some of them believe in background checks but they didn't want to give obama a victory. and hassles said if the n.r.a. didn't score it, they would have had 70 votes instead of 54. >> well, the latter thing that you have said is probably more a reason. i don't think mitch mcconnell put out a dictate of how you should vote on this. i think it was... >> jon: hasn't that book come out though mcconnell, you guys were at a retreat. i think you were still in the senate. you were probably there and he said we're not going to cooperate with this administration. we're not going to give them any bipartisan victory. even a senator went on record at that meeting at the library of congress. you guys were in the basement of the library of congress. >> i don't think mitch ever meant to say we're never going to cooperate with president obama because he... >> jon: but... he didn't negotiate. he negotiated off the fiscal cliff. mitch mcconnell deserves a lot of credit. honestly he does. he and joe biden, yes. he and joe biden literally... >> jon: don't you think that has a resounding effect

and nonviolence proved to be, i think, a much more powerful weapon than violence. we felt victorious in a sense. >> reporter: a victory that was felt far beyond birmingham. the children's sacrifice helped pass the civil rights act the following year and forever changed the nation. michelle miller, cbs news, birmingham. >> and that's the "cbs evening news" for tonight. for all of us at cbs news all around the world, good night. the world captioning sponsored by cbs

we're not going to give the president a victory. we're going to defeat the president. 're going to defeat the president's attempt to take our guns. they lied to people. the bill, in fact, made a federal registry impossible because it made a creation of it a felony. they didn't want to give commonsense victory and they didn't want to give president obama a victory. frankly, that's disgusting. >> pat toomey, you were actually repeating what your colleague i guess from pennsylvania, mr. toomey, has said. >> that's right. it's not about winning or losing. it's about what is wrong for america. what's wrong with washington, d.c. is this. they are going to pay for it because people are getting fed up. and as i said when we talked about this earlier this week, the people who care about this issue are not going away this time. >> you know, joy, churchill, my hero, said in victory magnanimity. they believe in rubbing the guy's face in it. they have limited the end zone dance as something minimally triumphant now. these guys -- i hear it's going to go on all afternoon. sarah palin

a victory. their policy. they can have the policy. nobody at the time thought it should take effect. >> brown: miles o'brien reports from guatemala on the forensic science used to document charges of genocide that wiped out thousands of indigenous mayans in the early eighties. >> this skeleton shows evidence of four close range gunshot wounds to the head. the mans hands were tied behind his back: an execution.

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parade in the heart of russia's biggest cities as a country commemorates sixty eight years since a victory in world war two. cracks widen between china and japan with questioning the ownership of a group of violence piling pressure on an already sensitive territorial dispute. and growing worries over so-called benefits tourism and the e.u. four member states take steps to protect themselves against migrants from poor countries. you're watching r t coming to you live from the russian capital i'm marina josh and it's victory day in russia. a day of remembrance and celebration as russia marks the sixty eighth anniversary a victory over nazi germany salute some parades across the country are honoring the veterans of the bloodiest war in history as well as those who sacrificed their lives to liberate the world r.t. center a farmer was at the main military display on red square. it has been another precedent victory day parade here on red square it started with ten three marching in unison across his mind body setting and it is a day that has unified russia on the full blown soviet states busy d

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be proven clinch the final europa league place with a two nil victory at home to christen it up. put the hard side ahead seven minutes in and the press now whole added a second off to the era the visitors and the season ten. be off to their fourteen game unbeaten run came to an end last week to naama also just missed out on europe after a goal a stroll with volga however the point for the visit says was enough to see them finish twelfth and out of the relegation play offs. be finished this season eight and in style with a four one win at home to korea so vettel is a sell open for the hosts just before the break the louis company era equalised just offer it. up put through his i regret to make it to one thousand and thirty or forever and can do a comprehensive victory that saw korea finish third blossom and in the playoffs. if korea will be joined in that dogfight by rostov despite the three nil home win over champion said scout dimitri palos opened after ninety minutes quite a lot made it to nail on the stroke of half time timofei kalish of added a third early in the second half b

