. >> aaron david miller, to hear barbara starr recite in this document that the syrian kurdish leader says you have given up on us, leaving us to be slaughtered. what do you see has happened here? >> you know, i think the kurds misread the american commitment. we've been betraying the kurds and allowing our own national interests to trump theirs, no pun intended, over the decades. i think this relationship between the u.s. and the kurds was also a transactional one. we didn't have the heft, the leverage, the will frankly or the skill on the ground it seems to me to sustain this relationship over time. it was only a matter of time. you have a very risk averse president, donald trump, eager to fulfill a campaign commitment, eager to allow his own personal sensibilities and own politics to override the american national interests. it's only a matter of time before this transactional relationship between the u.s. and the sdf and other affiliate kurdish groups gave way to a more important relationship with the turks. we find ourselves now, fred, in a situation in which the real power broke