_ what they did to harbour 0sama bin laden for— what they did to harbour 0sama bin laden for many many years. we see the connection they are, we have iran also taking — connection they are, we have iran also taking a very close eye on this, _ also taking a very close eye on this, as — also taking a very close eye on this, as well. it's notjust pakistan, _ this, as well. it's notjust pakistan, its iran, china, russia as well - _ pakistan, its iran, china, russia as well - att— pakistan, its iran, china, russia as well — all these areas which are quite _ well — all these areas which are quite happy to see america looking understrength, quite happy to see boris _ understrength, quite happy to see borisjohnson in britain looking helpless, as well for this all helps them _ helpless, as well for this all helps them so— helpless, as well for this all helps them. so yes, this is a relationship we should — them. so yes, this is a relationship we should be looking at again, but ultimately, what have we got to fight _ ultimately, what have we got to fight them with? we had dominic raab talki

it's a mission that brought 0sama bin laden to adjust and, along with many of his co—conspirators.ers and civilians killed and more than 20,000 were injured. sadly, that includes 13 us service members who were killed last week by an isis case suicide bomber. we honour their sacrifice today as we remember there heroic accomplishments. 0ur chief international correspondent lyse doucet is in kabul since it is a native history. at time yet _ since it is a native history. git time yet again where afghans are turning the page. i will bring in a bit of history. i was from 1989 with the soviet troops left in 92 when they took power and in 2001 when the us—led invasion toppled the taliban. afghans have never lived through such a transition which is so fraught with fear and it is shrouded in darkness and uncertainty. the mantra of the united states during this withdrawal which began months ago was that it would be a safe orderly and responsible withdrawal. and yet, it is one which has ended notjust in chaos and violence, but in pain and hurt for afghans yet again. afghans who dared to hope a

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if you think about how we caught 0sama bin laden, it was through his career, not his deputy. it was throughthe things he could have provided to the russian intelligence services, it is really remarkable, he could have given them security codes to get into the embassy, he could have given them floor plans, security protocol. all of those things could help you penetrate any kind of facility. how do you think russia will be viewing this? 0n the one hand, it shows it is flexing its muscles, but on the other hand they have been caught potentially? i definitely get what you are saying. we have had a lot of this going on, with the russians getting caught. really the russian plan has been to deny, deny, deny. this would be a bit more difficult, because it is very clear that the british and the germans have been working together on this since november. so they have had information that this individual was actively recruited, which will be much more difficult for them to deny. interesting — what about the other way around? we have famous recent examples as you have highlighted, but are britain and th

since the taliban was toppled by the united states, who blamed them after 9/11 for harbouring 0sama bin ladenhey have changed since last being in power. back then, they established sharia law and denied rights to women. 0ur chief international correspondent lyse doucet looks now at how the taliban is likely to govern this time — and how the world might engage with them. step—by—step, a return to rule. ever since the taliban signed a deal last year with the us, their old enemy, they've been emboldened. moments like this started to shift their international profile. recent months, had their flags hoisted on the ground. then suddenly this summer, district by district, district by district, they won the fight. in many places, theyjust walked in. not because they were strong, the government was weak. in many places, theyjust walked in. the corrupt government and the corrupt leaders, they were all pretty much responsible because they didn't stand up. they took the aid money and went away, and that's the reason so many people lost confidence in them. these scenes were recently filmed for us in warda

the hardline islamists who once harboured 0sama bin laden are gaining ground fast as they sweep throughy. as ever, it's the civilians who are paying the highest prices. more than a thousand have been killed in recent weeks. many more have been pushed from their homes as they are caught up in the fighting. a us—led military coalition to oust the taliban first began in 2001 following the 9/11 attacks — but now most of the foreign troops have pulled out. a54 british forces personnel or mod civilians lost their lives. nearly 2,300 us troops have been killed. and more than 120,000 afghan military, police and civilians have died in the conflict. as the taliban continue to capture territory, questions are being asked about what was achieved over the past two decades and the future looks like for afghans. 0ur correspondent yogita limaye reports from the capital, kabul. desperation on a scale not seen in decades. thousands have arrived in kabul in the past few days. people who had homes and jobs, who led dignified lives... ..forced to leave everything behind. angry that they've been left on thei

taliban is back in control, the people who were responsible and seen in the us as having given 0sama bin ladennt to plot an organise those terrible attacks? i think the withdrawal will be regarded there as a huge mistake. biden appears to be proceeding and not wavering because that is an assumption it will not cost the us anything, and the real damage will not be clear until the reports of refugees flooding across borders, young girls being sold to taliban fighters and the real scale of the humanitarian disaster hits our screen regularly. already the republicans are piling in and cut sizing —— criticising the decision, senate republican leader mitch mcconnell saying today the biden administration had been reduced to pleading with the taliban to protect the us embassy, and said the us risked a humiliating sequel to the fall of saigon in 1975. i think this is a stain on the biden— i think this is a stain on the biden presidency. and i think this is a rethink of how reliable the us is as a partner going forward. the afghans feel betrayed and when you see potentially facing millions of refugees fl

