there's a few questions here. one is that the i, c, j itself is solely a judicial arm. it's not an executive barn, but even if tomorrow morning, the i c j. rule done to seize fire or roll that immediately much more humanitarian aid needs to come in for does. the only arm that can make is real. do that with them. the united nations framework is the security council, right. the ice itself as no and portsmouth packet there's, it's already talked to that rule. and despite the fact that me is probably, and i'm a probably, uh the, i see the south africa kim, uh, apply a den to the b i. c j and say listen, be the situation is getting worse, israel's beginning it's onslaught of off of off. it's much more dangerous. can you issue other measures such as, was interesting about that. i think, although i would say the 1st mission exposures, the only way to comply by that is a 6 of us. yes. is fine. okay. use of how much picking up on on what they've was saying that you've touched upon it and do it. one of your 1st offices tell us more about the situation on 8 because it is right and

as i am a pro c 9, so this is a here the somebody believes that also the reason the i c j, meaning that the funding evelyn is more than just a coincidence. it is wrong. came off with statements prior to i. c j saying that they do not believe that i c j will be really in accordance with the prophetic dismissed everything that the south african legal team go to the i c j. but with the i c, j supported a lot of that notion and of how it was that yours diction. it seems very coincidental that a day or day while the same day or a day later, that is wrong, comes with claims of how it's one rest off. be involved with different mazda tech and funding stuff. stuffing it's. it's extremely coincidental on rugs and relief if it's in the cause of the main life blood and support for high is that right? they have over 13000 stuff and it's the main source of funds that are going into hundreds. yeah. and so the, to be 2000000 people in the highs uh, uh, extremely dependent on, on draft funds. um and you know, if you're going to start funds like that, and you're not going to replace it with additional fu

a co incidence. with the recent i c j with a of israel came off with statements prior to i. c j saying that they do not believe that i c j will be really in accordance with the prophetic dismissed. everything that the south african legal team brought to the i c j. but with the i c, j supported a lot of that notion of how it was that yours diction. it seems very coincidental that a day or day all the same day with a late to that is rock, comes with claims of how it's one rest off being involved with different mazda tech and funding stuff. stuffing it's. it's extremely coincidental on rugs and relief if it's in the cause of the main life blood and support for high is that right? they have over 13000 stuff and it's the main source of funds that are going to hide, sir. and so the, to be too many people in the highs uh, uh, extremely dependent on, on girlfriends. um and you know, if you're going to stop funds like that and you're not going to replace it with additional funds, that's gonna have catastrophic impacts on the people of headsets. but you're talking about a situation we,

can be a month, a $1.00 best time with coastal robert dining julia winning best supporting actor b a. c. j awards. i'll consider that indicates a whole winning films inactive next month's oscars for all of these stories on our website to challenges that don't come lower. we'll have more use in house 9 and use on to stay with us here on. i'll just say the the or when so certainly has not done with us yet. so for japan we've got more nasty weather coming through developing area of low pressure. just stuff. sure. no problem at area of life pressure, which will ring in the winds from an east legal, northeast lea, direction grass, the whole town, little more northly. so we have got to fab, let us know that having to have caught on northern paso opponents, you very heavy. right? on the eastern side of hong to having said that, 12 sales is for total cash flow is not a problem here, but i think it warms up further as you go through with tuesday. but that just arriving normally when will bring further snow showers in the cost of moving half of the country southern past. and we try and find try and

and these were the prime minister's office is rejected to legitimacy olsby or a c j case on the occupation of the palestinian territories. israel does not recognize the legitimacy of the proceedings of the international court in the hague, regarding the legality of the occupation, which are an effort designed to infringe on israel's rights to defend itself against excess central threats. the proceedings in the hague or part of the palestinian attempt to dictate the results of the diplomatic settlement. without negotiations, we will continue to reject this the government and the conduct that are united in rejecting this unacceptable course of action. while in an exclusive interview with 2 or 3 depaula sydney and investigators to nigeria has called for further investigation of as well as alleged will crimes regarding the inquiry or the investigation suspended. important because we are going to see the claim that since $100.00 looks for me to 30 days so far as i have conducted tens of thousands of water climes i get stuck with this thing and that, and all of these kinds should be investigated

