aaron bastani, where are you on some of these?ll, the biggest cost for business, which which has gone up substantially in the last several years, is of course, energy. and then on top of that, you're going to have increased costs of credit because of interest rates. so the idea that this is somehow, you know, the major cost, that's been imposed on businesses over the last five years is inaccurate. what i would say is britain is very good at creating jobs. it has had very low unemployment for a very long time. we have a major problem, which is more people are in poverty who work than who don't work. we have lots of in—work poverty. we all view that as bad , right? let's start that as bad, right? let's start where we agree. >> i disagree with a number of things you've already said, but i'm holding my tongue. well we agree that in—work poverty is bad. yeah, but i disagree that we have low unemployment. we have very high unemployment. it's just that unemployment figures official unemployment figures official unemployment figures only

aaron bastani remain alongside me now. army has warned that britain has to be prepared to fight a war in three years time. i mean, let'sjust years time. i mean, let's just cut to the chase about this. apparently, he's warning warned world war iii could perhaps be imminent. aaron bastani, where are you on this, >> it strikes me as quite ridiculous. britain. after seven months of attacks, hasn't been able to get rid of the houthis. they tried. they failed. so the idea that we're going to go toe to toe with russia, china and iran together strikes me as quite wild. i think britain needs to take a step back. our political class needs to take a step back and be honest with the pubuc step back and be honest with the public and say, we don't have the industrial capacity, we don't have the manufacturing base, we don't have the skills actually , anymore to have the actually, anymore to have the kind of war economy that these people are talking about. we haven't had that kind of economy. you might say, for 20 years. you might want to

evening is the columnist at the mail on sunday, peter hitchens, and the co—founder of novara media, aaron bastani been i did enjoy not during the election campaign, your little trips on novara media around individual seats , finding out what the seats, finding out what the people have to say, what they're thinking. it was good. i found it interesting. >> that's very kind of you. >> that's very kind of you. >> it's all right. let's see what people were saying about the defence conversation we were having. anonymous has gotten in touch. you say nato is archaic and we need to be in charge of our own defence with updated weapons and armed forces. carol says we need to beef up our defences. nato is vital to western democracy. nuclear deterrent is also necessary and rob says make all defence spending mandatory to british manufacturers only. we can then spend infinite amounts and increase growth at the same time. i reckon we'd probably have to export some as well to make to make more money. possibly, but there you go. those are your views . now moving those are your views. now moving on. because, almost

well, joining me to discuss this from novara media, aaron bastani and the political commentator dominiquemuels. evening to you both. let's start with you, aaron. you're you're a left leaning commentator. you should be presumably delighted to see tony blair back in the picture. >> not especially, but the biggest story for me with tony blair and the tony blair institute really is the money. so the big problem for me is not necessarily tony blair. the big problem is that you have people like larry ellison, who's the co—founder of a massive company called oracle, having given the tony blair institute hundreds of millions of dollars, he's given 100 million. he's going to give another $200 million. and his big thing is health data, ai. and what was tony blair talking about this week? ai and data and the nhs. so i think it's important to separate the man from this idea of money and politics and people buying influence and pay to play in politics. we can talk about think tanks and we can talk about lobbyists. in british politics, there is nothing. there has never been anything like the tony blair

while i'm joined now by the co—founder of novara media, aaron bastani. so much for coming in. >> my pleasure. jacob. >> my pleasure. jacob. >> all politicians have said things that they later regret, and sometimes we fall back on that hoary old chestnut and say we were quoted out of context, which is usually code for saying we've said something we regretted or occasionally we say we regret saying it. there's a wonderful quotation from churchill about how he'd often had to eat his own words, and he'd found it a very sustaining diet. david lammy this morning would not say that he regretted any of these comments about trump. is that right? for the foreign secretary? >> it's a very strange situation. i mean, just responding to what you said a moment ago. many people regret things they've said about donald trump, including his now running mate, vp jd vance, although he gave a very good explanation as to why he said the things he said. he said elite liberals and elite conservatives bought into the image rather than the substance of his agenda. lammy saying wha

got peter hitchens , and i've got peter hitchens, and i've got peter hitchens, and i've also got aaron bastani indeed. of course, we're going to be leading the show with an update on this manhunt for this triple killer. we've seen the police swarming into the cemetery. we're going to be there outside, live right at the top of the show, but then we're going to get stuck into the debates of the day. should the reform party merge with the conservatives is that a good idea? what would nigel farage say? is it a recipe for disaster? there's huge amounts of tory infighting , as amounts of tory infighting, as we know, particularly between suella braverman and kemi badenoch. it's all going down on public, on public media, on social media, and of course , social media, and of course, lisa nandy in the labour party announcing that somehow the culture wars, the era of the culture wars, the era of the culture wars, the era of the culture wars is now over. is it really up to her to decide whether it's over? we'll discuss that too . that too. >> emily carver cannot wait for that. >> emily carver cannot wait

ben habib and aaron bastani will be keeping me company to get stuck into all of that.nk you, and good evening to you . well, mps have evening to you. well, mps have been discussing the king's speech in the house of commons today. the prime minister, sir keir starmer , promised national keir starmer, promised national renewal after what he called 14 years of tory chaos and it comes after king charles officially opened the new session of parliament, setting out the government's planned programme of new laws. in total, 40 pieces of new laws. in total, 40 pieces of legislation were announced, with promises to get britain building, deliver greater devolution and