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and that was rejected by the aba house of delegates. so while the initial draft did broaden, it did then include these important exceptions, but that was not ultimately adopted by the house of delegates. there were two more subsequent attempts to include those exceptions which did not pass and it was not until after enron that we finally see permissive exceptions where lawyers could in certain circumstances reveal confidences to prevent things such as financial fraud, and i'll just make one side note in terms of confidentiality. i think there is no consensus and it is something that we revisit and in other context also. in illinois a few years ago there was a nationally publicized case where two public defenders had defended a man who told them that he had committed a murder -- he was on trial for killing two police officers. while they were defending him, another man was arrested in a different murder, and their client said, hey, that guy who is on murder for killing that mcdonald's security officer, i did that one, too. ha, ha, isn't
and that was rejected by the aba house of delegates. so while the initial draft did broaden, it did then include these important exceptions, but that was not ultimately adopted by the house of delegates. there were two more subsequent attempts to include those exceptions which did not pass and it was not until after enron that we finally see permissive exceptions where lawyers could in certain circumstances reveal confidences to prevent things such as financial fraud, and i'll just make one...
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that's the reason that the aba accepts these more rigorous rules in 2003. they say okay there can be permissive disclosure. they were so terrified of the government coming in and regulating the profession. the point being it is our job as lawyers to regulate our profession and we don't at our peril. >> at the suggestion of john edwards. >> john edwards suggested that. >> professor? >> let me go back to one of the consequences of watergate, which was the requirement that law schools train lawyers in professional responsibility. do we have any way of knowing what difference or how much difference that has made in the way that lawyers behave? >> i think every major report on legal education in a sense this requirement has come in has criticized how well we're doing in that area. and certainly i think we're doing a lot of good things in that area but the most recent report from the carnegie foundation, that was one of the areas that they pointed out that, you know, sort of we have three main goals in legal education. we want to teach knowledge about the law. we
that's the reason that the aba accepts these more rigorous rules in 2003. they say okay there can be permissive disclosure. they were so terrified of the government coming in and regulating the profession. the point being it is our job as lawyers to regulate our profession and we don't at our peril. >> at the suggestion of john edwards. >> john edwards suggested that. >> professor? >> let me go back to one of the consequences of watergate, which was the requirement that...
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so, for example, give one example, the aba model rules only would permit disclosure if someone was going to be killed or substantial bodily harm. now, i would say based upon my research around the country, i would say there's no national consensus on confidentiality even today. the states are really all over the place. some states, for example, like florida, you must disclose any crime of a client. other ones permit, only permit, don't require, only crimes that will prevent someone from being killed. so there's really no consensus there. so the concern that we had in representing mr. mardian in the case was -- were the allegations that, well, he should have made disclosure of what he had learned from liddy and what he had learned from others, and if he had disclosed this to the fbi, if he had gone public with this, then the whole thing could have been cut short two or three days after the break-in because he learned of all of this the very first week. and it was his position that he was under the confidentiality obligation not to disclose outside the organization. there was no 1.13 at th
so, for example, give one example, the aba model rules only would permit disclosure if someone was going to be killed or substantial bodily harm. now, i would say based upon my research around the country, i would say there's no national consensus on confidentiality even today. the states are really all over the place. some states, for example, like florida, you must disclose any crime of a client. other ones permit, only permit, don't require, only crimes that will prevent someone from being...
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