c, j. those are pretty close to georgine genocide, this implies and you get a responsibility for member states because basically the i, c j has a nurse to the international community. all the reason i'm kind of finding garza and he does order the media to ineffective action. so they have to take an action scene, their power to prevent these drugs from queen to continuing with my procedure general side. and the 2nd is to um, to ensure they, they do not to aiden the, but we the, we tend to go to the ox and they might be seen the high school police it without soap jo site. so instead of ensuring that you money tie a is the very to is that they even trenton. now what they do is they take action, castigating the agency that provides critical support to maintenance of the policy and seem to try, how do you make sense of that? i mean, your point out the paradox and it's jude contradiction. how do these powerful nations arrive at the conclusion that this makes sense? i seen and i'm the country, and i'm now seeing then they will, can see their restating 8. well, it's not sufficient. they shouldn't have

a threat? well 1st of all, this question, oh the, i see, see the i c j i see accountability as a very broad campus. so yes, the i c j which is due to types disease between states that the licensee which can bring cases against individuals, but also the work being done in national geo sections just today we have, i was yesterday at a really in holland of on supplies. so it's clear that i can only precious chucky recently, downgrade is economic relationship with me as well. so there are many other things getting all across the board. i think as far as the people in gossip are concerned, i think the future is lee. i think the while you have a situation where they in some actual community colleges like maya good in the united states, canada offer pad a on the one hand to continue supplying weapons. as well as diplomatic and political support through the united states. as you seem as in the security council, so the same time the phone, the very thing can i say she established by the united nations to bring it to mount a time to release some assistance to these people though i think there was a real pro

funding of a separatist in the east of the country as it was supposed to have done with its obligations on the various international laws governing the financing of terrorism . but the i, c. j stopped short of demanding a compensation for that action, which is a disappointment here in ukraine of the i. c. j also refusing to blame russia for the downing of m. 817. the malaysian outlines jet over ukraine, which ukraine had brought saying that they was clear evidence from international investigators and from ukraine itself that rushing back separate as well to blame using they say a russian that supplied miss out the i. c. j also rejected other claims of discrimination against s, nick tacos, and ukrainians in the occupied crime in peninsula with ukraine. of course, claiming that russia has sits systematically conducted a policy of discrimination in the antics crime may have since it to cobra in 2014 rub mcbride. i'll just say era keith step in protest outside of congress analogy and tina, that's politicians debates a controversial economic reform bill. police use pepper spray to tragically hundreds of demonstrators. trade unions cold for the mocked against the task. economic m

a repudiation with no i there was no concern. it was in no way in our mind. related to the i. c. j decision. all of us as a belgian co operation center in garza was destroyed by shutting the 9th. the attack follows brussels back king of last week's i. c, j decision goals for as well to implement the ruling in full, a belgium, minnesota last style to tennessee of football in residential areas. the office building of the belgian agency for development, cooperation in gaza, has been bombed and is completely destroyed. attacking civilian buildings is and remains totally unacceptable. together with hodge allow the belgian for administer . i will some, in the as really ambassador humanitarian, active se harris. so my believes that with global pressure mounting on as well the, the funding of putting right is no may a coincidence. it is wrong. came off with statements prior to i, c j saying that they do not believe that i c j will be really according to set that prophetic dismiss everything that the south african legal team brought to the i c j . but with the i c, j supported a lot of that notion and

incorporated into russia, at least under russians, low a minority rights and crime, a lots of things with the i. c j says that is not our matcher. so it is a victory, yes, and longer term, it could end up with ukraine having that recognition from the i c j that it did not commit genocide, gates, russian speaking ukrainians, and east of the country. something that then could be used to in kind of international negotiations when some kind of settlement comes to this rule. but it is a long way off, and it is a sort of small, kind of chink of light in there kind of broad, a picture which isn't too kind of rosy. can you create at the moment it has to be said though, that this case isn't being what's with the same intensity here in ukraine as what was the case. for instance, over the cause a case brought against israel by south africa. it is one of many cases that ukraine has against russia in parallel, in different uh, different jurisdictions, different platforms all about trying to force russia to explain itself to potentially get reparations to allow ukraine to get access to those hundreds of billions