. >> we know that we're at the ruling coalition headquarters, a victory day, a victory celebration -- mainly because they got that, they went above the 212 votes that they needed, but it was not as close as they would have hoped. the prime minister expected to regain his two-thirds majority in the parliament, but they don't appear to be able to get in this. what is interesting about this election, is we saw these huge numbers, and we sought 10 million people, out of 13.3 million eligible voters, the biggest turnout ever for a general lection, so the people of malaysia saw that this was an important election, so moving forward the ruling coalition will stay in place and a lot of analysts say that the way this coalition will govern is going to have to change because there is such a strong opposition boys, even though they did not get enough votes. >> what is the reaction from anwar ibrahim, the opposition leader? >> he says that there is voter fraud, and that he will probably take legal action. we don't know exactly what his ofcution is going to be, out these accusations that there was

. >> this is a victory for scouting. it is a victory for gay youth -- they will no longer have to hide in the closets when the participating in the scout activities with their troops. it gives freedom and acceptance of gay youth in the scouting program. it is historic. >> but the decision has angered many americans. protesters picketed the hotel where the vote was held. the issue illustrates the deep rifts in public opinion on gay rights. some parents are threatening to remove their children from the scouts. that is despite the attempt to cushion the move by upholding the ban on gays california leaders. >> this resolution today dealt with youth. we have not changed our adult membership standards. they have served us well. those were not on the table. >> the fight goes on. the rights campaigners are calling this the first set. they about to carry on until the scouting movement excepts gaze of all ages. >> soccer news now. >> the two best german men's teams are preparing to battle it out in when the stadium on saturday. th

. >> this is a victory for scouting. it is a victory for gay youth -- they will no longer have to hide in the closets when the participating in the scout activities with their troops. it gives freedom and acceptance of gay youth in the scouting program. it is historic. >> but the decision has angered many americans. protesters picketed the hotel where the vote was held. the issue illustrates the deep rifts in public opinion on gay rights. some parents are threatening to remove their children from the scouts. that is despite the attempt to cushion the move by upholding the ban on gays california leaders. >> this resolution today dealt with youth. we have not changed our adult membership standards. they have served us well. those were not on the table. >> the fight goes on. the rights campaigners are calling this the first set. they about to carry on until the scouting movement excepts gaze of all ages. >> soccer news now. >> the two best german men's teams are preparing to battle it out in when the stadium on saturday. th

to me, it sounds more like a cop-out than a victory. >> then -- >> had you taken any kind of pills or anything? >> no. i was -- >> that was just you. >> yes. >> nathaniel jordan and mental health staff try to get to the bottom of his behavior. >>> justice. justice. >> nathaniel jordan arrived at the cuyahoga county corrections center in what appeared to be either a drug-induced behavior. two days later, he is exercising inside his cell and appears free of whatever condition afflicted him. but he does carry a reminder of the incident. >> tell me how you got that black eye. >> when i came up here, my mind kind of closed in on me, and i beat myself to a black eye and bloody nose. just punching myself, punching myself and punching myself. over and over again. >> jordan was taken into custody by a s.w.a.t. team after he was charged with attempted murder and robbery. he will soon be extradited to indiana, where he plans to plead not guilty. jordan says that his medical history may have been partly responsible for his behavior in intake. >> se

>> i wouldn't call it a victory of hope over reality. look, at the end of the day, we've got four dead americans. we've got a kid who's still in the hospital. we've got hundreds of embassies and consulates. thousands of people serving overseas. >> how about we work together then on that. >> we're going to give you a chance to work together offcamera before wednesday. thank you for giving us a very spirited preview. up next, president obama is rethinking whether to arm the syrian rebels >> israeli air strikes on targets near damascus. if so, it's the second israeli strike inside syria in three days. this comes one week after president obama walked back threats of a red line if the assad regime used chemical weapons. we want to discus all of this with senator john mccain, one of the gop's leaders on national security. and senator, welcome back. what do you say about the extensive air strike overnight? >> apparently the syrians and iranians have crossed a red line, to the israelis. that means weapons of advanced nature, probably missiles ha

third time may be the charm for pakistan's twice former prime minister who's declared it really a victory of the milestone general election after the vote was marred by violence following the country's bloodiest ever election campaign. a bad year for the french president francois hollande approval rating sinking to a record low as he marks twelve months in office with voters saying they're disillusioned over unemployment and continuing austerity. five m. in moscow i'm mad très i bring you today's top stories and a look back at the week's news at least nineteen people including two ten year olds have been injured during a shooting at a mother's day parade in new orleans and the f.b.i. spokesman says there's no indication the attack was any act of terrorism but there have been so far no arrests made artie's gaiety has the details. new orleans was celebrating mother's day with over three hundred people participating in a parade police say three individuals are believed to be responsible for starting a shootout two four of the wounded though are believed to be in critical condition another pu

