. >> they got significant, they thought they were, they purchased them, abate sxment rebates at the time and anything but energy expert, even the abatements extending to the tesla and farradays, limited shelf level on those breaks. i would only add to it that we have seen decreases, both in the north and south in public utility rates, so solar customers and others benefit from those things, as well. at a certain point, i agree. you can't keep those things going on forever. >> i agree with the assemblyman, i think in the beginning they got a lot of rebates and different things for doing this and i do feel bad for those who thought they were going to get lower rates. >> in a way, it doesn't seem totally fair. >> i have to disagree with all role here, i think. the fact they made it retro active is like unprecedented, these folks had a contract and to go back retroactively, i think raises numerous legal questions that the state will have to deal with. the cost now in litigation are going to increase and something that isn't said, everybody is saying, oh, we've been subsidizing, subsidizing,