but we had to do the list of and it surprised surprise within about a day of the i c. j, making the accusations as a plausible genocide case. to be honest, we have this piece of information coming out into the press. the thing i would say though, it's surprising to me because i'm right, has 0 tolerance policy tools, these new products, the father issues, we work with all major service, including german government. we see this as a partnership with the german government. so the finally a subsidy is being described is as much as the german government, it's what we have on right on these ecology frameworks as it is the start. well i'm and let me say sort of you, i just wanted to say they, but you're saying they're, you're yours. you're saying that the bidding process for, for all of of your team members, for all of your employees that, that vetting process was complete and thorough. that you don't have any doubts whatsoever, that some people may be able to slip slip through. ronnie's the tossed off list through the security council terrorism list, and that wasn't no match i

a flat. well 1st of all, on this question, oh the, i see, see the i c j i see accountability as a very broad campus. so yes, that's the i c j which is due to face to face between states that the licensee which can bring cases against individuals. but there's also the work being done in national geo sections just the day we had was yesterday we had a really in hollywood of on supplies. it's clear that they cannot make precious touchy recently down grades is the can nomic relationship with israel. so there are many other things getting all across the board, i think as far as a people gossip are concerned. i think the future is bleed. i think the while you have a situation where they in some actual community colleges want maya good in the united states, canada offer pad a on the one hand to continue supplying weapons, as well as diplomatic and political support to the united states. as you seem as in the security council, so the same time, the phone, the very organized, ation established by the united nations to bring the humanitarian release of the systems to these people though, i think there

do not believe that i c j will be really according to set that prophetic dismiss everything that the south african legal team brought to the i c j. but with the i c, j supported a lot of that notion and of how was that? yours diction. it seems very coincidental that a day or day all the same day or day later that is rock comes with planes of how it's one rest off being involved with different mazda tech and funding stuff. stuff it's, it's extremely coincidental on red relief. if it's in the cause of the main life blood and support for high is that right? they have over 13000 stops. and it's the main source of funds that are going to have. so um, so the to be too many people in the highs. uh, uh, extremely dependent on, on girlfriends. um and you know, if you're going to stop funds like that and you're not going to replace it with additional funds, that's going to have catastrophic impacts on the people of headsets. but you're talking about a situation we, it's not even under normal circumstances. we humanitarian aid. the need for a test for we doubled or tripled under normal circumstances. and the full you would expect a just to double or triple. and so cutting

so it can be read as a way to shoot the pension away from the i, c j, a general side in 3 mortar. and again, it could be able so seen as far as the by long spending export to these ro do. i mean, he made the agency, this is something that they expect, as i said to the post also agreement. this is something new. but at the same time, what shocks me is the it's not necessarily the maneuvering or symbol maneuvering from israel. what they find shocking is their response by member stage, because acting fast, one rock at the moment if he's big, substantial for medium, for honesty and seeing gaza, who are enjoying catastrophic leaving michelle helped me understand that those members things. because again, if it weren't even just in the united states, or if there's no just made the call and no one responded to, to the request the cut and the refunds, it would be less shocking. but again, we're talking about more than a dozen countries. suspending the funding before the investigation is completed. how do they, how does it justified? how do you make sense of it? it makes it cannot be justif