parade in the heart of russia's biggest cities as the country commemorates sixty eight years since a victory in world war two. cracks wide between china and japan with beijing questioning the ownership of a group of islands piling pressure on an already sensitive territorial dispute. and growing worries over so-called benefits tourism in the e.u. four member states take steps now to fend off migrants from poorer countries we're a poor. fellow very good even if you just joined us this is our team my name is kevin and it is now just after eight pm this ninth of may victory day here in russia. just some of the scenes from earlier on so the day of remembrance and celebration is russia marks the sixty eighth anniversary of victory over nazi germany salutes and parades across the country have been honoring the veterans of the bloodiest war in history as well as those who sacrificed their lives to liberate the world through pharma was at the main military display on red square a little early. it has been another precedent victory day parade here on red square it started with ten three in unison acr

victory for his party. joining me from washington is a former pakistani government official. it is good to have you with us. let's get some of your reaction. we know the former prime minister nawaz sharif has declared victory in this election overall. imran khan has done. is this what you were expecting? wereis is close to what we expecting. no party has won even the simple majority. nawaz sharif and his muslim league have received the largest set of votes. they have about 110 seats out of 272. this has come out as the largest party. need in punjab. imran khan has done pretty well. i think nationalists are winning. nawaz sharif has earned some support. imran khan, been the leader of a new party, the kind of enthusiasm he has traded -- created it. ats.as won 45-50 se >> he was hoping to capitalize on the sense of disillusionment in pakistan with the two main parties including nawaz sharif. continuesring if he to emerge with a strong showing, imran khan. thel that nawaz sharif majority needs to rule? >> maybe in some elections. people have voted for the economy and experience. e

a big preparation for. capital what will be happening where you are at the center of red square finishes victory parade which commemorates the sixty eighth anniversary of the defeat of nazi germany and in a few minutes time ten times in the soldiers from across russia's armed forces will march in unison across this iconic setting that will be followed by an impressive display of russian hardware a hundred vehicles will be included in that involving personnel carriers to tanks and even those massive launches which you may have seen before and then it will be rounded off with a fly over involving over sixty aircraft including me twenty nine which will bring to a close what should be a magnificent but also very significant because. the whole of russia and of course former soviet states and in order only celebrates their victory. and fascism it also serves as a memory of the great human cost over twenty seven million soviets lost their lives during the great patriotic war i'm glad to say around two million more veterans are still here with us and many of them are here today and in fact some of them actually took

marina josh it's a day of remembrance here in russia as a country marks the sixty eighth anniversary a victory over a nazi germany the bloodiest war in history claimed sixteen million lives around half of them from the soviet union the memory of those who sacrificed their lives to liberate the world russia's preparing to observe a minute of silence. when you mind here when you minute turn go eat. those is moscow that are both good seats and that all new sun trilled t.v. and radio stations of russia are working. smut that eats you east you must. seriatim by the light of our great for memory. side the light of a love of eat that shit. city of the light of our dream which. led the names of the fallen shine in our memory for every. spoken let us recall that he bought this three years d.c. to meet once. others eighteen days. whatsit your great patriotic war claimed the twenty six million six hundred thousand lots each it is truly a wave that. spawned you let us remember spoke only of letters remember those who fought the enemy at the front of the way while those who fought in guerrilla detachments

>> i wouldn't call it a victory of hope over reality. look, at the end of the day, we've got four dead americans. we've got a kid who's still in the hospital. we've got hundreds of embassies and consulates. thousands of people serving overseas. >> how about we work together then on that. >> we're going to give you a chance to work together offcamera before wednesday. thank you for giving us a very spirited preview. up next, president obama is rethinking whether to arm the syrian rebels. senator john mccain weighs in on that and much, much more. yes she is, yes she is. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. 100% vegetable juice, with three of your daily vegetable servings in every little bottle. to fly home for the big family reunion. you must be garth's father? hello. mother. mother! traveling is easy with the venture card because you can fly airline anytime. two words. double miles! this guy can act. wanna play dodge rock? oh, you guys! and with double miles you can actuay use, you never miss the fun. beard growing conte and go!

