aaron burr, you got to be kidding. aaron burr was vice-president of the united states under thomss jefferon. he presided over the trials in the senate. he conducted them with due process. it infurerated jefferson and later, when aaron burr was no longer vice-president was tried for treason. aaron burr could have lost his life to thomas jefferson. >> lou: it is a fascinating book and we recommend it highly. i think it is a fascinating book and it is a delight to think that it is the inception of the republic thatty we have been request squa lid in your government. conservative have been fighting big government and is hasn't worked. is it a time to change our strategy and approach. how do we get smaller government. >> they called it common sense and liberty and patriotism. low lou everything i agree with i call common sense. >> even though technology has changed our population has bombed. many issues we face today are very, very similar and closely faced since revolution. i told the story of the unsung heroes. >> lou: it

aaron burr. some people know about her from hamilton the guy who is the bad guy in the play who shoots hamilton it'd dual that there's so much else to the story and your chapter on burr really brings it up. >> guest: he is known as the damsel who shot him as they say in a play but there's much more to it than that. he was the vice president of united states of course under thomas jefferson. >> host: even that story is very interesting how he became vice president. >> guest: as is the fact that once he became vice president he became the defender of the little guy, the defender of those who face impeachment trials and facing impeachment trials. >> host: the chief justice of the united states. >> guest: well said, hardly the little guy but aaron burr knew only these people were facing a trial and facing a trial in the senate. they could either be treated fairly and with due regard for their due process rights or they could be rushed through in a kangaroo court type fashion. wasn't very tempting for

but aaro aaron burr without rego their station knew only that these people were facing a trial. facing a trial in the senate. they could either be treated fairly and with due regard for the due process rights or it could be rushed through in a kangaroo court type fashion. would have been tempting for burr to lean toward the kangaroo court approach picky didn't. he instead looked out for the due process rights. in part because of that end in part because thomas jefferson continued to see him as an ongoing political threat, and ongoing rival presidential candidate. during his second term in office when burr was no longer by president thomas jefferson had burr prosecuted for treason. this was a capital offense. this could have ended that only his political career but his life. >> host: tell us about the story because it involves him conspiring with a colonel and bring trips to mexico and the like. >> guest: it involve involves te conspiracy theory of general wilkinson. there was a letter that was written in code and there is some dispute. it appears doubtful that it was ever even i

your book celebrates aaron burr for a couple of things in particular. one is this idea that he is attacking jefferson for trying to aggregate the power to interfere in the prosecution and basically launch a prosecution against him. obviously today and literally today there's there is a debatn about the president interfering with law enforcement investigations. what do you think that aaron burr would say, and i don't have the facts but at least literally be justified as we are doing this interview saying the president ordered him to drop a criminal prosecution in the national security adviser. advisor. if you think back to what you're celebrating what do you think that says? >> at any age to make sure you are vigilant in protecting the separation of powers to make sure you watch over all restrictions on government and in the constitution which after all is the only reason to have the constitution or any other. they can tell us to watch that in this age and any other age. regardless of where people fall on their views of this presidential administration,

aaron burr. you've got to be kidding. fighting big government and executive abuse of power?when aaron burr was the vice president of the united states under thomas jefferson, he presided as the president of the senate over some impeachment trials of some of thomas jefferson's enemies, and he conducted those trials with due process. he was determined to stand up for the rights of the accused. he did this in a way that ended up infuriating jefferson. and jefferson, later when aaron burr was no longer the vice president, had burr prosecuted for treason, a capital offense. but for the fact that the constitution contains special protections for those accused of treason, aaron burr might well have lost his life to thomas jefferson. lou: well, it's a fascinating book. again, i want to say we recommend it to you highly. senator mike lee has written it. and i think it's a fascinating book, and it's a delight to think that it's been since the inception of the republic that we've been somewhat squalid in our politics on occasion and have overcome it. for some reason, that seems to me t

