. >> wait a minute, a.b. four out of the five bills out of the house -- or out of the congress are for the public option. so i will say that we've got great momentum. finish your answer. >> not over yet. >> okay. in terms of getting votes for a bill that actually becomes law, that will be a different question, ed. now, back to jimmy carter, obviously jimmy carter is an important person and they're not going to come out -- robert gibbs, the president's spokesman did try to come out and disagree politely with that statement. it is exactly what they do not need. it fuels the fire. after this week of -- one solid week of joe wilson, they really want to move on and this is exactly what they don't need. >> panel, great discussion tonight. a.b., we're going reconciliation. we're going to get this done. public option is going to be there. >> mistake, big mistake. >> no, no, no, no, no. we're playing for keeps. we're playing for keeps on this deal. >> not going to happen. >> it's a win or take all. we're going to chan

a.b. stoddard, associate editor for the hill and john fury, republican strategist.t me start with you. actually, i want to play this sound cut from bill cosby who just did an interview. he was talking about the behavior of the congress toward president obama. this is bill cosby. i want you to respond to this. >> i've seen politicians disagree with each other and call each other by the name of mister, wait their turn, and then speak. i've seen people who couldn't stand each other have manners and this does not exist. people seem to know that they were going to be on camera, they seem to be acting, you know what i mean? texting, pretending that they were falling asleep and having pieces of paper they were waving. i am not seeing this. >> john, want to get your comment on that. >> i've been on the house floor when president bush gave the speech and i do think that at the end of the day there was plenty of times where there was bad activity on both sides. i think that what congressman joe wilson did was unacceptable. he apologized immediately to the president. i think i

bret: a.b.e heard from the white house today through a reporting of major garrett that he will offer support for the public option. >> right. bret: how does that move the ball? >> they just couldn't dump it before tonight. i mean, the feel something that they need to come out and say, as he said before, it's a nice egg in the basket of options. bret: the government-run health insurance. >> the public plan is a way to bring choice and competition. it's not the only way. that's what they continue to say. you saw in the abc interview this morning, and in many interviews with his staff the same language they use, that there they are not drawing a line in the sand is what they're saying in so many words. it is not the only way. i think he should come out today -- tonight, and press not only the right, as i'm sure he will, but press the left, and say, you know, these all or nothing threats really have to stop here. we have to move forward. if we can't get a public option, we might want one, but we can

bret: a.b., this is a challenge. he still has to deliver on specifics. >> that's right. this is his last speech. he can't do this again. you can't pull this card again. there will be no more televised speeches or prime time press conferences on health care reform. this is really his last moment on this. bret: ok. this is the cabinet introduction. again, the whole thing is running behind schedule and you will see an introduction prior to the introduction of president obama. steve, when you look at all he has to get done in this speech, the concern is really within democrats. there is all this talk about republicans and how they don't have plans. the republican study committee put out a list tonight right before the speech of 35 bills that are out there so far in the 111th congress. it's about democrats, convincing democrats. >> i think that's exactly right. look, the president is going to say tonight that he wants participation from republicans. he is looking for constructive advice as to how to reform the healthcare system. i think the problem is he has had it. he has ha

bret: a.b., this is a challenge. he still has to deliver on specifics. >> that's right. this is his last speech. he can't do this again. you can't pull this card again. there will be no more televised speeches or prime time press conferences on health care reform. this is really his last moment on this. bret: ok. this is the cabinet introduction. again, the whole thing is running behind schedule and you will see an introduction prior to the introduction of president obama. steve, when you look at all he has to get done in this speech, the concern is really within democrats. there is all this talk about republicans and how they don't have plans. the republican study committee put out a list tonight right before the speech of 35 bills that are out there so far in the 111th congress. it's about democrats, convincing democrats. >> i think that's exactly right. look, the president is going to say tonight that he wants participation from republicans. he is looking for constructive advice as to how to reform the healthcare system. i think the problem is he has had it. he has ha