>> i wouldn't call it a victory of hope over reality. look, at the end of the day, we've got four dead americans. we've got a kid who's still in the hospital. we've got hundreds of embassies and consulates. thousands of people serving overseas. >> how about we work together then on that. >> we're going to give you a chance to work together offcamera before wednesday. thank you for giving us a very spirited preview. up next, president obama is rethinking whether to arm the syrian rebels tdd: 1-800-345-2550 searching for a bank designed for investors like you? tdd: 1-800-345-2550 schwab bank was built with tdd: 1-800-345-2550 all the value and convenience investors want. tdd: 1-800-345-2550 like no atm fees, worldwide. tdd: 1-800-345-2550 and no nuisance fees. tdd: 1-800-345-2550 plus deposit checks with mobile deposit, tdd: 1-800-345-2550 and manage your cash and investments tdd: 1-800-345-2550 with schwab's mobile app. tdd: 1-800-3-2550 wder schwab bank has grown to over 70 billion in assets. tdd: 1-800-345-2550 so if you're looking for

also, a victory for pry vassy. a settlement won't allow a company to dictate how patients get their medicine and a power ball player comes forward to collect a prize. a cool $2 million. those stories and more coming up on abc 7 news at 6:00. >> that is exciting to see him come, take his money. >> $2 million. >> congratulations autos yes. >> cirque du soleil about to make a new splash in the bay area. >> yes. the members of cirque du soleil are teeming up with six flags discovery kingdom. >> about to dive into a new show at the golf and harbor stage. >> the new show called cirqe >>> this is "world news." tonight, shots fired. the dramatic new video of police taking down the london attacker. and tonight the remarkable women on the scene who defied those attackers in this bloody street. >>> storm front. violent weather rolling across america right before the big memorial day weekend, and a worrisome warning tonight about the coming hurricane season. >>> skyfall. imagine this, a plane flying over your house when pieces

in iraq have ended in the battle of iraq the united states and our allies have prevailed it was a victory speech before the battle was won on may first two thousand and three zachary ten years ago today a triumphant president bush landed on the u.s.s. lincoln and declared victory over saddam hussein and his allies the speech happened just two months after american troops stormed into the country a massive mission accomplished banner actually hung in the back but on the anniversary of this infamous speech let's take a look back at what the u.s. has actually accomplished in iraq and where the country stands today by the time president bush made this speech in this battle we have fought for the cause of liberty. and for the peace of the world. our nation and our coalition are proud of this accomplishment the u.s. had conducted a massive bombing campaign and engaged in skirmishes with iraqi troops the stated goal for entering this war were to topple saddam hussein and free the iraqi people with saddam hussein on the run in baghdad overrun by coalition forces president bush moved on to his nex

. >> it's a victory for scouting and a victory for gay youth. they won't have to hide in the closet. >> reporter: boy scoutt leaders say not everyone is inin favor of the inclusion of openly gay youth, but it's a step inin the right direction. >> i have to go through all of f this to put kids first. i believe this resolution is truly in the best interest ofof scouting and it allows us to serve you . you >> reporter: while gay youth will be permitted into the scout, gay leadership will not. the policy takes effect on june first. >>> the death of a man is beingg called a homicide. homic julian dawkins was killed afterr leaving a family party.y the deputy is a 17-year-old 17-e veteran with the force. he is on administer leave durinn the investigation. patterson has not been charged e in connection with the deadly shooting. >>> a montgomery county judge sentenced rick curl to 17 yearse in prison after he admitted to inappropriate encounters with wh kelly kurrin. kurr he looked her in the eye and apologized. currin was just 13 when the th abuse began

to me, it sounds more like a cop-out than a victory.> then -- >> had you taken any kind of pills or anything? >> no. i was -- >> that was just you. >> yes. >> nathaniel jordan and mental health staff try to get to the bottom of his behavior. [ male announcer] surprise -- you're having triplets. [ babies crying ] surprise -- your house was built on an ancient burial ground. [ ghosts moaning ] surprise -- your car needs a new transmission. [ coyote howls ] how about no more surprises? now you can get all the online trading tools you need without any surprise fees. ♪ it's not rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. why are 8 million people why are 8 million people sleeping better tonight? they went to a sleep number store. the only place in the world you'll find the sleep number bed with dual air technology. it allows each of you to adjust to the support your body needs. you'll only find sleep number at one of our over 400 stores nationwide, where queen mattresses start at just $699. and for those who sleep hot or cool,

to me, it sounds more like a cop-out than a victory. >> then -- >> had you taken any kind of pills or anything? >> no. i was -- >> that was just you. >> yes. >> nathaniel jordan and mental health staff try to get to the bottom of his behavior. the recent increase in cafeteria prices is not cool. when you vote for flo, we'll have discounts. ice-cream discounts. multi-cookie discounts. pizza loyalty discounts! [ kids chanting "flo!" ] i also have some great ideas on car insurance. [ silence ] finding you discounts since back in the day. call or click today. i like her. >>> justice. justice. >> nathaniel jordan arrived at the cuyahoga county corrections center in what eye period to be either a drug-induced behavior. two days later, he is exercising inside his cell and appears free of whatever condition afflicted him. but he does carry a reminder of the incident. >> tell me how you got that black eye. >> when i came up here, my mind kind of closed in on me, and i beat myself to a black eye and bloody nose. just punching myself, punching mys

