i mentioned the a.q. khan case.the bush administration, with no offense to fran's friends, were completely unhelpful in describing the activities of the man who sold nuclear technology around the world. because they did not want to upset the pakistanis. at the time they needed pakistani cooperation in a range of other counterterrorism things. it wasn't because anybody in the u.s. government thought a.q. khan was an upstanding citizen, okay? it was that they had some other reason they didn't want to give. so we went out, we did our reporting for a year, we published this very long story. the pack standny foreign -- pakistani foreign minister declares i have not read the story, but it's a pack of lies. two days later they arrested a.q. khan because of the public revelation of it, and a high-ranking friend of fran's calls me up and said i was just calling to thank you for publishing that story, because without it we don't think the pakistanis would have actually gone and locked him up. and i said, well, thanks a lot fo

i mentioned the a.q. khan case. the bush administration were unhelpful in describing his activities. they did not want to upset the pakistans. they had some other reason. we went out and did our reporting for a year, we published this long story, the pakistani foreign minister set i have not read the story but it is a pack of lies. they arrested a.q. khan today's letter. a friend calls and said i was i to think you for publishing the story. we do not think the pakistanis would have locked him up without that. i said thanks for all the help. >> you have heard danna and david talk. "leak" makes it sound easy. it is about relationships. it is recognizing the policy officials. the most important conversations are happening on the margins of a cocktail party or a starbucks on the sidelines. there -- they are happening there and it may be an innocent conversation that generates an idea for lead but one of these reporters goes and checks with the source and begins to weave the fabric of the finished piece. that you read in

the work that we did on 8 q a.q. khan. that was another year's project before went into print with our first story. what i worry about in the journalistic world is the compete more with all the social media is making sure that there is a space for people to work on something for year. before they publish something. that is the bigger risk to that weative journalism get caught up in the first that we do not spend the time it takes to do deport. >> not only are we not out on twitter, you're trying to make sure that david does not hear what i am working on and vice versa. it takes a long time for these things to build. >> we have time for one more question. in the back. that we get caught up in the first that we do not spend the time it takes to do deport. >> not only are we not out on microphone over here. >> i have a question about the case.e moscow-u.s.-cia secretary andd russia. russianeen paraded on television. i am happy subscriber to york newspapers here but i have not read anything interested in there. read in lots of