a.b. stoddard, columnist with "the hill" newspaper. what disagreement might be happening in the walls of the white house whether to agree to general mcchrystal's request for more troops? >> there is a robust debate in the white house and really splitting the top minds on the issue. you have vice president joe biden lining up with chief of staff rahm emanuel, with jim jones, with general colin powell and several democratic senators like john kerry who are saying before any kind of even to be even contemplate an increase in troops there, we must really clarify the mission and refine the strategy, so let's not even think about the number of troops until we come up with a new mission, very clarified, very clear strategy. and then we can ask general mcchrystal if he believes that with a new strategy we should increase the level of troops there. and that is -- you have on the other side of course hillary clinton, secretary of state and richard holbrooke and others obviously general mcchrystal advocating for an increase of force right away or

a.b., i'll go with you first.is just a political strategy boehner is saying that health care reform is dead, it isn't going to pass? do you think he really believes this isn't going to go anywhere? >> i think he believes the republicans can give health care a terrible tile on the house side. things are looking very chaotic over there. the bills are over $1 trillion. the president says he wants $9 billion. they have rejiggering to do. i think the republicans will be hardening their opposition because they see the white house doesn't want to use this procedure called reconciliation to pass this, which, of course, ed, you want them to use. that they're looking at a 60-vote strategy. senator olympia snowe of maine is sounding like she would want to work with the democrats more than she wants to back away. again, we don't have a final plan on the table but i think you're going to see republicans counting these votes saying, wow, if you hold 59 and fill the massachusetts seat and have olympia snowe you get 60. >> would

bret: a.b.? >> i do agree with brit that he was much stronger tonight in addressing the needs, how this would focus on the needs of not only the uninsured but the insured and how it would bring more security and stability to people who have insurance and might lose it and don't know what their policy holds because they haven't gotten sick. bret: did he deliver? >> he was not specific enough how it gets paid for and when he spoke about the government option, the government health care program he said less than 5% of americans would sign up and be sustained by the payments on premiums, if you had only 5% of the people in it couldn't be sustained on premiums. it doesn't sound reasonable to me. >> you can't insure 30 million more people or 45 and give better coverage to those who have insurance and lower cost all at the same time. people fundamentally understand that. bret: so, did he deliver? >> i think he didn't. i think it was short on details. we didn't hear enough about payments and you can't re

bret: a.b.? >> i do agree with brit that he was much stronger tonight in addressing the needs, how this would focus on the needs of not only the uninsured but the insured and how it would bring more security and stability to people who have insurance and might lose it and don't know what their policy holds because they haven't gotten sick. bret: did he deliver? >> he was not specific enough how it gets paid for and when he spoke about the government option, the government health care program he said less than 5% of americans would sign up and be sustained by the payments on premiums, if you had only 5% of the people in it couldn't be sustained on premiums. it doesn't sound reasonable to me. >> you can't insure 30 million more people or 45 and give better coverage to those who have insurance and lower cost all at the same time. people fundamentally understand that. bret: so, did he deliver? >> i think he didn't. i think it was short on details. we didn't hear enough about payments and you can't re

a.b. stoddard, columnist with the hill newspapers. good morning. >> good morning. >> tens of thousands. has there been a total number given yet? you know if the park police said how many were there? marching down pennsylvania avenue? >> in "the washington post" our hometown paper here it said many tens of thousands. we don't have a specific number. >> then it could be pushing up to 100,000. if you look at just the crowd we had a view yesterday, it was enormous. were you surprised by this turnout? >> no, i'm really not. i think that if you look at the genocis of this, anti-obama sentiment building early on and reaction to our economic woes and government intervention in the form of a $787 billion stimulus package, by april you had fired up grass roots activist population coming to tea parties and opposing, you know, the wall street bailout, the auto bailouts, aig bonuses, the stimulus package, et cetera. this is built through the summer. they are more organized. people are getting more frus

a.b. stoddard, editor of the hill.tinguished fellow at the heritage foundation. ernie, don't tell me a government agent is going to get between me and the doctor? you know that's not true. >> the idea of government having an insurance company that competes with private insurance companies is like putting a rabbit in a cage with a wolf. >> what is it right now? ernie, what it is right now? you have got obscene profits, gouging going on. a little competition could change that. the insurance industry isn't going to reform itself. >> if you look at the profits, the average profitability of health insurance companies is like 3.5% return on investment. it's way down the list if you look at "forbes" or "fortune" with the list of most profitable companies. there are a lot of tricky statistics used. let's not do this by attacking the insurance companies. the big difference is this, 260 million americans have health care insurance and don't want it to be jeopardized. >> the president says you can keep it. >> your employer picks