we can just give us a bit of an overview of what has happened at the i c j in the last 7 days a yeah, i mean these hearings are really unprecedented in scope and scale. no, a no with a hearing in the i. c, j is history is attracted so many countries and institutions to offer the opinion on israel is occupation. most of the countries 51 i have given oral testimony, 3 international organizations. most of them so far have said that the court should rule that the occupation is illegal of the over 5 days as well as occupation of the palestinian territories has faced unprecedented scrutiny before the judges of the world's highest court is what it is acting and has been allowed to act in complete disregard of international law that cannot continue. it is clear that is what else you need an occupation is also being administered in breach of the prohibition of the time pop up. la tate is royal, has been consistently ups truck thing negotiated to spit solution for how much longer do the palestinian people need to wait before they're able to exercise their legitimate rights under international l

first of all, there's a real awareness here that the i, c, j has no power as dental and vision um and uh, and uh, for the mentally is pretty widely ignored by countries to end up being rolled against a few years by c. j 2nd, leaders. so distracted by the extremely, a messy situation in gauze, which also of course attaches to a different case before the i c j, the really highest priority. the westbank in general is currently on the back burner. i think there's also a strong feeling in this role drugs of the west back issue is political and not so legal legal not, not so much of a matter of legalities, not understanding very well that there is a narrative um, especially the arbor, all the and one that has been adopted and much of certainly a developing world that would argue otherwise. but israel has a case that is truly more than a quibble. and i have examined the pretty closely as to why we have basically a situation of limbo that may be unfair to the palestinians. that may be messy for everyone that actually is dangerous for as well as well. but that isn't, it's a really clear kind o

what would be called a c, c j, which is a control commission to jim. so i was going out to show me 947. it's not true. sure . with a label attached to my current case. i got lost and we went to lift in handbook, and then 5 foot in the back. and so and then i was sent to school in films house, which is the front of a v, a u books box for the notes from the baltic command for the boat, hostage in the navy, as i used to move past 271. so in that we discovered spray plastic, so they'll probably go down the hall and stay that until right through managed to get into a certain school i, i'm misses out cuz i have a positive and plus anyway, because i've been attending school so i had no idea what color was doing, and there's always this expectation of adults where you catch up. you know, you don't know where the have you are. so the task because i have no idea where i was done. but i was in a sanctioning body in school, in stockton cut, long story, short. the best thing i could do front of me was off. that was quite special. i had thoughts, really and was my i

the message from the i, c j and, and put pressure on israel to, to halt it's been barred, meant and to at least take seriously the 6 orders of the i, c, j, in terms of protecting a civilians, unfortunately that has not happened. i totally agree with have. so in terms of her analysis on all of this, but we have to take the by the administration's hand wringing when it comes to nothing. yahoo with the sense of disingenuousness because in spite of in spite of the rhetoric the u. s. has continued to enable and every in every way, i mean, just 2 days ago, the us senate passed, you know, if 14000000000 dollar aid package to israel. now it still needs to go through the house, but that should tell you a lot. in spite of the ruling of genocide, this is where we are. rather when you look at post october, the 7th, you didn't, you don't get a sense of these, right? it really have a sense of clarity about how to move forward midtown, already or politically, because people are wondering why would these riley's decide now to go for an offensive in rough walk when everything got it is a stake. typically the talks which are behind closed doors to try to secure a political dean t

and as a thank you for being with us on up to 0. what do you expect from the i c j when it publishes its opinion? well uh we do expect uh, starting to decision on that with uh, with an end to the is it under the uh impunity uh allows for a clear accountability. uh, really takes away from uh is that the shields uh, in terms of, uh, uh, being accused of so many crimes that they have really committed over the years. uh is what it is. prolonged occupation has to be called knives. is riley colonialism and the, the, the, the system will up on the side has to be also recognized that the, such, we do expect a huge, if not, is sort of the decision that we, uh, expose, uh, is arrives reality on forces. uh so many countries that have been aligning themselves with as well to the, the points of the relationship and their position to us as well. but as, as we were hearing in the report, the court's opinion is law non legally binding. israel could ignore it as it has done before. are you hoping at the very least that the court's opinion will pressure is rails allies of the interna

