a.g. garland will give us any explanation on any of those fronts? he could be just making a plain statement to go on the record since he has not yet. >> he could and we are going to be super disappointed if that's what he does in the next few minutes because we have so many unanswered questions, and as journalists we want to dig into. the warrant is out there, christina bob, an attorney for the former president, she said they were pushed away, not allowed to watch as the raid was carried out, but they were given a warrant, regular process. when they were done she got a copy of it. as we have told folks it does no the have all the juicy underlying stuff. won't have the affidavits, all the things the magistrate judge was showed and told to be the persuasive point for the warrant. whether the doj wants to release that or not, there are multiple legal requests in with that federal magistrate to release more materials attached to the warrant. what the trump team would have is very basic. what they are searching for, the parameters of that and the statute

a.g. garland speaking out. jonathan? >> hi there, charles. because it's so hot and humid, a handful of trump supporters were out hire. most come out in the evening. those that were here seemed to have a positive reaction to this latest development today. trump supporters do not like what happened here on monday, but the idea of monday transparency perhaps being able to get a glimpse of this search warrant and property receipt will shed more light on the thinking behind the federal government coming in and looking for these items at the resident of former president trump. i talked to one gentleman on camera moments ago. let's take a listen. >> i thinking they didn't expect the backlash that they had from everybody in the united states doing something so radical. people are really mad. people are concerned. if they can do that to an incredible person like the ex-president, they can do it to you and me. >> are you glad these documents will be unsealed? would you like to see what is in them? >> 100%. we pay for the salaries. we need to see everyt

a.g. garland: this is all i ca say at this time. lewis: merrick garland, u.s.ney general, leaving the stage. a -- a very brief set of remarks, laying out all he could with relation to the search of former president donald trump's home in florida this wk. we can cross now to our correspondent gary o'donoghue in washington. what do you make of that? gary: it is pretty unprecedented. what you are going to see quickly now is what he calls the unsealing of the search warrant at what he calls the property receipt. so, we will see the warrant used to conduct that search of mar-a-lago, the president home -- the president's home, on monday. it is not clear to me how much detail will be on that ward. will it specify what crime is in queson? i think it probably has to come so we will see what kind of thing they will -- thing they were pursuing coming a relation to which laws, and we will also see this property receipt. now, that is mnt to detail what they took in the search. the question is, how much detail? it may not be specifying this or that document. they may say x n

a.g. garland: that afternoon. since i became attorney general, i am made clear that the department would speak through its court filings and work. the justice department failed to receive a property receipt related to a court-approved search the fbi conducted earlier this week. the search was a premises located in florida belonging to the former president. the department did not make any public statements on the day of the search. the former president publicly confirmed the search that evening as is his right. copies of both the warrant and the fbi property receipt were provided on the day of the search to the former president's counsel who was on site during the search. the search warrant was authorized by a federal court, upon the required finding of probable cause. the proffering -- the property receipt is a document that federal law hires law enforcement agents to lease with the property owner. the department filed the motion to make public the warrant and receipt in light of the over president's -- the former

a.g. garland banned political appointees from participating which reads we must maintain public trust and ensure politics in fact and appearance does not compromise ap appearance of our work and timothy thibault breaks his silence. firmly believe any investigation will show his decision-making were not impact by political bias or partisanship of any kind. the former president and his legal team not buying any of it. >> they are coming forward saying there ortega something wrong with what ortega happening in the fbi, i commend them and encourage them to come forward, merrick garland saying you can't speak to congress, i find that ironic, january 6, had no knowledge. >> marianne: trump's team not alone in criticism of the fbi and doj, more republicans are demanding answers and trans transparenty. >> todd: here ortega senator lindsey graham's take. >> after the clinton debacle when she was secretary of state, people will lose faith in law enforcement. you don't hear the president talking about the pooib telling social media his son's laptop ortega a bunch of russian disinformation and it tur

