i think really that is genuinely aapplicable now to hillary clinton.when she was not elected official, first lady, taken on conversion to issues but important every day issues that face people and known that she will have to -- she will be attacked and criticized personally attacked, even if it's unfair. on the other hand, she has always had a global -- an interesting cultures and people from around the world and saw the big picture what is it that makes -- she is commonality among human beings? that way, very much like jacqueline ken day real fascination for different ways people live. >> let's look at a little of that. there are other first ladies who have made major impact opts country. you can go back many years to lady -- the first lady, dolley madison, many feel defined the role of first lady, policy side, bet any ford with substance abuse, nancy reagan has the just say no campaign on drugs and jackie kennedy, style you glamour, glitz, all that stuff. talk more then about the similarities between jackie kennedy and mrs. clinton. >> there is also