few people folks have not heard of so you cover people like that, but people wrote a lot about aaron burr. but then you also have been developed remarkable people. you have chapters on each of these people. my first question is how in the world coming to you for a sitting united states senator that those books not just that everyone has heard of like lake hamilton but people nobody had heard of today. >> long airplane rides and sometimes long recesses and lots of pent-up emotion on federalism and separation of powers. >> your day job is not enough to keep you busy? >> guest: it dovetails quite nicely on the subject matter. i'm always on the lookout. when i find good stories i like to write about them. >> host: so the structural constitutional wall i've never heard of this. and how does a story like that come to you? >> guest: like i say when you're on the lookout they come to you as other people i knew who they thought should get more credit then they get. this was a chief from the tribe who understood the principle of liberalism because they lifted for centuries before we were our own co

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figuresd one of those shown in hamilton, aaron burr, is much more complicated than what you have seen if you have the opportunity to watch it. sen. lee: that's right. with ehrenberg, the problem is burr, the with aaron problem is that he was a fool who shot hamilton. but he was also thomas jefferson's vice president. he conducted the trials of some lyricals jefferson's enemy -- political enemies. .e was a very impartial person he also won a certain amount of resentment from thomas jefferson, who, during his second term when burr was no longer his vice president, had urr prosecuted -- b prosecuted. reminder that even thomas jefferson, who many of us is oned revere and who of the office of the declaration of independence, abused his power. that is why it is important that to respect the constitution, we respect the limits of places on government officials. host: only a few minutes left with the senator, so i wanted to give our viewers another opportunity to talk to you. nancy, austin, texas, independent. hi, i consider you one of the good guys, so it is nice to talk to you. i do want to

. >> do you think aaron burr got a bad rap >> i do. i think he's been treated unfairly. fool who shot alexander hamilton. avenues good man. a complicated man. did a lot of great things for the country. he pushed back against thomas jefferson who tried in this greedy fit of power accumulation to go after aaron burr to have him prosecuted for treason a capital offense. he pushed back and using language of the constitution won his freedom. >> do you think that narrative is on the wrong side of popular pop culture at the moment in terms of how hamilton has taken off? >> yes. that's what makes this a good read. it's a counter narrative and one that makes a good graduation present or a good gift for anyone who wants to supplement their child's education. >> it's called "written out of history." thank you for being here. >>> thanks to our international viewers for watching. for you cnn newsroom is next. for our u.s. viewers will president trump pull out of the paris climate accord. "new day" continues right now. >> james comey will testify before the senate. >> i think mr. come

you played aaron burr and alexander hamilton. >> i played aaron burr or wednesday for both shows. >> how'd it go? >> i thought it went pretty smooth. it was a crazy experience. the most demanding and the most rewarding role i've ever done. it's been awesome. and now i know hamilton and george washington as well. those dates will come too. and a lot of information in the brain. >> what do you think it's about hamilton that so many people have connected with? what is it about this show? i did go to see it a few weeks ago. it's an incredibly entertaining experience. but why has it resonated so much with the audience. >> i think it's a universal story of hunan perseverance. you know these people came to our country as immigrants with nothing and created what we now revere as this amazing government system that runs our country. and democracy and everything. so i think it's a re- examination of what we take for granted in our country. you know. and i think people being able to see that from a different perspective with actors of color. and with hip hop and with an accessible medium i thin

but executive privilege dates back to president jefferson who refused to provide documents to aaron burrwho was accused of manslaughter. president trump hasn't yet invoked this executive privilege. but what i think sessions was saying is this is probably stuff the president will invoke the privilege on. i'm not going to spill the beans here. let the president invoke it and then we can talk about it. sessions was probably trying to prevent something being leaked that the president wanted to protect. lou: north korea released a detained american student. as secretary mattis said -- >> north korea's reckless rhetoric and provocative actions continue despite u.s. sanctions. lou: we take up the growing threat from north korea as well as the deep state working hard against the trump administration to the point of subject version. but when family members forget, trust angie's list to help. [ barks ] visit angieslist.com today. you on a perfect car,rch then smash it into a tree. your insurance company raises your rates... maybe you should've done more research on them. for drivers with accident

