankly most governors do. i think it's sometimes perceived that governors don't hatch much of a world view. i would tend to take issue that that is not always the case. >> schieffer: do you think this is going to be a contest to determine who is the most conservative republican candidate or who is the most electable republican candidate? >> i know that there is going to be a big brouhaha over who is the most conservative. but if you look at all the republicans who are thinking about regioning, there really isn't an out right liberal in the whole bunch. there may be degrees of more conservative on one policy or another.

but i think that compared to the current administration all of us are conservative. but i'm convinced, bob that the average american voter at least ones that are going to decide the election they don't think horizontally it's not through them left, right liberal conservative democrat recommend play can i'm convinced that a lot of persons are asking the question about the vertical perspective. who is going to take us up and who is going to take us down. and they are heck of lot more concerned about somebody getting this country this economy, our world in upward direction than just to say that horizontally further to the right or moved further to the left. >> schieffer: governor we're going to stop right there. hope to see you grin. hope you'll call us tell us you're ready to announce we'll put you right here on "face the nation." >> i'll let you know, bob thanks. >> schieffer: reel be right back.

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>> schieffer: welcome back to "face the nation." the president and vice president will be among those from washington in boston tomorrow for the opening of the edward m. kennedy institute, which includes among other things a life size recreation of the u.s. senate chamber where the late senator served for 47 years. it's all there from the senate well and senators' desk. his widow, vicky was a driving force behind this. >> ted kennedy was certainly a joyous democrat. he loved his party. he was a man of strong belief. but he always listened. and looked for that negative common ground that could move an issue forward. >> schieffer: in the historic senate room where he crafted so much of the legislation that became law we gathered four of

his long time colleagues. democratic senator barbara mikulski. former senator chris dodd, olympia snowe and john mccain. and we asked them how he managed to do it. >> he dedicated his life to the institution and there by being able become one of the most effective members of the united states senn at. i might add probably greatest antagonist i ever had on the floor of the senate. >> schieffer: yet you were friends. >> we had some of the great bouts, yet i remember one time we had a huge fight that two freshmen had begun we drove them from the floor and afterwards walking off the floor he put his arm around me. we did a good thing didn't we, john? he enjoyed the combat but he didn't personalize the combat. that is really one of the reasons why i think so many, on both sides of the aisle had not

just respect but after awhile affection. >> he was a legislative man he used his skills as a negotiator. he appreciated the traditions of the senate and also got to know his colleagues, their preferences and dislikes. understood that adversary today would be ally tomorrow. >> schieffer: he was one of your closest personal friends senator dodd. what do you think it was about him? >> once said that the senate changes a person. that it has ability to make heightened sense of responsibility. that is something i don't understand. this is the most unique institution in public life in many ways because of the rules of the place. mandates that you work with each other. in fact the minority given status here unlike any other place in the country. and teddy effect of the senate really had an affect on him. in this very room, where we're

gathered here today, i watched him day in and day out make it possible for people he disagreed with to have victories. >> the energy, the fact that he was more than willing to let other people take the credit even thoughers the big guy in the room. a very savvy strategic legislator. also made you feel welcome. made you feel like you mattered and you counted. i was with him when he met world leaders in this beautiful committee rooms, i was with him at in boston walking the streets where he made the kitchen staff and people making the meatballs as well as important as people making policy. >> ted always kept his word. only times i saw him angry was when somebody didn't keep their word. all senators have a -- the more senior you get he had an interesting custom that if it was a new senator who had never

visited there before he would take them on a little tour of the hide away, where there was various pictures of his brothers of his family, of the life, of the in tire kennedy family. i never saw anybody that didn't come away sort of impressed and more than that, of greater appreciation for ted condition de's devotion to his family. >> that's very interesting. where you say he was someone who kept his word. >> he kept his word. sometimes that was hard for him to do. >> chris mentioned about this hearing room, reminded me of an initiative that i work with ted on of the genetic nondiscrimination. coauthored the bill. it was reported on this committee, he chaired it, democrats were in the majority at that time. reported out as the snowe-kennedy bill ratherrer than kennedy-snowe.

the chair usually signs his or her name first. i wasn't a member of the committee. i give this as example imagine how frankly in today's legislative environment to have s.u.v. magnanimous gesture that kind of deference. >> he'd have a dinner at the beginning of each congress at his home. no staff, just members. he'd go around the room ask everybody what they would like to do. what they would like to achieve in that congress. and i know leadership used to try to send the meanest junk yard dog to be the ranking republican because he was too -- too productive. awfully difficult to say no the a guy says, tell me what you'd like to do and let me help you do it. invariably friends would turn around and how can i be mad at this guy he's going to help me do something i'd like to do. it was magical and fun to work

with. >> on women's health agenda which senator kennedy was very supportive. when i came to the senn eight i was the only democratic woman. senator snowe and i worked in the house along with some others in the fact women had not been included in the protocols at nih we were excluded. they said our hormones messed up the research, whatever that meant. [laughter] senator kennedy -- >> schieffer: what did that mean? >> well i could do a whole show on that, bob. but senator snowe working with others in the house we were moving an agenda, we realized there was no -- got women in the protocol, in the office of women's health. worked with me, reached out to me reached out to olympia and the gang in the house we moved

it. >> schieffer: let me -- can't be complete without his passion. bob dole once said that ted kennedy was the only senator he ever knew who could eviscerate you on the floor of the senate then come into the coat room convince you that he wasn't talking about you. but i'm telling you it was fun to do battle with him. but it was a daunting experience. and have no doubt about the fact that he was a partisan liberal democrat of the old school. but at the same time as we've described he was willing to work with the other side and come to agreement. but some of the most ferocious debates i've ever had, i will ever have, were with ted kennedy. >> schieffer: did you ever get mad at him on the floor? >> we got mad at each other. then when you walk off the floor all that goes away.

