wallace carroll. he was always carroll the. it was nice to have his granddaughter here and his daughter here. [applause] there is no one that deserved recognition as much as he does, mary. you can affect this. let me start by asking you, you had a way for us in 1978. you are a -- we are child, i know, when you had a wonderful career in journalism. many years at the world bank. why, in 2017 or 18, did you decide to start do a book on your constitutional law professor? >> that's a good question. if you are very lucky when you are young, at a certain age, she run into people that stay with you. you look at them, and for some reason, you want to emulate and you just respect. when i was at wake forest, i was 22 years old, and i took a course on the first amendment from wallace carroll. there was something about him than that you just wanted to do well for this person. you didn't talk about himself. you wasn't loquacious. he didn't tell you everything he'd done in his life, but you just knew. and so he stayed with me, and i went into

carroll. i can never call him. wallace or why? carroll he always is. carroll. and it's so nice to have his daughter here and his granddaughter here today because. there is no one that deserves recognition as much as as he does mary. and you've done a fabulous job. but let me start by asking you, you got to wait for us. in 1978, you were a mere child. i know. and you had a wonderful career in journalism. many years at the world bank. why? in thousand 17 or 18, you decided to do a book on your constitutional law professor. that's question. well, you know, if you're very lucky when, you're young of a certain age, you run into people that stay you and that you look at. and for some reason, you want to and you just respect. and when i was at wake forest, you know, i was 20 years old and i took course on the first amendment from wallace carroll. and there was something about then that you wanted to do well for, this person. he didn't talk about he wasn't loquacious. he wasn't, you know, didn't tell you everything he'd done in his life. but you just knew. and so he st

i do think that's the messages of wallace carroll really were fulfilled and played out through john carroll. i think that there is very little difference in the way that they approached a journalism. also, i can say in the way they were beloved. i've talked to many journalist now who worked with john, and they say, you know, they respected and learned and thought very highly of him. >> i would add that your grandfather and great grandfather, wow, they were so strikingly similar in so many ways. they were just, they were both softspoken, but with a will have iron, tremendous integrity, courage. they just, and as mary said, they commanded such respects and adulation from the people who worked for them. talk to people at the l. a. times when john carroll where there. people at the baltimore sun are the locks into paper when he took on the university of kentucky, sports and kentucky. that's like taking on tobacco i winston cheryl. i think mary is right, it didn't fall far from the tree, whatever that clichÉs. let's take one more. more on a roll. >> hi, i'm recall. i'm actually a classmate of ma

. >> one of his students i talked to said, and i'm going to beat this, everything wallace carroll said felt relevant to the real world, outside of the bubble. i sensed everything we learned would be important. i remember how regal he stood, how elegantly he dressed, and how regularly he strolled across the campus for his win sessions. >> right. this particular commentator went on to win two pulitzer prizes. she's a journalist and north carolina. >> this is been terrific. i don't want to cut it off but nicole says she's going to give me the heck off i don't. are you going to try to get one and? go ahead. >> now she's organized our. >> anyways, read the buck. he was an extraordinary man. he changed so many lives. including mine. and rarely has just done a fantastic, she captured at. my only regret reading the book as i wish i'd know more about him before, because he, and he really was the centuries witness. thank you all very much. weekends on c-span two and an intellectual. fiesta for saturday, american documents america story, and on sundays, book tv brings you the latest in books and