as a matter of fact, one of the issues we're looking at in the aba is what would be the aba's response in the event there was a dirty nuclear bomb and habeas corpus was suspended in the united states, as it was by lincoln and by roosevelt? a lot of people don't remember that and don't know it. england, i was in england talking to their lawyers. i was talking to their security people. they don't have a constitution. they have much different ability to hold people for longer periods of time, and what they would do under similar circumstances. it is an issue we are thinking about and an issue the american bar association will have to respond to. >> a very different sector of the set of problems you have been wrestling with, are the problems faced by our justice system

as a matter of fact, one of the issues we're looking at in the aba is what would be the aba's response in the event there was a dirty nuclear bomb and habeas corpus was suspended in the united states, as it was by lincoln and by roosevelt? a lot of people don't remember that and don't know it. england, i was in england talking to their lawyers.

>> the aba has spoken out about that issue on a number of occasions. it is important to preserve the bill of rights. i think that benjamin franklin -- he said those who will sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither. the fact is that this is a real problem. i see it being a much greater problem. the think tanks that have looked at the issue, unfortunately, have said that in the next 10

>> the aba has spoken out about that issue on a number of occasions. it is important to preserve the bill of rights. i think that benjamin franklin -- he said those who will sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither. the fact is that this is a real problem. i see it being a much greater problem. the think tanks that have looked at the issue, unfortunately, have said that in the next 10 years, there will be not one, but two dirty nuclear bombs exploded in the united states. i hope they're wrong. that is what the statistics show. if that does happen, god forbid, i believe that our fundamental democracy will be under the greatest attack it has ever experienced. a

>> the aba has spoken out about that issue on a number of occasions. it is important to preserve the bill of rights. i think that benjamin franklin -- he said those who

the aba rendered a report that it will continue to act as a resource in fixing the problem. these are things they have online if you are interested. suddenly, you could visit our website feared by the way, if we do not get to your question, i will see you out back. happy to talk to you about anything you want to talk about. >> we should all remember that most of us are at least descendants of immigrants. one thing about justice in a different sense -- i have a question here that says that some constitutions -- and they mention the cuban one -- include health and literacy as basic rights. should we think of those as basic rights? you will certainly realize that at least as to help, that is one of the key problems going on in the present debt ceiling controversy in washington. >> my favorite book just recently, and i tell you it is $9.95 on amazon, is president kennedy's book called "nation of immigrants." it was written in the early 1960's. it will take you a couple of hours to read it again. it is a fabulous book and makes you realize that nothing has changed in the last 50

the aba was formed 133 years ago only for two purposes. one, to create a code of ethics for all lawyers. the second one is to increase the quality of legal education. that is still our fundamental mission. so, one suggestion i made at that time to the chief justice is you have got to give lawyers a monopoly. the only way -- this sounds self-serving, and it is not -- the only way to professionalize it is to have a group of people that have a monopoly so that you can control that group of people, so that they are subject to an ethical code, and so that you can control their licenses and removal of their licenses if they act unprofessionally. of course, monopolies are not something that historic way russia would consider to be an option. they have the issues they're considering over there. china, which i just returned from, they have just announced that they have 200,000 lawyers in china today. the chinese government announced they will have 1 million lawyers in the next 10 years. you might ask yourself, what country wants more lawyers? let m

there are a number of things the aba is doing in that regard. we have a resolution that is coming up in three weeks in toronto at our annual meeting. it tells people going to law school exactly what they are in for and you need to understand that the accreditation part of the american bar association is under a completely separate organization as a result of an agreement we have with the department of justice and department of education, so that we don't have any antitrust issues. that is an independent group. we at the american bar association are asking law schools to prepare for -- prepare 10 simple questions about what it costs to go to law school, how many of their students are employed upon graduation in real jobs, not artificial jobs, and we think it is going to be helpful. we also have a website that has a lot of information for anyone considering to go to law school, but probably the most important statistic that these potential students don't know is that the median income of lawyers in the united states is $62,000. they need to unders

the aba just adopted a new standard this week. i will tell you that i think the day in age, the states taking an aba standard in adopting it, whether it is this sort of thing else, they are long gone. the states are going to take with the aba puts out, but they would to an examination. they will look at what is right for the state. specially in this area of recusal and disqualification. they are going to really say, what should be the standard in our state, and what the aba put out and what's in this book will i think be the guidance that they will look to as the examine these important issues. but first let's go to judge sweeney. and, judge, i think what you could hear, it is, the title is a good win. you do have a collision of worlds here. the various age, change, court world, and a media that is just going at warp speed. what is the out of your article that you would like people to understand? >> let me say sort of while, about that because there is so many, so many things that are connected to this issue. and let me just sort

and a feeling that there's not aba lot of organization or coordination to get that done.itical parties haven't formed. the elections are looming. >> warner: in november? >> in november. and it looks like the muslim brotherhood, its new political party, stands to take about 30% of the vote by... that's a modest estimate. the saw fists could take 10%. they're the rigid puritanical his last i cans. then you have to national democratic party which was mubarak's party which was fractured but still represents business interests and new formulas. it's a puzzle that hasn't come together but i would not say that the leaders have lost hope. i think what they're looking for now is coordination and they're going to have to pull back to their corners and organize and affect change. >> warner: no one will give them to them, they have to give it to themselves. charlie sennott, thank you very much. >> thanks, margaret. >> brown: finally tonight: a real-life tale of crime on the high seas, off the horn of africa. ray suarez has our book conversation. >> suarez: three years ago, somali pir

. >> like the old aba. >> i don't get it. >> you see -- >> yeah. >> i was going to say, there i wisheen in the arena. inwanted to go to the australian rules. and soccer. the premier league. i wish we had more stories about that stateside. >> it's simply the best. we have highlights from a game last night. >> let's check in. >> this is my favorite of the league. >> gets a little frustrated. watch the collision. ready? out? >> rolls all the way. >> a little bit of an overreaction. >> he swiped at him with the cleat. flails. >> check out that -- >> look at the momentum. >> that's how hard he kicked him. >> the same direction. the goalie pulled up a bit if you watch it again and again. >> look how many times he rolled. >> you can't do that if you're the goalie. >> he thought it was the ball. >> i think in the thai league, maybe you can. >> there's an ambiguity. >> they keep moving the line. exactly. >>> sandy is going to sort through the must-read opinion pages. watching "morning joe" presented by starbucks. [ male announcer ] this is the network. a network of possibilities. excuse me? m