it's a mission that brought 0sama bin laden to a just and along with many of his al-qaeda co—conspirators not a cheap mission. the cost was 2561 us servers members and civilians killed and more than 20,000 who were injured. sadly, that includes 13 service members who were we honour their sacrifices today as we remember their heroic accomplishments. 0ur i'm joined now by barbra plett usher our corresopndeint in the us, just listening to that pentagon briefing — confirming that the last us flight has left, general mckenzie saying that there was a lot of heartbreak about this departure — talk us through the main points of what he said *0ne well, he emphasised the massive airlift and a mission had accomplished a lot in the sense of getting out more than 120,000 people. he said that not everyone who got out including dozens of americans but even the military phases over this would now moved on to the diplomatic phase, handing it over to the state department to continue efforts to try to help those who wanted to leave, depart the country. on a security point he said that the caliban had been us

it's 20 years since the taliban was toppled by the us, who blamed them after 9/11 for harbouring 0sama bin ladenhey have changed since last being in power. back then, they established sharia law and denied rights to women. 0ur chief international correspondent lyse doucet looks now at how the taliban is likely to govern this time — and how the world might engage with them. step—by—step, a return to rule. ever since the taliban signed a deal last year with the us, their old enemy, they've been emboldened. moments like this started to shift their international image. recent months saw their flags hoisted from the ground. district by district they won the fight against gun troops. and in many places they just walked in. not because there were strong, the government was weak. —— afghan troops. the were strong, the government was weak. -- afghan troops. the corrupt government — weak. -- afghan troops. the corrupt government and _ weak. -- afghan troops. the corrupt government and corrupt _ weak. -- afghan troops. the corrupt government and corrupt leaders - weak. -- afghan troops. the corrupt governm

soon after 9/11 he fled with 0sama bin laden to pakistan where 0sama bin laden to pakistan where 0samas later. he was classified by the us is a designated global terrorist. the fact he has returned, according to this video that was filmed yesterday, doing a hard province in eastern afghanistan is worrying for two reasons. it shows al-qaeda now a judge is safe enough for somebody as senior and as him to return to afghanistan. that shows they are not that spooked by whatever this over the horizon thread is that the west promises to contain militants from. the other is that he has been clearly according to the video, so welcomed by some of the locals with this rapturous welcome from afghan locals in nangarhar which shows there probably are ethnic and marital ties between al-qaeda and the taliban, just as the un said in its report injune. we have got to break this down into two issues actually. 0ne break this down into two issues actually. one is, are the taliban serious when they say they are splitting from al-qaeda? they haven't actually said exactly that. they have said they won't allow

he has written extensively on afghanistan. 0sama bin laden famously kept a book by michael on his bookevel. the whole thing is mind—numbing, even for those who have been following this and knew the possibilities and remember how fast the taliban fell 20 years ago. so we know afghans don't like to fight in a losing cause and therefore, its not entirely surprising that much of the government security forces would collapse like this. but given that they have, you wouldn't necessarily expect the taliban to negotiate over anything. i am still sceptical that they will, but it's fascinating. we are processing information as fast as it comes in and, as you just reported, the developments are happening by the hour at a pace that even in the annals of rapid military conquests and war is quite something. so i obviously hope and pray that somehow there could be an agreement whereby the taliban decided to basically say, "we will at least make the effort to bring other voices into this government, to grant amnesties." it is more than i would have hoped for, frankly, and i'm still not quite sure that

the george bush administration had not pursued the al-qaeda remnants into the caves and found 0sama bin ladenon in december of 2001 instead of starting to withdraw troops and starting to build up to invade iraq, the whole story that are talking about tonight would've been very, very different. and while there has been all this focus and concentration on afghanistan and a lot of, you know, troops tied down and a lot of money tied down, the franchises of isis, al-qaeda have grown, metastasized, isis grew out of the iraq occupation from people who were imprisoned by the americans in iraq. now they are across central africa. they are in the horn of africa. and you know, they are also, let's not forget, for the most part, they are no longer operating on american or european soil. so another thing for americans and europeans to forget. unfortunately, if you live in those countries, northern parts of nigeria, for example, you can't forget because they are a part of daily life. they are a danger to you every single day. you mentioned that, and it's a very good point. janet, on some of these broader q