because legitimate belief, is that each of us had. the passion i think is not only appropriate but admirable. >> schieffer: it's not that way any more? >> no. john says something important. to take it a step further having spent a lot of time with ted on a personal level, i could be in the middle of the ocean sailing with him not another human being within miles you would think he was -- on the floor of the senate is wound up about a subject matter. calm down, just the two of us here. you're talking to the fish out here. he's talking about healthcare or whatever it was, just felt passionately about it. this wasn't just a staged event on the floor of the senate it was passionate but it was not mean. >> that's what i think the difference is today. there's a lot of meanness in washington. >> all of us here are pretty vocal and outspoken can hit high

decibel levels. it was situational. it was in the passion of the moment. the passionate debate of ideas. i feel that one of the ways ted kennedy organized the way he did with the meetings and was more friendship, less partisanship. because you knew each other. always trying to find a way. sure, we're going to fight and differ but when the day is over, the day has to be over, begin new day you find a new way. >> schieffer: will we ever see his likes again? >> if teddy were here he'd make this work. i have great confidence in the place and the institution. goes to ups and downs never perfect in the sense. the senate changes people. if you are here for awhile you understand it's different and requires exactly what olympia said, spree mice and collaboration. it will work again. i think he would be optimistic. he'd be troubled by the

differences right now. >> schieffer: what do you think, senator? >> may see his like again. i've seen with some of the newer and younger members of the senate. but i don't think you'll see the kind of credentials and background and experience and family. let's face it. the kennedy family is probably as close to royalty as this nation has ever had. whether that's good or bad i'm not prepared to say. but i think brought some unique background and history that probably we may never see again. >> he was fearless in getting things done, almost half century of his remarkable public service. the institute is designed to inspire the next generation of leadership to have hands-on appreciation of the potential and the power to do good through public service by virtue of serving the united states senate >> i miss the back and forth.

and i certainly do miss him. i miss the combat. i miss the integrity and desire to get things done for the people of this country. i do agree that there will be others that are equally as far as service is concerned. but frankly for those we may never see his like quite like that again. >> schieffer: thank you all very much. >> thank you, bob. >> schieffer: when senator kennedy died in 2009 i remember writing that as i watched his funeral i had thought of a book i had just read called "the art of racing in the rain" and the protagonist observes that no race is ever been won on the first turn but many have ended there. ted kennedy crashed and crashed again during the early turns of his life. but somehow he kept ongoing through sorrows and tragedies

over which he had no control and self destructiveness over which he did. and in the final laps he won. his children loved him his contemporaries even those who often opposed him admired him and those whose causes he championed thanked him. to what else. many laws he authored changed the lives of millions and many ways he was the classic american hero the imperfect man who was sorely tested and yet in that testing found a way to overcome personal flaws and go on to accomplish great things. you didn't have to agree with his politics to appreciate what he achieved. back in a minute.

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extraordinary things you do every single day. live claritin clear. every day. >> schieffer: we're back with political panel to do a little analysis, the chief correspondent for the "washington post" who won prestigious prize for excellence and political reporting just last week. congratulations to you dan. also with us scott conroy, the senior political reporter for "the huffington post." and cbs news congressional correspondent nancy cordes along with politico senior congress mall reporter many raju. let's start with the cbs news poll. jeb bush is on top no surprise there. huckabee has slipped a little, what's interesting about the poll and may be simply because it was being conducted while he was announcing he was running,

ted cruz moved up considerably more than any other candidate. is he going to be viable candidate? >> i think he will be in iowa. the iowa caucuses typically appeal to more social conservative. huckabee had won that caucus in '08 and in 2012 rick santorum won as well. the question for ted cruz, can he broaden his appeal beyond those religious conservatives. put together coalition that could win in new hampshire, make him competitive in south carolina and run the table. that is a very, very big challenge for him. >> schieffer: you see him as a factor? >> he will be a factor because he will pull the field to the right. his position himself in unyielding conservative. someone that folks who are trying to vie for that same segmented of voters would have to pay attention to. when he takes a position, it will be interesting to see how the other candidates adjust to that whether they move towards

him or move a little bit to his left. >> schieffer: do you agree with the poll, dan that it's wide open on republican? >> oh, yeah. we're going to see a lot of fluidity in these numbers month to month as some people rise and fall. scott walker had a good month at one point, ted cruz makes announcement his poll shows movement. there was movement for rand paul in here. but the striking thing about a lot of these numbers is how little most republicans know about a lot of candidates. so, the question is, as they begin to come into focus do their numbers rise or do they fall? >> schieffer: one of the interesting things, nab see, is on democratic side, i don't think there's any surprise for anyone that hillary clinton some 80% say they could vote for hillary clinton. but what i found interesting was that 66% said they like to see her have very competitive primary season.