a.g. garland: i am going to dot -- doug: i'm going to dodge a question and go back to the recession issue. don't think we are in a recession. i want to be clear -- a recession is a sustained, broad decline in economic activity. we don't have the breath of decline that qualifies as a recession. it is hard to imagine a recession with the labor market adding 500,000 jobs in a month. that doesn't like a recession. we have signs of problems, no question. the fed has been honest about the fact that raising rates, as it must to deal with inflation, could produce a recession. they would prefer not, they would like to get a soft landing. but history is against them. odds of pulling it off are low, so we may enter a recession late this year, early next year. i don't think that is an unreasonable expectation, but the doom and gloom at the moment is overstated. but midterms are typically bent for a sitting president. opposition typically takes over, you get changes in control. most people, when you look at the polling, name the economy and inflation is the number-one issue. the economy -- the environm

a.g. garland including impeachment and house minority leader kevin mccarthy says attorney general garlandreserve your documents and clear your calendar. garland, and justice department employees have been promised independence from this president. >> your loyalty is not to me. it's to the law, the constitution, the people of this nation to guarantee justice. >> but even some democrats are calling for an explanation. former new york governor andrew cuomo tweets don must immediately explain the reason for its raid and it must be more for a search for inconsequential archives political tactic and undermine any future and legitimacy of january 6th investigation. they are worried biden is weaponizing the justice department against political opponents though biden himself has said he would welcome facing trump again in 2024. >> i would be very fortunate if i had that same man running against me. >> is this administration weaponizing the justice department and the fbi against political opponents? >> peter, the president believes in the rule of law. >> i thought that was the answer no question th

a.g. garland took this extraordinary move?e knows what is in that search warrant and he knows how serious it is? or is it for some other reason? >> well, i think there's primarily guided by whether or not there's compelling public interest. t and you mentioned that's standard and there is within department guidelines this idea that when there are cases of public interest that dictates whether or not you should speak to something. i think he was certainly aware that given the significance of the event -- again, we're also stunned over the past three or four days to just step back and say the fbi searched the residence of a former president still shocks. so, based on that, i think appropriately my guess is he zuded it was appropriate to say something, particularly in light of -- i mean, there were senators. there are senators, united states senators, claiming or suggesting that fbi agents perhaps were planting evidence. people who should know better, responsible people who set the tone of discourse in the american public discour

a.g. garland should be doing next. what are you hearing? >> he's under a lot of pressure, even from inside his own department. there are people, we are told, who wish he could say more, at least give a statement, push back on some of these outlandish claims. paul is absolutely right. as i check in with department of justice sources on this, what i'm hearing is merrick garland is standing firm on this policy because he believes it's the right thing to do. what happened with james comey was the wrong thing and the department of justice inspector general chastised comey for doing that, about speaking out about a pending criminal investigation into hillary clinton's emails. he said it cast a pal over the fbi and merrick garland doesn't want to fall into that trap, jose. >> vaughn hilliard, meanwhile, there at mar-a-lago, what's the situation there today? >> reporter: there's only a few people that remain outsidemar-a. we saw hundreds of folks there wednesday, folks flying in from around the country in supposed defense of donald trump. mar-a-lag

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a.g. garland: the supremacy clause is a decision made in the constitution of the united states.al law invalidas state laws that are in direct contradiction. this has nothing to do with anything that the supreme court said and certainly nothing to do with going around the supreme court. judy: the idaho law bans abortions after 6 weeks of pregnancy. the u.s. has hit russia with yet more sanctions, including a woman linked romantically to president vladimir putin. aleena kabbah-yay'va runs a media company that has promoted the war in ukraine. she now faces a freeze on her u.s. visa and other penalties. also today, the first ship carrying ukrainian grain arrived off istanbul, turkey. turkish and u.n. officials will inspect the cargo tomorrow. back in this country: president biden has tested positive for a fourth day after his covid-19 infection rebounded. the white house physician also said today that the president has a mild cough again, but does not have a fever. under cdc guidelines, mr. biden is required to remain in isolation at least through thursday. and, on wall street, stoc