as we demonstrated when we took up 0sama bin laden in pakistan, albert bardi in syria, the leader ofoops on the ground ——al baghdadi. 0ur intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance ability to strike direct targets anywhere in the world but a threat arises, we have the capacity, we've done it and we will continue to do it. having troops on the ground having troops withdrawn, the main thing it does it it takes the target off their backs on how we won't have any more of these killings but we still have the ability to reach out any time we identify a threat. retired lieutenant colonel daniel davis speaking to me earlier. stay with us here on bbc news. still to come: scientists in egypt discover the fossilised remains of an ancient four—legged whale. he's the first african—american to win the presidential nomination for a major political party and he accepts, exactly 45 years to the day when martin luther king declared, "i have a dream". as darkness falls tonight, an unfamiliar light will appear in the south—eastern sky. an orange glowing disc that's brighter than anything, save the mo

i remember in 2011, the us special forces codenamed 0sama bin laden geronimo, and what he was killed,mo kia." sam? i believe the owner intends to fight this, and - "geronimo kia." sam? i believe the owner intends to fight this, and she | owner intends to fight this, and she will not let anybody on her land to take geronimo out. she's been quite clear about that. it's quite a tragic story, but yeah, it's an ongoing battle and i think it seems that geronimo has actually been in isolation since 2017 after testing positive for bovine... isolation since 2017 after testing positive for bovine. . ._ positive for bovine... watching netflix? grace, _ positive for bovine... watching netflix? grace, and _ positive for bovine. .. watching netflix? grace, and our- positive for bovine... watching netflix? grace, and our last i positive for bovine... watching l netflix? grace, and our last few seconds, when someone has a name, it all changes. if geronimo is called a 782, we wouldn't be having this story. 782, we wouldn't be having this sto . ., , , 782, we wouldn't be having this sto. .,,.,_ ., , .,

but the us got rid of al-qaeda from afghanistan and they did eventually find 0sama bin laden in pakistant empty words. i'm sure they will retaliate. the question is by retaliating, will present biden in the war, the lungs were in the united states has ever been involved in or does open up a new phase of it. if indeed he does do that. essen it. if indeed he does do that. even if they use — it. if indeed he does do that. even if they use drone _ it. if indeed he does do that. even if they use drone strikes, - it. if indeed he does do that. even if they use drone strikes, as we have seen many times before in this part of the world, there is a risk of civilians dying.— of civilians dying. yesterday understand _ of civilians dying. yesterday understand why _ of civilians dying. yesterday understand why president l of civilians dying. yesterday - understand why president biden has to come _ understand why president biden has to come out with such tough language and he's _ to come out with such tough language and he's got a lot of critics at home, — and he's got a lot of critics at home, a _ an

there and his arguments in terms of pulling out is, our mission was to get rid of al-qaeda and 0sama bin laden particular thing with president biden. 0n the other hand, yes he has made clear as has his national defence team that they want to shift their focus to asia. but they are being quite clear about it that the challenges posed by russia and especially by china are theissues russia and especially by china are the issues they want to focus on and the issues they want to focus on and the drawdown from afghanistan is being put in that context as well. what sort of conversations have the usb and have been whether it is political or everyday americans been having about the us talking to the taliban? we have heard there is going to have to be some sort of recognition of the government. what is the feeling there? the recognition of the government. what is the feeling there?— is the feeling there? the us has been talking _ is the feeling there? the us has been talking to _ is the feeling there? the us has been talking to the _ is the feeling there? the us has been talking to the taliban - is the

there is no question the war was justified and that he had certainly celebrated the death of 0sama bin ladeninexcusable, absolutely inexcusable. what they did was pull out. how they did it was absolutely wrong, absolutely wrong. after this debacle last weekend, i do not feel proud of our leaders. i feel proud about our nation, but not our current leaders. each room has a little piece ofjoe in it... christine lemmfeels a huge amount of pride for her husband, joe. he was in the new york police at the time of the 9/11 attacks and was one of those who pulled bodies from the rubble. that day was the reason he re—enlisted and went to fight in afghanistan. but it was there that he was killed. they went over there to make america safer. after what happened at 9/11. so, how are we safer now, with the taliban taking over? i'm sick to my stomach. looking at a 20—year war, wherejoe and over 2,300 soldiers have died in the afghan war. all to be given back to the taliban. joe was specifically killed by a taliban suicide bomber. christine's son was just four years old when he saluted the coffin of his fath