he would walk in his next a.b. top of the seventh, still 7-1.olby rasmus is going to smash one up and get out. 16th of the year. rasmus goes 3-4 in the game. and the cards win a laugher. >>> the cubs have been better in september by a little but right now their only role is prolonging the wait of st. louis to get into the playoffs. derrek lee has been spectacular since july 1. here, the pitch gets up and in. and ryan theriot tries to score. jason kendall overthrows the home plate. and the brewers are looking like chico's bail bonds at this point. the cubs are up 6-0 and now up 7-0. as derrek lee has done it again. 35th of the year. not the cubs' year but lee has been super. 3-4, two doubles, a home run, a couple of r.b.i.'s. ryan braun here, deep into center. but tyler colvin will make a home run-robbing grab or so it appears. let me see that one more time. that would have made it 7-4. the brewers only get one in the inning and the cubs win it by the score of 7-2. >>> still to come on "sportscenter," zack greinke can bring the heat. but can he b

one was union violence, liberal violence against a.b an elderly black man in missouri, they beat him up. and the tea party in california. >> geraldo: we are getting a bit far afield there. >> you are the one who raised the hitler mustache. >> geraldo: one williams, this is a constituency who voted unanimously for the president and yet the urban aagain da has take and back seat. the hispanics voted two to one for this president. the immigration agenda has take and way back seat. how much patience is there in urban america for the president to finally recognize the constituent groups that put him in office? >> he is still a rock star in the black and hispanic community, there is no question about it. tonight i thought you saw him say i'm trying to make some basic steps and pretty much all along in his administration when is go asked what are you doing for black or latino america, he says i'm helping all america. he speaks in the larger transracial terms. he really wasn't a member of the black caucus when he was a senator. they have all come along because he is the president now and the

steve hayes with "the weekly standard" and a.b.ddard of the hill and syndicated columnist, charles krauthammer. charles, the president spoke today and today he was at the u.n. security council. what did he accomplish? >> nothing. this is surreal. as we speak, the irraunians -- the iranians are developing uranium and the american delegate at iaea announces that iran has enough uranium to construct a bomb. they are testing miss missiles, flouting all u.n. resolutions as are the north koreans and the response of america, the president of the united states, on camera, of course, presides over a perfectly useless meeting of the security council and passes a perfectly useless resolution airly declaring the end of nuclear weapons. look, my model u.n. in high school was more real es stick than this security council. the resolution as you pointed out, isn't even binding, and the problem is that the assumption of of obama is that the reason that these rogue states are assuming nukes is because we have not led by example rather than the obvio

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baucus' plan has a co-op and a.b. said this is going to change. what do you think we'll see?hink what senator schumer said last night was important. we've heard a lot of people griping about the bill, raising objections to it within the democratic party. but after this closed door meeting with just finance committee democrats, chuck schumer and senator baucus came out later and said we're going to pass a bill next week that can get 60 votes on the senate floor. which is so important in terms of understanding their strategy because that means we may see amendments on the public option possibly, we may see amendments on other on the progressive wing of the republican party but some strategy they will not allow essentially amendments to pass in committee that could hurt the chances of getting 60 votes for the bill on the senate floor. so in a lot of ways, they are developing a strategy that will not allow, you know, single amendment to torpedo the chances of getting consensus on the senate floor after that. >> ladies, thank you both. >> thank you. >>> one of the most famous form

now, the question comes is there a.b an alternative to ths long-term comprehensive full-blown counter insurgency strategy which he has laid out? i hope there is because i do not believe the american people want to be in afghanistan for the next ten years effectively nation building, building schools, building a government, building -- >> chris: let me pick up on this and i know this is something that you feel strongly about, senator. should general mcchrystal be called to testify before congress or wait until after the strategy review which is what secretary of defense gates says? >> we waited too many months now and he said it is chris cal. i think that general mcchrystal presented a view point that has been thoroughly discussed with all the people on the ground based on what is happening. i believe anything short of fully resourcing counter insurgency strategy with additional troops, a change in philosophy, a change to focus on the local areas. >> chris: and the leadership hasn't decided what to do? >> because we are part of that process as well. and i think the american people dese

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