. >> yeah, we were a victorious nation and a wealthy nation, and we could afford to give the next of kin in 1947 a one-time option of whether to repatriate your dead soldier or to leave them overseas in two dozen american battle monument cemeteries. quartermaster form thr345, you check this box and check the next box and 70% had their sons repatriated, 30% left them overseas and there were 41 death ships ultimately from the pacific and from european theater who brought the remains that had been exhumed, tens of thousands, ultimately, a couple hundred thousand sets of remains, back to new york and san francisco. and then these caskets are winched off the ships two at a time, especially designed slings, and a great diaspora of the dead, mostly by train going to their hometowns for burial or to national cemeteries. it's an extraordinarily powerful moving several months in our history. >> you said something else that struck me, which is about the notion of how far soldiers are from the rest of us, the emotional connection. you've also chronicled our more modern wars in iraq and afghanist

unrest in the run up to its election held over the weekend the preliminary broad count points to a victory for former prime minister nawaz sharif recently returned from exile. meanwhile europe opposition protesters armed with torturers clashed with security forces on board through police lines during post-election don't stray showers involved various capital just hours before the election three hundred fifty thousand fake ballots was seized while voter turnout at fifty percent members of the opposition to work contesting of reliable results which gave the four prime minister's party a victory to step down and leave corruption allegations mounting economic turmoil just two months ago. and up next piece of ours gaston cross-talk discusses the ins and outs of u.s. foreign policy and how it affects conflicts across the planet. the illusion of safety trumping you're right seems to be the main political theme of post nine eleven america and no one is pushing the keep you safe at any cost more than new york billionaire mayor michael bloomberg who recently had to defend his stop and frisk strategy

by a victory i don't mean that assad stays forever i mean by that i would define it he stays till the two thousand and fourteen election and let's see what. kerry come up with in terms of a solution but i think right now it's real it is concerned they would like as our guest said to take advantage of this of course but it's not clear the going to get an opportunity hezbollah in my neighborhood i live right in the middle of the security it's all a half mile from where that mortar hit the other day more and more people are joining hezbollah sure they've got their detractors but this you're seeing. from the air of national loss as an opportunity to repel the design house american project and so you see here to topple the regime and to build up the arab nationalism and bring back into the air i well you know franklin they will say this is the states this is their say here but this is a sectarian difference to dan when you jump in and we talk about that. those who were there were saying listen i think your missing the terror of your single point here it's going to damage the earth that was

bush gave his mission accomplished accomplished speech he was declaring a victory in iraq and it turns out that was premature look at what's happened inside iraq a decade later. and more rasta in the boston marathon bombings police have reported that three minutes the suspects have been apprehended we'll tell you what police are saying about the suspects just ahead. well it's wednesday may first pm in washington d.c. i'm mark held you're watching our. starting off this hour may day international workers rights day already as it's known under what a day earlier from greece to turkey to europe and on p. all walks of life are making their way onto the person current economic and as well as workers right now historically associated with the labor movement this day is comes with a compass many causes here in the u.s. under the umbrella of the occupy movement like wall street reform and immigration which have taken center stage now for more on this may day is past and present joining me now in d.c. our teas producer rachel kersey s n n los angeles archie correspondent. rachel starting with y

to me, it sounds more like a cop-out than a victory.>> then -- >> had you taken any kind of pills or anything? >> no. i was -- >> that was just you. >> yes. >> nathaniel jordan and mental health staff try to get to the bottom of his behavior. you suggested luxury car service instead of "strength training with patrick willis." come on todd! flap them chicken wings. [ grunts ] well, i travel a lot and umm... [ male announcer ] at visa signature, every upgraded experience comes from listening to our cardholders. visa signature. your idea of what a card should be. so, i'm working on a cistern intake valve, and the guy hands me a locknut wrench. no way! i'm like, what is this, a drainpipe slipknot? wherever your business takes you, you can save money with progressive commercial auto. [ sighs ] [ flo speaking japanese ] [ shouting in japanese ] we work wherever you work. now, that's progressive. call or click today. has oats that can help lower cholesterol? and it tastes good? sure does! wow. it's the honey, it makes it taste so... well, woul

