i spoke with the marshall project's jamiles lartey and abbie vansickle, who interviewed several who sayy were also victims of chauvin's use of excessive force. when you look back and talk to other people who have had these interactions with officer chauvin, what is the picture that we get? >> yeah, i think the picture that we get is-- from a number of folks who have had other interactions with law enforcement, the way derek chauvin treated them, the way he interacted with them, was beyond the pale. it was different. that was something that i heard in-- in every interview, really, that thereeemed to just be maybe a heartlessness, a callousness to their pain, to their-- their cries for-- for air, or help or-- or even just the-- the feeling that this is unnecessary, right? this is so over the top. >> sreenivasan: how many peopl came forward, and what was it like when you all spoke to them? >> yeah, so we were able to identify six instances where the attorney general had concluded that chauvin may have used excessive force, and we were able to find three of those people, and then we were ab