but one of carl's directors will serve on the a.m.a.ommittee and the press release did say he was working with morgan stanley and do have a banker, but i can't say it would be a target sm but it is that size of software company that get taken out by bigger companies. would it be wise to sell at this value? it was a $4 billion company. taylor: who are the other investors and who else is behind this company? > a czech investor says he supports it. but i think a lot of investors. so they are not getting a whole lot for their money. taylor: we hear how good it is and any other strategies, where else. >> they have all the buzz words. but from what i understand talking to experts, the focus that they have, it's been commommedy and services around the cloud. we'll see what the future hold for them and have new products coming out. taylor: we will keep an eye on those new products. and coming up, peter till, and the trump administration and why he wants their hands often crippings. that's next. taylor: conservative tech investor isn't shy about