c j. the obviously there is a huge amount of all k detail here, lots complex in this case. it is being welcome to oversee that. the i, c j is going to deal with this case is going to look into this, but there are, it has to be said, lots of things that ukraine wants to look at, which they say they don't have the jurisdiction for just the last few days. lots of you creating complaints about russian recognition of these breakaway republics that have since been incorporated into russia, at least under rush, low, a minority rights and crime, a lots of things with the i. c j says that is not our matcher. so it is a victory, yes, and longer term it could end up with ukraine having that recognition for me. i suggest that it did not commit genocide gates, russian speaking ukrainians, and east of the country. something that then could be used to in kind of international negotiations. when some kind of settlement comes to this rule, but it is a long way off and it is a sort of small, kind of chink of light in there kind of for, to pick to which isn't too kind of rosy. can you create a

it's a violation of the i c j into in the provisional measures which made it clear that no member state should take any action that would limit humanitarian aid. and very lastly, it's a violation potentially all the genocide convention, which makes it obligation to both parties to prevent genocide. so frankly, germany stands accused in my view of be complicit in a, in a violation of genocide convention and for come to like germany with its history. that is something which i think should be address. i think that should be an investigation into whether germany's humanitarian a was reading fence against political influence. and i think the justice of douglas, such as germany, pointing the finger on written saying, well, you'd be politicizing away. what about germany? germany is western icing on rook, and it's doing so let me say because it's really far out of politicians all calling for i'm going to be dismantled to be just found to be well, let me define this tickets but it's throwing. let me pick up on that. i mean, don't be there. all these calls weren't for unreturned, just to be disma

so in this case is before the i, c j basically have of course seen over the decades the situation hasn't improved. right? yeah. for the processing and people who have had a, an opinion from the i c. j before. uh huh. 20 years ago as well. has completely ignore the why do you think this time this case will make a difference? the situation again. number one, i want to respond 1st about the implementation with the just of the decision of the you and the solution. and i mention it again and again in almost every meetings that i have including during the t 20 for the ministers meeting. i mentioned above, please avoid doubles thunder. we step, we need the international law. we need to uphold it and implemented in a consistent manner. so to who would that you say, no double standards to all, to all of us? any anyone in particular may be do us secretary of state. i said to call before the to 20 meeting and also, but also in any meetings. because implementing the international in a consistent mentor because it's not happening right now. it's not happening. as you mentioned, there is the route before of the i c j. it did not mean of the application is not there. a

public opinion has changed a lot in europe in the last 2 months, at least, especially after the i c j's case, a genocide. i think that's taking effect of the domestic level at the policy level . and if we could turn to the i c j case and we're expecting to hear from south africa 1st of all today. but if we can go back to to mondays hearing what did you make of the palestinian prison? a presentation yesterday. but i think some of the really strong case about the apartheid and about the needs to stop unix ation. and for those states, recognize what this is and, and if there's no annexation then by listing and state who becomes a possibility, what, what stood out for you in particular, as part of that presentation. i mean, one of the thing was the, the motion was down. so the police need them boxes or no of course, but also that the fact that the entire wells, the box, the police didn't even close. and that's why we have all these organizations states that coming in a couple of david's, unprecedented to speak about, about the annexation here. well, i mean, we often talk about the internati

i think it's time that we re frame or a frame of reference, rethink our frame of reference and go to the i c j for example, or think about other ways. busy ending is a, the occupation of bringing to sort of re, to meaningful reconciliation is a design palestinians rather that there's 2 state solution that the americans of these areas i've been talking about as they continuously dismantled palestine. professor m c. c. i saw you knowing that you want to come in. absolutely. um, the point made about the new what i call the negotiations condition. i've written a great deal about this. and that the case that we protest basically fashioned around this idea. because the norms upon which the case is base, the peremptory norms or do not allow of any, any derogation at any moment in time. violation of the principle against the territorial conquest, the violation of the policy mean, peoples brain to self determination. the violation of the principle that you may not impose the regime of racial discrimination and a part time because these principles are non durable under international law. 3 team itself i