intelligence committee member saxby chambliss wrote the president's speech will be viewed by terrorists as a victory adding we are changing course with no clear operational benefit. while the president argued against the notion of what he called a boundless global war on terror, he did not say the threat is gone, only that it's changing. >> lethal yet less capable al qaeda affiliates, threats to diplomat facilities and businesses abroad, home-grown extremists, this is the future of terrorism. we have to recognize that the scale of this threat closely resembles the types of attacks we faced before 9/11. >> the republican chairman of the house homeland security committee responded. the obama administration's return to a pre-9/11 counterterrorist mindset puts american lives at risk. the war he says will continue whether the president acknowledges it or not. the author of that statement, congressman michael mccaul is next. [ male announcer ] this store knows how to handle a saturday crowd. ♪ [ male announcer ] the parking lot helps by letting us know who's coming. the carts keep everyone on the right tr

we're not going to give the president a victory. we're going to defeat the president. they lie to people. the bill in fact made a federal registry impossible because it made it a creation of a felony. it actually strengthened their position, but they lied because they didn't want to give common sense victory and they didn't want to give president obama a victory. frankly, that's disgusting. >> you were actually repeating what your colleague i guess from pennsylvania, mr. toomey, had said on the record. >> no question. it's disgusting. this isn't about the president, about him winning or losing. it's about what's right for america and what's wrong with washington, d.c. is exactly what these guys are saying and they're going to pay for it because people are getting fed up. the people who care about this issue are not going away this time. >> you know, joy, churchill, my hero, in victory, mag nemty. i mean, this is the -- not the nba, the nfl has sort of limited the end zone dances to something minimally triumphant now. you can't put on an entire performance, but these guy

we're not going to give the president a victory. we're going to defeat the president. 're going to defeat the president's attempt to take our guns. they lied to people. the bill, in fact, made a federal registry impossible because it made a rekricreationt a felony. they didn't want to give commonsense victory and they didn't want to give president obama a victory. frankly, that's disgusting. >> pat toomey, you were actually repeating what your colleague i guess from pennsylvania, mr. too many toomey, has said. >> that's right. it's not about winning or losing. it's about what is wrong for america. they are going to pay for it because people are getting fed up. and as i said when we talked about this earlier this week, the people who care about this issue are not going away this time. >> you know, joy, churchill, my hero, said in victory magnanimity. they believe in rubbing the guy's face in it. they have limited the end zone dance as something minimally triumphant now. these guys -- i hear it's going to go on all afternoon. sarah palin is going to do one of these things

for the activists definitely a victory and even as you point out i mean this is even farther than any of the ag outline i mean just standing on a public sidewalk simply filming a down animal being pushed by a tractor is shocking talk about the seriousness of these laws because miers case was dismissed which is great but what is the extent of the penalties if someone is charged under this legislation. well the penalties vary from state to say sometimes it's little as two hundred fifty dollars in fines other times it could be up to five years imprisonment depending on what state you're in some states go as far as saying that individuals that film undercover footage and pass it off to journalists could. we registered as terrorists and that's some of the most chilling language as you hear within these laws but in order to understand these laws fully you kind of have to go back to the template that they were built upon and that template was written in two thousand and three by the american legislative exchange council and they penned a law at the time called the animal ecological terrorism

it was a victory in a battle, but the war continues. >> and there is more evidence this morning that the politics of this are changing. a poll shows that voters are more likely to support democrats kay hagan and mary landrieu, both in conservative states, because of their vote for background checks. >>> and then there was this moment in tucson. >> i would like to thank you so much for your vote. >> after that town hall meeting, that woman, pat simon, and other survivors of the shooting in tucson, presented senator john mccain with roses, 19 of them. 13 for the people who were injured, including gabby giffords, six for the people who died. i want to bring in nbc's casey hunt at the nra convention in houston. she's been covering the gun debate extensively. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, chris. >> "usa today" poll showed how attendance at these meetings is going back up. if they get to 80,000, which they expect, it would be a new record. is that kind of a microcosm of the passion of the opposition that president obama, vice presi