a.g. garland make the right move by seeking to unseal this warrant? >> i think he did.e's in a situation where the usual practice which is to simply say nothing about an ongoing investigation really became untenable when trump himself decided to disclose the fact of the search and start saying things that were true that made all sorts of salacious allegations and i thought the attorney general's press conference or statement, it wasn't a conference, it was very short. it was very targeted and it was a few specific things that i think give reasonable people comfort about the business-like way that this is being done and ultimately puts the question to donald trump whether or not if he wants to talk about what went on and he wants to talk about the basis and why not disclose the documents on which this search was predicated and the list of documents or items that were found and taken it seems to me he handled it just right, and he didn't go off and start doing what attorney general barr did in lots of substance of an instances which is talk about the substance of an ongoi

a.g. garland who he -- who admits he personally signed off on the execution of that search warrant.aid, which could be released as soon as today. >> brian: former federal prosecutor bred tolman joins us now. he had his bluff called. what do you think we are going to see today when we look at this warrant and look possibly at what items were taken? >> look they say a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich another phrase out there there is a judge for every search warrant. what we are going to see is the justification for a search warrant that was put together by the department of justice and then presented to a judge that was friendly. they have son-in-law complete control over which judge they are going to present it to. they just wait for the one that's up at that moment and then present it. >> steve: so we will probably see the search warrant sooner than later. the big question is how much it may be redacted if anything. what we really want to see. what we really need to see is the affidavit. because that's like a menu. that's where the department of justice says okay. this, this, t

a.g. garland yesterday but not a clear explanation to what spurred all of this.ing coming into question, we know the judge signed off on this warrant on august 5th, it gave the fbi authority to conduct the search or raid or whatever you are calling it on or before august 19th, 2022, 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m., so folks will look at the timeline, could they have carried this out, it was a friday it was signed off on, could it have been carried out if it was so urgent, saturday or sunday, it happened monday morning around 9:00 a.m. the statement from the president, i'll get you to react to that to your point just now. number one, the former president said it was all declassified. number two, they did not need so seize anything, could have had it any time they wanted without playing politics and breaking into mar-a-lago. he says it was in secured storage, additional lock put on it at their request, and they could have had it any time they wanted, all they had to do was ask. this seems to be the route the president has taken from go to all this. >> that's right. and pre

a.g. garland sort of chastised folks for criticizing the fbi, but there is real reason when you look at what that, a guy named kevin klein smith who was an attorney for the fbi, he actually pleaded guilty for lying to fisa judges in order to get warrants back then. so there have been to occasions in the past four or five years the highly politicized top echelon of the fbi actually giving bad information to judges to get more information. shouldn't we know about that by seeing the affidavit? >> yeah. and as you say,you were to go back and read the inspector general reports, and there's been several of them about crosspyre hurricane, the fisa -- crossfire hurricane, the fisa, mccabe's leaks, that sort of hinge, it puts you in a position where the bureau almost has to prove that they're not being political, if you will. same thing with the justice department. so the sunshine is the best disinfectant. it would be great to see affidavit unsealed because i think it would show exactly what investigation is sort of going towards. these are very, very serious statutes that were cited in the search wa

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a.g. merrick garland and trump appointed christopher wray, before they got the okay from a federal judge. because of that, it certainly feels like we're on the cusp of something big. what that something is is unclear. is it a criminal indictment? legal experts say it is way too soon to say. is it a reinvigoration of president trump's political possibilities in 2024. there was a new york time polling that suggested that half of republican voters wanted someone else to run for president. someone new. is it the start of a series of wrenching politically motivated house investigations into the doj and the fbi? house republicans are promising it will be if they regain control in november. or is it the start of something ugly. something violent. in the hours after the news broke online, searches for civil war spiked. it could be all of these things and it could be none of these things. so let us sort out what we can. joining us now is nbc news correspondent vaughan hillyard who is across the lagoon in west palm beach for us. also, nbc news justice reporter ryan riley on all thing january 6th. a

