. >> aain, i keep mentioning iran. that's why these are all interlinked, because if the u.s. is not willing to go after chinese banks for what in my view is blatant vioon o u.s. law, what convinces us that this administration is going to go after european banks and others that might be doing that for iran sanctions violations? and so, i think these are all interlinked, and so, from my perspective, you know, we can do a score card, but i would say, if we're going back to max pressure and the first thing out of there is not going after chinese networks or chinese banks, that could wind up harming the administration's policy both on iran and on north korea. >> you know, something that i find something interesting here listening to you speak is there seems to be kind of a reversal of political roles among the north korea analysts, i know, traditional democrats, liberals, lefties,ith w the conservatives are very skeptical. do you think that you have reversed roles, i think i heard you praise bill clinton. >> just for being grumpy, uncomfortablybly grumpy. ve 20 years of traininthg