todd davis. welcome him. [ cheers and applause ] todd, these are crazy stories that we hear. >> well, the key is, if it had happened now, we would have had the chance to try to stop these crimes before they happened. >> and i talked a little bit earlier about fraud -- identity theft. a lot of people think if somebody, you know, swipes your credit card while you're standing at such-and-such a store, look over you shoulder, and they charge four or five things and walk away -- that's one crime. >> yeah. >> that may be the extent of the crime. but then, when they take it the next step further... >> the keys to the kingdom for a criminal is get that personally identifiable information -- not just a credit card that can be turned off in minutes if you notify, but let's get name birth date, social security number. and once they have that, unfortunately for hanna's sake once it's out there, you see what happens. not only can't you get a mortgage -- sit there, clean it up, worked for years to make this bet