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a.g. merrick garland signed it to obtain the search warrant and they want to see it.. >> remember, this is the justice department that treated moms and dads as domestic terrorists. the administration that is going to unleash 87,000 i.r.s. agents to harass american taxpayers and families. >> unprecedented action that needs to be supported by unprecedented justification. >> a question whether or not they did exhaust as attorney general garland said all other means to do this rather than making this unprecedented move. >> dana: we have steve harrigan live at mar-a-lago in palm beach, florida, with the latest. good morning, steve. >> good morning, dana. president trump demanding some of those documents back saying they're protected by attorney/client privilege. the president also saying this raid was politically motivated writing on truth social president trump said america has never suffered this kind of abuse in law enforcement for the f.b.i. to raid the home of the president of the united states or any president is totally unheard of and unthinkable. this break-in was

. >> we are see things like lock and load on those websites or kilmeric garland, the a.g. they are talking about physical harm. >> we learned the last couple of years online radicalization can have real world consequences. this is a serious threat at the moment and we will see in the days and weeks whether the temperature rises or falls. some of that is incumbent on republican lawmakers to help the temperature stay calm. >> thank you, brian. appreciate it. >>> still not great but it could mark a major turning point. inflation cooling better than expected. but the pain for many americans still burns. we will have details ahead. >>> a much-needed break for a city on edge. police in albuquerque have a suspect in the death of four muslim men. >>> nfl boss roger goodell sounds off on cleveland browns quarterback deshaun watson calling his behavior predatory and pushing for a much tougher penalty. as an expedi a member you earn points on top of your airline mileses. so y you can go see even more of all the world's bubbles. we're a different kind of dentistry. one who believes in

as you say, merrick garland, the a.g. and the director of the fbi, christopher wray in coordination and discussion about the decision to do this in the early morning hours yesterday. david, thank you very much. david spunt at the depth of justice. let's bring in andy mccarthy, fox news contributor and former prosecutor. great to have you with us today. what is your headline reaction to what's going on here? >> well, i don't think that as usual in washington, it's not about what it's about. i don't think this really has much to do with the presidential records act or classified information. they're trying to tie trump to the capitol riot and they don't want to say that for a variety of reasons, so they use this as their pretext to conduct a search. but i don't think they're looking to prosecute. the first prosecution ever by the justice department of a former president of the united states on this kind of a classified information violation, which is comparatively trivial. what they're trying to do is make the january 6 cas

the attorney general merrick garland revealing he is moving to unseal the warrant, to reveal to the american people more about what they were looking for. the a.g. saying he personally approved the decision to search mar-a-lago. that the decision was not made lightly. indicating they tried other routes before the search. and now tonight, the judge giving trump's legal team until tomorrow to respond. so, will the former president allow the american people to see the warrant? to learn more about what the fbi was looking for? jonathan karl standing by with new reporting. and dan abrams tonight on something else we learned today, the key move on all of this months ago. >>> also breaking at this hour, law enforcement closely watching

and then by the a.g., merrick garland's own admission.aid here. it makes no sense. there was full cooperation with my father-in-law's attorneys, his entire team, the fbi, the national archives, leading up to this things were going totally fine and then all of the sudden you have this raid on mar-a-lago. why was it conducted? this way? why was it necessary to go through melania's closet? why weren't any lawyers allowed on the property while this was happening? there are so many questions and i think to release this affidavit would at least put some transparency in the hands of the american people because we need to have faith in our justice system. we need to have faith in our fbi. and, unfortunately, it has really been lacking for a lot of americans since last monday. >> todd: it begs the question and i'm sure people are wondering, will this show that this wasn't the least restrictive, least intrusive method possible to get the information they want. judge could be scared that's going to come out. doj also scared. meantime got to get your

a.g. merrick garland that oversight republicans in congress will be taking action.riefing. trump, for his part, joked about the historically unprecedented raid in a tele rally for sarah palin last night. >> thank you very much. that's right. another day in paradise. this was a strange day. you probably have all read about it. but very important. >> trump was in new york city at the time of the raid, but he headed to mar-a-lago last night where people have flocked in support of him. a source tells fox news at this point the raid is separate from a grand jury investigation into efforts to overturn the 2020 election. back to you guys. steve: hey, jacqui, real quick. did the president sign off on it or was this just the a.g. and the fbi guy. >> just the a.g. and fbi as far as we know. >> steve: thank you very much. >> lawrence: thanks, jacqui. >> steve: let's bring in matthew whitaker former acting attorney general under donald j. trump. matthew good morning to you. >> good morning. >> steve: this all stems from after he left the white house he took 15 cartons of stuff