but executive privilege dates back to president jefferson who refused to provide documents to aaron burro was accused of manslaughter. president trump hasn't yet invoked this executive privilege. but what i think sessions was saying is this is probably stuff the president will invoke the privilege on. i'm not going to spill the beans here. let the president invoke it and then we can talk about it. sessions was probably trying to prevent something being leaked that the president wanted to protect. lou: north korea released a detained american student. as secretary mattis said -- >> north korea's reckless rhetoric and provocative actions continue despite u.s. sanctions. lou: we take up the growing threat from north korea as well as the deep state working hard against the trump administration to the point of subject version. you don't want to miss it. choicehotels.com. badda book. badda boom. that's it? he means book direct at choicehotels.com for the lowest price on our rooms guaranteed. plus earn free nights and instant rewards at check-in. yeah. like i said. book now at choicehotels.com

who wanted not to testify in the treason child of aaron burr. and it was invoked various times. is bipartisan. eisenhower did it for the mccarthy hearings. president clinton did it 14 times. president bush, seven times. president obama, once or twice. >> if turn president's lawyer and he was asking you, i want to invoke executive privilege, not to prevent him from testifying but about the personal conversations. >> now you know where it comes from. >> could he invoke it in this sense? >> that's a narrow finding of definition. not everything that comes out of president's mouth would be covered by executive privilege bauflt conversation about someone like a job interview, how would you like to be the fbi director, what do you think we should do about x, y or z subject, in the deliberative process of a president making his decisions, is within the realm of executive privilege. the most powerful assertion requires there to be something about the president's seeking information for which to make a decision. and if that's the case, then it fits within its definition. it is most powerf

during the trial of aaron burr, the portraitist was there doing profiles of all of the famous people. we have one on jefferson and other people as well. he did one of john marshall. was john marshall presiding as judge on the trial? yes? i thought so. this was largely based on that. this is an interesting piece. this is what i did for statuary hall for the city of washington. there's another copy which i donated to the college of business at liam and mary in their new business school. it is in the three-story a trim. this is the one that is in a -- aetrium. -- this is the one that is in a government building in washington. this shows pierre lafond -- l'enfant. he took john trumbull up there, the painter. he has several of those paintings in the rotunda at the capital. he is pointing to the navy yard and looking toward georgetown. map and his index finger is -- on his knee, he has his map and his index finger is pointing to where they are on capitol hill and where they are going to put the capital. he brought several other people up there. and so now, how do you portray him? sorry this

all the way back to thomas jefferson who ordered his attorney general to prosecute aaron burr and micromanagedtrial itself. so, historically the president is on solid footing. nobody talks about that, but legal scholars are well aware of it. stuart: however, you're talking legally. you are a recovering lawyer. >> right. stuart: you've got a law degree and this is not a legal arena. what our viewers are looking at is the political arena. >> right, and look, there is the political act of impeachment which is completely different than the law. gerald ford once famously quipped, what does impeachment mean? he says it's whatever congress says on any given day. stuart: he's right. >> the founding fathers identified impeachment, and used high crimes and misdemeanors, but never defined it. i think they wanted an evolving standard to take place. that's completely different from obstruction of justice as a crime. liz: what james comey will say. he will say the fbi was not investigating donald trump personally and when he understands what the president was talking to him about, it was about the michael f

aaron burr and alexander hamilton, destined to fight the most famous duel in american history. i think there was a musical or some other play -- something, i can't remember. during the autumn of 1777, monroe fonts in the battle of brandywine and germantown. leading a scouting party in june 1778, monroe sent messages to george washington to helped thwart a move against the ranks. monmouth was the last time james monroe would be under fire in the revolutionary war. he became a lieutenant colonel of virginia forces, military aid to thomas jefferson, but was unsuccessful in being able to recruit enough soldiers for a regimen of his own to command. seeing very little prospects for being able to further his military career, monroe left the army and begin to study with jefferson in waynesburg, then in richmond when the virginia capital moved to that city. 13 years older than his protÉge, jefferson became an rose monroe's political mentor. describing monroe to another of his disciples, james madison, jefferson turned his soul outwards and there's not a speck on it. on february 16, 1786