a lawyer is full. the government and russia approached the i. c. j telling the i c j that one there was a lot of floors and ukraine. so these and arguments, but also that support did not have jurisdiction of the dispatch. as the court has come back today, to say that indeed it does have jurisdiction on parts of this case. and so we all going to be hearing ukraine making its case in the months to come. i'll point out that this is also a victory for ukraine's wisdom allies who, who supported ukraine's case, who made formal submissions to the i. c. j. a saying that the case should go ahead . okay, splendid. christine moons the that in brussels. thank you very much, christine and we tons of the conflict in gaza. now if there is a growing of a new is really assault on the south of the strip following its intensive operation in central garza and con eunice israel's military, i suggested the plans to now advance the south to rough or close to the idiots in border around profit, so just to put the relation of 2300000 people. also with the salesman, he was a

and that's why we came to the a i, c j because, you know, we felt that the, that, that makes sense, you know, they cut off to perform in the same way. like, how do you have that really performed in, in uh, in the united admission system. russia a long time is for a ally, also participated in the case saying the occupation is illegal and should stop, but cannot accept the trick of those officials in these that are on some risk that i'm confident. what type of defense, the indiscriminate, the violence against civilians, by referring to is the duty to permit that. it's nationals. violence can only lead to more violence, hate threats and brings hated. this vicious circle must be broken and the rest of the security to both for isabel and the police. danielle can only be unsure if the course of the current crisis is addressed, but the russia did ask the court not to go into detail on as well as responsibility . taking a stage can only be brought to the world course by its own consent. after its invasion of ukraine in 2022, russia is itself involved in the case at the highest court. internatio

c. j is baseless. earlier my colleague, the rena obligate a spoke to francesca eben easy, the un special rap with her on the occupied palestinian territories. she says israel has ignored the i. c j's provisions and intensified its attacks. to respond so to the i. c. j provisional measures. as being quite shocking to me and not totally, not just or israel response, which has continued with the relentless attack mutare of talking a scar. so we're seeing the desperate populations server, which has survived the data for months over. ok. try this out there in displeased, injured traumatized. um but there's also be a lot cool responsiveness by the international community therapy. there is a significant number of countries which not only had not taken steps to prevent august explosively. the poor town consists of genocide uh there as being pressure instead on the right with the suspension of crimes. i'm wrong, she's the only a lifeline for the policy is remaining. the what about what's happening in enough off because it's pretty much a city of tents and refugees. there are more than one and a half 1000000 pale

a coincidence. given the recent i, c. j rolling is wrong, came off of statements prior to i, c j saying that they do not believe that i c j will be really according to separate prophetic dismissed everything that the south african legal team brought to the i c j. but with the i c, j supported a lot of that notion and of how was that? yours diction. it seems very coincidental that a day or day, well the same day or day later that is wrong. comes with claims of how it's one rest off being involved with different mazda tech and funding stuff. stuffing it's, it's extremely coincidental owner as a release if it's in the cause of the main life blood and support for high is that right? they have over 13000 stops, and it's the main source of funds that are going into highs. yeah. and so the to be 2000000 people in the highs. uh, uh, extremely dependent on, on girlfriends. um and you know, if you're gonna start funds like that, and you're not going to replace it with additional funds, that's going to have catastrophic impacts on the

a very good ceasefire in the immediate future. we cannot afford to wait until the summer when the judgment of the i c. j is out better on come out. come, brother, a professor insist was talking there about about the ongoing war in guns or of course, but the with south africa's genocide complained to the court center solely on, on guy. so this case is also looking at the, the occupied westbank, isn't it? um, yes it is. uh, as was just said the by the good professor, the situation and g as a horrible, unprecedented. so it is, is a symptom of a larger problem. and one of those problems the root causes of the problem is the legal occupation, but not just that it's the regime of apartheid and racial discrimination imposed on the past and in people as a. busy since 1948, wherever they are. and so the focus of this case is strategic. it's about looking at the region as a newer had mentioned earlier, and then the gallery of the regime imposed by israel, the occupying power on the palestinian people, primarily unoccupied, costing and territory though not exclusive to the, to now there's a difference between the

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