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one good thing about having merrick garland there as the a.g.that he's somebody who really made his career responding to white nationalist violence, responding to militia violence, and that experience hopefully will serve him well in dealing with this threat. >> yeah. all important points as we carefully look at this incident and the wider developments this week. michelle goldberg, ryan reilly, i want to thank both of you. i'm going to fit in a break. when we come back, how everyone is making sense of this and why the fear is very real. stay with us. the fear is very real. stay with us and i write mystery novels. dogs have been such an important part of my life. i have flinn and a new puppy. as i was writing, i found that i just wasn't as sharp and i new i needed to do something so i started taking prevagen. i realized that i was much more clear and i was remembering the details that i was supposed to. prevagen keeps my brain working right. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. psst. psst. ♪ ♪ [allergy monster attacks] allergies don't have to

a.g. of the united states merrick garland is a little, you know, occupied, preoccupied now trying to figure out how to keep the affidavit which let the search go on at trump's house under seal. he is a little busy now you might say. i'm being facetious. two million. let's put that into context. pop up the screen. we're on track to have 2 million people arrested coming into this country. that is the equivalent to the entire population of the state of new mexico. it's the equivalent to all of the people we have in our nation's prisons in jail. and with people watching from 50 states, this number probably would be low but it is estimated that about 2 million viewers on average watch an nba game. that's the equivalent of the people that we have let come across our border, not to mention all those gotaways we don't know where they are and they are not in that number. >> it underestimates how many people are coming because of those gotaways. you know, new york and washington, d.c. are making big production about how they are having to handle some of this illegal immigration. but this is what peop

a.g. merrick garland into damage control mode. >> steve: kevin corke is live in washington with the latestn, the doj filed this 36-page filing as it is referred to just before midnight. just before the deadline. and there's a jackpot of information in there. >> a lot of allegations. and you are right, it made for very interesting fox news at night last night right around the midnight hour. this 36 page filing offers the department's most detailed account yet of its allegations of obstruction of justice. and, again, i want to repeat allegations. as for the trump team's desire to have a special master appointed the feds say quote the plaintiff's motion to appoint a special master enjoined further review of seized materials fails for multiple independent reasons. the government also developed evidence that government records were likely concealed and removed to obstruct the investigation. now, the filings include a photo of some of the apparently classified files that were recovered. the former president's lawyer say look, we were cooperating with the feds the whole way. by the way, this is a

classified thing and then look around in the house doesn't seem like the way that merrick garland or a serious a.gwant to pursue other things, although i'll be clear, plenty of police raids find what they find and move on from there, right? but this is not just a random search or raid, jill. >> it is not. first an all, they must specify exactly where in the premises they are going to search. they could have asked for the entire premises, but more likely than not it's limited to donald trump's office to his bedroom, to his safe, to his living -- you know, we don't know exactly where, but it's probably not the public dining room. it's probably not the lobby. so it's a specific place, and they are looking for something specific. but in a legal warrant, if you are there and you find evidence of other crimes than what you're looking for, you do get to take them. that is a legitimate use of the search warrant some we don't know. we know the agents did not leave empty handed. they were seen leaving with a carton -- cartons. we don't know if there was one piece of paper in the carton or there was a stack

garland in charge of the prosecution doj of the unabomber. and i have to tell you something. he would not recommend to the a.g. e approved. >> signed off on a warrant to raid trump? is that what you're saying? >> that is exactly what i'm saying. >> jesse: merrick garland treated him better than he did trump. he respected the constitutional rights of the uniform or's judgment treated mar-a-lago like an al qaeda statehouse. jean hamilton is a former counselor. america first legal. what is wrong with the attorney general? >> nothing since consistency and assessment of a risk like refusing to pursue a search warrant for the unabomber juxtaposed against this pursuing a search warrant for the former president of the net state residence. it is absolutely impossible to understand but as you pointed out, he has a record. he has a parent of this type of behavior. we don't need to look any further when merrick garland issued this memo targeting parents. he thought it was required the use of all the department's resources to go after parents protesting at school board meetings and yeah, again, when presented with a situati