who would pose the challenge here? >> the interesting thing s when they ask okay, look at these other candidates two-thirds of the same people who answered the poll don't know enough about. to even form any kind of opinion about them. >> schieffer: bernie sanders isn't even a democrat. >> people don't know that. for a more active primary but there's no consensus on who those other opponents should be. >> schieffer: scott let's talk about senator clinton. we learned now from the chairman of the committee that is investigating benghazi that in fact she has deleted all of the e-mails in her server. where is all this? is this going to be a factor? is this a problem for her? has she done something illegal? >> i mean, if you talk to run of the mill voter i don't think they cave so much about the e-mail issue.

the problem is, that it feeds into perception that are already pre-engrained about the clintons wanting to play by their own rules. that is the issue for her. as far as hilary coming out and announcing here i think her biggest concern is coming up with her reason for why she wants to be president of the united states. that question that trips up ted kennedy in 1980. why do you want to do this? she's got to come up with a great answer for that that goes beyond the talking points of, well i want to help the middle class. because that is the question people are wondering, they don't want to just see coronation here. they want to see why she wants to do this. >> schieffer: dan they are all starting on both sides going to new hampshire going to iowa does iowa matter any more? we know ted cruz is going out there to try to get the conservatives, that's where huckabee, i would guess, would be the strongest right now.

because the democrats and republicans out there tend to be evangelical, many of them. is iowa a factor this time? >> it's a factor for two reasons. one is, it's one of the two places where candidates actually have to talk to voters face to face over extended period of time. new hampshire is the other. both those states have that culture. it's important in the sense in testing these candidates as to what they get out of those and how people react to them. the sect reason is, it tends to win on the right side of the field. it's not a good indicator necessarily who have is going to be the nominee. but it does wipe out part of the field early on. >> schieffer: my sense of it is that we're going to come down to jeb bush is going to be a factor right down to the end. and whoever wins the rest of the candidate -- >> i think you can't -- let's say it's at the time cruz after all rick santorum last time around, won must 25% of the vote. ted cruz would get to 25%.

i'd say he probably has most loyal followers at this point in the game. >> other factor is the money race. we're going to see a big indication in the next couple of weeks when they are to report their first quarter numbers. and jeb bush has been going before crowds asking for hundred thousand dollar donations apiece for his super pac. with the number that he posts early on will show how formidable he is. >> then someone like scott walker who doesn't quite have the other candidates who are well-known only 8% of people who responded said they wouldn't consider voting for him. lowest number in the poll. he's got loot of room to grow. >> schieffer: the other surprise to me in this poll was chris christie. he's down toward the bottom but what sticks out is that 40-something percent of the republicans said no, they would not consider voting for him.

he leads the pack by good measure on that. is he done? >> that's a terrible number for chris christie. but, the thing to keep in mind here that you don't need majority. in race where we'll have 12 maybe 15 candidates, chris christie can get this in thing, win 25% in new hampshire be on his way. i was a the town hall meeting in new jersey this week, actually and when chris christie is on his game, it's like watching ted williams hit a baseball. the guy just connects with voters better than anyone else in this race. he's got a big hill to climb not going to be a front runner remember in 2007 john mccain had no shot, no money all establishment supporters going to rudy and mitt romney he became the nominee. don't count him out yet. >> schieffer: what 'bought all this trouble -- i think i shed awhile ago. i can't remember a time when the world was more tangled up than it is right now. you heard me ask governor huckabee, do you feel qualified

on foreign policy issues. he said, yes he thought he was. but is foreign policy going to be an issue? >> a very big issue. going to be very important to be able to speak with fluidity about these issues. this is one area where senators like marco rub yes or rand paul have real advantage. secret of the fact that they're talking to experts, but they are not going to have the same kind of comfort level talking about these issues as someone who talks about them day in and day out. >> schieffer: what impact is netanyahu going to have on this election? >> he's polarized the whole issue of u.s.-israeli relationships. it has forced all the republicans to identify more closely with him than with policy of their own government. and so he continues to be a factor.

we'll see what happens once these iranian negotiations either reach a conclusion whether they get deal or not or whether they decide to extend few more months. but he has sharpened the polarization over that particular piece of foreign policy. >> schieffer: nancy my sense is that we're a long way from a deal right now. what do you think? what feeling are you getting? >> i think we are away from a deal. there's a break on capitol hill it doesn't necessarily go along partyline. folks who say, there's no deal, let's vote for more sanctions, mainly democrats who say, let's give it more time. let's let this process play out. netanyahu has had a big influence on republicans on capitol hill and they are lock step with him against this. >> schieffer: i'm sorry. our time the gong just -- our time has run out. thank you all very much. we'll be right back.

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