he has written extensively on afghanistan. 0sama bin laden famously kept a book by michael on his bookhis and knew the possibilities and remember how fast the taliban fell 20 years ago. so we know afghans don't like to fight in a losing cause and therefore it's not entirely surprising that much of the government security forces would collapse like this. but given that they have, you wouldn't necessarily expect the taliban to negotiate over anything. i am still sceptical that they will. but it is fascinating. we are processing information as fast as it comes in and, as you just reported, the developments are happening by the hour at a pace that even in the annals of rapid military conquests and war is quite something. so i obviously hope and pray that somehow there could be an agreement whereby the taliban decided to basically say, we will at least make the effort to bring other voices into this government, to grant amnesties. it is more than i would have hoped for, frankly, and i am still not quite sure that it is going to happen, but i guess that is where we have to go now with our as

there's no question the war was justified, and that he had certainly celebrated the death of 0sama bin ladenituation that just occurred in afghanistan over the weekend was inexcusable. absolutely inexcusable. what they did was pull out — how they did it was absolutely wrong. absolutely wrong. after this debacle this last weekend, i do not feel proud of our leaders, i feel proud about our nation but not our current leaders. each room has a little piece ofjoe in it. christine lemm feels a huge amount of pride for her husband, joe. he was in the new york police at the time of the 9/11 attacks and was one of those who pulled bodies from the rubble. that day was the reason he re—enlisted and went to fight in afghanistan. but it was there that he was killed. they went over there to make america safer after what happened at 9/11. so how are we safer now, with the taliban taking over? i'm sick to my stomach. looking at a 20—year war wherejoe and over 2,300 soldiers have died in the afghan war, all to be given back to the taliban. joe was specifically killed by a taliban suicide bomber. christine's s

our mission to degrade the terrorist threat of al-qaeda in afghanistan and kill 0sama bin laden was affort to overturn centuries of history and permanently change afghanistan was not, and i wrote and believed that it never could be. i cannot and will not ask our troops to fight on endlessly in another country's civil war, taking casualties, suffering life shattering injuries, leaving families broken by grief and loss. this is not in our national security interest. it is not what the american people want. it is not what our troops who have sacrificed so much over the past two decades deserve. i made a commitment to the american people when i ran for president but i would bring america's military involvement in afghanistan to an end. while it has been hard and messy, and yes, far from perfect, i've honoured that commitment. more importantly, i've made a commitment to the brave men and women who served this nation that i wasn't going to ask them to continue risking their lives in a military action that should have ended long ago. our leaders did that in vietnam when i got here is a young

and on the day 0sama bin laden�*s right—hand man is reported to have returned to afghanistan, what ofallenge ahead? i take responsibility for the decision. now, some say we should have started mass evacuations sooner. it could not had this been donein sooner. it could not had this been done in a more orderly manner. i respectfully disagree. imagine if we had begun evacuations injune or july, bringing in thousands of american troops and evacuating more than 120,000 people in the middle of a civil war. let's go to gary in washington. throughout the last few weeks there have been questions about withdrawal and whether it could've been done sooner or handled better or prevented the loss of life. but again tonight he wanted to return to bigger question. he again tonight he wanted to return to bigger question-— again tonight he wanted to return to bigger question. he did, although he did send bigger question. he did, although he did spend some _ bigger question. he did, although he did spend some time _ bigger question. he did, although he did spend some time defending - bigger question. he

certainly authorised the war in both afghanistan and iraq after 9/11, but after the killing of 0sama bin laden he was vice president and he ran on ending this war in afghanistan, and that is something he did. it is also important to know that back in april 75% of americans believe that the united states needed to get out of afghanistan. what we're seeing here is a president following through his campaign promise. even though right now his approval rating is falling, this is something we are certainly democrats and president biden are going to run on both in the mid—term elections and possibly in 202a. things are falling at the moment. how is this going down on the streets of america when they see the pictures of the chaos at the airport and they deal with the reality of what leaving means?— and they deal with the reality of what leaving means? well, again, many americans _ what leaving means? well, again, many americans thought - what leaving means? well, again, many americans thought that - what leaving means? well, again, many americans thought that the | many americans thought that the unit

0sama george w. bush in december 2001 when osama bin laden was in the mountains of tora bora and i was there i saw thewe're going to try and rebuild afghanistan and they're going to rebuild the afghan that is there all of this started because if you're going to stay and rebuild a society, that a safeway generation commitments, not 20 years, it's 40, 50 years and america is putting out. that is a betrayal of the afghan people, isn't it? taste that is a betrayal of the afghan people, isn't it?— that is a betrayal of the afghan people, isn't it? we will certainly be analysing _ people, isn't it? we will certainly be analysing what _ people, isn't it? we will certainly be analysing what went _ people, isn't it? we will certainly be analysing what went wrong i people, isn't it? we will certainly| be analysing what went wrong and where in this wire, and a 20 year warand where in this wire, and a 20 year war and how the mission increased and then by successive presidents and then by successive presidents and in particular the last two presidents, trump and biden wanted to pull out. so they will be plenty of