the attorney general merrick garland revealing he is moving to unseal the warrant, to reveal to the american people more about what they were looking for. the a.gersonally approved the decision to search mar-a-lago. that the decision was not made lightly. indicating they tried other routes before the search. and now tonight, the judge giving trump's legal team until tomorrow to respond. so, will the former president allow the american people to see the warrant? to learn more about what the fbi was looking for? jonathan karl standing by with new reporting. and dan abrams tonight on something else we learned today, the key move on all of this months ago. >>> also breaking at this hour, law enforcement closely watching

the attorney general merrick garland revealing he is moving to unseal the warrant, to reveal to the american people more about what they were looking for. the a.g he personally approved the decision to search mar-a-lago. that the decision was not made lightly. indicating they tried other routes before the search. and now tonight, the judge giving trump's legal team until tomorrow to re so, will the former president allow the american people to see the warrant? to learn more about what the fbi was looking for? jonathan karl standing by with new reporting. and dan abrams tonight on something else we learned today, the key move on all of this months ago.

the attorney general merrick garland revealing he is moving to unseal the warrant, to reveal to the american people more about what they were looking for. the a.g. saying he personally approved the decision to search mar-a-lago. that the decision was not made lightly. indicating they tried other routes before the search. and now tonight, the judge giving trump's legal team until tomorrow to re so, will the former president allow the american people to see the warrant? to learn more about what the fbi was looking for? jonathan karl standing by with new reporting. and dan abrams tonight on something else we learned today, the key move on all of this months ago. >>> also baking a this hour, clg a tense scene all day. a shooter trying to breach an fbi office in cincinnati. the suspect allegedly armed with an ar-15 style weapon and wearing body armor. a gun battle erupting. the chase. and tonight what authorities have just revealed moments ago. trevor ault on the scene for us. >>> the horrific aftermath after the house explosion in indiana. the new images tonight. at least three people killed. 39 nearby homes damaged, many of them destroyed. >>> the

a.g. bill barr calling for a special counsel after whistleblower's revelations how f.b.i. agents handled information about hunter. >> it time for merrick garland to give the current u.s. attorney in delaware the protections of the special and authority of a special counsel under the department's regulations. we have whistleblowers coming forward that raise against about the f.b.i.'s role in that case to provide additional assurance and deal with the appearance of a potential conflict between the administration and the investigation of the president's son. time has come to do that. >> harris: your response. >> bill barr is absolutely right. i've been calling for a special counsel in the hunter biden case in a long time. in this case again you have the f.b.i. taking a different route. for over three years they have had the laptop since 2019. haven't done much with it that we can tell. i'm worried that if merrick garland is putting his thumb on these types of investigation whether promoting this one against president trump or slowing down the one against hunter biden, he has an obvious conflict since this is the son of his boss. >> harris: as you

listen to merrick garland because merrick garland was in charge of the prosecution at doj of the unabomber. i have to tell you something, he would not recommend to the a.g our search warrant to get into theodore kaczynski's cabin be approved. he and his attorneys had us working until 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning of april 3rd and finally the a.g., janet reno along with lloyd free they stepped in. they approved the search warrant anyway. that was a case where we had bombs on airplanes. we had threats to blow up airplanes in mid-air. we had people killed with bombs for 18 years. he wouldn't do anything. he would not recommend to the a.g. that we get into that cabin on april 3rd. he didn't see the urgency then and he didn't seem to care about agents being up all night trying to get ride for that but, on this, this is how he handles this? we have what was the last count 75, perhaps? i'm sure that's real low ball of potential people who are terrorists. they were on the terror watch list. they are in america somewhere. the fbi has no idea where they are. christopher wray could not tell us last week where the hunter biden atlanta is or if the fbi still has it. b

