. >> what could you possibly have against aaron burr. >> thank you for your remarks. i enjoyed them very much. in american -- presents jefferson as a very dogmatic rigid and self-righteous partisan and that seems to contrast with jefferson's great mind that has such cosmo -- cosmopolitan thoughts and what do you think of ellis' portrayal. >> i agree with much of ellis' portrayal. certainly jefferson's -- jefferson's views form in the 1760s, i think, and they -- he expands those views but never really questions those views from that point on. he remains an adherent of the views he came to at that point. so, -- but i think that was true of most of the people -- probably true of most people at most times in fact. >> -- ferling, thank you kindly for your presentation. >> sure. >> with james madison writing the constitution and being almost a neighbor at what -- ash lawn, believe, right up the road -- >> who do you feel had the greater input into madison in that production of the constitution? >> i'm not sure either really influenced madison that much. madison was a savvy

[laughter] [inaudible] >> what could he possibly have against aaron burr? [laughter] >> thank you for your remarks. i enjoyed them very much. jefferson was presented as a very dogmatic and rigid and even pretty self-righteous partisan. that seems to contest so much with jeffersons enlightenment, revolutionary and a great mind of such cosmopolitan thoughts. i'm curious whether you see that contest in jefferson, what you think of that portrayal? >> i agree with much of the portrayal. certainly, jefferson's views form in the 1760s, i think, and he expands those views. ..think. he expand those views but never questioned them. he remains an adherent of those views that that was true of most people at most times. >> thank you kindly for your presentation. with james madison writing the constitution and being almost a neighbor, right up the road from montpellier, who do you feel had a greater input into madison in that production of the constitution? jefferson or hamilton? >> i am not sure either influenced hamilton, or madison that much. madison was a savvy polit

. >> i think he sort of grudgingly thought that as bad as jefferson was, he was better than aaron burr. >> what do you say? >> thank you for your remarks. enjoyed them very much. joseph ellis presents jefferson has a very dogmatic and rigid and even self righteous partisan. that seems to contrast so much with jefferson, the enlightenment thinkers, the revolutionary, the great mind of cosmopolitan fought. i am curious whether you see that contrast being jefferson and what you think of ellis's for trail? >> i agree with much of ellis's portrayal. certainly jefferson's views form in the 1760s i think. he expand those views but never questioned them. he remains an adherent of those views that that was true of most people at most times. >> thank you kindly for your presentation. with james madison writing the constitution and being almost a neighbor, right up the road from montpellier, who do you feel had a greater input into madison in that production of the constitution? jefferson or hamilton? >> i am not sure either influenced hamilton, or madison that much. madison was a savvy politicia