34merrick garland to give a full accounting of why the search was necessary and saying that the unprecedented search should lead to unprecedented transparency. and republicans can hold the a.g. accountable while not talking the fbi rank and file which is a line that got a lot of applause. >> athena jones, jessica schneider, thanks so many. let's bring in elie honig. walk us through what likely went on in that grand jury room today. most of us have never seen a grand jury, been part of a grand jury. how does it work, giuliani testifying today? >> so here is who is present inside the grand jury room. the prosecutors, the grand jurors themselves, normal civilian, up to 23 of them, a court reporter who is taking down everything that is said and the witness in this case rudy giuliani. notably absent, there is no judge and there is no defense lawyer inside the grand jury. so rudy giuliani had to go in there himself. of course he's been a lawyer for five decades and former prosecutor, so he is not exactly out there in the wind. importantly people may be wondering why would giuliani have been in there for six hours. he might have been testifying, he might have been invoking his fif

garland, the attorney general. i can't help but to wonder, it would have to go through him before you even go to the judge for the search warrant. does the a.g. for something like this, have to sign off, yes, i agree all the ducks are in a row and every possible argument could be made for obtaining this search warrant, go get it? >> not necessarily under standard doj protocol and procedures, but there's nothing standard about the search of a former president's home. i strongly suspect merrick garland was apprised of it and in agreement with it at a minimum. >> kim, let me bring you in here. what does this tell you that trump made the announcement of the search himself. does that come with any legal risk? >> well, you know, it's hard to give credence to anything that comes out of donald trump's mouth after tens of thousands of lies that came out of the white house when he was there. of course, we know that his attorneys are already telling him to not talk to people like mark meadows and it's hard to know what he was thinking prior to issuing that, but i agree with glenn completely. yesterday was the anniversary of richard nixon resigning the

a.g.? >> victor, i don't expect to hear a clear counternarrative. i don't expect to hear a point-by-point refutation of anything that's been said publicly. i think what we're going to see is merrick garlanding to thread the needle. as kaitlan collins reported, merrick garland has made a point of keeping doj out of politics, separate from the white house. i think that's a virtue. i think that's a good thing, to keep prosecution away from politics. but as pam and katelyn reported, this is the real world. there is enormous interest in this from the public, and there is a political element to this case, like it or not. so, this may well be merrick garland's way to try to say something to have a presence, perhaps to stand up for the people who work for doj and the fbi and to assure us, i believe, probably in conclusory general terms, that everything was done standard and by the book and correctly here, but i don't expect him to say, here's why donald trump's take on this has been wrong. >> elie, let me stay with you for this one. we spoke the day after the search at the home. and i asked if there would be any public-facing actions by the doj. there is that guidance to do nothing within 90 day

a.g. will speak out. many republicans and even democrats online are call for him to talk. kevin mccarthy is saying attorney general garlandounty as terrorists and failed to enforce federal law to protect justices and their homes. selective politically motivated have no place in our democracy. >> they are completely right. this is a different time. this is different circumstances. usually during an investigation, they would stay silent. but this is not usually. this is not normal. you just raided a former president's home under shady circumstances. and you need to tell people why. you need to assure the public that there was some serious evidence and serious evidence of wrongdoing here that required this search. now, i'm not sure they are going to be able to do that, but kevin mccarthy is right. when we retake the house in november, this is the kind of oversight that we will be doing. that's why he said clear your calendar merrick garland because you are coming and you better have your documents ready and better have explanations ready for the american people. you cannot weaponize our sniewtions for political gain. >> that

a.g. garland: that afternoon. since i became attorney general, i am made clear that the department would speak through its court filings and work. the justice department failed to receive a property receipt related to a court-approved search the fbi conducted earlier this week. the search was a premises located in florida belonging to the former president. the department did not make any public statements on the day of the search. the former president publicly confirmed the search that evening as is his right. copies of both the warrant and the fbi property receipt were provided on the day of the search to the former president's counsel who was on site during the search. the search warrant was authorized by a federal court, upon the required finding of probable cause. the proffering -- the property receipt is a document that federal law hires law enforcement agents to lease with the property owner. the department filed the motion to make public the warrant and receipt in light of the over president's -- the former